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Author: Patrick Gray
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Risky Business is a weekly information security podcast featuring news and in-depth interviews with industry luminaries. Launched in February 2007, Risky Business is a must-listen digest for information security pros. With a running time of approximately 50-60 minutes, Risky Business is pacy; a security podcast without the waffle.
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In this special edition of the Risky Business podcast Patrick Gray chats with former Facebook CSO Alex Stamos and founding CISA director Chris Krebs about sovereignty and technology.
China and Russia are doing their level best to yeet American tech from their supply chains – hardware, software and cloud services. They’ll be rebuilding these supply chains – for government systems, at least – from components that they have complete visibility into, and control over.
Meanwhile, America’s government faces different supply chain challenges. It has a supply chain that won’t be weaponised against it by its adversaries, but it lacks the same sort of visibility and control that its adversaries will eventually achieve over their supply chains. So where does this leave the west? Where does it leave China and Russia?
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Palo Alto’s firewalls have a ../ bad day
Sisense’s bucket full of creds gets kicked over
United Healthcare draws the ire of congress
FISA 702 reauthorisation finally moves forward
Apple warns about “mercenary exploitation” but what’s the India link?
And much, much, more
This week’s sponsor is Panther, a platform that does detection as code on massive amounts of data. Panther’s founder Jack Naglieri is this week’s sponsor guest, and we spoke with him about some common detection-as-code approaches.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Ransomware: down but not out
Zero day prices on the rise…
… and what it means for enterprise software
Geopolitical conflict comes to computers in Palau
Ukraine cyber chief Illia Vitiuk suspended
More x86 microarchitectural bad times
And much much more
Proofpoint’s chief strategy officer Ryan Kalember is this week’s sponsor guest. He takes aim at some recent vendor trends, like security companies describing themselves as “platforms”.
In this edition of Snake Oilers you’ll hear pitches from three companies:
Kodex: Makes a platform companies can use to interact with law enforcement (Solves the law enforcement impersonator problem, among others.)
ClearVector: Cloud security startup from former FireEye/Mandiant SVP/CTO John Laliberte
Censys: Scans the entire internet, identifies assets you didn’t know were yours, helps you track attacker infrastructure like C2
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
The SSH backdoor that dreams (or nightmares) are made of
Microsoft gets a solid spanking from the CSRB
Ukraine uses an old Russian WinRAR bug to hack Russia
Push-notifications and social-engineering combined-arms vs Apple
And much, much more.
We have a special guest in this week’s show, Andres Freund, the Postgres developer who discovered the backdoor in the xz Linux compression library.
This week’s show is brought to you by Island, a company that makes a security-focussed enterprise browser. Island’s Bradon Rogers is this week’s sponsor guest and he’ll be joining us to talk about how people are swapping out their Virtual Desktop Infrastructure for enterprise-focussed browsers like theirs.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
FVEY protests China’s widespread hacking of western politicians
China bans western CPUs, Windows and databases
Apple’s leaky M-chip prefetcher
Nigeria holds ex-IRS investigator hostage in Binance stoush
Researchers bring Rowhammer to AMD Zen and DDR5
And much, much more.
This week’s show is brought to you by Thinkst Canary. Its founder Haroon Meer joins this week’s show to make a passionate case that security vendors don’t all have to go for explosive growth. Slow and steady with a focus on excellent and relevant products will win the race, he says.
In this Soap Box edition of the podcast Patrick Gray talks to Nucleus Security co-founder Scott Kuffer about whether or not cloud service vulnerabilities should get CVEs, what on earth is happening with NIST’s National Vulnerability Database (NVD) and more.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Turns out AI is still bad code review after all,
Mintlify loses a bunch of Github tokens,
Everything old is new again with the UDP loop DoS,
Know-your-(recon satellite)-customer is hard,
Microsoft takes away Russia’s powershell, solving living off the land,
And much, much more
This week’s show is brought to you by Material Security. In this week’s sponsor interview we speak with Material’s Rajan Kapoor, VP of Customer Experience at Material. We’re also joined by Chaim Sanders, who heads Security and Privacy at Lyft.
On this week’s show Patrick and Adam discuss the week’s security news, including:
Weather forecast in Redmond is still for blizzards at midnight
Maybe Change Healthcare wasn’t just crying nation-state wolf
Hackers abuse e-prescription systems to sell drugs
CISA goes above and beyond to relate to its constituency by getting its Ivantis owned
VMware drinks from the Tianfu Cup
Much, much more
This week’s feature guest is John P Carlin. He was principal associate deputy attorney general under Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco for about 18 months in 2021 and 2022, and also served as Robert Mueller’s chief of staff when he was FBI director.
John is joining us this week to talk about all things SEC. He wrote the recent Amicus Brief that says the SEC needs to be careful in its action against Solarwinds. He’ll also be talking to us more generally about these new SEC disclosure requirements, which are in full swing.
Rad founder Jimmy Mesta will along in this week’s sponsor segment to talk about some really interesting work they’ve done in baselining cloud workloads. It’s the sort of thing that sounds simple that really, really isn’t.
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
The serious consequences from the Change Healthcare ransomware, and the need for a … nastier response
Predator spyware maker getting a stern sanctioning
A German military WebEx meeting gets snooped
Mem-corrpution is still king
And much, much more
In this week’s sponsor interview Patrick Gray speaks to Karl McGuinness, Okta’s chief architect, about some new security improvements they’ve built into their IDP.
