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Author: Patrick Gray

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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: Chinese APT crew goes berserk with Exchange 0day Russia hacks Ukraine and USA, India hacks China, China hacks India The NYTimes got something big wrong again (shock horror) CANVAS exploit pack leaks, including their sweet, sweet Spectre exploit Atlantic Council report into offensive capability vendors/contractors Your vCentre gear it probably already on fire: find out why! Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Yubico, the makers of the Yubikey. Yubico Chief Solutions Officer Jerrod Chong will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about “passwordless authentication”. Some organisations have a pretty bad understanding of what passwordless is, while other organisations are running into the mountains to avoid even thinking about it. But with hardware supported WebAuthn becoming pretty much ubiquitous, Jerrod thinks a tipping point is coming. Also, they’ve launched passwordless auth for AzureAD. NOTE: This podcast introduces Jerrod Chong as the CTO of Yubico. He’s actually the Chief Solutions Officer. It was our mistake, apologies! Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
This is a sponsored podcast featuring ExtraHop’s co-founder and CTO Jesse Rothstein. ExtraHop is a Network Detection and Response (NDR) vendor that started out offering network health and monitoring tools before being pulled into the security space by its own customers. Jesse joined host Patrick Gray to talk about the SolarWinds compromise from a Network Detection and Response vendor’s perspective, about cloud security and monitoring, some of ExtraHop’s backstory and more. Enjoy!
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: USA floats new sanctions against Russia TikTok, WeChat get stay of execution Dependency confusion is ugh US indicts Lazarus crypto-thieves France ties Sandworm crew to Centreon intrusion MORE This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Thinkst’s founder Haroon Meer is this week’s sponsor guest and he joins us to have a very Haroon-style conversation. We talk about how security controls and detections often fall over when things happen that take place outside of our assumptions: trojaned software updates, attackers hiding in unconventional places like monitors, things like that. That’s a great conversation. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
Recent attacks by SVR against US targets have mostly been written up under the moniker of the “SolarWinds campaign”. In our view, that’s inaccurate. The defining characteristic of this campaign wasn’t the SolarWinds supply chain stuff, it’s was the abuse of Microsoft cloud services. My understanding of how contemporary cloud services work isn’t actually as good as it should be. And that got me thinking – if my understanding isn’t that great, then there’s probably a lot of other people out there who don’t quite grok this stuff, particularly on the policy side. So, I set out to prepare a primer on Microsoft cloud security. Our guest in this podcast is Dirk-Jan Mollema. He works at Fox-IT in the Netherlands and is one of their core researchers on Azure AD and Active Directory Security. What you’re about to listen to, essentially, is me picking his brain so I can wrap my own head around this stuff. The hope is that some of you will learn along with me!
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: The latest on the attempted Florida water poisoning incident How to abuse Google Sync services for great victory Why Signal’s TLS proxies for Iranians are probably a bad idea OG username brokers targeted by social media legal army Much, much more This week’s sponsor interview is with Dan Guido of Trail of Bits. They’ve released an enterprise version of their iVerify tool. It’s a security tool for iOS (an Android version is in beta) that lets organisations monitor things like patch levels and passcode compliance without actually requiring the installation of MDM profiles. It’s an enterprise mobile security tool for orgs that don’t need or want full MDM. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: Emotet is… gone? Accellion FTAs were owned everywhere, not just in ANZ US courts air-gap sensitive filings in wake of Holiday Bear attacks iOS 14 brings iMessage security improvements Much, much more Proofpoint’s Sherrod DeGrippo is this week’s sponsor guest. She joins the show to talk about Emotet’s demise, Trickbot’s survival, BEC, ransomware and more. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
