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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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1The Risky Biz main show returns from a break to the traditional internet-melting mess that happens whenever Patrick Gray takes a holiday. Pat and Adam Boileau talk through the week’s security news, including:
Oh Crowdstrike, no, oh no, honey, no
AT&T stored call records on Snowflake and you’ll never guess what happened next
Squarespace buys Google Domains and makes a hash of it
Some but not all of the SECs case against Solarwinds gets thrown out
Pity the incident responders digging through a terabyte of Disney Slack dumps
Internet Explorer rises from the grave, and it wants SHELLS RAAAAARGH SSHHEEELLLS
And much, much more.
This week’s show is brought to you by Sublime Security, a flexible and modern email security platform. If you’re sick of using a black box email security solution, Sublime is a terrific option for you.
This Soap Box edition of the show is with Mike Wiacek, the CEO and Founder of Stairwell.
Stairwell is a platform that creates something similar to an NDR, but for file analysis instead of network traffic. The idea is you get a copy of every unique file in your environment to the Stairwell platform, via a file forwarding agent. You get an inventory that lists where these files exist in your environment, at what times, and from there you can start doing analysis.
If you find a dodgy file you can do all the usual malware analysis type stuff, but you can also do things like immediately find out where else that file is in your organisation, or even where else it was. From there you can identify other files that are similar – variants of those files – and search for those. And you can unpack all this very, very quickly.
This is the type of tool that EDR companies use internally to do threat hunting, but it’s just for you and your org – you can drive it. And as you’ll hear, the idea of a transparent, customisable and programmable security stack is something that’s on-trend at the moment. Mike lays out the case that doing this sort of file analysis in your organisation makes a whole lot of sense.
In this podcast Alex Stamos, Chris Krebs and Patrick Gray discuss the relationship between cybercrime and the state, which is often more complicated than it should be.
While the US Government and its allies fight the scourge of ransomware, other governments are using it to either raise revenue or irritate their foes. North Korea sees ransomware as a money spinner, while the Kremlin enjoys poking the west in the eye with it.
Join us for a breakdown of the relationships between governments who should know better and the worst types of people on the planet.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:
Widely used polyfill javascript gets hijacked by its new owners
MacOS supply chain disaster bullet dodged
That OpenSSH remote code exec OH MY <3
Entrust gets its CA business kicked to the kerb by Google
South Korean telco intentionally viruses 600k customers
Microsoft continues to deeply underwhelm
And much, much more.
This week’s episode is sponsored by Greynoise. Founder Andrew Morris joins to talk about ways to track attackers across NAT and VPNs, as well as how you can join in the fun of running an internet-scale honeypot network.
This is a sponsored Soap Box edition of the Risky Business podcast.
Abhishek Agrawal is the CEO and co-founder of Material Security, an email security company that locks down cloud email archives. Attackers have been raiding mailspools since hacking has existed, and with those mailspools now in the cloud with services like o365 and Google Workspace, guess where the attackers are going?
Material built a product that helps you lock up your email data, to archive and redact sensitive information. The idea is to really just limit what an attacker can do with email data if they pop an account.
Abhishek joined me to talk about a few things, like how non phishing resistant MFA is basically dead, how email content is very useful to security programs, and about how the gen AI won’t really change much on the defensive control side.
On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news, including:
Julian Assange finally cuts a deal, pleads guilty, and goes free
USA to ban Kaspersky - even updates
Car dealer SaaS provider CDK contemplates paying a ransom
Intolerable healthcare ransomware attacks continue
We revisit Windows proximity bugs via wifi and bluetooth
And much, much more.
This week’s episode is sponsored by enterprise browser maker Island. Crowdstrike co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch is an investor in Island, and joins on its behalf to discuss why an enterprise browser is really starting to make sense.
On this week’s retreat special, the entire Risky Business team is together in a tropical paradise for the first time. The team takes a break from the infinity pool to discuss the week’s security news:
Microsoft recalls Recall, but why did it have to be such a mess
And a Windows kernel wifi code-exec, really?
Passkeys and identity are hard
Scattered Spider bigwig arrested in Spain
The pentagon runs a deeply flawed info-op
Is it time E2E crypto nerds accept their place in the world?
And much, much more.
This week’s show is brought to you by Corelight… Corelight’s CEO Brian Dye will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to make a really compelling case for something that shouldn’t exist… which is NDR in cloud environments.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau are joined by long-time NSA boffin Rob Joyce. Now Rob’s left the government service, he’s hobnobbing with us pundits, talking through the week’s news:
Apple announces a big leap for confidential cloud computing into the mass market
While at the same time, letting you just mosey around your iPhone from your Mac
Mandiant reports in about the Snowflake breach
Moody’s say credit ratings might consider cyber incidents
Microsoft fixes an Azure flaw with a… “comprehensive documentation update”
And much, much more.
This week’s show is sponsored by Yubico, maker of the Yubikey hardware authentication token. Jerrod Chong, Yubico’s COO and President joins to talk about the challenges of the passkey and hardware authenticator ecosystem.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Mark Piper discuss the week’s security news, including:
What on earth happened at Snowflake?
A look at operation Endgame
Check Point’s hilarious adventures with dot dot slash
Report says the FTC is looking at Microsoft’s security product bundling
More ransomware hits Russia
Much, much more
404 Media co-founder Joseph Cox is this week’s feature guest. He joins us to talk about his new book, Dark Wire, which is all about the FBI’s Anom sting.
