Responsible AI from The AI Forum

In the latest episode of the Responsible AI podcast, we engage in a thought-provoking discussion with Oumou Ly, a senior fellow at UC Berkeley's Center for Long-Term Cybersecurity. Oumou shares her invaluable insights from her time working on President Biden's Executive Order on AI, a landmark initiative aimed at addressing the rapid advancements in artificial intelligence. Her experience highlights the complexities involved in crafting policies that can keep pace with the swift evolution of technology. As Oumou aptly notes, "The pace of regulation just sort of moves much slower than the pace of innovation," underscoring the challenges faced by policymakers in this dynamic field.The conversation delves into the intricacies of integrating "security by design" into programming, a concept that emphasizes the importance of embedding security measures into the development process from the outset. Oumou discusses the hurdles that developers encounter when trying to balance innovation with security, a task that requires a deep understanding of both technical and socio-technical systems. This approach is crucial in mitigating risks and ensuring that AI technologies are developed responsibly and safely, protecting users and society at large.Oumou also sheds light on the ongoing battle against ransomware, a pervasive threat in the digital age. She explores the dilemmas faced by organizations when dealing with ransomware attacks, emphasizing the need for proactive measures and robust cybersecurity practices. Her insights provide a comprehensive overview of the challenges and opportunities in AI regulation and cybersecurity, offering listeners a glimpse into the future of these critical areas. Tune in to the Responsible AI podcast for an enlightening discussion that navigates the complexities of AI policy, security, and innovation.Chapters02:09 The Executive Order on AI: Process and Development07:30 Major Accomplishments of the Executive Order10:02 Cross-Disciplinary Collaboration in AI Policy13:09 Challenges in Legislative Regulation of AI16:19 Incentives and Interests in AI Regulation17:01 Socio-Technical Factors in AI and Cybersecurity Risks19:47 Security by Design in AI Development21:18 Navigating AI Risk Management22:21 Ransomware: Strategies and Metrics24:47 The Ransomware Dilemma: To Pay or Not to Pay?26:36 Secure by Design: A Holistic Approach27:10 Cultivating a Culture of Cybersecurity30:20 Oumou’s work on the Blue Sky Social Network33:08 Investor Influence on Cybersecurity Practices36:37 Accountability in AI: Who's Responsible?38:37 The Importance of Digital Literacy

In the rapidly evolving world of artificial intelligence, Dr. Avijit Ghosh stands as a critical voice, urging a reevaluation of current AI development paths. As a Technical AI Policy Researcher at Hugging Face, Ghosh emphasizes the importance of aligning AI advancements with genuine human needs. "AI development in general, like corporate AI development, is divorced from the needs of real people who want real human progress," he asserts, highlighting the disconnect between corporate goals and societal benefits.Our conversation with Dr. Ghosh delves into the ethical and societal implications of AI, advocating for a shift away from the predominant focus on chatbots and generalized AI models. He argues that the industry's current trajectory often overlooks the potential of AI to address pressing social issues, such as accessibility and scientific discovery. By promoting open-source models and collaborative research, Dr. Ghosh believes that AI can truly democratize technology and empower communities worldwide.Through his research and advocacy, Dr. Ghosh calls for a more inclusive and thoughtful approach to AI development. He envisions a future where AI serves as a tool for enhancing human agency rather than diminishing it. By fostering open dialogue and collaboration, Ghosh aims to bridge the gap between technological innovation and societal progress, ensuring that AI's benefits are shared by all.Highlights:The focus on AGI is misaligned with real human needs: corporate AI development often ignores accessibility and inclusivity.Open-source AI can empower communities and democratize technology.Scientific discovery is hindered by the lack of AI-ready data and infrastructure.Curiosity and reflective learning are essential in education, but AI may hinder them.AI should be viewed as a public good, not just a profit-driven tool.Chapters00:00 AI and Human Agency: A Critical Discussion05:23 The Corporate Model of AI Development08:01 Accessibility and Open Science in AI09:39 Accent Bias and Digital Exclusion in AI14:30 AI Fairness and Its Vulnerabilities18:59 AI for Scientific Discovery: A Social Problem23:22 Cultural Shortcomings of AI25:58 The Impact of AI on Education and Curiosity31:58 Understanding AGI and Its Implications35:19 The Future of AI: A Call for Open Data Sharing

