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Radical Candor: Communication at Work
Author: Kim Scott, Jason Rosoff & Amy Sandler
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Learn to love your job and kick ass at work without losing your humanity by practicing the principles of Radical Candor. Improve your feedback and communications skills, become a better leader, manager or team player, and drive your #careergoals in the direction of your dreams. Host Amy Sandler leads discussions with Radical Candor co-founders Kim Scott and Jason Rosoff about what it means to be Radically Candid, why it’s simple but not easy to Care Personally and Challenge Directly on the daily, and why it’s worth it. Tune in to get actionable tips for doing the best work of your life and building the best relationships of your career, and don't forget to read Kim Scott's New York Times and Wall Street Journal bestselling book Radical Candor: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity!
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Russ Laraway breaks down why your leadership isn’t working—and how to fix it.Stuck in a cycle of vague goals, half-hearted feedback, and meaningless career talks? Let’s call it what it is—bad leadership. In part one of this two part episode, Kim, Amy, and Russ Laraway rip into the mistakes that are killing your team’s engagement and results. Russ brings the heat with his “Big Three” leadership essentials—direction, coaching, and career—and doesn’t hold back on why so many managers fail to deliver. Why are leaders so scared to prioritize? Why do career conversations feel like an empty HR theater? And why does feedback either go ignored or turn into a dreaded confrontation? If you’re ready to ditch the excuses, face the hard truths, and lead with real purpose and impact, this episode is your wake-up call. It’s time to step up, get clear, and transform the way you lead—before it’s too late.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:When They Win, You WinRuss Laraway On How To Be A Great Manager | Radical Candor Podcast 4 | 7How To Win At Managing - 3 Core PrinciplesStop Overcomplicating It: The Simple Guidebook To Upping Your Management Game“When They Win, You Win”: Russ Laraway Unpacks His New Guide For The Modern ManagerEagles' Sirianni Is A Players' Coach, No Matter What You Think Of Him | ESPNConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Amy introduce Russ Laraway and the "Big Three" of leadership.(00:03:00) What Are the Big Three?Russ explains the framework of direction, coaching, and career.(00:07:24) The Flintstones HouseKim and Russ share stories about the unique office space of Candor Inc.(00:10:31) Defining Direction in LeadershipThe importance of clarity in expectations and ruthless prioritization.(00:15:11) Long-Term Leadership ToolsHow managers can collaboratively define purpose and vision.(00:17:24) Crafting Team Goals and PrioritiesSetting measurable goals and the role of weekly prioritization.(00:26:12) Purpose and Vision StatementsExamples of vision statements and their impact on team alignment.(00:31:43) Coaching for EngagementCoaching elements that drive employee engagement.(00:33:29) The Book and Specific PraiseUsing praise to motivate teams and reinforce standards.(00:38:59) Soliciting Feedback from TeamsThe importance of creating a culture where feedback flows both ways.(00:43:53) Leadership and Power DynamicsStrategies to balance authority and empower team collaboration.(00:45:25) Radical Candor TipsPractical tips for applying direction, coaching, and career insights.(00:47:29) Conclusion
What happens when you gut the glue holding your team together.Is middle management really dead weight, or are we cutting off the wrong limb? In this episode, Amy and Jason take on the hype around “The Great Flattening” and call out the risks of gutting the layer that keeps organizations running smoothly. Sure, middle managers have their flaws—what role doesn’t? But eliminating them entirely isn’t the brilliant shortcut some leaders think it is. They dig into how this trend often creates chaos, undermines team engagement, and leaves critical gaps in communication and strategy. Spoiler: quick fixes and vague promises of efficiency don’t replace the value of solid leadership and strong relationships. With sharp insights and actionable advice, this conversation is a wake-up call for anyone buying into the flattening trend without a second thought. Skeptical? Maybe. But sometimes you need a little tough love to see what’s really at stake.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:What Do Managers Of Managers Do? | Radical Candor Podcast S4, Ep.16Who Wants To Be A Manager? | Radical Candor Podcast S6, Ep.14Should I Be A Manager? | Radical Candor Podcast S5, Ep.25Middle Manager Hiring Has Plunged, And Those Jobs May Never Come Back | Business InsiderDon’t Eliminate Your Middle Managers | HBRAmazon's Great Un-bossing: Why Eliminating Middle Managers Could Hurt Employee Engagement 😮It’s Time To Rethink The Role Of The Middle Manager | MckinseyThe Resurrection Of The Middle Manager | AchurchHeroes Or Villains? Recasting Middle Management Roles, Processes, And Behaviours | TarakciThe Hidden Risks Of Eliminating Middle Managers: A Critical Insight Mass Layoffs Often Hit Middle Managers. The Cuts Are Largely Short-Sighted | BBCWho Wants To Be A Manager? | Radical Candor Podcast S6, Ep.14The Measurement Problem | Radical Candor Podcast S3, Ep.7How To Get Shit Done | Radical Candor Podcast S4, Ep.2Connect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionJason and Amy introduce the topic of eliminating middle management.(00:02:17) The Great Flattening ExplainedThe trend of eliminating middle management roles in organizations.(00:05:37) Blaming Middle ManagersWhy middle managers are often seen as costly and ineffective.(00:10:00) The Role of Middle ManagersThe role middle managers play in strategy, coaching, and alignment. (00:15:21) Risks of Flattening OrganizationsThe unintended consequences of cutting middle management.(00:20:10) Case for Middle ManagementTips for demonstrating the value of middle managers to leadership.(00:25:29) Redefining Middle ManagementHow organizations can reshape the role to meet modern demands.(00:33:11) Radical Candor TipsPractical tips for navigating The Great Flattening.(00:35:07) Conclusion
