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Author: Patrick Gray

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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news with special guest Rob Joyce, a Former Special Assistant to the US President and Director of Cybersecurity for NSA. They talk through: A realistic bluetooth-proximity phishing attack against Passkeys A very patient ransomware actor encrypts an entire enterprise with a puny linux webcam processor The ESP32 backdoor that is neither a door nor at the back The X DDoS that Elon said was Ukraine is claimed by pro-Palestinian hacktivists Years later, LastPass hackers are still emptying crypto-wallets …and it turns out North Korea nailed {Safe}Wallet with a malicious docker image. Nice! Rob Joyce recently testified to the US House Select Committee on the Chinese Communist Party, and he explains why DOGE kicking probationary employees to the curb is “devastating” for the national security staff pipeline. This week’s episode is sponsored by SpecterOps, makers of the BloodHound identity attack path mapping tool. Chief Product Officer Justin Kohler and Principal Security Researcher Lee Chagolla-Christensen discuss their pragmatic approach to disabling NTLM authentication in Active Directory using BloodHound’s insight. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: Did the US decide to stop caring about Russian cyber, or not? Adam stans hard for North Korea’s massive ByBit crypto-theft Cellebrite firing Serbia is an example of the system working Starlink keeps scam compounds in Myanmar running Biggest DDoS botnet yet pushes over 6Tbps This week’s episode is sponsored by network visibility company Corelight. Vincent Stoffer, field CTO at Corelight joins to talk through where eyes on your network can spot attackers like Salt and Volt Typhoon. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news: North Korea pulls off a 1.5 billion dollar crypto heist Apple pulls Advanced Data Protection from the UK Black Basta ransomware gang’s internal chats leak Russians snoop on Signal with QR codes And Myanmar ships thousands of freed scam compound workers to Thailand Regular guest Lina Lau joins to discuss her work reading Chinese incident response reports on WeChat, and how that has people thinking that … she outed the NSA? This week’s episode is sponsored by Airlock Digital, and allow-listing tragics Daniel Schell and David Cottingham are along with an amusing tale of using Windows’ own allow-listing software to block EDR from loading. This episode is also available on Youtube.
In this episode of the Wide World of Cyber podcast Risky Business host Patrick Gray chats with SentinelOne’s Chris Krebs and Alex Stamos about AI, DeepSeek, and regulation. From its bad transport security to its Chinese ownership and the economic implications of China “entering the chat”, everyone’s freaking out over this new model. But should they be? Pat, Alex and Chris dissect the model’s significance, the politics of it all and how AI regulation in Europe, the US and China will shape the future of LLMs. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Australian spooks scrubbed Medibank data off Zservers bulletproof hosting Why device code phishing is the latest trick in confusing poor users about cloud authentication Cloudflare gets blocked in Spain, but only on weekends and because of… football? Palo Alto has yet another dumb bug Adam gushes about Qualys’ latest OpenSSH vulns Enterprise browser maker Island is this week’s sponsor and Chief Customer Officer Bradon Rogers joins the show to talk about how the adoption of AI everywhere is causing headaches. This episode is also available on Youtube.
In this SoapBox edition of the show Patrick Gray chats to Fletcher Heisler, the CEO of open-source identity provider Authentik. The whole idea of Authentik is you can take control of an essential IT and security function: identity. Because Authentik is open source it’s extremely flexible, and if you’re running it yourself, you get to decide where your IDP should sit in your architecture. You can run it on prem if you’re an emergency call centre or you’re operating an airgapped network, or you can spin it up in your cloud environment if you’re a typical enterprise. Fletcher talks through the reasons Authentik users are decoupling themselves from the major SaaS Identity Providers, and the flexibility that comes from being able to assemble exactly what you need. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Musk’s DOGE kid has a history with The Com Paragon fires Italy as a spyware customer Thailand cuts power to scam compounds… … and arrests Phobos/8Base Russian cybercrims The CyberCX DFIR report shows non-U2F MFA is well and truly over And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Dropzone.AI. They make an AI SOC analysis platform that relieves your analysts of the necessary but tedious work, so they can focus on the value of human insight. Dropzone’s founder and CEO Edward Wu joins to talk about how they approach the problem. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: DeepSeek leaves an unauthed database on the internet Russia hacked UK prime minister’s personal mail Australia sanctions a Telegram group… which is more sensible than it sounds Medical device backdoor turns out to be just poorly thought out upgrade feature Google abuses weak hashing to patch AMD CPU microcode And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by email security boffins Sublime. Their co-founder and CEO Josh Kamdjou joins to talk about how attackers’ abuse of legitimate services like Docusign is a challenge for email security vendors. This episode is also available on Youtube.
Coming to you from the same room in Risky Business headquarters Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news. They talk through: Sonicwall firewalls hand out remote code exec like candy Mastercard make a slapstick-grade mistake with their DNS The data breach at PowerSchool and other niche SaaS providers Academic research proposes taking down Europe’s power grid Apple CPUs get a new speculative execution side channel And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Push Security, who make an identity security product that runs inside browsers. Luke Jennings joins to discuss some of the pitfalls of federated authentication, like attackers using unexpected identity providers to log in to your apps. This episode is also available on Youtube.