These Soap Box editions of the show are wholly sponsored, which means everyone you hear in one of these editions, paid to be here. This edition of the show is brought to you by Material Security. Basically what they do is lock up your cloud-based email. They use Google and Microsoft’s APIs to redact sensitive information from your mail spool – or even redact entire messages from your spool, like, say, anything over a month old – and then kick you up to an auth challenge when you want to access that mail. It’s a product that recognises that email isn’t just a vector – often it’s an attacker’s target.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: DPRK offers free 0day to researchers, with a pretty significant catch SonicWall gets owned because it runs SonicWall gear. Big mistake. Chinese trains didn’t stop running because Flash died :( Dominion to sue Rudy Giuliani for $1.3bn over insecurity claims The sudo bug. Lol. This week’s show is brought to you by Cmd Security, the Linux security company. Its focus has traditionally been on restricting the type of bash commands users can enter. It’s like a control plane for Linux systems. But some of its customers manage their Linux endpoints through different, non-bash entry points. So they’ve added some features to their product to deal with that, which has also resulted in them having an IDR capability. It’s all pretty sensible stuff though, and Cmd co-founder and CEO Jake King will be along to talk us through all of that. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Dmitri Alperovitch, Sherrod DeGrippo and Joe Slowik join host Patrick Gray to talk through the week’s news: MalwareBytes the latest victim in the increasingly poorly-named “SolarWinds campaign” FireEye issues helpful guidance, tools, to help orgs detect “golden SAML” and related techniques Rob Joyce, Anne Neuberger, Michael Sulmeyer all get promoted! Wooo! Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Airlock Digital. They make what we’re calling an execution control platform. Its central feature is easy-to-use and hard-to-bypass allowlisting. It’s a bunch of sensible and useable controls packaged up into a 7Mb. It slices, it dices, it slays lolbins and user powershell rights, and it comes in a beautiful suede pouch! It’s the endpoint protection you get when it’s built by practitioners in concert with people who actually understand windows internals. That’s right! Patrick is drinking the Kool-Aid on this one! Airlock founders Dave Cottingham and Daniel Schell join in this week’s sponsor interview to talk through allow-listings second wave of popularity. Links to everything are below!
Joe Slowik and Katie Nickels are guest co-hosts in this week’s edition of the show. They join Patrick Gray to talk about: Mimecast having some stolen certificate, errr, “problems” The confusing reports about JetBrains Analysis of the malware used in the SolarWinds campaign Australian man arrested in Germany and charged with running DarkMarket The Great Deplatforming of 2021 This week’s show is brought to you by Gigamon. If you’re a Gigamon shop you should really take a look at their ThreatInsight platform, that’s a no brainer. Even if you’re not, they’re real players in the network detection and response space. Joining us in this week’s sponsor interview is Jason Tesarz, a senior product manager for Gigamon ThreatInsight. He joined the show to talk about a few things, like how these days the NDR vendors are competing more around their workflows than trying to be the most comprehensive in detection. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick, Katie or Joe on Twitter if that’s your thing.
These Soap Box editions of the show are wholly sponsored. If that’s not your thing and you’re looking for the weekly news edition of the show, just scroll one show back in your feed. This soap box edition is brought to you by AttackIQ. They make a Breach and Attack Simulation platform that’s designed to test the effectiveness of your security controls by simulating bad things in your environment. Carl Wright and Jonathan Reiber are joining us in this edition of the show. These days he’s AttackIQ’s senior director of cybersecurity and strategy but he previously served as a former Chief Strategy Officer for Cyber Policy in the Office of the Secretary of Defense. They joined the show to talk through their work in mapping NIST 800-53 to the MITRE ATT&CK framework. Enjoy!