Tech’s “meritocracy” is broken—Ellen Pao unpacks how to fix it.Alright, let’s get real—tech’s so-called “meritocracy” is doing more harm than good, and it’s time to face it head-on. This week we’re bringing you an episode of the Radical Respect podcast. Kim and Wesley sit down with Ellen Pao, founder of Project Include, to dig into how the industry’s obsession with merit often masks deep-seated bias, exclusion, and outright harassment. Ellen doesn’t hold back as she breaks down why quick fixes (we see you, generic unconscious bias training) just don’t cut it, how unchecked bias erodes trust and psychological safety across teams, and the way Project Include is leading the charge with real strategies for change. From CEOs stepping up to own their role in DEI to addressing the messy realities of AI in the workplace, this conversation is all about building environments where everyone has a shot. Ellen’s story is packed with takeaways for anyone who’s struggled to balance compassion with calling out the tough stuff, and is ready to challenge the status quo and build workplaces where it’s better to have a hole than an asshole.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Project IncludeData & Society — Ellen Pao@ekp.bsky.social on BlueskyReset: My Fight for Inclusion and Lasting ChangeConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Wesley introduce Ellen Pao, founder of Project Include.(00:01:37) The Genesis of Project IncludeHow Project Include started and its impact on improving workplace inclusivity.(00:05:25) Challenges of Virtual WorkspacesThe increase in bias and harassment in virtual work environments. (00:06:38) Meritocracy and the Tech IndustryThe role of meritocracy in shaping tech’s culture and DEI challenges.(00:09:24) Overcoming Resistance to DEIData-backed methods for fostering DEI support among skeptics.(00:13:46) DEI as a Business ImperativeThe importance of CEO involvement in creating and sustaining DEI initiatives.(00:19:50) Balancing Morality and Market PressureHow leaders can make ethical decisions that align with DEI principles.(00:25:31) Governing AI in the WorkplaceKey considerations for ethical and inclusive AI adoption in workplaces.(00:28:33) Social Media’s Role in Amplifying HarmThe need for accountability in curbing online hate and misinformation.(00:37:26) Impactful Investments in DEI-Focused VenturesStories of innovative ventures improving equity in healthcare and workplaces.(00:41:27) Conclusion
Ditch the drama and rebuild connection where it counts. Feeling overwhelmed by workplace polarization, the loneliness epidemic, and the constant whirl of change? You’re not alone—and neither are your teams. In this episode of Radical Candor, Kim and Amy bring in Heather McGowan, future-of-work strategist, to dig into why we’re so divided and distracted at work—and what leaders can actually do about it. Heather gets real about the deeper roots of these challenges, from shifting demographics to technology’s relentless pace, and shares her signature brand of practical, no-nonsense advice for fostering respect, empathy, and collaboration. It’s not about ignoring differences or plastering on a quick fix—it’s about creating the kind of human connections that help teams thrive. Learn how to lead with intention, listen to what’s not being said, and ditch the divide in favor of working better together.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Heather E. McGowan - ImpactEleven | LinkedInHeather McGowanNavigating the once a century shifts: cultural, social, demographic, technical, and economicLoneliness Epidemic is Leaving Us Distracted and DividedManaging Post-Election 2024 Tension At Work 6 | 43I Never Thought of It That Way: How to Have Fearlessly Curious Conversations in Dangerously Divided TimesBowling Alone: Revised and Updated: The Collapse and Revival of American CommunityThe Adaptation Advantage: Let Go, Learn Fast, and Thrive in the Future of WorkThe Empathy Advantage: Leading the Empowered WorkforceLoonshots: How to Nurture the Crazy Ideas That Win Wars, Cure Diseases, and Transform IndustriesBraver AngelsThe No Asshole Rule: Building a Civilized Workplace and Surviving One That Isn'tThe Least of UsConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Amy introduce the episode’s focus on workplace polarization with guest Heather McGowan.(00:02:12) Why We’re DividedThe societal and workplace factors fueling polarization.(00:06:42) Balancing Rights and Income InequalityThe interplay between workplace equity and broader societal trends.(00:09:02) Short-Term Thinking in LeadershipHow short-term decisions undermine long-term organizational health.(00:12:03) Intentional Conversations Across DividesPractical tips for engaging with diverse perspectives meaningfully.(00:16:21) Finding Common Ground at WorkBuilding relationships through shared experiences and lighthearted topics.(00:22:12) Drawing Ethical BoundariesKnowing when to disengage while maintaining openness elsewhere.(00:26:32) The Future of Work and LearningWhy adaptability and continuous learning matter more than ever.(00:33:46) Loneliness in the WorkplaceCombating workplace isolation with intentional connection and empathy.(00:41:27) Embracing Discomfort and CuriosityWhy great leaders lean into questions, not answers.(00:45:53) Radical Candor TipsStart conversations, focus on humanity, and take small steps to connect.(00:49:10) Conclusion
Everyday actions, when turned into rituals, can manage emotions and create a sense of meaning.Amy Sandler is joined by Harvard Business School Professor Michael Norton to discuss his latest book, The Ritual Effect. Norton explores the significance of rituals in reducing stress and enhancing productivity, both at work and in personal life. He shares compelling research and personal anecdotes that illustrate how everyday actions, when turned into rituals, can manage emotions and create a sense of control and purpose. The conversation covers the practical application of rituals in business settings, their emotional significance, and how they can foster team cohesion and workplace wellness. Whether you're a skeptic or a believer in the power of rituals, this episode offers valuable insights into how structured routines can lead to greater emotional health and professional effectiveness. Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Michael NortonMichael Norton’s BooksHarvard Business School ProfileMichael's Paper on HumblebraggingMichael's Paper on MatchmakingRituals Quiz | What Are Your Rituals? | Michael NortonConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionAmy Sandler introduces guest Michael Norton and his book The Ritual Effect.(00:02:16) A Quick Ritual ExerciseA fun and engaging ritual exercise to explore emotional connections.(00:04:18) From Skeptic to AdvocateMichael’s journey from being a ritual skeptic to writing The Ritual Effect.(00:07:40) The Meaning of RitualsHow rituals naturally emerge to provide structure and meaning.