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Kara Swisher, Silicon Valley’s most revered journalist, hosts candid interviews with tech execs, politicians, celebrities and more about their big ideas and how they’re changing our world. Produced by Recode and the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Recode's Kara Swisher convenes a panel of experts to talk about section 230 of the Communications Decency Act: cybersecurity law professor Jeff Kosseff, author of "The Twenty Six Words That Created The Internet"; lawyer Carrie Goldberg, author of "Nobody’s Victim: Fighting Psychos, Stalkers, Pervs, and Trolls"; and the CEO and founder of Techdirt, Mike Masnick.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostJeff Kosseff (@jkosseff), guestCarrie Goldberg (@cagoldberglaw), guestMike Masnick (@mmasnick), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Writer Joe Menn talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "Cult of the Dead Cow: How the Original Hacking Supergroup Might Just Save the World."In this episode:How Menn started writing about cybercrime; the rise and fall of Napster; his first book about hacking, “Fatal System Error”; the origins of Cult of the Dead Cow; “they’re basically good guys”; its invite-only membership and how it works; how it forced Microsoft to take security seriously; how future presidential candidate Beto O’Rourke got involved; what other CDC alumni are doing today; the state of cybercrime in 2019; the complexity of protecting yourself online; the government’s attempts to undermine encryption; the 2020 election; and what the US should do to protect its citizens.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostJoe Menn (@josephmenn), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Mike Volpi and Danny Rimer, the co-founders of the San Francisco office of Index Ventures, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher.In this episode:Volpi and Rimer's backgrounds and the early days of the internet; applying a global perspective to venture capital; being a smaller firm when capital is abundant; why the rise of other regions does not mean  Silicon Valley is "over"; open-source culture in Europe; Latin America, Israel, and China; scooters, autonomous driving, and the future of urban mobility; disrupting the beauty and fashion industries; disrupting venture capital itself; over-empowered founders and the WeWork CEO's $700 million cash-out; diversity in tech; techlash and antitrust regulation; and the most overhyped and most underhyped categories in tech.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostMike Volpi (@mavolpi), guestDanny Rimer (@dannyrimer), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the GiantsWatch Kara's 2008 interview with Volpi about his video startup, Joost
US Congressman Ro Khanna, who represents California's 17th district, joins Recode's Kara Swisher live onstage at Manny's in San Francisco to talk about the state of tech policy and the next elections.In this episode:Khanna's internet bill of rights; will we ever have a national privacy bill?; the problem with "break them up"; the FTC’s Facebook fine; President Trump's racist attacks on the “squad” and Democrats’ reactions; the current mood in Washington; is Silicon Valley "over?”; Trump’s continued popularity; working on the Bernie Sanders campaign; Khanna’s second choice, Elizabeth Warren; Medicare for All; Russian attacks on elections; ensuring the health of tech; the problems with facial recognition; and government regulation of speech online.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostRo Khanna (@RepRoKhanna), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Scott Kupor, the managing partner of Andreessen Horowitz, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher and Teddy Schleifer about his new book, Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital and How to Get It. In this episode: How Kupor became a venture capitalist; his role at Andreessen Horowitz; what makes AH different from other venture firms; how other firms have copied it; why Kupor wrote his book; the “secrets” of how VCs think; stories that founders tell employees and investors; working with limited partners; why firms have to give founders so much control; the friction of removing CEOs; diversity in VC; what’s next for venture capital; how Andreessen Horowitz is looking at opportunity zones; and is Silicon Valley “over?”Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostTeddy Schleifer (@teddyschleifer), co-hostScott Kupor (@skupor), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Inspired by the trendiness of intermittent fasting in the tech community, Kara Swisher's executive producer, Erica Anderson, talks with three eating habit experts — a biohacker, an academic, and an eating disorder specialist.In this episode: HVMN CEO Geoff Woo on the culture of body optimization, the mainstreaming of biohacking, and how humans are "approaching God"; aging and nutrition expert Dr. Valter Longo on the origins of biohacking, the science behind intermittent fasting, and the problem with Silicon Valley's interpretations of the practice; and the executive director of the National Easting Disorder Association, Claire Mysko, on the line between eccentric diets and disorders, the wellness industry, and what to do if someone you know needs help.