Risky Business

Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.

Risky Biz Soap Box: Cool compliance tricks with the Island enterprise browser

In this sponsored Soap Box edition of the show Patrick Gray talks to Island CEO Michael Fey about some of the cool tricks in the Island enterprise browser. You can use it to tick off so many compliance boxes, and not just cybersecurity boxes. This is largely a conversation about compliance, but it’s actually interesting and fun. These are words we never thought we’d type! You can find Island at https://island.io/ This episode is also available on Youtube.

12-20
26:40

Risky Business #775 -- Cl0p is back, SEC hack disclosures disappoint

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The SEC’s cyber incident reporting isn’t very exciting after all China Telecom on the way to being thrown out of the US The NSA/Cybercom might get two separate hats The Cl0p ransomware crew are back and taking responsibility for the Cleo hacks (Yet another) File upload bug in Struts makes Java admins weep And much, much more. This episode is sponsored by SpecterOps, who run a pretty top notch offsec/pentest team when they’re not busy making the Bloodhound Enterprise identity attack path enumeration software. SpecterOps’ Robby Winchester joins to talk about how pentest has changed, and how their customers get value from their testing. This episode is also available Youtube.

12-18
01:01:06

Wide World of Cyber: SentinelOne's Chris Krebs on Chinese cyber operations

In this edition of the Wild World of Cyber podcast Patrick Gray sits down with SentinelOne’s Chief Intelligence and Public Policy Officer Chris Krebs to talk all about Chinese cyber operations. They look at the Salt Typhoon and Volt Typhoon campaigns, the last 20 years of Chinese operations, and the evolution of the cyber roles of China’s Ministry of State Security and People’s Liberation Army. It’s a very dense hour of conversation! This podcast was recorded in front of an audience at the Museum of Contemporary Art in Sydney. This episode is also available on Youtube.

12-13
50:04

Risky Business #774 -- Cleo file transfer appliances under widespread attack

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Cleo file transfer products have a remote code exec, here we go again! Snowflake phases out password-based auth Chinese Sophos-exploit-dev company gets sanctioned Romania’s election gets rolled back after Tiktok changed the outcome AMD’s encrypted VM tech bamboozled by RAM with one extra address bit Some cool OpenWRT research And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Thinkst, who love sneaky canary token traps. Jacob Torrey previews an upcoming Blackhat talk filled with interesting operating system tricks you can use to trigger canaries in your environment. You wont believe the third trick! Attackers hate him! This episode is also available on Youtube.

12-11
01:02:28

Risky Biz Soapbox: Enterprise Yubikeys can now be pre-registered

In this interview Patrick Gray talks to Yubico’s COO and President Jerrod Chong about a new Yubikey feature: pre-registration. You can now ship pre-registered Yubikeys to your staff so you don’t need to rely on your staff to enrol them. They’ve achieved this with really slick Okta and Entra ID integrations. Jerrod also talks about a recent trip to Singapore and concerns he has about the cybersecurity of critical infrastructure in the energy sector.

12-08
29:56

Risky Business #773 -- Cybercriminals are dropping like flies in Russia

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: The FTC decides its time to take another look at Microsoft Exxon’s opponents targeted by hackers Russian hackers keep getting sentenced and it confuses us The Feds recommend Signal, because throwing hackers out of telcos ain’t gonna happen A South Korean set-top-box manufacturer shipped a DDoS client for corpo-combat And much, much more. This week’s sponsor interview with Vijit Nair from Corelight. We talk to him about doing detection in cloud environments, and how the varied nature of cloud systems makes the old ways - network monitoring - useful in new and interesting ways. If you’re in Sydney, Pat is recording a live episode of the Wide World of Cyber with Chris Krebs on 5 December. There might still be tickets left! This episode is also available on Youtube.

12-04
57:02

Risky Business #772 -- Salt Typhoon is truly a national security disaster

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: A ransomware attack has crippled US supply chain software provider Blue Yonder Russian spies hack nearby wifi to get to their targets, but that doesn’t seem surprising? Salt Typhoon’s attacks on telcos are hard to solve and big on impact China’s surveillance state workers sell their access at home Palo Alto is bad and should feel bad And much, much more. In this week’s sponsor interview Patrick Gray chats with Matt Muller from Tines about Gartner’s “spicy take” that the SOAR category is dead. SOAR is dead! Long live SOAR! This episode is also available on Youtube.

