Referential

Video episode 4 Vid version available to view on the Spotify app or link below to watch the YouTube version https://youtu.be/K6Oh0AgeLaw For this video episode I'm joined by first time guest Shannon Miller (OG Nerd of Prey!!) to talk about the theme of Black Girlhood and Coming of Age in media. Shannon Miller is a cultural commentator and writer who you might know from her work as the previous Managing Editor at Adweek, the former News Editor and writer at the A.V. Club, or her many bylines from throughout the web! Our conversation spanned Black film, TV, characters and celebrity from Michaela Cole's Chewing Gum to Jodie Landon (Daria) and Megan Thee Stallion. + Find out how we also fit the following in: Adultification Depiction of Black girls and femmes in media Realities of Black girls and femmes Coming of age narratives in media The current state of Black television The erosion of physical media and Black TV cancellations Judging art by quality vs utility Empathy as an active process Escapism Steven Universe Black girl magic Toxic Excellence I Don't Know Him. Daria, Chewing Gum, Living Single, How To Die Alone, Heartstoppers, Harlem, Moon Girl and Devil Dinosaur, Moesha, Insecure, Awkward Black Girl, On My Block Wanting good things for Natasha Rothwell Transitional periods Issa Rae Megan Thee Stallion Cardi B, take me out of the group chat Michaela Coel SNIPER Buy Black! *apologies for audio issues on my end in the first 18ish minutes of the conversation, it fixes it self from that point onwards!* Find Shannon Miller @shannonlmiller on all Bluesky, @shannon_lmiller and listen to more of her pop culture thoughts @PopDishKitchen on TikTok and Instagram. Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung. Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok) Subscribe to our Youtube Page! : https://www.youtube.com/@referentialp More at www.alsopurple.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

REFERENTIAL BOOK CLUB #1 (?) Victor and I have read a book (!). Listen to our discussion of the queer book of the moment 'Fruit Fly' by Josh Silver. + Domestic Thrillers The state of Gay publishing Chemsex The Morning Show Brazilian Elections Book spoilers from 30 mins! Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST's patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________ Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. Find Kaela @itskaelashanti on tiktok and @KaelaShanti on insta! Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok) Subscribe to our Youtube Page! https://youtube.com/@referentialpod More at www.alsopurple.com ___________ Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast! NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell's 'Blue' with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Back to regular programming! [Part 1 of a series.] Have you ever heard the term 'digital blackface'? The Real Housewives franchise has spawned a million gifs and opinions; all asking if this is how 'we'' should be represented- and what these shows mean for the community. For Episode 3 we decided to examine that statement through a discussion about Bravo's Black led Real Housewives franchise (with some thoughts on the other casts sprinkled in). Do these shows reduce Black women to something problematic for mass entertainment? Or is it us who do that work because of our hang ups? I’m joined by screenwriter, social media producer and classically trained musician (?!) Lauren Warren (Nerd of Prey!)(Caw!!)(most recently a finalist in the ScreenCraft Virtual Pitch Competition) to talk all about Bravo's Real Housewives franchise. We cover Real Housewives of Atlanta [RHOA] and Real Housewives of Potomac [RHOP], with thoughts on some of the other casts sprinkled throughout (Orange County, New York, New Jersey, DC, Salt Lake City and Vancouver). Listen to us think about existing as a Black woman in public, failing in public, respectability and the weight of representation + Find out how we also fit the following into the discussion Secret lesbians, queerness, panic and RHOA Kim, whiteness and power in early RHOA Corporate activism as a commercial exercise Colorism, and RHOP The collapse of polite fiction, pretence and reality in public Shout out to The Nerds of Prey! Mash Ups and Remixes Alaska the cat attacks Pocket gays Double standards The reality reckoning Reality vs Documentary Nene Leakes you will always be famous Bravo’s Flop era Existing If you like homework, or looking for a recommendation list you can find the 'Citation Page' for this episode on my website, available from the first Sunday after the episode is up! ! https://www.alsopurple.com/citation-corner You'll find all the quotes, books, tv, and pods referenced and recommender in this conversation. Find Lauren Warren @TheValidVictorian on Instagram and @IamLaurenP2 on Twitter all the socials! Keep up to date by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. Produced and hosted by Dr. Khaliden Nas. Music by PamperedFists & Anzahlung. Podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. Video production by Victor Alexander (Find more on the REFERENTIAL Youtube page!) Find out what I’m up to at www.alsopurple.com Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast! Thank you for listening! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Drop Call #14 New drop call episode! I'm joined by new guest and friend of the pod Noor from The Reality Is podcast! We talk about what it's like existing as an opinionated muslim queer on the internet + Orientalism: reimagined. Muslim cool Ed Sheeran would hate this episode Diaspora link up Whatsapp Aunties Raising Muslim kids Reality and reality tv Hypocrisy empaths Islam, queerness and homophobia Guilt and getting over it Intersectional Hell Global warming! Passing, hiding and existing Unpacking the valley! Is Kristen Doute ok? Turns out the patriarchy is bad everywhere Subscribe to REFERENTIAL PODCAST's patreon! https://www.patreon.com/ReferentialPodcast Keep up to date with Khaliden and the podcast by following @AlsoPurp on all socials. __________ Find Noor @TheRealityIsPod on Instagram and Threads! Additional video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok) Subscribe to our Youtube Page! https://youtube.com/@referentialpod More at www.alsopurple.com Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. ___________ Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast! NEXT UP: MIX #2: Joni Mitchell's 'Blue' with Karen Charm + The Girlsisode with Victor Alexander! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Video Episode 5 A Queer Retrospective of Xena The Warrior Princess (& Gabrielle) Ringing in September with the long awaited Xenasode! I'm joined by returning guest Best Issue Ever's Sara Century! This SUPERSIZED episode features discussion of: A brief history of lesbianism on television A queer history of 90s television Birth of slashfic Xena as a queer historical text Why Lucy Lawless & Renee O'Conner will always be gay famous Why Xena did it first Leather & Lesbians Butch queers exist WHOOSH Revengence Worst Ex Girlfriend Rural Queers Callisto, ally? Syndication, serialisation, long form storytelling, spin offs. Sam Raimi R.J. Stewart Rob Tapert Liz Friedman Bruce Campbell Karl Urban! Hercules The Legendary Journeys and Kevin Sorbo (flop) Elizabeth Taylor Lord of the Rings Wire-Fu Buffy the Vampire Slayer My Name is Earl (?) Context, subtext and subtext in context "Subtext" queers The glee effect FRIENDS Embracing the 'problematic' Pacifism Sara and Khaliden's Top 4 'Xena the Warrior Princess' episodes for newcomers! Support REFERENTIAL on Patreon! + Check out the official unofficial part 1of this crossover on Best Issue Ever where I talk to Sara about my favourite lesbian couple in comics Find Sara at www.saracentury.com and support Sara Century and Alex Segura's comic The Forgotten Five! Original podcast Artwork by Valentine M. Smith. Follow Khaliden @alsopurp everywhere Subscribe to Best Issue Ever everywhere you get your pods! Follow @saracentury on instagram! Video Production by Victor Alexander (@Ugly_knees on insta and @clevvergirl on Tiktok) Subscribe to our Youtube Page! https://youtube.com/@referentialpod More at www.alsopurple.com Thank you Layla for the help with this edit! ___________ Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to leave a 5 star rating and review to help people find the podcast! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy