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Rates & Barrels: A show about Baseball
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Eno Sarris and Derek VanRiper, along with Trevor May and Britt Ghiroli, discuss advanced stats, strategy, prospects and more. From the first move of the Hot Stove season to the final pitch of the World Series, join us for year-round baseball talk.
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Eno, DVR and Trevor discuss Eno's story examining the long-term pitch velocity ceiling, how a few of their 2024 predictions are looking as the first half of the season comes to close, the Trade Deadline outlook for the Rangers and Reds, plus a game plan for pitching to Steven Kwan.
Rundown
1:04 Where Was Trevor on the Night of August 5th, 2019?
4:45 The Human Limit for Pitching Velocity
($) https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5571107
13:00 Bold Predictions: Midseason Check-In
24:58 How Well Is Information Being Communicated to Players?
34:37 The Rangers at the Fork -- What Will Texas Do at the Trade Deadline?
44:11 The Reds at the Fork -- Is a 2024 Playoff Berth Still In the Works?
54:47 The Game Plan: How To Pitch to Steven Kwan
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Eno and DVR discuss midseason buy-highs while taking a trip through the FanGraphs 2024 Player Rater. Plus, they discuss a few pickups to consider ahead of the weekend, including Jhonkensy Noel in Cleveland, Heston Kjerstad in his second stint with the O's this season, and David Festa joining the rotation for the Twins.
Rundown
3:55 Gunnar Henderson Makes the Leap to First-Round Status
6:31 Ranger Suárez: No. 1 SP in Player Rater for 2024 (So Far)
11:15 Accounting for Wins in a Player Rater
15:15 Adjusting Ratio Baselines for Run Environment
18:08 Which Hitter(s) Are You Targeting?
25:14 Brice Turang's Step Forward and Projecting Ceiling Comps
34:11 Which Pitcher(s) Are You Targeting?
41:35 A Case for Joe Ryan
43:55 Weekend Waiver Preview: Jhonkensy Noel & Heston Kjerstad
54:32 Weekend Waiver Preview: David Festa & Hayden Birdsong\
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Sam Blum of The Athletic joins Eno and DVR to discuss all things Angels, including the impact of manager Ron Washington during a challenging year, the overall direction of the club with Arte Moreno's decision to continue forward as owner, and the future of Mike Trout.
Rundown
0:43 The Impact of Ron Washington on the 2024 Angels
7:23 Missed Opportunities to Add Depth
11:52 Should the Angels Have Perry Minasian Lead the Rebuild?
17:00 Fast Promotions for Zach Neto & Nolan Schanuel
21:00 Angels Prospects Nearing an Opportunity
26:11 Arte Moreno's Decision to Take the Team Off the Market
31:09 Mike Trout's Future in Anaheim
41:10 José Soriano as a Key Piece of the Core?
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Eno and DVR discuss another busy weekend of baseball that included a sticky-stuff ejection for Mets' closer Edwin Díaz, the return of Max Scherzer to the Rangers' rotation, more injuries in the Marlins' starting unit, Giancarlo Stanton's quietly strong season before a trip to the IL, and much more.
Rundown
4:57 Edwin Díaz: Ejected for Sticky Substance Violation; 10-game Suspension on Tap
10:11 Max Scherzer: Picks Up Victory in Return from IL
15:02 Jesús Luzardo Likely Out 4-6 Weeks
22:36 Giancarlo Stanton's Quietly Good 2024
30:25 Which Early-Round Player(s) Are You Avoiding in Trades?
FanGraphs Player Rater: https://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy-tools/player-rater
45:45 Where the Money Went
58:05 Weekend Drops
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Eno, DVR and Trevor discuss a few takeaways from Thursday night's game between the Cardinals and Giants at Rickwood Field, the 2024 MLB run environment and try to determine why scoring has fallen back to 2022 levels despite rule changes implemented last season to increase offense. Plus, they look at deep split stats for starters and relievers to take a closer look at inherited and bequeathed runners, and which pitchers battle back most often from difficult counts.
Rundown
1:34 Takeaways From Thursday's Game at Rickwood Field
8:16 The 2024 MLB Run Environment
13:29 Is Talent Being Maximized More Effectively Now Than Ever Before?
21:24 Eno Is Ready to Adjust the Mound
26:58 But, What is a Reasonable Adjustment
30:52 Looking at 3-0 Counts & Pitcher Mindset
44:27 Why You Should Care About Inherited & Bequeathed Runners
55:14 Relievers Adapting to Current Stolen-Base Environment
59:00 Bob Feller's Fastball
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Eno and DVR discuss the greatness of Willie Mays following his passing at the age of 93 earlier this week. Plus, they take a look around the league at key injury news, including an opportunity in the Houston rotation with Justin Verlander's move to the IL, before checking in on minor-league news and notes, and a few early waiver-wire considerations for the weekend.