(00:10:04) Rituals vs. HabitsThe emotional difference between habits and rituals.(00:12:13) Rituals as Emotion GeneratorsThe dual role of rituals in generating and managing emotions.(00:15:05) The Power of Collective RitualsHow shared rituals strengthen bonds and create collective experiences.(00:16:30) Rituals at WorkExamples of team rituals that foster bonding and purpose.(00:20:46) Fostering Meaning in TeamsBalancing team pride and inclusivity when designing rituals to reflect shared values.(00:23:38) Creating Work RitualsAdvice for leaders to cocreate rituals for new work teams.(00:26:24) Adapting Rituals for Remote WorkHow teams have developed virtual rituals to maintain connection online.(00:29:05) Meaningful Rituals in the WorkplaceThe significance of rituals in the workplace for individuals and leaders.(00:32:54) Evaluating the Benefits of RitualsHow rituals contribute positively to mental health and well-being.(00:36:49) Leaders Supporting Organic RitualsTips for leaders to encourage authentic rituals without imposing corporate mandates.(00:39:59) Aligning Rituals with Team ValuesUsing rituals to express and reinforce organizational values creatively and authentically.(00:41:50) Discovering Your RitualsExploring the rituals in your life through Michael’s Ritual Quiz.(00:45:21) Conclusion
Practicing Radical Candor with your family members this holiday season.Holiday communication with your family can be rife with stress. And while you love your family, let’s be frank, family togetherness during the holidays often goes sideways. So much so that it’s become a trope that’s spawned dozens of holiday movies. But you can survive it by practicing Radical Candor with your nearest and dearest this holiday season to avoid defaulting to Obnoxious Aggression, Manipulative Insincerity or Ruinous Empathy.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Applying Radical Candor To Dysfunctional Family Dynamics7 Ways Radical Candor Transforms Relationships, According To ChatGPTA Happy Marriage Of Growth And Stability | Radical Candor Radical Candor – Speaking Directly and Caring Personally – The Veterinary IdealistThe Overton Window – Mackinac CenterHow to Use Radical Candor to Communicate Clearly With Your Family During the HolidaysConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim, Jason, and Amy introduce the topic of navigating difficult family dynamics during the holidays.(00:02:53) Radical Candor and the HolidaysThe struggle with practicing Radical Candor with families during the holidays.(00:04:36) Generational and Cultural DifferencesHow cultural and generational gaps complicate family communication.(00:07:12) Family Role Expectations and Childhood PatternsReverting to childhood behaviors and role expectations during family visits.(00:9:18) Taking the Bait: Avoiding EscalationStrategies for turning down conversational "volume" and avoiding conflict bait.(00:20:20) Overreacting to AdviceHow understanding intent can improve family dynamics.(00:24:37) Why Gifts Sometimes BackfireThe alternate perspectives on gifts dependant on the giver or receiver.(00:27:42) Gifts Gone WrongPersonal anecdotes of gift-giving mishaps and lessons learned.(00:33:33) The Strain of Gift GivingHow gift giving can be especially hard in strained family dynamics.(00:35:59) Setting Boundaries with FamilyAsserting personal boundaries when saying yes takes its toll.(00:39:22) Gifting with IntentReleasing the obligation of the perfect gift for the giver and receiver.(00:43:51) Radical Candor at Family GatheringsGuidance on when to lean into Radical Candor and when to let things slide.(00:50:12) Appreciating Moments TogetherThe finite nature of time with loved ones and making the most of family gatherings.(00:54:51) Radical Candor TipsTips on setting boundaries, practicing care, and avoiding unnecessary conflict.(01:00:01) Conclusion
How the CORE method can help you thrive in the messy middle.Caught in the middle of a boss who’s all care but no action and a team lead who’s full steam ahead with no brakes? That’s a workplace tightrope no one wants to walk. Your ability to Care Personally and Challenge Directly can seriously be affected when communication falls apart on both ends of the spectrum, and it’s not just frustrating—it’s debilitating. How do you stay productive and keep your sanity when you’re managing up and down with people who either dodge conflict entirely or bulldoze through it? In this episode, Jason and Amy tackle the messy middle, breaking down how to use the CORE method (Context, Observation, Result, Expected Next Steps) to navigate these tricky situations. It’s not about pointing fingers or playing favorites—it’s about finding a way to ditch the drama and focus on what really matters: working better together.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Give Candid Feedback With the CORE Method | Radical CandorFeedback from Your Boss | Radical CandorAsking for Feedback | Radical CandorThe Radical Candor Order of Operations | Radical CandorMake Work Less Like Jr. High: Radical Candor Podcast 5 | 10Managing Challenging Conversations At Work | Radical CandorNavigating Workplace Tensions: Stuck Between Ruinous Empathy and Obnoxious AggressionConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionAmy and Jason introduce a listener dilemma about a ruinously empathetic boss and an obnoxiously aggressive team lead.(00:02:15) Defining Ruinous Empathy and Obnoxious AggressionWhat it means to care without challenging and to challenge without caring.(00:04:44) It’s the Boss’s Job: Accountability MattersWhy the manager has ultimate responsibility and how to provide feedback.(00:07:53) Raising the Issue with Your BossHow to approach a ruinously empathetic boss with care and directness.(00:11:46) Involving Your Boss EffectivelyHow to engage your boss in resolving team tensions without blame or shame.(00:17:55) Using the CORE MethodA step-by-step approach to delivering clear and constructive feedback.(00:20:55) Role-Play: Navigating a Clean Escalation ConversationHow to handle a tough conversation between a team member and an aggressive lead.(00:31:11) Building Common GroundTips for fostering mutual understanding and creating actionable steps.(00:34:02) Radical Candor TipsKey takeaways and practical tips for addressing conflict.(00:36:35) Conclusion