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
LockBit gets back up after takedown
Russia arrests Medibank hacker… for something else
ConnectWise gives out free updates, but customers aren’t happy
Microsoft gives in to demands for more logs
Sandvine gets entity-listed
And much much more.
Dmitri Alperovitch also joins the show to discuss Starlink, Starshield and a row with Congress about its availability in Taiwan.
In this week’s sponsor interview, Airlock Digital’s Daniel Schell talks about his adventures with WDAC, and Dave Cottingham predicts Windows 12 will go all in on signed code.
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
LockBit has been taken down by law enforcement
Some mega-juicy leaks out of Chinese offsec/APT contractor I-SOON
GRU gets its Moobot network shutdown
Signal adding usernames is… complicated
Much, much more
In this week’s sponsor interview Devicie’s Tom Plant joins the show to talk about problems orgs run into when it comes to Windows policies. There’s an expectation out there that Windows policies are set and forget, but sadly, this is not so.
The need to properly secure Entra ID tenants has been made pretty obvious this year thanks to a large-scale attack on them by Russia’s SVR intelligence agency. In this interview Andy Robbins from SpecterOps, the maker of Bloodhound Enterprise, talks through how he thinks those attacks actually went down, about how if you’re an o365 customer you’re using Entra ID whether you like it or not, and about how you can lock down your Entra ID tenant.
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
Somehow there are still more Ivanti and Fortinet exploits
Volt Typhoon have been at it for years
Starlink in Ukraine gets complicated
Canadians hate poor Flipper
Much, much more…
In this week’s sponsor interview Feross Aboukhadijeh from Socket joins the show to talk about the sheer volume of malicious packages being committed to code repositories and why older SCA tools aren’t well equipped to deal with them.
In this Soap Box interview Greynoise founder and absolute legend Andrew Morris joins the show to talk about:
Why Greynoise hasn’t seen a substantial drop off in Volt Typhoon’s network of compromised routers after the US Government’s takedown action
How vendors are using Greynoise as an early warning system to identify exploitation of their products
How he’s using large language models to reverse exploitation attempts into actual exploits
It truly is a great conversation, we hope you enjoy it!
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
Thought eels were slippery? Check out AnyDesk’s PR!
Why Microsoft’s 365 is a nightmare to secure
Cloudflare’s needlessly hostile blog post
US Government introduces “Disneyland ban” for spyware peddlers
Much, much more…
This week’s feature guest is Eric Goldstein, the executive assistant director for cybersecurity at CISA. He’s joining the show to talk about CISA’s demand that US government agencies unplug their Ivanti appliances. He also chimes in on why the US government is so rattled by Volt Typhoon and addresses a recent report from Politico that claims CISA’s Joint Cyber Defense Collaborative is a bit of a shambles.
This week’s sponsor guest is Dan Guido from Trail of Bits. He joins us to talk about their new Testing Handbook. Trail of Bits does a bunch of audit work and they’ve committed to trying to make bug discovery a one time thing – if you find that bug once, you shouldn’t have to manually find it on another client engagement. Semgrep for the win!
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They talk about:
More details on sanctioned Medibank hacker Aleksandr Ermakov
More details on alleged Scattered Spider hacker Noah Michael Urban
RUMINT that the number of Microsoft customers impacted by the SVR oauth/365 campaign is huge
Ron Wyden did something useful…
…then did something stupid
Ivanti’s clown car collides with dumpster fire
Much, much more
This week’s feature guest is Australia’s assistant foreign minister (and cybersecurity tragic) Tim Watts. He joins us to talk about why the Australian government sanctioned Aleksandr Ermakob.
Sublime Security founder and CEO Josh Kamdjou is this week’s sponsor guest. He joins us to talk about combating QR-code phishing.
In this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news.
Microsoft honks its clown car horn
Australia’s hounds, released, catch their man
The beginning of the end for Scattered Spider
SEC was SIM swapped but had MFA off any way
Ivanti learns a lesson…
… while Progress does not
and much more
DHS undersecretary for policy and Cyber Safety Review Board head Rob Silvers is this week’s feature guest. He joins the show to talk about how the CSRB handles possible conflicts of interests from board members with industry day jobs.
In this week’s sponsor interview Resourcely’s founder Travis McPeak talks about why we need to help developers with “paved roads” instead of relying on dashboard products to tell us when things have gone wrong.
On this week’s SURPRISE edition, Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:
Their disappointment over last week’s SEC Twitter hack
China rainbow-tables Airdrop
Enterprise bugs galore…
… and why patching fast is hard when there isn’t even a patch yet
UEFI flaws get trad-BIOS-era vendor response
and much, much more…
This week’s show is unsponsored, we’re just here for the fun of it.
On this week’s show Patrick Gray and Adam Boileau discuss the week’s security news. They cover:
SEC Twitter account hack moves bitcoin price
Kaspersky admires Triangulation hackers’ fine work
Telcos hacked all over
Israel hacks Iranian gasoline pumps again
Iran up in Albania, Sudan, Egypt and Tanzania
and much, much more…
This week’s show is brought to you by Nucleus Security. Co-founder Scott Kuffer joins us to talk about why patch management is more nuanced than just “patch fast!”
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