We delve into the intricate relationship between artificial intelligence, history, and society. Featuring Leonard Garfield, Executive Director of the Museum of History and Industry (MOHAI), this episode explores the notion that "history is dangerous," as it can be used to reshape our understanding of reality. Leonard and Alex discuss how Seattle's rich history of innovation, from the resilience shown after the Great Seattle Fire to the rise of tech giants, continues to influence its present and future. Seattle stands as a testament to the power of innovation and community.As we explore these themes, we also consider the role of museums in preserving authenticity amidst rapid technological change. Leonard shares insights on how MOHAI is reimagining its core exhibits to reflect the evolving landscape of AI and innovation. This episode invites listeners to reflect on the lessons of the past and their implications for a responsible future.Highlights:MOHAI's Unique RoleMOHAI serves as a museum about place, community, and innovation, capturing Seattle's rich culture and history through its exhibits and educational programs.Resilience and RebuildingThe story of the Great Seattle Fire is highlighted not just as a historical event, but as a testament to the community's resilience and ability to rebuild and attract global investment.Commitment to TruthMuseums, including MOHAI, have a responsibility to present truth based on scholarship and diverse perspectives, ensuring that history is conveyed accurately and thoughtfully.Chapters01:43 Leonard Garfield's Journey to History and Museums02:54 Understanding MOHAI: A Museum of Community and Innovation04:14 The Role of Innovation in Seattle's History07:01 Lessons from the Great Seattle Fire09:04 Reimagining Exhibits: Engaging with New Technologies10:56 The Significance of MOHAI's Location13:21 Craftsmanship and Authenticity in a Digital Age15:47 Exploring AI: Past Exhibits and Future Implications19:52 The Challenge of Historical Narratives24:18 Education as a Core Mission of MOHAI26:58 The Role of Sports in Community Identity29:44 The Future of Museums in the Age of AI

Dive into an engaging discussion with former Washington State Governor Jay Inslee. Known for his leadership in climate action and clean energy, Inslee shares his insights on the intersection of technology and public policy. He discusses the delicate balance between regulation and innovation, emphasizing the need for a cautious yet proactive approach to new technologies.In this episode, Inslee reflects on his political journey and the pivotal moments that shaped his views on clean energy. He highlights the importance of supporting innovation, particularly from “the little guy,” stating, "90% of innovation comes from somebody who started with $4 in their pocket and a good idea." His commitment to fostering a sustainable future is evident as he discusses the successes and challenges of clean energy initiatives.The conversation also delves into the impact of misinformation and the role of AI in politics. Inslee candidly shares his concerns about the current state of political discourse and the need for more effective communication strategies. He notes, “I actually think we should maybe spend a little less of our time trying to rein in artificial intelligence and be more adept at reining in natural stupidity.” Tune in to gain valuable insights from a leader who has been at the forefront of advocating for a cleaner, more innovative future.HighlightsBalancing Regulation and Innovation: Jay Inslee discusses his approach to technology regulation, emphasizing the need for a cautious yet proactive stance to foster innovation while protecting public interests.Clean Energy Vision: Inslee shares his vision for a sustainable future, highlighting the successes and challenges of clean energy initiatives and the importance of supporting innovation from smaller entities.Misinformation and Polarization: The conversation delves into the challenges posed by misinformation and political polarization, with Inslee advocating for improved communication strategies to counter false narratives.AI's Role in Politics: Inslee expresses his cautious optimism about AI, recognizing its potential to drive innovation while stressing the need for responsible regulation to prevent misuse in political contexts.Personal Reflections: Throughout the episode, Inslee shares personal anecdotes from his political career, offering insights into his experiences and the pivotal moments that shaped his views on technology and public policy.Chapters02:04 Regulatory Approaches to Technology04:43 Supporting Innovation and the Little Guy07:17 The Importance of Immigration in Innovation09:51 Clean Energy Vision and Achievements12:35 Climate Change as a Central Issue15:02 Reflections on the 2020 Presidential Campaign17:44 The Need for Better Communication on Climate Issues21:28 Innovations in Clean Energy Solutions23:09 The Role of Nuclear Energy in the Future24:45 Fusion Energy: A Potential Game Changer26:33 Challenges in Energy Infrastructure28:39 The Politics of Clean Energy29:37 The Impact of Social Media on Politics33:34 Disinformation and Its Consequences34:13 The Role of AI in Political Communication36:54 Reflections on Public Service and Future Engagement