This week’s show is brought to you by Resourcely. If your Terraform is a mess or your CSPM dashboards are lighting up with insane and stupid things, you should check out Resourcely. Its founder and CEO Travis McPeak will be along in this week’s sponsor interview to talk about all things Terraform.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Russian delivery company gets ransomware-wiper’d
A supply-chain attack targets video software used in US courts
Checkpoint firewalls get hacked, details as clear as mud
Microsoft Recall delights hackers
Aussie telco Optus gets told its IR report isn’t legal advice
Cyber insurer says you’re 5x more likely to get rekt if you have a Cisco ASA
And much, much more.
This week’s episode is sponsored by Kroll Cyber. Alex Cowperthwaite, Kroll’s technical director research and development for offence joins to talk about how his team attacks AI models, in ways both classic and new.
This week’s episode was recorded in front of a live audience at AusCERT’s 2024 conference. Pat and Adam talked through:
Google starts using security as a marketing tool against Microsoft, along with steep discounts
Microsoft announces a creepy desktop recording AI
UK govt proposes ransom payment controls
Arizona woman runs a laptop farm for North Korea
Julian Assange just keeps on with his malarky
And much, much more
This week’s episode is sponsored by Tines. Its CEO Eoin Hinchy joins the show to talk about how AI can be genuinely useful in automation.
In this podcast SentinelOne’s Chief Trust officer Alex Stamos and its Chief Intelligence and Public Policy Officer Chris Krebs join Patrick Gray to talk all about AI.
It’s been a year and a half since ChatGPT landed and freaked everyone out. Since then, AI has really entrenched itself as the next big thing. It’s popping up everywhere, and the use cases for cybersecurity are starting to come into focus.
Threat actors and defenders are using this stuff already, but it’s early days and as you’ll hear, things are really going to change, and fast.
This week Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau along special guest Lina Lau discuss the week’s news, including:
The ongoing Ascension healthcare disruption, and
Whether its reasonable for healthcare orgs to be pushing back
Platforming cybercriminals for interviews
Own the libs by… not using E2EE messaging?
CISA’s secure by design, we want to believe!
The $64billion scale of indusrialised fraud
And much, much more.
This week’s sponsor is network discovery specialist, Run Zero. Director of research Rob King joins to talk about the weird and wonderful delights in their new Research Report.
Patrick dials in from RSA in San Francisco to discuss the week’s security news with Adam, including:
The west doxxes LockbitSupp, who must now hide his hundred million dollars
Revil hacker behind Kasaya breach gets 14 years
Microsoft makes some positive sounding* noises on security
A fun flaw in nearly all VPN clients
Gitlab admins continue their never-ending incident response
And much, much more.
This week’s sponsor is Stairwell. Long time infosec researcher Silas Cutler joins us to talk through his adventures in attacker C2 systems, and how this feeds into Stairwell’s data.
* we’re still sceptical they’ll get it right, but they do at least seem to realise how deep the doo-doo they’re in is… Pat speculates they have … tentacles, and a regulatory-threat-gland.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Microsoft reassures* us that they take security very seriously*
Cisco ASA firewalls get sneakily backdoored, but no one’s quite sure how
Change Healthcare was 1FA Citrix all along
The FTC, FCC and other government sticks get waved at tech
Lizard Squad Finn who hacked the Vastaamo therapy chain gets sentenced
And much, much more.
This week’s sponsor is Zero Networks, who make a network micro-segmentation product that is actually usable. Zero Networks CEO Benny Lakunishok joins us to talk through why firewalling everything everywhere is finally workable.
* You’ll forgive us for being… a tad sceptical.
In this edition of Snake Oilers we’ll be hearing from:
Push Security: A browser plugin-based security company that combats identity-based attacks. (Much more compelling that it sounds in this description.)
Knocknoc: The tool Risky Business uses to protect our own applications and services. (Restrict network/port access to users who are authenticated via SSO.)
iVerify: Mobile security and threat hunting for iOS and Android. (Caught Pegasus in the wild!)
In this special edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with former Facebook CSO Alex Stamos and founding CISA director Chris Krebs about sovereignty and technology.
China and Russia are doing their level best to yeet American tech from their supply chains – hardware, software and cloud services. They’ll be rebuilding these supply chains – for government systems, at least – from components that they have complete visibility into, and control over.
Meanwhile, America’s government faces different supply chain challenges. It has a supply chain that won’t be weaponised against it by its adversaries, but it lacks the same sort of visibility and control that its adversaries will eventually achieve over their supply chains. So where does this leave the west? Where does it leave China and Russia?
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Palo Alto’s firewalls have a ../ bad day
Sisense’s bucket full of creds gets kicked over
United Healthcare draws the ire of congress
FISA 702 reauthorisation finally moves forward
Apple warns about “mercenary exploitation” but what’s the India link?
And much, much, more
This week’s sponsor is Panther, a platform that does detection as code on massive amounts of data. Panther’s founder Jack Naglieri is this week’s sponsor guest, and we spoke with him about some common detection-as-code approaches.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Ransomware: down but not out
Zero day prices on the rise…
… and what it means for enterprise software
Geopolitical conflict comes to computers in Palau
Ukraine cyber chief Illia Vitiuk suspended
More x86 microarchitectural bad times
And much much more
Proofpoint’s chief strategy officer Ryan Kalember is this week’s sponsor guest. He takes aim at some recent vendor trends, like security companies describing themselves as “platforms”.
In this edition of Snake Oilers you’ll hear pitches from three companies:
Kodex: Makes a platform companies can use to interact with law enforcement (Solves the law enforcement impersonator problem, among others.)
ClearVector: Cloud security startup from former FireEye/Mandiant SVP/CTO John Laliberte
Censys: Scans the entire internet, identifies assets you didn’t know were yours, helps you track attacker infrastructure like C2
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