Rundown
5:31 Willie Mays Passes Away at 93
13:41 Gerrit Cole Returns From the IL
19:25 Kyle Bradish Undergoes Tommy John Surgery with Internal Brace
24:02 Max Scherzer Returning Saturday Against the Royals
30:56 Jake Bloss Getting a Call to Houston
35:42 Jordan Lawlar On Minor-League IL with Hamstring Strain
39:45 Dylan Crews Joins James Wood at Triple-A
43:15 Other Prospect News & Notes
51:47 Daniel Schneeman Getting a Look in Cleveland
56:35 Ben Rice and Other Bats to Consider
1:01:45 Tobias Myers Roster Rates on the Rise
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Eno, Britt, and DVR discuss MLB's disciplinary action against umpire Pat Hoberg for violating the league's gambling rules, and Hoberg's ongoing appeal. Plus, they consider the parity with all but two teams in the National League within two games of a playoff position as play began Tuesday, Fernando Tatis Jr.'s bid to return to stardom with less fanfare outside of San Diego, and Snoop Dogg's surprise visit to the Brewers broadcast over the weekend.
Rundown
1:12 Pat Hoberg Disciplined by MLB for Violating Gambling Rules
10:31 Can Hoberg's Appeal Actually Change Anything?
12:50 Mid-June Parity: Love It or Leave It?
28:57 Remind Us if This is Still Happening in September
34:05 Fernando Tatis Jr.'s Quiet Move Back Toward Stardom
42:36 Jurickson Profar's Amazing 2024
46:05 Snoop Dogg Dropped by the Brewers' TV Booth
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Eno and DVR discuss a weekend packed with impactful injuries, a few tough hitters to rank as their "new" roles become more stable, Manny Machado's push to play through injuries this season, and fallout from the weekend roster shuffle in weekly leagues.
Rundown
3:20 An Apology to Our Friends in Europe
8:46 Mookie Betts Suffers a Fractured Wrist
18:25 Yoshinobu Yamamoto: Goes on IL with Rotator Cuff Strain
24:01 Corbin Carroll Leaves with Oblique Injury
25:50 Trea Turner Returns; Is the Outfield A Possibility?
28:00 Bryan Woo's Forearm Discomfort
30:51 Tough Ranks: David Fry, David Hamilton & Addison Barger
46:57 Manny Machado & Playing Through Injuries
53:05 Where the Money Went: Saves in Seattle & Toronto, Cade Povich and DJ Herz
1:08:20 Weekend Drops of Note
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Eno, DVR and Trevor discuss historic Rickwood Field, ahead of next week's matchup between the Cardinals and Giants in Birmingham, teams with currently low playoff odds with a chance to rebound toward contention, and how they would approach hitting Yankees starter Luis Gil.
Read More about the history of Rickwood Field in this SABR article from Clarence Watkins: https://sabr.org/bioproj/park/rickwood-field-birmingham/
Rundown
3:52 Rickwood Field Hosting Cardinals-Giants Next Week
8:57 Where Else Should MLB Play Regular Season Games?
10:56 Trevor's Case for the Giants to Rebound Into 2024 Contention
18:33 Eno's Case for the Pirates
23:30 DVR's Case for the Reds & Attempting to Understand Andrew Abbott
38:06 How to Hit Against Luis Gil
54:54 Listener Question: Intangible Aspects of Playing 162 Games
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Eno and DVR search for buy-low bats and discussing the struggles of Austin Riley, Julio Rodríguez, and Dansby Swanson -- plus a group of hitters that may look like buy-low targets on the surface, but could underwhelm the rest of the way. Plus, they answer a few mailbag questions, and look ahead at potential pickups on the waiver wire this weekend.
Rundown
1:58 Austin Riley is Going to Be OK...Right?
6:18 Julio Rodríguez & Dansby Swanson
10:53 The 'Don't Buy' Lows
17:32 Corbin Carroll v. CJ Abrams in the Past Calendar Year
23:26 Is MJ Melendez the Opposite of Isaac Paredes?
30:09 What's Going on with Pablo López?
34:25 FanGraphs Custom Leaderboards as Watchlists
37:15 Should the Dodgers Target a Shortstop Instead of an Outfielder
44:51 Weekend Waiver Preview
55:14 First Impressions of Drew Thorpe
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Keith Law joins DVR to discuss a few intriguing names near the top of 2024 draft boards including Charlie Condon v. Travis Bazzana and Chase Burns v. Hagen Smith. Plus, they discuss the sluggish starts for many position players at the big-league level, the early success of Jackson Merrill, the Pirates' next wave of pitching prospects behind Paul Skenes and Jared Jones, and the ascent of James Wood to a top-five position on Keith's updated in-season prospect list.