Showing respect when you just don’t connect.Ever feel like caring about a coworker is just...not in the cards? Same. Here’s the thing though – you don’t have to be besties to show respect and keep things productive. In this episode, Kim, Amy, and Jason tackle the tough question of how to Care Personally when someone’s driving you up the wall. With relatable stories (yes, even a deodorant conversation makes an appearance) and practical tips, they break down how to stay curious, address frustrations head-on, and avoid letting those "ugh" feelings spiral into toxicity. The key takeaway? Stop writing mental soap operas about your colleagues and start having real conversations. Awkward? Sure. Worth it? Absolutely.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:What It Means to Care Personally About Your TeamWhat's the Ideal Manager-Employee Relationship?What does it mean to Care Personally?How to Develop Empathy for Someone Who Annoys YouWhat Is Radical Respect? Learn Why It's Crucial for a Healthy Workplace CultureBeware The Fundamental Attribution Error: Radical Candor Podcast 5 | 8How to Give Difficult Feedback While Still Caring PersonallyAdam Grant | InstagramHow to Care Personally About Someone You Don’t LikeHow to Care Personally When You Don’t Like SomeoneConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim, Jason and Amy introduce a listener’s question about caring personally for someone you don’t like.(00:02:09) Radical RespectHow respect forms the core of caring personally, even when someone annoys you.(00:03:48) Reframing PerspectivesReframing narratives to foster empathy in difficult workplace interactions.(00:05:05) Addressing Irritating BehaviorsTwo stories from differing perspectives on personal irritations at work.(00:08:17) Curiosity as a BridgeThe power of curiosity in understanding and seeing humanity in others.(00:11:02) Unspoken DisagreementsHow assumptions and unspoken disagreements corrode relationships.(00:14:16) Repairing Relationships at WorkThe journey from conflict to rebuilding a strained relationship with a peer.(00:22:17) Different Work StylesRespecting differing approaches to work and optimizing collaboration.(00:24:14) The Role Self-AwarenessSelf-awareness and transitioning from internal frustration to constructive dialogue.(00:33:08) Indifference vs. Engagement at WorkThe inefficiencies of emotional detachment from colleagues.(00:34:29) Balancing Connection and BoundariesMaintaining professional relationships while respecting personal boundaries.(00:37:38) Radical Candor TipsKey tips from the episode, including respect, curiosity, and addressing biases.(00:40:24) Conclusion
The messy reality of salary secrecy.Pay transparency—yikes, it’s one of those topics that makes everyone squirm, but avoiding it does more harm than good. Let’s be real: when salaries are shrouded in secrecy, it doesn’t just make things awkward—it allows inequity and mistrust to thrive. And here’s the kicker: people are already talking about pay, just in whispers instead of open, productive conversations. In this episode, Kim and Jason take a no-nonsense approach to tackling the discomfort. From real stories of pay gaps to the tangled emotions and messy realities behind compensation conversations, they discuss how a lack of transparency impacts trust and fairness, and share practical tips for making compensation more equitable. Whether you’re trying to influence change at your organization or navigate these conversations as an employee, this is your guide to addressing one of the workplace’s biggest taboos—without losing your humanity.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:7 Steps for Radical Pay Transparency to Narrow DisparitiesNew Laws Force Honesty About Pay. Companies Are Catching Up.Designing Fair Compensation SystemsPay Transparency: What It Is and How to Do It Right | Built InYour Right to Discuss Wages | National Labor Relations BoardPayscaleConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Jason introduce the episode and the listener's question about pay transparency.(00:03:09) Legality of Pay DiscussionsThe legal landscape of discussing salaries in the workplace.(00:06:32) Real Stories of Pay InequityA personal experience of discovering and addressing pay gaps. (00:10:18) Building a Compensation PhilosophyThe importance of having a framework for determining salaries.(00:12:09) Why Pay Disparities HappenExamples of pay disparities in the workplace and the reasons behind them.(00:16:09) Theory of CompensationThe process of setting a fair salary band based on market data.(00:21:38) Efficiency of Salary FormulasHow setting a compensation framework saves time and prevents inequality.(00:28:06) Transparency in RecruitingThe benefits of sharing salary ranges in job postings and clarifying compensation processes.(00:33:13) Fixing Pay Disparities with CandorStrategies to proactively identify and address inequities in compensation.(00:42:12) Radical Candor TipsPractical tips for creating transparent compensation systems.(00:43:33) Conclusion
Missed promotions, broken promises, and the fallout that follows.Promotions gone wrong? Yeah, it’s a thing. On this episode, Kim and former Twitter CEO Dick Costolo tackle a listener’s tale of missed opportunities, broken promises, and a management team that just can’t get it together. From the cringe-worthy red flags to the frustrating aftermath, they explore how leadership missteps can wreak havoc on trust and motivation. Tune in for sharp insights, practical advice, and a whole lot of “what NOT to do” when navigating messy workplace dynamics. If you’ve ever felt stuck in a system that doesn’t seem to work, this episode will help you find your way forward.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Managerial Musings With Kim Scott & Dick Costolo 5 | 26Dick Costolo | LinkedInKim Scott & Dick Costolo Unpack the Messy Truth About Management DilemmasWhat Happens When Promotions Go Sideways?Connect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim Scott introduces Dick Costolo, former Twitter CEO and stand-up comedian.(00:01:45) The Promotion PredicamentA listener's dilemma about missing out on a promotion.(00:05:00) Missteps by the First ManagerThe mistakes of the listener's first manager, focusing on false promises.(00:08:20) The Boss’s Boss BlundersThe dismissive and damaging responses from the listener's boss’s boss.(00:09:36) Advice for EmployeesStrategies for employees to clarify expectations with management.(00:12:29) Addressing Subjectivity in PromotionsThe challenge of fairness and transparency in dynamic organizations.(00:14:54) Navigating Difficult ConversationsThe value of candid, constructive dialogue over avoidance in leadership.(00:18:20) A Call for Transparent ProcessesHow structured processes can prevent workplace dissatisfaction.(00:20:30) Conclusion