11-27
01:01:05

Risky Business #771 -- Palo Alto's firewall 0days are very, very stupid

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Microsoft introduces some sensible sounding post-Crowdstrike changes Palo Alto patches hella-stupid bugs in its firewall management webapp CISA head Jen Easterly to depart as Trump arrives AI grandma tarpits phone scammers in family-tech-support hell Academic research supports your gut-reaction; phishing training doesn’t work And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Greynoise. The always excitable Andrew Morris joins to remind us that the edge-device vulnerabilities Pat and Adam complain about on the show are in fact actually even worse than we make them out to be. Andrew also tells us about a zero-day Greynoise’ AI system truffle-pigged out of their data set. This episode is also available on Youtube.

11-20
01:01:12

Risky Business #770 -- A Russian IR guy discovers extremely cool spookware

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Apple frustrates law enforcement with iOS auto-reboot CISA says most KEV vulnerabilities in 2023 were first used as zero days Russians roll incident response on some sweet Linux spookware Regular users can create mailboxes in M365? Tor tracks down the source of its joe-job abuse complaints And much, much more. This week’s feature guest is former FBI agent Chris Tarbell, who arrested Silk Road operator Ross Ulbricht way back in 2013. As suggestions swirl that an incoming Trump administration might release Ulbricht, Chris talks about the reality of the Dread Pirate Roberts. This episode is sponsored by software supply chain security firm Socket.dev. Founder Feross Aboukhadijeh thinks that we need a CVE-like catalogue for supply-chain attacks, and he makes a solid argument. The show is also available on Youtube.

11-13
01:03:29

Risky Biz Soap Box: Why black box email security is dead

In this edition of the Risky Business Soap Box we’re talking all about email security with Sublime Security co-founder Josh Kamdjou. Email security is one of the oldest product categories in security, but as you’ll hear, Josh thinks the incumbents are just doing it wrong. He joins Risky Business host Patrick Gray for this interview about Sublime’s origin story and its new approach to email security.

11-11
36:12

Risky Business #769 -- Sophos drops implants on Chinese exploit devs

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: Sophos drops implants on Chinese firewall exploit devs Microsoft workshops better just-in-time Windows admin privileges Snowflake hacker arrested in Canada Okta has a fun, but not very impactful auth-bypass bug Russians bring dumb-but-smart RDP client attacks And much, much more. Special guest Sophos CISO Ross McKerchar joined us to talk about its “hacking back” campaign. The full interview is available on Youtube for those who want to really live vicariously through Sophos doing what every vendor probably wants to do. This week’s episode is sponsored by attack surface mapping vendor runZero. Founder and CEO HD Moore joins to talk about marrying up the outside and inside views of your network. You can also watch this episode on Youtube

11-06
56:51

Risky Business #768 -- CSRB will investigate China's Wiretap Hacks

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: CSRB to investigate China’s telco-wiretapping hacks Euro law enforcement takes down the Redline infostealer Someone steals Fed crypto… and then tries to quietly sneak it back in Russia sentences REvil guys to … jail? Really? Apple private cloud compute gets a proper bug bounty program And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Material Security, who help navigate the mess of cloud productivity data security. Daniel Ayala - Chief Security and Trust Officer at Dotmatics - is a Material customer, and joins Pat and Material Security’s Rajan Kapoor to talk about how to wrangle securing data that ends up in corporate cloud email and file stores. This episode is also available on Youtube.

10-30
51:37

Risky Biz Soap Box: Thinkst Canary's decade of deception

In this Soap Box edition of the podcast Patrick Gray chats with Thinkst Canary founder Haroon Meer about his “decade of deception”, including: A history of Thinkst Canary including a recap of what they actually do A look at why they’re still really the only major player in the deception game A look at what companies like Microsoft are doing with deception Why security startups should have conference booths

10-28
37:56

Risky Business #767 – SEC fines Check Point, Mimecast, Avaya and Unisys over hacks

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s cybersecurity news, including: SEC fines tech firms for downplaying the Solarwinds hacks Anonymous Sudan still looks and quacks like a Russian duck Apple proposes max 10 day TLS certificate life Oopsie! Microsoft loses a bunch of cloud logs Veeam and Fortinet are bad and should feel bad North Koreans are good (at hacking) And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by Proofpoint. Chief Strategy Officer Ryan Kalember joins to talk about their work keeping up with prolific threat actor SocGholish. This episode is also available on Youtube.

