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Relating to DevSecOps
Relating to DevSecOps
Author: Ken Toler and Mike McCabe
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© 2026 Relating to DevSecOps
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A Podcast dedicated to forging iron clad relationships between developers, engineers, operations, and security practitioners by discussing hot topics in the world of DevSecOps. This podcast aims to air out some of the common gripes, misconceptions, and hardships that these teams face in the real world every day.
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Send us Fan Mail AI is changing the economics of cyberattacks by making them faster, cheaper, and easier to scale. In this episode of Relating to DevSecOps, Ken is joined by Conor Sherman, Chief Security Officer at Sysdig and host of the Zero Signal podcast, to explore what the rise of agentic threat actors means for defenders. Using the Jade Puffer ransomware attack as a real-world example, they discuss how autonomous attackers can discover vulnerabilities, compromise environments, move lat...
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike are back in the AI trenches, this time unpacking the hype, fear, and practical security implications surrounding Anthropic’s Mythos preview. As the industry reacts to claims around AI-driven vulnerability discovery and exploit generation, the hosts ask a more important question: are we actually ready to fix what we already know is broken? The conversation cuts through the zero-day panic and focuses on the fundamentals that still matter: patching, hardening, reduc...
Send us Fan Mail Ken and Mike are back from the grave to kick off 2026 with a timely debate on the AI panic cycle hitting software and security. They dig into the biggest questions flying around the industry right now: Is AI taking developer and security jobs? Is SaaS dying? Is software engineering being replaced by vibe coding and agents? From maker-checker workflows and token costs to AI-generated bugs, false positives, and attackers using autonomous tooling to move faster, this episode cut...
Send us Fan Mail In this candid and cathartic episode, Ken and Mike unpack the chaos that is Q4 for security professionals. From budget burnouts to end-of-year pentesting sprints, they explore why the final months of the year feel like a perfect storm for stress. Tune in as they share hard-earned lessons, practical advice for maintaining your sanity, and some gentle reminders that not everything needs to ship before Christmas. Whether you’re a tired vendor, an overwhelmed engineer, or just tr...
Send us Fan Mail In this no-punches-pulled return from hiatus, Ken and Mike dig deep into the messy middle of vulnerability management, SLA fatigue, and the illusion of compliance. Are we building secure systems or just passing audits? From legacy cruft to exploitable CVEs, this episode unpacks the real-world pressures of SOC 2, the auditor dance, and whether fixing every “critical” is even feasible. Perfect for practitioners trying to balance the checkbox culture with actual risk reduction,...



