Roll With The Punches

In this episode, I’m chatting with the ah-mazing Tahlia Isaac, and trust me, her story is nothing short of an inspiration. From battling addiction and serving time in prison to becoming a fierce advocate for women re-entering society, Tahlia’s journey is raw, real, and powerful. She’s not just talking about change - she’s living it through her work with her charity, Strong. Empowered. Living Free (SELF). We get down to business around the nitty-gritty of her past, what pulled Tahlia down that path, and (more importantly) how she clawed her way back out. Tahlia shares how she’s using this lived experience to create real impact for other women going through the same struggles. We talk identity, forgiveness, and what it really takes to rebuild your life after hitting rock bottom. Enjoy! TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au TAHLIA ISAAC Podcast: I Hear You Podcast TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, I chat with these two chatty souls Samantha King and Jess Curtis from the I Hear You podcast about navigating emotions, relationships, and self-awareness in both personal and professional life. We kick off by exploring how we process conversations differently - whether we're in them or reflecting afterward - and the insights that come from each. From importance of speaking our feelings out loud, balancing being present with later reflection, and how honesty with ourselves and others is key. I share lessons I've taken from my own relationships and experience of how open conversations, especially around resentment, have been transformative. Samantha and Jess also talk about purpose, self-compassion, and the challenge of living up to societal expectations. It’s a cracker of a conversation about relationships, self-awareness, and finding balance in the chaos that is life.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au SAM & JESS Podcast: I Hear You Podcast TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

If you think lifting heavy weights is just for bodybuilders and powerlifters, it’s time to smash that myth. Today, I’m rolling up my sleeves to chat with Dr. Mandy Hagstrom, a powerhouse in the world of strength training, research, and elite-level athleticism. She’s here to talk about why all women (yep, ALL of us) need to embrace the barbell and stop playing it safe with the light dumbbells. Mandy shares her journey from Olympic weightlifting to becoming a national champion powerlifter, balancing elite sport with the demands of academia, and why lifting heavy has a direct line to improving quality of life - even for cancer survivors. We dig deep into everything from the myths that hold women back in the gym, to how strength training can boost not just physical health but mental resilience, too. Oh, and did I mention we’re talking about running marathons, dealing with burnout, and how sometimes science just needs to evolve? Trust me, you’re going to walk away from this episode ready to lift heavy, push your limits, and rethink everything you thought you knew about strength.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au DR MANDY HAGSTROM Website: dr-mandy-hagstrom TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Negotiation... it’s a skill we all need, but let’s be real, most of us aren’t born with it. That’s why today, we’ve brought back our go-to expert, Nicole Davidson, to dive into the fine art of negotiation, conflict resolution, and managing the tricky balance of egos and emotions. In this ep, Nicole and I get down to the juicy stuff: the psychology behind negotiation, why your emotions (and theirs) can make or break a deal, and how knowing when to walk away might be your best move. My interest was piqued with her newest service - think of her as Judge Judy for small business disputes - giving a low-cost solution to avoid the courtroom while still getting things done. We even delve into the rise of AI in negotiations (ummmm yep, you might be negotiating with a bot and not even know it!). Whether you’re dealing with a business partner, negotiating a deal, or just trying to navigate daily conversations, Nicole’s insights will leave you thinking differently about the power of curiosity, listening, and asking the right questions.    TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au NICOLE DAVIDSON Website: nicoledavidsonnegotiation.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ding, ding, ding! Round 2 with Dr. Donna Lyon, and this conversation is packed with power, vulnerability, and raw truth. Donna's back on the show, and boy oh boy has she achieved some amazing things since episode 220 when we first spoke.  We dive deep into her groundbreaking documentary Left, Right Hook, where Donna takes us behind the scenes of this raw and impactful film. A project that isn't just about boxing; it's about healing, empowerment, and giving voice to survivors of child sexual abuse. The film has made waves, including winning the Audience Award at the Melbourne International Film Festival. Donna talks about the challenges, the breakthroughs, and the deep discomfort of seeing herself on screen, capturing moments of vulnerability that continue to shift her perspective. Tears? Yep. I cried right throughout the film - a beautiful, heart-wrenching kind of cry that reminded me just how powerful storytelling and connection are. We unpack the therapeutic side of boxing, how stepping into the ring is about more than just the punches, and what it means to have agency in the healing process. Tune in as we talk trauma, boundaries, vulnerability, and the incredible power of giving voice to your pain. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who's been knocked down and is ready to stand back up stronger.