Rundown
2:07 Charlie Condon v. Travis Bazzana
9:06 Nick Kurtz and Risk/Reward of a First Base Prospect Early
11:59 Chase Burnes v. Hagen Smith
19:01 The Increasingly Difficult Adjustment Phase for Rookie Hitters
30:35 Paul Skenes Meteoric Rise To Ace Status & Pittsburgh's Pitching Development
42:59 Does Luis Robert Jr. Make Sense for the Pirates?
52:14 Noah Schultz & James Wood Move Up the Prospect Ranks
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Katie Woo joins Eno and DVR to discuss several takeaways from The Athletic's 2024 MLB Player Poll including a few 'others receiving votes' for Baseball Player in Baseball behind Shohei Ohtani, the players' selections for 'most overrated' player, the organizations that have bad reputations among the players.
Check out the full poll here ($): https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5529966/2024/06/10/mlb-player-poll-overrated-underrated-worst-organization/
Rundown
2:27 The Others Receiving Votes for 'Best Player in Baseball'
9:45 Who Do the Players Think Is the Most Overrated Player in Baseball?
14:53 Who Called Yordan Alvarez and Juan Soto Overrated?
19:58 'Anthony Rendon Was Right -- The Season Is Too Long'
25:53 Where Do Players Want to Play, Removing a Few Variables
31:45 Organizations with Bad Reputations Among Players
39:40 Taking a Pause for the 2028 Summer Olympics?
46:34 The Impact of Analytics on Your Career
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Eno and DVR discuss a promotion-filled weekend including the debuts of Hurston Waldrep, Adael Amador and Tyler Locklear, and the expected arrival of Carlos F. Rodriguez to the Milwaukee rotation this week. Plus, they look back at where the free-agent bids were directed over the weekend.
Rundown
2:41 Hurston Waldrep's Debut Against the Nationals
8:06 Adael Amador Joins the Rockies
16:37 Tyler Locklear's Short-Term Fit in Seattle
21:15 Carlos F. Rodriguez: On Track for Tuesday Debut
28:05 Is Player Development Too Narrowly Focused in Some Organizations?
37:02 Promotions by Necessity Rather Than Desire?
41:06 Freddy Peralta's Poor Outings & Connection to Velocity Drops
44:50 Heliot Ramos Joins the Shallow League Fray
49:13 Finding Value in Max Meyer, Jake Irvin, Simeon Woods Richardson, David Peterson and JP Sears
56:53 Chas McCormick: The Healthy Drop of the Week
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Eno, DVR and Trevor discuss baseball's return to London for a two-game weekend series between the Phillies and Mets. An exciting matchup between Paul Skenes and Shohei Ohtani that took place in Pittsburgh earlier this week, how they would game plan trying to pitch to Ohtani, and two teams -- the Blue Jays and Cubs -- facing a critical stretch of schedule in the middle-third of the season.
Rundown
1:18 MLB Returns to London with Phillies-Mets
12:21 Paul Skenes v. Shohei Ohtani
18:41 The Game Plan: How We Would Pitch to Ohtani
28:11 At the Fork — The 2024 Blue Jays
32:44 It’s Not (All) Vladimir Guerrero Jr.’s Fault
41:37 At the Fork — The 2024 Cubs
50:31 Adding From the Inside: Cade Horton in the Second Half?
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Eno and DVR discuss some of the biggest risers and fallers among starting pitchers from April to May, over and underperformers compared to initial 2024 projections, pitching prospects closing in on opportunities to help their big-league clubs, and a few weekend waiver-wire targets to consider.
Rundown
1:25 Stuff+ Risers From April to May
6:34 From Below Average to OK, From OK to Good, and From Good to Great
11:42 Cooper Criswell Remains Interesting, Brandon Pfaadt Changes The Mix
15:16 Gavin Stone's Quietly Strong Season for the Dodgers
17:54 Stuff+ Fallers From April to May
22:44 A Willingness to Trade Shōta Imanaga?
26:05 YTD Performance vs. Initial Projections (from The BAT)
34:44 Project Prospect: A.J. Blubaugh's Future Path to the Astros' Rotation
39:18 Cade Povich's Similarities to Robert Gasser
44:25 Will Joey Cantillo Earn a Second-Half Rotation Spot in Cleveland
47:23 The Early Days of Justyn-Henry Malloy & Connor Norby in the Big Leagues
52:37 José Miranda, Blaze Alexander & Enmanuel Valdez
1:00:47 Tylor Megill Underrostered in Shallow Leagues
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Eno and DVR discuss a round of suspensions from MLB for gambling -- including a lifetime ban for Tucupita Marcano, before looking at some of the biggest risers and fallers among hitters from April to May.