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostGeoff Woo (@geoffreywoo), guestClaire Mysko (@clairemysko), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Larry Diamond, a professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Ill Winds: Saving Democracy from Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency.In this episode:Diamond’s background studying the development and failure of democracies; authoritarian regimes and the internet; why the book is called “Ill Winds”; the right-wing populist backlash across Europe; the deeper frustrations underneath anti-immigration sentiment; why Hillary Clinton lost the electoral college; how Russia, the "fallen superpower," is intervening in elections around the world; Mitch McConnell's obstinacy; "pretty close to treason"; the "risk of sliding into a new Cold War"; why China is the bigger threat in the long term; its tight control of Chinese citizens and companies; how will its rise affect US policy?; how China's people will react when the prosperity stops; declining American investment in R&D; "sleepwalking into the future"; how two-party politics have paralyzed the US; Diamond's proposed solution, ranked-choice voting; the danger of online voting; and the fight against gerrymandering, voter suppression, and polarization.Came here from The Bill Simmons Podcast? We rounded up a few favorite episodes we think fans of The Ringer will enjoy. Take a look!Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostLarry Diamond (@LarryDiamond), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Lauren Underwood, the US Congresswoman who represents Illinois' 14th district, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded on July 29, 2019 at Manny's in San Francisco.In this episode: Underwood’s background in healthcare and the Obama administration; why she decided to run for Congress at age 30; gerrymandering in Illinois; how Underwood won the Democratic primary; why she beat the incumbent Tea Party Republican, Randy Hultgren; "Pat, Barb, Sue and Marge"; being a congresswoman in a swing district; the Russia investigation and why Underwood has not called for Trump’s impeachment; how will Underwood keep her seat?; “toxic” 2020 presidential candidates; why Democrats need to stop chasing hashtag-friendly labels for their policies; the many interpretations of "Medicare For All”; how to work within a divided Democratic Party; meeting a Twitter troll in real life; can the Democrats keep the House and win the White House?; what should 2020 candidates be talking about?; and racial politics in 2018 and 2020.Came here from Lovett or Leave It? We rounded up a few favorite episodes we think Crooked Media fans will enjoy. Take a look!Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostLauren Underwood (@LaurenUnderwood), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
Pearson CEO John Fallon talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the company is pivoting from print to digital textbooks.In this episode: Fallon’s background; the publishing industry’s slow-motion embrace of the internet; “the $300 textbook is dead”; how Pearson will make money from a cheaper digital textbook; competing with well-funded education startups; how Pearson’s Aida will grade calculus problems and, one day, essays; why teachers won’t be made obsolete; how the school of the future will be informed by the skills needed in the job market; why do students still need to physically go somewhere to learn?; how Pearson thinks about its competition; working with tech companies like Amazon and Microsoft; and the state of democracy in Boris Johnson's UK.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostJohn Fallon (@johnfallon), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
In this live interview, Recode's Kara Swisher talks with former Cambridge Analytica COO Julian Wheatland, early Facebook investor Roger McNamee, and the director and writer of the new Netflix documentary The Great Hack — Karim Amer and Pedro Kos. Then, later in the show, Recode’s Jason Del Rey explores the origins of Amazon Prime, why it’s so effective at keeping us locked into their ecosystem, and how it became the source of the company’s power.In this episode:How Wheatland looks back on the Cambridge Analytica scandal and what went wrong; how Amer and Kos approached the subject to turn it into a documentary; Facebook’s evasion of responsibility; what the filmmakers want to happen as a result of their work; why Wheatland decided to be in the documentary; the “fix it” mentality vs. assigning blame; the fragility of western democracy; Brittany Kaiser, the key character of The Great Hack; how Facebook and Google are like chemical companies in the 1950s; and what's next for the people involved in the film.More information about Land of the Giants:Land of the Giants is a new podcast from Recode and the Vox Media Podcast Network about the five major technology companies (Facebook, Apple, Amazon, Netflix, and Google – or “FAANG”) that have reshaped our world. Each season focuses on one of the giants and explores the ways that it’s changed our lives – for better and for worse. The first season is about The Rise of Amazon and is hosted by Recode’s Jason Del Rey. Enjoy this special preview of the first episode, Why You’ll Never Quit Amazon Prime, and subscribe to Land of the Giants for free in your favorite podcast app to hear the rest of the episode and to get new episodes automatically.Vote for us:Recode Decode has been nominated for best technology podcast in this year’s People’s Choice Podcast Awards! Cast your vote for Recode Decode at https://www.podcastawards.com/app/signup before July 31st. One vote per category.Follow usKara Swisher (@karaswisher), hostKarim Amer (@Karim_Amer33), guestJulian Wheatland (@JulianWheatland), guestRoger McNamee (@Moonalice), guestErica Anderson (@EricaAmerica), executive producerEric Johnson (@HeyHeyESJ), producerMore to exploreIf you haven't already, subscribe to Recode DecodeSubscribe to Recode's other podcasts: Recode Media, Pivot, and Land of the Giants
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Comments (32)

