In this episode, Doug gives a talk summarizing the Cosmic War of the Sons of God series, but with particular focus on a couple of ideas not discussed in the series. There’s a little Divine Council overview from the Reformed perspective. There’s cosmic mountain ideas and how that actually ties to doctrine of covenants we Reformed folks like to discuss. The seventy is here as is the doctrine of election and how it pertains to the cosmic war. If you are interested in more, including early access to coming Fringe episodes, go to www.reformedfringe.com
Behold, what manner of love… that we should be called the sons of God” (1 John 3:1).The story of the seventy: We flip the hourglass: heaven’s angelic sons once ruled; now, through Christ, humans reclaim dominion. • Adam: Son of God, seated on Eden’s divine council—prophet, priest, king. He fell; nations given to 70 heavenly sons at Babel (Deut 32:8). • Reversal: God elects the younger—Adam over angels, Israel over nations, Christ over all. • Jesus: Second Adam, sends 70, crushes Satan, pours Spirit at Pentecost—Babel undone. • Christians: Adopted sons, Spirit-led, judging angels (1 Cor 6:3), treading serpents, heirs with Christ.Armor Up (Eph 6): Truth, righteousness, gospel, faith, salvation, Word.The war rages, but victory’s won. Nothing separates us from Christ’s love (Rom 8:37–39).
Prepare to be captivated by the thrilling fourth installment of "The Cosmic War of the Sons of God" on the Reformed Fringe podcast, where we dive into the profound identity of Jesus as the Son of God. This episode unveils how Jesus, the eternal Son, stands at the center of a cosmic battle, bridging heaven and earth to reclaim the nations from fallen angelic powers. From Psalm 2’s declaration of the Son’s divine inheritance to his victorious confrontations with Satan at his birth, baptism, temptation, and resurrection, discover how Jesus’ identity as the Son of God dismantles the enemy’s stronghold. Uncover the shocking truth of how second-century rabbis altered key Old Testament texts to obscure Jesus’ divinity, and why this cosmic war matters for your faith today. Tune in to this episode to grasp the awe-inspiring power of Jesus, the Son of God, who conquers all spiritual forces and offers you redemption through his triumph—your hope in the battle depends on it!
Dive into the electrifying third installment of "The Cosmic War of the Sons of God" on the Reformed Fringe podcast, where we unravel the mysterious "sons of God" in the Old Testament. Doug will explore the shocking truth that these are not human figures but supernatural beings—angels tasked with ruling nations, yet some fell into rebellion, sparking a cosmic battle that reverberates through history. From Genesis 6’s enigmatic Nephilim to the divine council in Psalm 82, discover how these texts were altered by ancient rabbis to obscure Jesus’ divinity, revealing Satan’s schemes to undermine the Gospel. Listen to uncover why this war matters for your faith, how it connects to Jesus as the true Son of God, and why understanding this epic struggle will transform your view of Scripture and the spiritual realm. Tune in for a mind-bending journey that equips you to stand firm in the cosmic conflict!
"Thou shalt have no other gods before me" ... You're familiar with the commandment, but are you sure that you know what this means and all that it entails? As we continue our 5 week series on the cosmic wars of heaven during this Reformation Month, we lay down the groundwork for the next few weeks' messages which will give you a world-view that will blow your mind.
It's Reformation Month! for the next 5 weeks I am taking the opportunity to give my congregation a sermon series on the Cosmic War of the sons of God. I decided to share this teaching with you as well. In establishing this teaching, our first episode is simply titled "God".
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What really happened in the garden? Was it just a snake, or something far more supernatural? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into Genesis 3 with Hebrew insights, ancient context, and biblical connections. From the serpent’s true identity to how the gospel shines through the fall, this episode explores the depth beneath the flannelgraph version. Don’t miss this conversation that grounds the fringe in Christ-centered hope. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [74]
What does the first commandment really mean when it says, “You shall have no other gods before me”? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the biblical language around Elohim, showing how Scripture speaks about spiritual beings while upholding the uniqueness of Yahweh. We tackle the common misunderstandings that arise when people assume the Bible denies the existence of other “gods,” explaining instead how the prophets and apostles used comparative and polemical language. If you’ve ever wondered how to reconcile these passages or why it matters for how we understand Christ and the gospel, this conversation is for you. DREW GRUMBLES’S ARTICLE SERIES JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [73]
What does the word God really mean? Has it always meant the same thing? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive deep into the etymology of Elohim, Theos, Deus, and God, unpacking how language and culture have shaped our understanding of the divine. We tackle questions of monotheism, the supernatural worldview of Scripture, and why context matters more than capitalization. Whether you’re a theology nerd or simply curious about how words shape belief, this discussion will challenge and expand the way you read your Bible. DOUG’S ARTICLE - Gods vs. God: Unmasking the Semantic Showdown in Biblical Monotheism DREW GRUMBLES’S ARTICLE SERIES JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [72]
What truly sets God apart from the gods? How does that connect to the age-old debate about free will and predestination? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the supernatural side of salvation, exploring why the real opposite of free will might actually be the bondage of the will. From the nature of God’s incommunicable attributes to the “golden chain” of Romans 8, we unpack how predestination, calling, and regeneration are all divine acts of grace. Whether you’re new to the topic or have wrestled with it for years, this conversation bridges theology and the fringe with depth, clarity, and a few Bigfoot donut jokes along the way. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [71]
What if the “other gods” in the Ten Commandments weren’t just ancient metaphors, but real spiritual beings still at work today? Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dig into the biblical distinction between having gods and making idols, showing how these entities operated in ancient Israel’s time and how their influence still pulls us toward modern temptations like materialism, sexual obsession, and self-worship. We uncover how idols once served as access points to these beings and why the prophets’ mockery never denied their reality. We challenge you to recognize this ongoing spiritual battle and to resist through the gospel, the means of grace, and unwavering loyalty to Christ. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [70]