Rundown
1:00 Tucupita Marcano: Lifetime Ban for Betting on Baseball
16:47 Biggest Shifts in Hitter Performance: April v. May
22:01 Risers From April to May
30:54 Rookie Bats in Month 2
38:39 Colton Cowser to Fallers From April to May
43:04 May Barrel Rate Risers
49:04 May Hard-Hit Rate Risers
52:04 Full-Season Projections v. Performance to Date
1:07:45 Is a Randy Arozarena Rebound On Tap?
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Eno and DVR discuss tough in-season decisions for the Tigers (Spencer Torkelson's demotion) and Twins (Edouard Julien's demotion), and the promotion of Connor Norby, before considering the factors to account for when trying to move on from pitchers that have performed very well during the first two months of the season.
Rundown
1:48 Spencer Torkelson: Optioned to Triple-A
8:31 Justyn-Henry Malloy Gets the Call
12:38 Royce Lewis' Return Bumps Edouard Julien to Triple-A
23:19 Connor Norby: Promoted by Orioles
29:08 Adam Mazur: Gets the Call to San Diego
31:42 Question of Our Times: Timing Value Drops for First-Half Stars
42:31 Which Pitchers Are You Most Worried About?
53:38 Where the Money Went: Yimi Garcia, Matt Vierling, Mark Vientos & David Hamilton
1:02:00 Reid Detmers' Long-Term Outlook
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Eno, DVR, and Trevor analyze the surprising step back for the Atlanta lineup through the first two months of 2024, and discuss players at pivotal points in their careers with a limited window to secure their future role. Plus, they'll take live questions from viewers throughout the show!
Rundown
1:33 More Changes From the Mets; Christian Scott & Brett Baty Optioned to Triple-A
12:55 What's Happening in Atlanta's Lineup?
20:27 Teams Are Pitching the Braves Differently
25:17 Can Hitters Adjust Quickly to a Change Like This?
28:25 A Closer Look at Matt Olson
34:15 Practice Swings Revealing A Hitter's Plan?
37:40 Confidence Levels in Albies, Riley, Harris, Kelenic Getting to Power Again?
42:49 When Careers Reach Pivot Points
57:20 Who Is Your Favorite MLB One-Hit Wonder?
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Eno and DVR discuss the news that MLB has integrated stats from the Negro Leagues into its official records, a bad day for the Mets, fallers from Eno's latest Starting Pitcher Rankings update, prospect news, and a few names to consider as waiver-wire targets this weekend.
Rundown
1:18 Negro League Stats Added to MLB's Official Records
7:06 An Eventful Day for the Mets
11:52 'There is No Way They Are the Worst Team in Baseball'
16:42 Fallers From Eno's Starting Pitcher Rankings Update
($) https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5513570
30:45 The Z-Contact% Laggardboard
36:40 Ben Brown's Excellent Outing, Window to Continue Starting
39:40 Junior Caminero, Jasson Dominguez, James Wood, Jett Williams & Drew Gilbert Updates
47:05 Can Chase DeLauter Take Over a Spot in Cleveland By Season's End?
50:00 Jacob Wilson: Another Low Barreler with a Great Hit Tool?
52:22 Spencer Schwellenback Arrives
56:17 Matt Waldron & Other Weekend Waiver-Wire Considerations
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Eno and DVR discuss a brutal diagnosis for Ronald Acuña Jr., who suffered another torn ACL over the weekend. Plus, they consider the ongoing struggles of Corbin Carroll, Ángel Hernández's abrupt retirement, and a few May risers from Eno's updated Starting Pitcher Rankings.
Rundown
2:06 Ronald Acuña Jr.'s 2024 Season Ends with Another Torn ACL
10:43 The Ongoing Struggles of Corbin Carroll
18:43 Victor Robles: DFA'd by Nationals
27:13 Is Passing on Low Barrel Rate Bats An Easy Call?
31:15: Ángel Hernández Retires
35:24 Injury Updates: Cristian Javier, Jorge Polanco & Kodai Senga
46:49 May Risers: Eno's Updated Starting Pitcher Rankings
($) https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5513570
59:38 Jake Meyers & Colt Keith As Popular Weekend Waiver-Wire Adds
1:09:35 David Fry is Unbelievable
1:12:09 Casey Mize's Rapidly Declining Stuff
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are there baby velociraptors in the background around the 19 min mark?
time stamps so off it annoying
im looking for an eno-saurus anybody seen one?
i never take into account say i take a 3 15 steal guys at the bottom of a draft, the gotcha is, how often will you be willing to start these scrubs anyway? you'll likely get like 5 of those steals! that's why trae turner is extremely valuable, you get all of his steals and he doesn't hurt you in other categories.