James Royall

Larry Diamond is a no nothing airbag. He doesn't have an honest bone in his body. And Kara you know better than his BS propaganda.

Aug 11th
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Esther  Lopez

James Royall 🤔🤔

Aug 12th
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km

I believe that you are correct about "toxic" candidates running in this presidential race - electing them will lead to continued gridlock. Andrew Yang is the one to bet on. He is speaking to the real problems and potential solutions that many know/feel but have not been brought to mainstream attention (due to the MSM bubble world). His message is cutting through the noise for those he get exposure to it though. Some recent, highly visible, individuals who have embraced his message: Van Jones; Anderson Cooper; Whoopi Goldberg; Jack Dorsey. #yang2020

Aug 6th
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Tom MacDonald

Cara as a moderator should hang up her hat. she seems to constantly interrupt and inject her own policies and her own ideals into the conversation. There's nothing wrong with having a good to a spirited conversation to Spur debate but she doesn't seem to be the bait oriented she just more seems to be more into pronouncements

Aug 5th
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guitarforumdude

Really good interview. The most relevant question, "who gets to choose what's 'enough'" with regard to "important" issues, was never answered by Sam. Clearly, as an entitled white dude, Sam believes only he, and those that agree with him, are the only arbiters of logic and reason. NO one gets more butthurt over perceived slights more than Sam, and that's what makes his constant whining about "cancel culture" so laughably ironic.

Aug 5th
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Gabriel

guitarforumdude Great interview!

Aug 5th
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Tom MacDonald

not super impressed with Karen. Her interviewing Style leaves me with the impression that she wants to be interviewed and not the interviewer. She's constantly completing sentences for Ray and filling in the pauses with her own point of view and perspective and he has to constantly course correct her back to the concept he is trying to get across to the listener. She needs to take some classes.

Aug 4th
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Tom MacDonald

I think the moderators name was Cara? when she was interviewing Ray a fairly successful guy I would be willing to assume much more successful than she is for financially anyway maybe not in other methods I don't know him personally. But as a talk show host myself you don't constantly interrupt the guest you don't constantly fill in the sentences for them or complete the sentences for them in the way you think they should be completed. I have to say I think Ray Ray showed a rare amount of patience in answering her questions and letting her prattle on. I got the impression she wants to be the one to be interviewed

Aug 4th
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Pete Mauro

👋

Jul 11th
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Matt Masotti

An entertaining 1:40 of Kara barely listening.

Jul 9th
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Laura Salo

"I've never taken drugs. Ever. None! ...I did smoke pot once." -interviewer. Smug moron clearly doesn't understand the difference between truth and bullshit.