Is Ezekiel 1 really about UFOs and ancient astronauts? Or are we missing something bigger? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn dive into the strange imagery of fire, wheels within wheels, and four-faced creatures to show how Ezekiel’s vision isn’t about aliens, but the glory of God and His divine council. We unpack how this scene fits into the Bible’s bigger story, why it would’ve made perfect sense to ancient readers, and how reclaiming the Bible’s supernatural worldview points us to Christ. If you've ever wondered what Ezekiel was really seeing, this one's for you. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [69]
Is the divine council worldview just fringe theology? Or can it actually fit within confessional Reformed categories? That’s the tension we’re pressing into in this episode. Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn take on the growing pushback from some in the Reformed world who see divine council theology, popularized by Michael Heiser, as incompatible with Reformed theology and the confessions. But is that critique fair? Can you hold to historic Reformed orthodoxy and affirm that the supernatural worldview of the Bible includes a real, functioning heavenly host? Is it heretical? Or just unfamiliar? And why have so many Reformed voices, past and present, quietly affirmed far more than some are comfortable admitting? If you've felt the tension between confessional boundaries and the weird-but-biblical parts of Scripture, this one’s for you. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Host Websites: Jon Moffitt Doug Van Dorn YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [68]
Recorded live at Grace Reformed Church in Nashville, TN, this special episode features hosts Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn exploring the mysterious world of Genesis 6. Together, we examine the controversial identity of the "sons of God" and the Nephilim, walking through biblical texts and early church history to weigh the natural and supernatural interpretations. We connect ancient giants to the broader biblical storyline of redemption and spiritual warfare. We unpack how New Testament writers like Peter and Jude interpret these strange events and why they matter for Christians today. Along the way, we emphasize a supernatural worldview often missing in modern Reformed circles. This episode is a thought-provoking journey into the fringes of Scripture that invites believers to take their Bibles—and the unseen realm—seriously. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [67]
Are aliens real? Are they physical, spiritual, or something in between? In this wide-ranging conversation, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn approach the topic not as clickbait—but as pastors. With compassion, Scripture, and curiosity, they explore how Christians can think biblically about supernatural encounters, abduction stories, UFO sightings, and the growing sense that something strange is going on in our world. What if angels, demons, and the unseen realm help explain what others dismiss or mock? And how do we shepherd people who’ve experienced things they can’t explain? Whether you're skeptical or seeking, this episode invites you into a conversation the church has often avoided—but can no longer ignore. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [66]
Is it possible we’re missing a vital “sense” when we read the Bible? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore what they call the sixth sense of biblical interpretation—a supernatural awareness grounded in Scripture itself. More than grammar and history, rightly reading the Bible requires a Christ-centered, covenantal, and cosmic lens that takes seriously the divine authorship behind the text. Drawing from six core interpretive tools—including continuity, context, and law/gospel contrast—they show how Scripture comes alive when we recover its heavenly dimension. This episode is both practical and paradigm-shifting for anyone who wants to read the Bible the way Jesus and the apostles did. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [65]
Why did every ancient culture worship multiple gods—and why does it seem like they vanished? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore a stunning reality: the gods never really left. From ancient paganism to modern materialism, we trace how spiritual beings—once openly worshiped—have simply gone underground, rebranding themselves in culture, media, and even religion. Drawing from Scripture, ancient history, and biblical theology, we show how the gods still influence the world today, just under new disguises. If you’ve ever wondered why the Bible forbids worshiping “other gods,” or how Paul ties sensuality to sorcery, this episode will challenge everything you thought you knew about the supernatural. The gods are still here—but only the gospel has the power to silence them. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [64]
Is the world less enchanted than it used to be—or are we just blind to the heavens above us? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore Clinton Manley’s Desiring God article “Do You See the Heavenly Hosts?”—a positive, re-enchanting vision of the supernatural realm. We walk through the “map of heaven” Scripture reveals: a real kingdom filled with messengers, guardians, ministers, armies, attendants, and a divine council—all centered around King Jesus. Drawing from Colossians, Psalm 82, and Isaiah 6, we challenge the materialism modern believers unknowingly breathe and invite you to set your minds where Christ is—seated in glory. This isn’t fantasy—it’s biblical reality. Join us as we put the fringe back into heaven. Clinton Manley’s Article - Do You See the Heavenly Host? JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [63]
Was Jesus actually in Genesis? Most Christians believe Christ shows up in prophecy or type, but what if He was physically present—over and over again? In this episode, Jon Moffitt and Doug Van Dorn explore 20 stunning appearances of the pre-incarnate Christ throughout the book of Genesis. From walking in the garden, wrestling Jacob, and dining with Abraham, to commanding Noah and calling Hagar by name, we trace the embodied Son of God moving in real time through redemptive history. Using Christ’s own hermeneutic (Luke 24), we challenge the idea that Jesus is absent until the Gospels—and instead show that Genesis is saturated with the presence of the Son. If you think the Old Testament is silent on Jesus, this episode will blow that assumption wide open. JOIN THE REFORMED FRINGE COMMUNITY! Hosts: Jon Moffitt - http://jonmoffitt.com Doug Van Dorn - http://douglasvandorn.com YOUTUBE INSTAGRAM X (TWITTER) FACEBOOK Reformed Fringe [62]