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au DR DONNA LYON Website: leftwritehook.org TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When it comes to Aussie female fighters, Taylah Gentzen is one I'm backing all the way. We go way back to our early amateur days, and today we’re chatting all things resilience, empowerment, and vulnerability. Taylah opens up about her journey from the boxing ring to becoming a mum, sharing the highs and lows, including a gut-wrenching loss that nearly made her walk away from the sport. But instead, she’s found that sweet spot between strength and vulnerability. We dig into how boxing has transformed her, the mental toughness it takes to step in the ring, and why feeling your emotions matters just as much as throwing punches. Taylah also shares her journey into motherhood with her fiancée, Lana, as they navigated the IVF process, choosing a donor, and the beautiful chaos of raising their little girl, Stevie. I absolutely love this conversation—Taylah is a total legend. Get ready to jump on the Swifty train!   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au TAYLAH GENTZEN Instagram: @taylah_gentzen TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Dr. Stacy Sims is the absolute G.O.A.T. when it comes to women’s health and fitness. In this chat (that I'm SUPER excited about) we burrow down into the differences between how men and women respond to things like intermittent fasting and intense training. Spoiler alert: 'women aren’t just small men', and what works for the fellas can actually wreak havoc on our systems! Dr. Sims breaks it all down, from why we should focus on strength training (especially as we get older), and how to go about it to the key supplements we should be taking. She also dishes out solid advice on managing energy and fueling our bodies the right way to avoid LEA (low energy availability) and burnout - trust me, the stats on LEA are mind-blowing. If you’re tired of sifting through all the confusion and BS out there, and ready to get into the nitty-gritty of optimising health, performance, and resilience for women, this is the episode you’ve been waiting for. Oh yeah, and for my fellow sisters who (like me) are dipping toes into that peri-menopausal chaos, don't worry I've thrown some questions in around that too! Go give Dr. Sims a follow if you’re not already, her content is pure gold.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au DR. STACY SIMS Website: drstacysims.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

After a good hearty chat with Michael O'Brien about finding life-long love the old school way with a personals ad in the newspaper (we never quite know where a conversation might start or finish on this show hey) we get into talking about life. The only thing scarier than almost dying can surely be the thought of only almost living, right? When I speak to people like Michael who have been landed with a pretty heavy hit from life and almost had theirs taken in the process, it leaves me wondering how many of us are only ‘almost living’ our whole lives. Living with worry, anxiety and fear around things that perhaps don’t really matter. Michael and I unpack how a near-fatal cycling accident shifted his entire perspective on life, work, and chasing that ever-elusive 'happiness.' He takes us through his journey from corporate hustle and grind to a life grounded in mindfulness, gratitude, and living fully in each moment. We also dig into his post-accident recovery, both physically and mentally, and how he found peace and purpose through small, daily practices like his life-changing ‘Pause, Breathe, Reflect’ method. From redefining success to embracing life's imperfections, Michael’s story is a powerful reminder that sometimes you’ve got to get knocked down to rise stronger than ever. Whether you’re a workaholic, a cyclist, or just someone who needs to slow the hell down, this conversation is for you (and certainly me).   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au MICHAEL O'BRIEN Website: michaelobrienshift.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hannah Clarke’s tragic story shook Australia to the core and brought the conversation around men’s violence against women to the spotlight. In late 2023 I listened to the podcast series ‘Hannah’s Story’, hosted by Australian Broadcast Journalist & Nine News Presenter Melissa Downes. Hearing the full details of her ordeal deepened my understanding of coercive control and abusive behavior, igniting my awareness of the critical issue we have within Australia. In this episode, I had the privilege of spending time with Hannah Clarke’s best friend, Dave Kramer, an opportunity I’ll forever truly cherish. Dave opens up about his personal experiences with Hannah and their friendship, while also reflecting on her tragic story and how knowing what he now knows, what needs to change within our societies culture to prevent behaviours leading to tragedies such as this. Since Hannah’s death, Dave has dedicated himself to Small Steps 4 Hannah and to raising awareness about domestic violence, the responsibility men have in challenging toxic behaviors, and the role we all must play in creating a safer society. This conversation with Dave is a much-needed example of the courage and allyship Australian women desperately want and need as we push for change in our fight against domestic violence. This is a tough conversation, but one that needs to happen. Thanks, Dave, from all of us.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au DAVE KRAMER Website: smallsteps4hannah.