Discover Ring of Fire: Doulas Covering Burning Topics
Ring of Fire: Doulas Covering Burning Topics

Ring of Fire: Doulas Covering Burning Topics
Author: Ring of Fire: Doulas Covering Burning Topics
Subscribed: 2Played: 14Subscribe
Share
© Ring of Fire: Doulas Covering Burning Topics
Description
A podcast where Birth Wizard Emmy Howard and Alex Barr Doula and Educator, talk you through the uncomfortable and tough topics involved in birthwork and doula work. Add in some funny memes, silly running jokes, and two doula friends having a blast and you have Ring of Fire! Whether you are brand new, experienced, or just thinking about stepping into doula work this is the place to be!
32 Episodes
Reverse
Doulas React to Birth Memes Pt. 3
Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 8!
In this episode we revisit our most popular season 1 episode and go through some birth memes!
Digressions include: marathon runners, poopy pants, and advocacy (as always!)
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
Doulas in Disneyland: Why Doulas Need to Take Breaks
Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 6!
In this episode we discuss our recent Disneyland vacation, why doulas nand birthworkers are in dire need of a break and the different ways to take vacations as a doula!
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
How to Know You're Meant to Be a Birthworker - Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 5
In this episode, Emmy and Alex discuss the different types of birthwork, the different paths to entry, the pitfalls and the joys of becoming a birthworker!
If you're asking yourself "Should I become a doula?" or "should I become a birthworker?" this episode is for you!
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
Life Before Birthwork (How we ended up as doulas) - Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 4
In this episode, Emmy and Alex discuss their previous lives and how they impacted and led us to our current work. Learn more about us and enjoy us discussing some of the doula traits that were always there!
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
How to Charge What You're Worth
Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 3!
In this episode we talk all about how to charge what you're worth as a doula! We discuss cost breakdowns, avoiding burnout, and taxes.
Digressions include: how to spiritually come to terms with charging for your services, and what Emmy thinks about giving doulas gifts.
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
Two Doulas Decide: Would You Doula that Cartoon Family?
Ring of Fire Season 3 Episode 2!
Welcome to SEASON 3 of Ring of Fire! 
In this episode we made a tier list, ranking some famous cartoon families and discuss would we want to be their doula? We cover: family guy, avatar last airbender, r2d2 and c3po, and more!
Digressions include: could we ethically support villain families?
Chat and hang with us over on our discord: https://discord.gg/qmTaY4bPhR
Get exclusive updates and access to our aftershows! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
How to Get More Doula Clients with Latisa Ratliff
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 12!
In our third episode of our mini series "How to Doula It" we chat with Latisa Ratliff from P.S. Love Mommy about her journey and successes in doula work!
Digressions include: how much education is too much education, Latisa's journey into doula work, and how often doulas actually get to hold babies.
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
2:30 Latisa talks about her journey to doula work
12:00 We talk about mentorship and her experience as a menttee and mentor
22:00 We talk about how we made it through the very beginning part of being a doula
33:00 Latisa tells one of her most interesting birth stories
48:00 Latisa talks about expanding her business and adding new doulas to her team
53:00 Top three tips for new doulas
How to Doula Interviews and Prenatal Appointments 
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 11!
In our second episode of our mini series "How to Doula It" we discuss how to give the best interviews you can, how many prenatal appointments is too many, and how to decide on the right number for you and your clients!
Digressions include: how to separate doula-ing and educating, our origin story, and how to pass on clients that aren't a right fit for you.
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
2:30 The Ring of Fire origin story remembered differently by each of us
10:00 We describe our own experiences with interviews
24:00 Emmy shares her tricks to nailing interviews
36:00 Emmy talks about her approach to prenatals and their structure
51:00 We digress to discuss how Alex separates educating and doula-ing
59:00 Alex shares her prenatal structure
How Can New Doulas Find the Perfect Trainings and Mentorships? 
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 10!
In our first episode of our mini series "How to Doula It" we discuss our opinions on trainings and mentorships, red and gold flags in various trainings, and how to navigate choosing the best ones for you!
Digressions include: its all a digression at this point!
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
0:00 - 20:00 Our "gold flags" for doula trainings
21:00 Emmy talks about her various trainings 
25:00 Alex talks about her trainings
30:00 Talking about other trainings after initial certification
38:00 Finding your niche as a doula
42:00 Is mentorship worth it?
Am I the A**hole: Doula Edition
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 9!
Emmy and Alex bring various pregnancy and doula related Am I the A**hole submissions and discuss who in each story is ultimately the A**hole.