"What Is Intelligence?" This profound question, posed by Blaise Agüera y Arcas in his latest book, serves as the foundation for our exploration in this episode of the Responsible AI podcast. Agüera y Arcas is is a vice president and Fellow at Google, where he is the CTO of Technology & Society and founder of Paradigms of Intelligence.Join us as we delve into the philosophical implications of AI and consciousness, examining how AI challenges our understanding of intelligence and the nature of consciousness. Through engaging dialogue with Blaise, we uncover the ethical considerations of treating AI as moral entities and the role of prediction in AI's societal impact. This episode invites you to reflect on the evolving landscape of AI and its profound implications for the future.Highlights:The importance of understanding intelligence beyond just artificial constructs.The historical context of AI development reveals significant contributions from women in computing.AI's predictive capabilities are central to its functionality and effectiveness.Consciousness may be more about functionality than a specific location in the brain.Kindness in interactions with AI can enhance collaboration and understanding.Chapters01:32 Exploring the Concept of Intelligence05:56 Historical Context of AI and Computing10:57 Biology, Sex, and Intelligence13:50 Alan Turing’s True Contribution to AI16:15 The Brain as a Computer: A Deeper Inquiry18:51 Understanding Consciousness and Functionalism21:52 Hollywood's Portrayal of AI24:50 The Power of Prediction in AI30:03 Hallucinations in AI and Their Implications30:50 The Evolving Role of AI in Information Retrieval33:17 Understanding Agency in AI: Stimulus and Response35:08 The Challenges of Long-Term Task Management in AI37:50 AI and Moral Considerations: Should We Care?40:15 The Apocalyptic Narrative of AI: A Balanced Perspective42:43 The Importance of Kindness in Human-AI Interactions49:43 Dreaming and Consciousness: What Does It Mean for AI?

In this episode of the Responsible AI Podcast, we dive into the world of creativity and technology with Russell Ginns, a prolific author, producer, and inventor who specializes in smart, fun things. Known for his work with Sesame Street and NASA, Russell shares his journey from traditional media to embracing AI's transformative power."You can't beat them, so you got to join them," he advises, highlighting his transformation and his guidance to other creators. Discover how AI is reshaping the creative landscape and why Russell believes that, despite rapid technological advancements, the essence of storytelling and human connection remains vital.Highlights include:AI is transforming the creative landscape, but opportunities exist.Young creatives should embrace new tools and start creating.How the creative process is evolving with technology.Chapters 01:10 Imagination and Change in Technology04:36 Navigating Creative Fields in a Disruptive Era07:57 The Evolution of Children's Literature09:45 The Publishing Process and Market Dynamics12:19 The Enduring Nature of Stories16:14 The Shift from Consumer to Curator19:11 Engagement and the Transformation of Art Forms22:37 The Evolution of Creativity in the Age of AI27:24 The Role of Human Touch in Storytelling31:26 Co-Creation: The New Dynamic Between Creators and Consumers33:12 The Future of Creation: Embracing New Tools37:22 The Enduring Nature of Play in Creative Processes39:54 Navigating Change: The Optimism of Creators42:19 The Value of Human Creativity Amidst Technological Change

“How do we train people to come up with novel things, the things that a computer can't figure out because it integrates multiple disciplines or comes from societal interaction or things that you just can't digitize?” In this episode of the Responsible AI podcast, we speak with Michael Cockrill, CTO of the Altius Institute for Biomedical Sciences and former Washington State CIO.   Michael shares insights on the challenges of data sharing in government, particularly where regulations aren’t keeping up with the pace of technological change; the future of education in an AI-driven world; and the stunning new challenges quantum computing will pose for privacy and security. Bionics, quantum computing, and information as the currency of government: join us on the podcast for a deep dive on the transformative impact of AI on medical research, diagnostics, and government services.Key takeawaysAI can now predict illness, but critical medical data remains undigitized. Government silos are blocking the full potential of AI-driven public services.Bionic enhancement is forcing a new conversation: where does care end and augmentation begin?Quantum computing could upend encryption—Cockrill warns it’s not a distant threat.Chapters01:12 AI's Impact on Medical Research08:04 AI in Diagnostics and Patient Care08:44 Government's Role in AI Implementation12:19 Challenges of Data Sharing in Government15:31 Future Technologies: Bionics and Robotics18:25 Quantum Computing and AI24:44 Education and AI: The Future of Learning28:16 Defining Responsible AI