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Back in 2021 I had the most incredible conversation with Peter Crone, The Mind Architect. Peters' ability to observe and reframe how we relate to, and speak of, our experiences is exceptional and made for somewhat of a live mindset coaching session around connection, rejection, abandonment and shame. It's been one of the top performing and widely appreciated episodes to date, and so I'm sharing one of the moments with you today. Links below to revisit the full conversation if you like what you hear. Listen to episode 230 on Apple Podcast Listen to episode 230 on Spotify TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: tiffcook.com LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chance Burns' journey is nothing short of remarkable. After an accident that left him quadriplegic, Chance pushed through and has regained about 50% of his muscle function. In this conversation, he opens up about his rehabilitation, the mental hurdles he’s faced, and the unique perspective he's gained from living with his injury. From learning to walk with a cane to driving and even playing golf, Chance’s story is a testament to pushing limits and finding new ways to thrive. His fresh take on vulnerability and his use of humor to navigate challenges inspire others to do the same. This episode offers a new perspective on strength, resilience, and the mindset needed to beat the odds.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au CHANCE BURNS Website: chanceburns.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this episode, Kerryn Vaughan and I dive deep into the messy, beautiful, and downright funny moments that make life real. We’re talking about everything from my dog Luna's recent paw drama and how a little canine wisdom can teach us more than we think, to Kerryn’s tale of her runaway donkey and the wild ride of grief, loss, and learning to let go. Of course we tackle the big stuff - trauma, resilience, and how we’re all just figuring it out as we go - while still finding joy in the small stuff, like kicking the footy in the street or smiling at a stranger on a run. It’s raw, it’s real, and it’s full of laughs and hopefully a few 'aha' moments too. Buckle up. It’s a cracker! TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au KERRYN VAUGHAN Website: kerrynvaughan.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Well, today I got to sit down with the amazing Rebecca Adam, CEO of Expression Australia. And let me tell you, this episode was a first for me - I had my very first Auslan-interpreted conversation, and I was like a kid in a candy shop! Rebecca’s story blew me away. She’s profoundly deaf, but that hasn’t stopped her from smashing through glass ceilings. She’s the first deaf CEO of her organization in 140 years and she's also a lawyer to the Supreme Court of Victoria using Auslan.  We talked about everything from her experiences growing up in a deaf household, to leading a national organisation, to the ways technology is helping (and sometimes falling short) when it comes to deaf inclusion. I even learned that one in six Aussies is actually affected by hearing loss. Rebecca’s got such a calm, yet powerful presence, and she’s been breaking barriers in education, sports, law - you name it.. I adore her! Her resilience and the way she’s used adversity as fuel to become a leader and an advocate for the deaf community is such a legendary achievement. Plus, huge thanks to Mark Quinn, the Auslan interpreter. This conversation was one of my favourites! TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au REBECCA ADAM Website: expressionaustralia.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Righto legends, strap yourselves in because today I’m sitting down with an absolute weapon of a human, Kris Clelland. Now, Kris isn’t your everyday bloke - he’s the kind of guy who took on the 75 Hard challenge and smashed through it... with a broken ankle! Yeah, you heard that right. We dive into the grit and determination it takes to push through something like that, but this convo goes way beyond fitness. We explore Kris's life from growing up in Scotland, navigating the challenges of his early life, and how those experiences shaped the resilient person he is today. Kris opens up about dealing with the profound loss of both of his parents at a relatively young age, showing us the raw and real side of his story. We also chat about his move to Australia, carving out his path in a new country, and building a career that spans continents and industries. But it doesn’t stop there—Kris shares his insights on leadership, personal growth, and how he balances his work-hard, play-hard mentality with a deep passion for helping others succeed. We get into his strategies for overcoming obstacles, his approach to continuous learning, and the importance of mental health and resilience in both personal and professional life. This chat is packed with inspiration, motivation, and insights and I absolutely loved it! TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au KRIS CLELLAND Website: talintpartners.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