Jun 29th
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yakurbe 0112

I greatly enjoyed the bickering about what happened on Twitter. I know I shouldn't have, and I don't know anything about what actually happened, but it was just so humanizing after all the stuff with identity politics and religion. I'm glad you talked with Sam despite it all

Jun 8th
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CJ

Not a big fan of Kara’s style. A little bit insufferable. Maybe she’s been in SF for too long and is starting to get full of herself. Just listened to the Mark Cuban and Steve Case episode and those guys were great. If we could just remove any time Kara talked from the episode, that would be even better.

May 31st
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Lauren mccaffrey

Do she not like weed? I was legit lighting a joint when she told me to put it down. Does anyone know if she’s actually against marijuana LOL

May 30th
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William M Westcott

She was actually pretty nice to him.

May 28th
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William M Westcott

As opposed to the non idealogical Sam Harris lol. Kara likes pushing people on her interviews regardless of their ideology.

May 28th
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Mai

I heard her trying to swing the conversation to her perspective and not actually listening. I like Sam because he gets to the point without worrying about how it comes off and the issue with people who interview him is they demand he take feelings into consideration in his wording instead of listening for meaning. He kindly assumes people are smart enough to get the point but they are so often not

May 28th
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Eric Staples

William M Westcott Where does Mai say "constantly misinterpreted"? You just pulled that straw man out of thin air.

May 28th
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William M Westcott

Mai If people are constantly misinterpreting him I would argue that it’s a failure on his part. One which he has no interest in thinking about. Lolol you guys are funny.

May 28th
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Gene

The underlying reason people want to cheat death is that they see an inherent indignity in dying. No one wants to turn into a cold ass corpse staring blankly into the space with a fly crawling into their mouth. Instead of trying to extend death indefinitely, we should think about how to live the most dignified life possible - improve healthcare, restore sense of community, reduce inequality. Don't be Voldemort and make horcruxes, be Harry and embrace death as equals.

May 28th
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Josh Bryan

Kara was pretty bad. Idealogues are always insufferable.

May 22nd
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Eric Staples

William M Westcott She said in response to Sam correcting her calling Christopher "Chris", "well fine, he's dead. Too bad." That's not her "pushing" her guest, that's her being a shitty host.

May 28th
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Josh Bryan

William M Westcott Admittedly I don't follow Kara much, but her available articles and self description are fairly clear as to where she falls on the ideological spectrum. Conversely, I have followed Sam for many years, primarily for his writings on theology. His ideology, for the most part, is based in logic and reason which resonates with me. I don't really think of Sam having an ideology probably because I associate the term as having a basis in things other than reason. Kara's near constant snarky comments rubbed me the wrong way at times.

May 28th
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Elan Zankman

I had to stop listening hallway through because Kara was consistently rude to her guest. Why was she being such a bitch?

May 19th
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Tom MacDonald

William M Westcott her thing is not my thing

Aug 4th
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Adam Itinerant

Elan Zankman First and last time I'll listen to her. Rude, ungracious, uninterested in understanding her guest, arguing with what she wished he'd said.

May 29th
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Deepak Sridhar

Chamath is the personification of the hubris of silicon valley. I can't stand his ego but I enjoy listening to him on podcasts cause he is a good barometer of the world view of the average out of touch silicon valley bro.

Mar 4th
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Matt Uddenberg

While I agree with a lot of what this guy is saying, the sheer amount of ego he put forth was rather nauseating. Especially when it comes to his great epiphany that living for external validation and material wealth to the exclusion of other things will lead to unhappiness. No shit, there are literally stories and religions going back thousands of years preaching this same thing. It's like Christopher Columbus landing on an island full of people and saying, "look what I discovered." Also, his complaint about people wanting to punish success was really telling. No, that is not the issue. We are in the middle of the wealthiest time in this country's history and kids are starving, homeless people are everywhere and infrastructure is falling apart. All the while billonares are going to save us by telling us shit we already know and investing their money and time in things we don't need. Clearly changes need to be made.

Mar 4th
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