Digressions include: its all a digression at this point!
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
“Trauma Informed Care with Fabliana Burley (@bringthebabe)”  
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 8!
Emmy and Alex sit down with Fabliana Burley, @bringthebabe to discuss her path to birthwork, how to let people know what their rights are in birth, and trauma informed care. 
Digressions include: navigating social media,  imposter syndrome, and how doulas can care for themselves and their own trauma.
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Get to know more about Fabliana!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bringthebabe/?hl=en
Website: https://bringthebabe.com/?v=7516fd43adaa
Affirmation Cards: https://bringthebabe.com/?product=birth-right-affirmation-deck&v=7516fd43adaa
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
2:50 Fabliana talks about her start in birthwork and her experiences around childbirth growing up 
16:00 Many people have doula hearts before they formally step into the work
19:00 Fabliana talks about her realization of the racism that exists in the birth world
21:00 We talk about why we think birth workers turn a blind eye to the treatment of marginalized people 
38:00 Fabliana talks about the creation of her Birth Rights Affirmation Cards
43:00 How do we educate people that they aren’t being treated well in pregnancy, birth, and postpartum?
49:00 We talk to fabliau about how she feels about her social media following 
55:00 We talk about why it’s important to be trauma informed in your own births and in supporting others
1:07:00 Fabliana talks about where to find more information and education about trauma informed care
1:15:00 Fabliana talks about trying to help new doulas navigate trauma informed care and help them care for themselves in doula work
“Doula-ing the Doula with The Doula Darcy!”  
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 7!
Emmy and Alex sit down with The Doula Darcy to talk about marketing yourself as a doula, how Darcy came into doula work after a career in marketing, and how the passion of doula work will find you!
Digressions include: community care, why are so many doulas afraid to be on social media, and more!
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Get to know more about Darcy!
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thedouladarcy/
Facebook Marketing Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thedoulamktggroup/
Doula Village: https://douladarcy.com/my-doula-village
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
1:20 Darcy talks about her journey into doula work
7:30 Why are doulas going into this work without understanding they will ave to run a business?
13:00 Alex talks about why she pursued being a childbirth educator as well as a doula
17:00 Darcy talks about the benefits of social media
24:00 The secret to social media success for doulas
30:00 Collaboration is always better than competition
41:00 How to teach our communities that doulas are important and necessary.
“Breaking Down VBAC: What Doulas Should Know”  
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 6!
Emmy and Alex discuss Emmy's specialty, Vaginal Births After Caesarean and how doulas can support birthers attempting a VBAC.
Digressions include: The origins of VBAC Calculators, and Emmy's personal VBAC story  
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
“Doula Personality Tests and Hogwart's Houses”  Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 5!  
Emmy and I talk about and reveal our Myers-Briggs type, Enneagram number, and Harry Potter houses!   
Digressions include: "The Business of Birth Control" documentary, main character energy, and Alex gets roasted by her enneagram.  
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
“What is the scope of a doula?”  Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 4!  
We talk about what we thought our scopes would be when we first started birthwork versus what we believe they are now!  
Digressions include: Talking trash about large doula organizations, and jokes about MLMS  
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/ 
1:00 Intro the topic “What’s the scope of a doula?”  
2:15 Doula work is born out of ancestral knowledge  
3:30 VBAC Wizard training! And we’re currently offering advertising space, email us for inquiries!  
8:00 What did we think the scope of a doula was when we first started in this work  
10:00 Alex talks about training to be a doula with a birth center rather than a large organization  
18:47 Alex talks about the warring information provided in doula trainings  
25:00 Why is blame placed upon the birther rather than the system causing harm?  
26:27 Why are clients hiring doulas?  
29:00 What if you hire a doula who isn’t going to support you  
30:00 Emmy is hopeful that as time goes on more and more doulas will begin to advocate for their clients  
34:24 Emmy talks about how doulas are not medical providers, yet she sees medical advice being shared by doulas  
42:00 Clients hire doulas for different reasons  
48:00 Emmy talks about how doulas who being outside of advocacy often end up never pursuing it  
49:30 Even with best case outcomes you can be traumatized from witnessing births  
54:00 Birthing Advocacy is one of our favorite training organizations, and who you pick to train from is important   
58:00 We need to be conscious of the people we are paying to become doulas
“Fat & Plus Size Birth”  
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 3!  
We talk about all things fat birth and navigating medical systems as a plus size person.  
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!  
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!  
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it! 