The fine line between transparency and TMI.Let’s get into it: oversharing at work — we’ve all done it, and we’ve all cringed after. But here’s the tea: when we spill sensitive info without thinking, we’re not just breaking trust, we’re tanking our ability to Care Personally and Challenge Directly. In this episode, Kim, Jason, and Amy dig into a listener's story about sharing too much too soon and just how quickly oversharing can derail trust and create chaos. They unpack why these missteps happen, how different company cultures play into it, and what it really takes to find that sweet spot between transparency and discretion. If you’ve ever found yourself in the awkward aftermath of an overshare, this one’s for you. Let’s learn how to slow down, think it through, and keep our Radical Candor intact!Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Use the GSD Wheel So No One Feels Sad, Bad or Left Out 4 | 2Connect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionAmy, Kim and Jason introduce the episode around a listener’s question on oversharing at work.(00:01:26) Listener's Question on OversharingA listener seeks advice on managing sensitive information more effectively.(00:03:58) Communication and Cultural AssumptionsHow organizational secrecy and biases affect information sharing.(00:06:30) Pause and Reflect The importance of pausing before sharing any potentially sensitive information.(00:08:42) Organizational Communication StructureInsights into structured vs. open communication styles and their impact.(00:12:09) Developing Effective Information ChannelsStrategies for ensuring efficient communication and reducing redundancy.(00:17:12) Soliciting Feedback and Building TrustSoliciting feedback from team leads after communication missteps.(00:22:16) Framework for Information SensitivityThe “Category” framework to clarify communication roles and boundaries.(00:24:56) Initiative and Respecting BoundariesThe balance of taking initiative versus respecting organizational boundaries.(00:28:55) Communication and Problem PreferenceBeing clear on workplace communication styles to tackle preferred challenges.(00:33:43) Personalizing Communication StylesInsights on managing communication impulsivity and biases.(00:38:47) Radical Candor TipsChecklist for managing sensitive information and improving communication.(00:41:05) Conclusion
Susan Rigetti on speaking up, keeping receipts, and why silence is never the answer.We’re shaking up the workplace and diving deep into the raw reality of whistleblowing and the courage it takes to speak up with this special episode from the Radical Respect podcast. Kim, Wesley, and special guest Susan Rigetti, author of Whistleblower, break down the challenges of calling out toxic systems while being real with yourself. When harmful practices go unchecked, they don’t just derail careers—they damage the core of psychological safety that we all need to do our best work. So how do you find the strength to raise your voice when the stakes feel impossibly high? Susan shares her own powerful story of calling out the broken culture at Uber, laying out what happens when you decide you’ve had enough and choose to act. If you’ve ever struggled to raise your voice in the face of workplace dysfunction, learn why silence is never the answer and how respect and courage can transform even the most challenging environments.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:How Susan Fowler Rigetti Inspired Me to Step Up and Speak OutSusan Fowler RigettiReflecting on One Very, Very Strange Year at UberWhistleblower: My Unlikely Journey to Silicon Valley and Speaking Out Against InjusticeConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionAmy introduces the Radical Respect podcast with Kim, Wesley and guest Susan Rigetti, author of Whistleblower.(00:03:24) Whistleblower and Lessons from UberSusan discusses her book, Whistleblower, and her challenges at Uber.(00:07:13) Advice to Younger SelfThe hard lesson of recognizing when a system can’t be fixed from the inside.(00:10:33) The Cost of Staying SilentThe psychological and financial struggles many face when they stay silent.(00:14:25) Staying True to Your ValuesHow keeping a list of values helped navigate a toxic work culture.(00:16:20) Writing WhistleblowerAddressing misconceptions and setting the record straight with Whistleblower.(00:21:18) Understanding Systemic BarriersThe systemic barriers that individuals face in the workplace.(00:23:55) Reporting to HRDocumenting and reporting issues to hold organizations accountable. (00:26:20) Keeping the ReceiptsAdvice on documenting conversations and emails to protect oneself.(00:29:07) Conclusion
Examining and expanding our capacity to hold different beliefs.Brace yourself—this episode is all about navigating workplace tension with Radical Candor. Kim and Amy team up with Denise Hamilton, author of Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences Into a Stronger Future, to tackle the complicated landscape of workplace polarization and the radical power of respect. Denise, known for her "irrational optimism," sheds light on how we can bridge deep divides, even when it feels impossible and that respect isn’t something earned through understanding—it’s the baseline that makes understanding possible. They explore why caring personally means building trust, even when opinions clash, and how we can create workplaces that honor both individual voices and collective purpose. With Denise’s wisdom and Kim’s Radical Candor principles, this episode digs into the tough conversations leaders often avoid but desperately need. If you’ve ever felt the strain of differing views at work, this conversation is for you—because staying connected is the only way forward.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:RC Pod: Political Discussions at WorkDenise Hamilton / Indivisible: How to Forge Our Differences Into a Stronger FutureRadical Respect pod: Indivisible [YouTube]WatchHerWorkDenise HamiltonConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Amy introduce Denise Hamilton, author of Indivisible.(00:03:32) Discussing Politics at WorkInsights into the discomfort around political conversations in professional settings.(00:05:01) Contradictory MessagesThe conflicting messages people face around authenticity at work.(00:07:22) Building a Respectful Work CultureHow workplace culture influences political discussions.(00:10:59) Personal and Workplace BoundariesBalancing personal beliefs and professionalism at work.(00:12:59) The Role of Respect in UnderstandingRespect as the foundation for understanding others.(00:16:42) Holding Space for Emotions Post-ElectionThe importance of allowing emotional expression at work after tense events.(00:21:36) Leaders Counteracting NegativityThe role leaders play in intentionally fostering positivity.(00:24:03) Common Ground in Heated TimesFinding common ground with people who hold different views.(00:27:05) Approaching Sensitive Topics MindfullyDenise shares her “four-question rubric” for starting difficult conversations.(00:31:52) Navigating Information CurationThe pitfalls of curated news and incomplete information.(00:35:43) Misinformation and a Leader’s ResponsibilityHow leaders should address misinformation in their organizations.(00:39:23) Owning vs. Renting: Social ResponsibilityAdopting a long-term, invested mindset for societal change.(00:44:06) The Vision for a Relationship-Centered FutureHope for a future rooted in personal connections and humanity.(00:46:05) Conclusion