In this episode of the Responsible AI podcast from The AI Forum, we speak with veteran journalist and advisor Merrill Brown, about how and where journalists can use automation to enhance reporting and the evolving journalistic landscape.Highlights include:Why young journalists need to develop an entrepreneurial set of skills to succeed today.Why 2025 reminds him of 1995 when it comes to emerging technology.How AI can be used for both content creation and verification.The importance of supporting your local news organization.01:23 What Do Young Journalists Need to Know?05:02 It’s 1995 Again06:19 How Should Journalists Use AI?10:35 Automating Content at the Associated Press14:39 Garbage In, Garbage Out16:45 Lessons from AI Experiments at G/O Media21:17 Future Developments in AI and Journalism23:57 Responsible AI in Journalism25:27 National Security and Journalistic Ethics28:33 Stretch Your Imagination; Support Local Journalism

How is artificial intelligence reshaping modern workplaces and what does it mean for the security and privacy of those businesses? In this episode of Responsible AI from The AI Forum, Ted Alben discusses the implications of AI technologies like ChatGPT on business processes, cybersecurity, and the importance of human oversight in AI integration.  We explore how businesses need to prepare for new technology—and where they’re failing. As Ted notes, "ChatGPT represents this shortcut factory where you can circumnavigate your responsibility and find this amazingly quick response to challenges." He emphasizes the need for organizations to curate data effectively, ensure security, and educate users on responsible AI practices. The conversation also touches on the challenges posed byremote work and the evolving landscape of cybersecurity threats, highlighting the critical role of human responsibility in navigating these issues.

What happens when cutting-edge AI meets centuries-old legal principles? In this episode of Responsible AI from the AI Forum, Rebecca Staffel interviews AI Forum founder Alex Alben about large language models’ ability to analyze legal patterns, tackle bias, and predict case outcomes. Explore how AI is reshaping copyright law and courtroom decisions in this thought-provoking discussion.

This week on Responsible AI from the AI Forum, Colby Hawker, a natural language product manager at Google, joins Alex Alben and Patrick Ip to discuss the impact of AI on society and the economy. Colby shares insights on the evolving approach to privacy in the current era compared to Web 2.0, highlighting AI's role as a collaborator rather than a replacement for human work. We explore privacy concerns surrounding AI models and delve into its potential applications in sectors like customer service, healthcare, and education. Colby also addresses emerging challenges in AI, such as code generation and personalized medicine. Through their conversation, they emphasize AI's ability to enhance productivity and knowledge augmentation across industries, offering a glimpse into the transformative power of AI in today's world. For more discussion, news, and thinking about responsible AI, visit our website, The AI Forum [https://theaiforum.org/?utm_src=podcast].

Join Professor William Covington, Director of the Technology Law and Public Policy Clinic at the University of Washington School of Law as he navigates the waters of technology, law, and public policy in AI. Professor Covington and hosts Alex Alben and Patrick Ip discuss the evolving landscape of AI regulation, emphasizing nuanced understanding and proactive safety measures in model deployment. We explore emerging AI applications like the "humane" AI pin, addressing privacy concerns in physical spaces. For more discussion, news, and thinking about responsible AI, visit our website, The AI Forum [https://theaiforum.org/?utm_src=podcast].

Join Responsible AI hosts Patrick Ip and Alex Alben as they sit down with Jennifer Schwab, founder and CEO of ENTITY [https://www.entitymag.com/] Academy, to explore the intersection of education and artificial intelligence.  Jennifer shares her journey from founding ENTITY Academy to adapting its programs for online learning during the pandemic. Dive into the future of education and the potential of AI to revolutionize learning experiences. For more discussion, news, and thinking about responsible AI, visit our website, The AI Forum [https://theaiforum.org/?utm_src=podcast].

Dr. Ashwini Rao, CEO of Eydle [https://www.eydle.com/], a spam protection platform, explores the evolving landscape of cybersecurity and AI, particularly the pressing challenges of social engineering scams and the impact of AI on scam tactics. Listen as Dr. Rao and Responsible AI hosts Patrick Ip and Alex Alben dig into President Biden's recent executive order on AI and highlight the need for resilience in security measures.