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com 
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/ 
1:50 Alex talks about fat activism 
2:30 Existing in a fat body without pursuing weight loss is automatically activism 
6:30 Who is considered fat? 
7:30 Who's being treated poorly by providers? 
21:51 Is what's being recommended to plus size birthers actually safe? 
28:45 Gestational diabetes and plus size people 
31:00 How can doulas support plus size people? 
32:20 BMI is messed up 
45:39 Checklist to find safe providers for high BMIs 
47:48 Checklist for plus size birthers to help navigate providers
“Homebirths and Doulas with Lyndsay King LM, CPM”
Ring of Fire Season 2 Episode 2!
In the premiere of our second season we chat with Lyndsay King, a CPM located in Phoenix, AZ about doulas and home birth!
Digressions include: diversity in homebirth, geriatric uteruses, and how to reach out to your local midwives
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!
Join us live every Thursday, 7pm MST on Instagram to be a part of the conversation as we are having it!
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
3:30 Lyndsay talks about her journey to becoming a CPM
12:00 The different paths to becoming a CPM
23:00 Advice on how to reach out to midwives as a birthworker
29:00 What does our community need from doulas?
38:00 Is there anything Lyndsay doesn’t like about doulas?
53:00 What can and can’t make you high risk for a home birth
1:01 Lyndsay’s advice to doulas seeking work in home birth settings
“Doula Meme reactions Part 2”
Ring of Fire Episode 12!
In our second meme react episode Alex shares 4 doula and pregnancy themed memes for Emmy to react to!
Digressions include: gestational diabetes, Alex doesn’t know what a meme is, and what constitutes an intervention.
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!
Join us live every Friday, 7pm MST on twitch to be a part of the conversation as we are having it!
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ringoffirepodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
2:00 Alex doesn’t know what a meme is?
5:00 We talk about how we talk about interventions is important
9:30 What’s considered an induction and what’s not?
15:30 Cascade of interventions
22:00 Why and when are doulas essential?
26:00 We talk about the different reasons people are doulas
30:00 Alex talks about the issues she see with the doula industry
38:00 We talk about the controversial takes on Glucola
48:00 We talk about the difference between diabetes and gestational diabetes
55:00 We talk about how scary google can be for pregnant people
1:00:01 Emmy talks about neurodiverse doulas
1:00:08 We end by talking about postpartum doulas and hemorrhoids
“Should Doulas Be Licensed?”
Ring of Fire Episode 11!
Recently doula care has been approved for a pilot program for Tricare members, Alex and Emmy sit down to talk about how they feel about licensing doulas.
Digressions include: reading our listeners thoughts on the topic, what Alex thinks the true role of a doula is, Emmy is a true Hufflepuff, and Alex and Emmy finally disagree on a topic!
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!
Join us live every Friday, 7pm MST on twitch to be a part of the conversation as we are having it!
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ringoffirepodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/
3:30 talking about tricare covering doulas and IBCLCS and details of what they are covering
1040 we read responses from our viewers, and instagram about their feelings about licensing of doulas
14:00 we talk about the “slippery slope” fallacy and how it applies to this idea
17:00 Alex talks about the role of a doula
19:00 Emmy talks about the role of the nuclear family and its effect on the rise in doulas
23:00 Emmy talks about the different professions operating outside of insurance
26:00 Alex talks about the issue she has with he large doula training organizations
32:00 We talk about if licensing would create “better” doulas
38:00 Would doulas running some type of governing board allow for more control
42:00 Alex talks about the history of midwifery being licensed
46:00 Emmy talks about the difference between hospitals in 2020 versus now
49:00 Alex talks about how the advocacy is the most important part of her job as a doula
50:00 We talk about the positive path we see for licensing
53:00 Emmy talks about the similarities between patient advocates and doulas
55:00 We talk about the importance of childbirth education
Ring of Fire Episode 10!
“Superstitions From Beyond the Birth Room”
In this very spooky themed episode Emmy talks about her own birth superstitions and Alex talks about birth superstitions throughout history.
Digressions include: never get a tattoo if you hate talking to people, psychic vampire spray, and we hear from some listeners about their own experiences.
Leave a comment or send us an email if you have thoughts on this topic!
And if you're a birthworker and interested in being a guest on the pod send us an email!
Join us live every Friday, 7pm MST on twitch to be a part of the conversation as we are having it!
Email: ringoffirepodcast@gmail.com
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ringoffirepodcast
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ringoffirepodcast
Meet Alex: https://www.alexbarrdoula.com/
Meet Emmy: https://birthwizard.com/