You can't talk or trick yourself out of memories. That shit is stored in the body, not just the mind (just ask Dr. Bessel van der Kolk). That's why it's so damn tricky to process grief and trauma. You might remember in April 2022 I dropped my furry little heart and soul, Coach the Whippet, into the vet for a minor surgical procedure on her dislocated toe, only to receive the afternoon phone call that no fur mumma wants to get. They'd lost her under general anesthetic. So last week when I was told my Luna girl needed to be sedated for surgical removal of grit in her paw pad, you can imagine the unease... My internal reaction sparks some thoughts, and I'm unpacking them in this short and sweet episode.     TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandcoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In this lively and thought-provoking episode, I'm back with Mike Rucker, and we're diving into the deep end of fun - yet again! Nearly 18 months have passed since our last chat, and let me tell you, Mike's been knee-deep in all things fun and research, while I've been busy doing life with a side of introspection. We talk about the evolution of our thoughts, the balance between hustle and happiness, and why fun isn't just a luxury - it's essential. Whether you're an entrepreneur burning the candle at both ends or just someone looking to inject a bit more joy into your day, this episode is for you. So, grab a cuppa and join us as we unpack the fine art of living well, with a whole lot of fun. TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au MIKE RUCKER Website: michaelrucker.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In a world so connected, it's hard to believe that loneliness is rapidly becoming one of our most alarming epidemics. The impact of loneliness is comparable to smoking 15 cigarettes a day, increasing the risk of death by 26%. It's also a precursor to dementia, heart disease, and depression. Surprisingly, the stigma and shame surrounding loneliness are even more prevalent than those associated with mental health. With an estimated 2.9 million Australian adults experiencing high levels of loneliness, Hans van Pelt joins me today to discuss why combating loneliness is a cause close to his heart and what we can do to make a difference. TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Ever been so burnt out that you didn't even recognise yourself anymore? Join me and Bobby Cappuccio as we dive deep into the real-talk of burnout, boundaries, and why self-care isn't just about bubble baths and spa days. Bobby shares about his own intense journey through burnout, the brutal wake-up call he faced, and how he had to redefine what it means to be a leader - both for himself and others. We also tackle the quirks of identity, the pressure of people-pleasing, and why sometimes the bravest thing you can do is say, "I can't do this anymore." This episode is, as usual, a raw, unfiltered conversation that blends humor, vulnerability, and some damn good insights on navigating life's toughest moments. If you're feeling the weight of the world on your shoulders, this one's for you. Let's unpack it together.  TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au BOBBY CAPPUCCIO Website: theselfhelpantidote.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What an incredible gift Sarah U'Brien has in her ability to openly express her experience supporting her partner, former police and fire fighter, Matt U'Brien throughout the journey of managing the impact that PTSI has had (and continues to have) on their lives. Post Traumatic Stress Injury doesn't just impact the person experiencing it, it impacts those around them who love and care for them, every bit as much. The wives, husbands, partners, children, parents, family, friends. This conversation is one of only 3 amidst my 826 episodes so far that made me cry... and hey, you might want to grab a Kleenex yourself before you hit 'play'. Mental health and mental injury can make the world feel like a lonely and unfamiliar place, even in your very own home. Yet hopefully through people like Sarah who have found the words and resources to share their experiences and their insights, others can find hope, connection and resources to offer a light at the end of the tunnel. Today we hear about PTSI from the perspective of one loving partner & mother, and two young daughters, as they navigate what the changes and circumstances meant for themselves as individuals, for Matt, and for their family as a whole.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au SARAH U'BRIEN Instagram: instagram.com/Living_alongside_ptsd TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On December 4, 2019, Steve Phillip received the phone call every parent dreads. His son, Jordan Phillip, at 34 years old, had ended his life by suicide. Jordan wasn't just a son, he was a brother, a stepson, a stepbrother, a loving boyfriend, a grandson, an uncle, a cousin and a best friend. He was tall and handsome and turned many a head, male and female. His friends both loved and envied him. At his funeral they described Jordan as; well-mannered, a great listener, kind and considerate, intelligent, cool but humble, ridiculously handsome, a true gentleman, humorous, “being a friend with him was never a chore”, “he was the person I would usually turn to at difficult times like this”, “he was the best and most loyal friend I ever had”, “He was remarkable in every sense”. Since that harrowing phone call, Steve has devoted himself to the work of suicide prevention, with the hope that one day no one else will have to receive such a call. In this conversation, Steve shares his journey as a father and as an ever-evolving expert in suicide prevention. He offers crucial insights and education on how we can better support and understand those at risk of suicidal ideation. This is a powerful and valuable discussion about a difficult topic, and Steve has transformed a gut-wrenching tragedy into a meaningful legacy.   TESTART FAMILY LAWYERS Website: testartfamilylawyers.com.au STEVE PHILLIP Website: thejordanlegacy.com TIFFANEE COOK Linktree: linktr.ee/rollwiththepunches/ Website: rollwiththepunches.com.au LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/tiffaneecook/ Facebook: facebook.com/rollwiththepunchespodcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/rollwiththepunches_podcast/ Instagram: instagram.com/tiffaneeandco    See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.