Handling workplace bullying when family dynamics are involved.We need to talk about nepotism and workplace bullying, because WHEW, does it ever mess with our ability to Care Personally and Challenge Directly! Here's the real deal — when family ties eclipse talent, we're not just hurting individual careers. We're poisoning the well of psychological safety that teams need to thrive. How can you tell someone to "bring their whole self to work" when the rules aren't the same for everyone? KIm, Amy, and Jason explain why avoiding these conversations doesn't help anyone. Whether you're dealing with the CEO's daughter who's actually crushing it, or the founder's cousin who's... not so much, you've got to stay rooted in those two key principles: Care Personally AND Challenge Directly.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Injustice At Work: 4 Effective Ways To Respond | Radical CandorRight To BeUpstanders Vs. Bystanders: A Story Every Manager Needs To ReadWhen The A**Holes Begin To Win, The Culture Begins To LoseIt’s Better To Have A Hole Than An A**Hole ShirtsWhen Your Worst Co-Worker Is The Boss' KidCeo's Son Harassing Me At Work | RedditHow To Survive A Job You Hate (But Can't Leave – Yet) | CareershiftersHrm’s Response To Workplace Bullying: Complacent, Complicit And Compounding | Journal Of Business EthicsWorkplace Harassment | Radical Candor Podcast 6 | 30Don't Let A Bad Boss Derail You | Radical Candor Podcast 6 | 18Reflecting On One Very, Very Strange Year At Uber — Susan FowlerWhat Are Skip-Level Meetings & How To Conduct Them | Radical CandorUnpacking False Apologies & Embracing The 'aaaaac' MethodThe Asshole Survival Guide: How To Deal With People Who Treat You Like Dirt | Bob SuttonWhat Is An Employee Assistance Program (EAP)?Connect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim, Jason, and Amy introduce the episode’s topic on a listener’s question about workplace nepotism.(00:02:52) Listener Question: Nepotistic BullyA listener’s challenging situation involving a CEO's son who is bullying employees.(00:03:48) Strategies for Workplace BullyingDocumenting incidents and preparing for a conversation with higher-ups.(00:11:43) Building Solidarity and Seeking SupportStrategies for finding allies to support you and sharing experiences with others.(00:15:44) Challenges of Confronting NepotismThe difficulty of escalating issues involving family ties at work.(00:19:25) Exit Strategies and Self-ProtectionKnowing your exit options and protecting your well-being.(00:31:17) Direct Conversations and EscalationPreparing for a direct conversation with the bully and their higher-ups.(00:38:52) The Role and Limitations of HRWhen HR should be involved in addressing workplace bullying.(00:49:06) Seeking External Legal SupportGuidance on consulting a lawyer for severe or unresolved bullying cases.(00:52:43) Radical Candor TipsTips for handling bullying, documenting, building solidarity, and escalating issues.(00:54:44) Conclusion
With feedback, how do you measure what matters?Kim, Jason, and Amy dive into the art of measuring feedback, emphasizing that it's not just about what you say, but how it's heard. It's crucial to pay attention to how your feedback lands and be ready to adjust your approach, especially when you notice defensiveness or indifference. Tune in to explore practical strategies for handling emotional reactions while keeping your communication clear and compassionate. Learn how to stay present in tough conversations and create a space where open dialogue leads to growth and stronger relationships, both at work and in life. We'll also cover how to effectively solicit feedback and navigate defensiveness, ensuring that your interactions are not only productive but also supportive and understanding.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:How to Gauge Feedback You’re Giving & Getting 3 | 4How To Gauge Your Feedback | Radical CandorWhen Someone You Love Is Upset, Ask This One Question | NY TimesThe Motivational Value Of Listening During Intimate And Difficult ConversationsWhat is Radical Candor? Radical Candor 6-Minute Crash Course 3 | Mini 1Closing the Loop: Radical Candor FAQ Finale 6 | 29How To Give Fast, Meaningful Feedback | Radical CandorThe Guest House by Mewlana Jalaluddin Rumi | All PoetryHow to Deal with Strong Emotions | Thich Nhat Hanh (short teaching video)How to Measure Feedback: It's Not What You Say, But How They Hear ItConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim, Jason, and Amy introduce the episode’s focus on feedback gauging and emotional awareness.(00:01:25) Gauging Feedback The importance of understanding how feedback is received.(00:05:30) Reactions to FeedbackThe different reactions people may have to feedback and how to adapt.(00:09:14) Staying Present in Emotional ConversationsStrategies for staying present when emotions rise during difficult conversations.(00:15:59) Brushing Off FeedbackSituations where people brush off feedback and how to address it.(00:26:21) Tailoring FeedbackHow people with different sensitivities and personalities respond to feedback.(00:34:47) Pushing Further on Challenge Directly Gauging whether you should increase directness in feedback or focus on empathy.(00:43:09) Role-Play: Defensive FeedbackA scenario to illustrate how to handle a defensive response in real time.(00:50:59) Role-Play: Emotional FeedbackA scenario to illustrate how to handle an emotional response in real time.(01:00:08) Radical Candor TipsFrom checking in on feedback delivery to fostering a supportive environment.(01:03:36) Conclusion