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray talks to Joe Slowik and Dmitri Alperovitch about the APT campaign that impacted the US government and FireEye via SolarWinds’ supply chain. Alex Stamos also joins the show to chime in more generally on supply chain interference before discussing some other news, like: Apple losing (most of) its case against Corellium Assange won’t be extradited… yet Adobe has finally killed Flash, and killed it good This week’s show is brought to you by Signal Sciences. In this week’s sponsor interview we’ll be talking to a Signal Sciences customer, Doug DePerry. He heads product security at the Gemini cryptocurrency exchange. We’ll be talking to him about what that’s like because those sort of outfits tend to attract decent attackers. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: FireEye’s Very Bad Week Russian bears all up in your VMwares Chris Krebs sues Trump campaign Foxconn ransomware So much more Proofpoint’s Ryan Kalember is this week’s sponsor guest. He joins the show to talk about their rather different approach to DLP and insider threat detection. You may have noticed we don’t really talk about DLP a whole bunch on this show because it’s, well, really boring. But Proofpoint actually has an interesting approach to the problem that’s different enough to be interesting, so do stick around for that. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
Soap Box podcasts like this one are wholly sponsored. This edition of the Soap Box is brought to you by VMRay. They make a virtualised sandbox that initially found a market with DFIR professionals, but these days is being used for all sorts of things. VMRay’s cofounders – CEO Carsten Willems and CTO Ralf Hund – joined host Patrick Gray to talk through the history of the sandbox tech arms race.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including: ORIGINAL: Ransomware insurance payouts are looking pretty unsustainable Trump lawyer calls for Chris Krebs’ execution Hunger relief charity loses $1m to BEC Supreme court weighs CFAA Much, much more! This week’s sponsor interview is with Marc Rogers, Okta’s Executive Director of Cybersecurity. Marc is also heavily involved with the CTI League, a group of infosec professionals who banded together early this year to try to do some good. They’re cyber do gooders! They’ve chalked up some wins and helped out a bunch of organisations, and in the process Marc and his compadres have also been well positioned to observe changes in the ransomware landscape. He joins us in this week’s sponsor interview to talk through that. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Patrick and Mark Piper discuss the week’s security news, including: UK unveils Cyber Force US passes surprisingly sane IoT security law Symantec drops some APT10 research MobileIron bugs getting a decent workout courtesy of state-backed attackers Much, much more… This week’s show is brought to you by ExtraHop Networks. Its VP of Security, Matt Cauthorn, joins the show this week to talk about how we might fare – technology wise – as COVID-19 cases spiral out of control in some parts of the world. With most of the heavy lifting on accelerated cloud adoption and work-from-home already done, Matt thinks the IT side of things is much better prepared for a second major pandemic-induced disruption than it was back in March. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Pipes on Twitter if that’s your thing.
This is not an edition of the weekly news show, scroll back one episode in your podcast feed if you’re looking for that. Rhis is a wholly sponsored podcast brought to you by Bugcrowd. Bugcrowd’s CEO Ashish Gupta joins us in this edition of the Soap Box. He’s been the CEO over there for about three years, taking the reins from our friend Casey Ellis who moved into the CTO position. As you’re about to hear, the bug bounty companies have moved on from the days when they just provided the simple service of running bug bounty competitions for their clients. What’s emerging is a much more nuanced product mix designed to extract as much usefulness as possible out of the testers registered on their platforms.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: CISA director Chris Krebs fired Trump ramps up his disinformation campaign TikTok ban stalls BlackBerry discovers new hacker-for-hire crew DNS cache poisoning is back. But do we really care? Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Thinkst’s founder Haroon Meer will be along in this week’s show to talk a bit about security product design. Canary has been remarkably restrained over the years. Instead of trying to use their success as a platform to launch a million other products, they’ve spent more time really working on design and usability. He’ll join us to talk through all of that. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: Zoom settles with FTC over misleading E2EE claim Some poor sod had to give up $1bn in Bitcoin Solaris SSH 0day? Let’s party like it’s 1999 Samy Kamkar’s latest trick: NAT Slipstreaming Australia’s hardcore critical infrastructure protection bill Much, much more This week’s show is brought to you by Remediant. Company co-founder Paul Lanzi joins the show in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about how they’ve been helping companies recover from ransomware attacks. Maybe listen to this one. You know. Just in case you find yourself in that situation one day? Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including: “Proud Boys” email campaign attributed to Iran in record time Sanctions for everyone! US doxes more adversary TTPs Katie Nickels and Chris Krebs join the show This week’s show is brought to you by attack simulation platform company AttackIQ. Carl Wright from AttackIQ joins us this week to talk about the distinct possibility that large organisations are going to start slashing their security budgets in response to the changing economy. Links to everything that we discussed are below and you can follow Patrick or Adam on Twitter if that’s your thing.
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