Risky Business returns for its 19th year! Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news and there is a whole bunch of it. They discuss: The incoming Trump administration guts the CSRB Biden’s last cyber Executive Order has sensible things in it China’s breach of the US Treasury gets our reluctant admiration Ross Ulbricht - the Dread Pirate Roberts of Silk Road fame - gets his Trump pardon New year, same shameful comedy Forti- and Ivanti- bugs US soldier behind the Snowflake hacks faces charges after a solid Krebs-ing And much, much (much! after a month off) more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Sandfly Security, who make a Linux EDR solution. Founder Craig Rowland joins to talk about how the Linux ecosystem struggles with its lack of standardised approaches to detection and response. If you’ve got a telco full of unix, and people are asking how much Salt Typhoon you’ve got in there… Sandfly’s tools are probably what you’re looking for. If you like your Business like us… - Risky - then we’re hiring! We’re looking for someone to help with audio and video production for our work, manage our socials, and if you’re also into the Cybers… even better. Position is remote, with a preference for timezones amenable to Australia/NZ. Drop us a line: editorial at risky.biz. This episode is also available on Youtube.
In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the show Patrick Gray talks to Island CEO Michael Fey about some of the cool tricks in the Island enterprise browser. You can use it to tick off so many compliance boxes, and not just cybersecurity boxes. This is largely a conversation about compliance, but it’s actually interesting and fun. These are words we never thought we’d type! You can find Island at https://island.io/ This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The SEC’s cyber incident reporting isn’t very exciting after all China Telecom on the way to being thrown out of the US The NSA/Cybercom might get two separate hats The Cl0p ransomware crew are back and taking responsibility for the Cleo hacks (Yet another) File upload bug in Struts makes Java admins weep And much, much more. This episode is sponsored by SpecterOps, who run a pretty top notch offsec/pentest team when they’re not busy making the Bloodhound Enterprise identity attack path enumeration software. SpecterOps’ Robby Winchester joins to talk about how pentest has changed, and how their customers get value from their testing. This episode is also available Youtube.
In this edition of the Wild World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray sits down with SentinelOne’s Chief Intelligence and Public Policy Officer Chris Krebs to talk all about Chinese cyber operations. They look at the Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon campaigns, the last 20 years of Chinese operations, and the evolution of the cyber roles of China’s Ministry of State Security and People’s Liberation Army. It’s a very dense hour of conversation! This podcast was recorded in front of an audience at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Sydney. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Cleo file transfer products have a remote code exec, here we go again! Snowflake phases out password-based auth Chinese Sophos-exploit-dev company gets sanctioned Romania’s election gets rolled back after Tiktok changed the outcome AMD’s encrypted VM tech bamboozled by RAM with one extra address bit Some cool OpenWRT research And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Thinkst, who love sneaky canary token traps. Jacob Torrey previews an upcoming Blackhat talk filled with interesting operating system tricks you can use to trigger canaries in your environment. You wont believe the third trick! Attackers hate him! This episode is also available on Youtube.
In this interview Patrick Gray talks to Yubico’s COO and President Jerrod Chong about a new Yubikey feature: pre-registration. You can now ship pre-registered Yubikeys to your staff so you don’t need to rely on your staff to enrol them. They’ve achieved this with really slick Okta and Entra ID integrations. Jerrod also talks about a recent trip to Singapore and concerns he has about the cybersecurity of critical infrastructure in the energy sector.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The FTC decides its time to take another look at Microsoft Exxon’s opponents targeted by hackers Russian hackers keep getting sentenced and it confuses us The Feds recommend Signal, because throwing hackers out of telcos ain’t gonna happen A South Korean set-top-box manufacturer shipped a DDoS client for corpo-combat And much, much more. This week’s sponsor interview with Vijit Nair from Corelight. We talk to him about doing detection in cloud environments, and how the varied nature of cloud systems makes the old ways - network monitoring - useful in new and interesting ways. If you’re in Sydney, Pat is recording a live episode of the Wide World of Cyber with Chris Krebs on 5 December. There might still be tickets left! This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: A ransomware attack has crippled US supply chain software provider Blue Yonder Russian spies hack nearby wifi to get to their targets, but that doesn’t seem surprising? Salt Typhoon’s attacks on telcos are hard to solve and big on impact China’s surveillance state workers sell their access at home Palo Alto is bad and should feel bad And much, much more. In this week’s sponsor interview Patrick Gray chats with Matt Muller from Tines about Gartner’s “spicy take” that the SOAR category is dead. SOAR is dead! Long live SOAR! This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Microsoft introduces some sensible sounding post-Crowdstrike changes Palo Alto patches hella-stupid bugs in its firewall management webapp CISA head Jen Easterly to depart as Trump arrives AI grandma tarpits phone scammers in family-tech-support hell Academic research supports your gut-reaction; phishing training doesn’t work And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Greynoise. The always excitable Andrew Morris joins to remind us that the edge-device vulnerabilities Pat and Adam complain about on the show are in fact actually even worse than we make them out to be. Andrew also tells us about a zero-day Greynoise’ AI system truffle-pigged out of their data set. This episode is also available on Youtube.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Apple frustrates law enforcement with iOS auto-reboot CISA says most KEV vulnerabilities in 2023 were first used as zero days Russians roll incident response on some sweet Linux spookware Regular users can create mailboxes in M365? Tor tracks down the source of its joe-job abuse complaints And much, much more. This week’s feature guest is former FBI agent Chris Tarbell, who arrested Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht way back in 2013. As suggestions swirl that an incoming Trump administration might release Ulbricht, Chris talks about the reality of the Dread Pirate Roberts. This episode is sponsored by software supply chain security firm Socket.dev. Founder Feross Aboukhadijeh thinks that we need a CVE-like catalogue for supply-chain attacks, and he makes a solid argument. The show is also available on Youtube.
In this edition of the Risky Business Soap Box we’re talking all about email security with Sublime Security co-founder Josh Kamdjou. Email security is one of the oldest product categories in security, but as you’ll hear, Josh thinks the incumbents are just doing it wrong. He joins Risky Business host Patrick Gray for this interview about Sublime’s origin story and its new approach to email security.
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