Effectively manage feedback you disagree with.In this episode of the Radical Candor podcast, we tackle a challenge that's at the heart of Radical Candor: what to do when you receive feedback you don't agree with. It's a question we get all the time, and it's crucial because how we handle these moments can make or break our relationships at work. The team gets into the get into the nitty-gritty of how to respond to tough feedback and suggests specific phrases you can use to show you're listening, even if you're not fully on board.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:How to Respond to Negative Feedback at Work That You Disagree With | Radical CandorListen, Challenge, Commit | Radical Candor Podcast 6 | 17Radical Candor Community6 Tips For How To Receive Feedback Well | Radical CandorFollow These 4 Steps to Create Psychological Safety in Your Teams | Fast CompanyTell Me Why I'm Wrong: Resolving Disagreements with Your Direct Reports | LinkedInThe Power Of Rituals At Work | Radical Candor Podcast 6 | 16How To Get Stuff Done | Radical Candor Podcast 4 | 2How To Give Candid Feedback Using The CORE Method | Radical CandorHow To Encourage Feedback Between Others In The Workplace | Radical CandorAlan Mullaly of Ford at Stanford Graduate School of Business | YouTubeConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionJason and Amy introduce the live streaming episode about disagreeing with feedback.(00:02:23) Listener Question: Disagreeing with FeedbackA listener's question about how to handle feedback they disagree with.(00:03:42) The Pocket Veto: The Dangers of Silent DisagreementThe concept of a "pocket veto" and why it's harmful to silently disagree with feedback.(00:05:27) Strategies to Handle DisagreementTips on how to approach feedback in the moment.(00:11:02) How to Create Space for DisagreementInviting challenges during feedback conversations to foster honest communication.(00:16:19) The “Listen, Challenge, Commit” FrameworkThe “Listen, Challenge, Commit” approach, which helps to handle feedback.(00:19:10) Personal Experiences with FeedbackA personal story about learning to approach feedback with curiosity and humility.(00:27:51) Following Up After Formal FeedbackHow to approach follow-up conversations after receiving formal feedback.(00:34:58) Psychological Safety and Radical CandorA listener question on the link between psychological safety and Radical Candor.(00:41:11) Creating a Culture of Learning with Radical CandorExamples of workplace rituals that reinforce Radical Candor and continuous learning.(00:45:29) Metaphors for Radical CandorUsing metaphors to understand Radical Candor in communication.(00:49:17) The Radical Candor Quadrants Whether people tend to fall more frequently into one of the Radical Candor quadrants.(00:54:09) Radical Candor TipTips on practicing Radical Candor, emphasizing listening, identifying, and committing to feedback.(00:57:17) Conclusion
Start small to make change more achievable and impactful.In this episode of the Radical Candor Podcast, Jason and Amy discuss how to introduce radical candor to teams effectively. They emphasize the importance of starting small, creating pockets of excellence, and the role of accountability and praise in fostering a feedback culture. The conversation also covers effective communication strategies for implementing change, real-world examples of cultural shifts, and practical tips for individuals and teams looking to embrace radical candor. The episode concludes with an invitation to join the Radical Candor community for ongoing support and resources.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Building a Radically Candid Culture | LinkedIn6 Steps for Rolling Out Radical Candor | Radical Candor3 Ways to Introduce Radical Candor's Feedback Framework to Your Organization | Radical CandorRadical Candor Book Discussion Guide | Radical CandorRadical Candor CommunityHow To Give Candid Feedback With the Radical Candor CORE Method | Radical CandorConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionJason and Amy introduce the topic of bringing Radical Candor into the workplace.(00:00:27) Starting with Small ChangesWhy starting with small steps is key to building a culture of Radical Candor.(00:02:57) Pockets of ExcellenceThe concept of pockets of excellence and why they are crucial for cultural change.(00:05:30) Highlighting Small SuccessesThe importance of highlighting successes rather than focusing on failures to drive cultural shifts.(00:08:30) Avoiding Overwhelming ChangeEffective communication about small wins to shift organizational perceptions and build optimism.(00:10:49) Small Change Success StoryA story on how small experiments can create big organizational change.(00:15:38) Making Feedback Visible and AccessibleSimple tools to share user feedback that can have a powerful impact on organizational culture.(00:19:37) Effective Communication for Cultural ChangeCommunicating the rationale behind introducing Radical Candor to a broader team.(00:24:07) Handling Executive SkepticismAddressing skepticism from executives and making the case for Radical Candor.(00:27:03) Building Momentum After Initial SuccessExpanding Radical Candor across more teams after initial success.(00:30:16) Individuals Practicing Radical CandorAdvice for individuals looking to start small and integrate Radical Candor into their work.(00:33:09) Radical Candor TipsTips for developing a more radically candid culture individually and in organizations.(00:34:56) Conclusion
How leaders can balance vulnerability with competence.Kim and Jacob Morgan, author of Leading with Vulnerability, discuss the power of vulnerability in leadership and its role in building trust and driving performance. They explore the common misconceptions about vulnerability, the balance between competence and connection, and how to navigate the fine line between strength and openness. Jacob shares stories of successful and failed leadership, emphasizing the importance of choosing the right moments to be vulnerable. The conversation also touches on how to foster psychological safety, deal with workplace bullies, and follow with vulnerability in challenging environments.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Denial: Why Business Leaders Fail to Look Facts in the Face—and What to Do About It | Richard TedlowLeading with Vulnerability: Unlock Your Greatest Superpower to Transform Yourself, Your Team, and Your Organization | Jacob MorganPerformance Improvement Plans | Radical Candor Podcast 5 | 20What Does Managing Out Mean? | Radical Candor Podcast 6 | 6 Beware The Fundamental Attribution Error | Radical Candor Podcast 5 | 8How To Give Candid Feedback Using The CORE Method | Radical Candor5 Proven Ways Checks And Balances In Management Bolster Teams | Radical CandorFollow these 4 steps to create psychological safety in your teams | Fast CompanyShrill | Lindy WestThe Vulnerable Leader Equation: A critical leadership development model for successful change management | HRDJacob MorganFortune lists tough bosses | UPI ArchivesCan Workplaces Have Too Much Psychological Safety? | HBRConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionAmy and Kim introduce guest Jacob Morgan, author of Leading with Vulnerability. (00:00:38) Defining Vulnerability in LeadershipThe concept of vulnerability in leadership and how it can be misinterpreted.