10-23
01:02:21

Risky Business #766 – China hacks America's lawful intercept systems

On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s infosec news, including: Chinese spooks all up in western telco lawful intercept Jerks ruin the Internet Archive’s day Microsoft drops a great report with a bad chart The feds make their own crypto currency and get it pumped Forti-, Palo- and Ivanti-fail And much, much more. This week’s episode is sponsored by detection-as-code vendor Panther. Casey Hill, Panther’s Director Product Management joins to discuss why the old “just bung it all in a data lake and… ???… “ approach hasn’t worked out, and what smart teams do to handle their logs. This episode is also available on [Youtube].(https://youtu.be/86zy6DcwtbE)

10-16
53:57

Snake Oilers: Sandfly Security, Permiso and Wiz

In this edition of Snake Oilers we hear pitches from three security vendors: Sandfly Security: An agentless Linux security platform that actually sounds very cool Permiso: An identity security platform founded by ex FireEye folks Wiz: The cloud security giant is getting in on code security scanning You can watch this edition of Snake Oilers on YouTube here.

10-01
40:22

Risky Business #765 -- The Kaspersky switcheroo

Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s infosec news with everyone’s favourite ex-NSA big-brain, Rob Joyce. They talk through: Musk and Durov bow to government pressure Tiktok rushes to ban authoritarian propagandists The US doesn’t want Chinese software in its cars Kaspersky replaces itself with an AV no one has ever heard of Aussie police chalk up another crimephone takedown Press Win-R Ctrl-V to prove you’re human And much, much more. This week’s show is brought to you by Stairwell, and Stairwell’s founder Mike Wiacek will be along to talk about how people are using their platform to hunt down detection resistant malware. A video version of this episode is also available on Youtube.

09-25
01:05:41

Risky Business #764 -- Mossad expands into telecommunications services

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the weeks security news, including: Hezbollah’s attempts to avoid SIGINT with pagers ends in explosions The US shines many bright lights on RT’s disinfo role Australia counters Chinese bullying in the Pacific Valid accounts are the most prevalent entry point, says CISA’s data Ivanti and Fortinet vie for worst vendor of the week Krebs writes up the shift towards charging The Com with terrorism And much, much more… This week’s episode is sponsored by Push Security, who bring security visibility to where it needs to be these days – the browser. Luke Jennings joins this week’s show to discuss how phish-kit crews are driving the arms race forward, and how detection has to adapt and go where the users are. This episode is also available on Youtube.

09-18
01:02:56

Risky Business #763 – Microsoft un-patches critical bug

On this week’s show, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the weeks security news, including: Russia’s disinformation peddlers face multifaceted sternness from the DoJ Telegram is now law enforcement’s bestest new pal, all of a sudden Iran’s banking industry arranges a payment plan for a ransom Columbia investigates how it sent private jets full of cash to pay for Pegasus Microsoft innovates with Un-Patch Tuesday And much, much more. This week’s sponsor is Kroll Cyber, and one of their incident responders Paul Wells joins to discuss that one weird trick that actually helps - preparing for an incident before hand, rather than learning all those hard lessons in the middle of a crisis. This week’s episode is also available on Youtube.

09-11
51:49

Snake Oilers: Authentik, Dropzone and SlashID

In this edition of Snake Oilers Patrick Gray gets pitches from three cybersecurity companies: Authentik, an open source identity provider that a lot of large organisations are deploying on prem as an alternative to cloud-based IDPs Dropzone AI, an LLM-based agent that can do the work of a Tier 1 SOC analyst SlashID, an identity security company that can crunch your logs to find attackers You can watch this edition of Snake Oilers on YouTube here.

09-06
38:03

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