(00:03:45) Denial in LeadershipHow denial impacts leadership and the challenges leaders face when addressing mistakes.(00:06:48) Exploiting VulnerabilityAn example of a leader who used an exployee’s vulnerability against them.(00:10:41) Self-Compassion in LeadershipThe need for self-compassion, particularly when vulnerability is exploited.(00:12:46) Vulnerability in Uncertain SituationsA step-by-step approach to assessing when and how to display vulnerability at work.(00:18:36) Knowing Who to TrustHow leaders and employees can discern when it’s appropriate to be vulnerable.(00:21:11) Effective Leadership in Times of CrisisA success story about Fleetwood Grobler’s leadership during a financial crisis at Sasol.(00:25:28) Dealing with Workplace BulliesThe complexities of vulnerability when facing workplace bullying.(00:33:03) Following with VulnerabilityTips on how to assertively respond to challenging leaders while maintaining professionalism.(00:37:18) Fundamental Attribution ErrorThe importance of not jumping to conclusions about people's intentions.(00:43:22) Creating Psychological SafetyThe balance between accountability and psychological safety.(00:45:37) Conclusion
Make your meetings count.Explore the surprising science of meetings and how to make them suck less with Dr. Steven G. Rogelberg, a renowned organizational psychologist and author of The Surprising Science of Meetings, Glad We Met: The Art & Science of 1:1 Meetings, and more. Dr. Rogelberg discusses with Kim and Amy why meetings often feel unproductive and costly, covering common pitfalls and offering actionable strategies to enhance their effectiveness. The conversation spotlights the power of one-on-one meetings, emphasizing their unique role in fostering meaningful connections between managers and employees. Dr. Rogelberg shares insights on how to structure these meetings to maximize engagement, support, and productivity, making them a crucial tool for leadership and team success.Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Steven Rogelberg7 Ways To Improve One-on-One Meetings | Radical CandorEffective 1:1s - Tips For One-on-One Meetings With Your Team | Radical Candor3 Tips For How To Run Effective Staff Meetings | Radical CandorGlad we Met: The Art and Science of 1:1 Meetings — Steven Rogelberg, Ph.D.The Surprising Science of Meetings — Steven Rogelberg, Ph.D.Connect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim and Amy introduce guest Dr. Steven Rogelberg, organizational psychologist and an expert on meetings.(00:04:18) The Impact of MeetingsThe surprising volume of meetings globally and the underestimated economic impact.(00:07:03) Misconceptions and Optimizing Meeting StrategiesMisconceptions about meetings and advice on improving their effectiveness.(00:10:36) Are Your Meeting Questions Valuable?How to ensure that the meeting agenda questions are valuable.(00:11:39) Using Radical Candor in MeetingsThe idea of a Radical Candor framework with signals during meetings.(00:13:32) Should Feedback Be Part of the Meeting?Whether feedback should be solicited at the end of meetings.(00:16:05) Speaking Up in MeetingsAdvice on encouraging team members to speak up in meetings.(00:20:03) The Importance of 1:1 MeetingsResearch that highlights the desire for more 1:1 meetings.(00:23:21) Relationship Building in 1:1sThe importance of building genuine relationships through consistent 1:1 meetings.(00:28:42) How to Start 1:1 MeetingsTips on starting 1:1 meetings, their appropriate cadence and setting the right tone.(00:31:24) Locations and Structure for 1:1 MeetingsThe best locations for 1:1 meetings and structuring the agenda for them.(00:41:16) Preparing for Meetings with Your ManagerHow employees should prepare for meetings with their managers.(00:46:19) Conclusion
How misguided praise can do more harm than good.Praise can be powerful, but when it’s vague, generic, or something you can say to a dog like "good job," it can backfire and do more harm than good. Kim, Jason, and Amy explore the nuances of Ruinous Empathy and praise, sharing real-life examples, like the infamous FEMA response during Hurricane Katrina, to illustrate the pitfalls of Ruinously Empathetic feedback. They discuss the importance of making praise specific and sincere so people know what was good and why, allowing them to repeat their success. Get all of the show notes at RadicalCandor.com/podcast.Episode Links:Praise & Ruinous Empathy | Radical CandorTips to Avoid Ruinously Empathetic Praise | Radical CandorAppreciation (That's What The Money's For!) | Radical Candor 5 | 16Radical Candor Podcast: A Tale Of Ruinous EmpathyBeyond 'Sorry': How to Apologize and Mean It 6 | 22DARVO | WikipediaBeing 'Nice' Instead of Kind is One of the Biggest Mistakes Well-Intentioned Bosses MakeConnect:WebsiteInstagramTikTokLinkedInFacebookXYouTubeChapters:(00:00:00) IntroductionKim, Jason, and Amy introduce the episode's focus on how praise can become ruinously empathetic.(00:00:53) What Is Ruinous Empathy in Praise?How praise can be ineffective when it's vague, insincere, or lacks specific feedback.(00:02:19) Defining Praise vs. CriticismWhat constitutes praise, how it differs from criticism and the dangers of insincere praise(00:06:06) Effective Public Support and PraiseGuidance for leaders on how to support team members publicly after a mistake.(00:11:51) Consequences of Praising FailureWhy offering praise after failure can be misleading and harmful.(00:17:04) The Role of Specificity in PraiseThe importance of specificity in making praise feel sincere and useful.(00:22:11) Ruinous Empathy and Manipulative InsincerityThe nuances between ruinously empathetic praise and manipulatively insincere praise.(00:33:07) Insincere PraiseAvoiding the common pitfalls of insincere praise in leadership and team management.(00:36:53) Offering Effective PraisePractical tips on how to offer specific and sincere praise that drives improvement.(00:40:56) Radical Candor TipsTips for applying Radical Candor to praise, ensuring feedback is specific, sincere, and purposeful.(00:42:18) Conclusion
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Meh. Kim's voice is grating. (Not that she can do anything about it.) I am also bewildered that she shared the time she passive aggressively wrote a novel on the job for A MONTH. Both hosts also talk extensively about their time at Google. Disappointed.