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There is more to ocean swimming than just swimming in the ocean. In The Pod, we chat about all aspects of ocean swimming, from how we can keep the oceans swimmable, to oceans on other planets.
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Michaela Werner is free diver, who in 2023, set a new world record, becoming the first woman to swim 101 underwater laps of a 25-metre pool in an hour. Born in Slovakia, she moved to Australia at age 19 where she fell in love with freediving. Michaela can swim 200m underwater, can hold her breath for six minutes and is a qualified free-diving instructor and coach.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Let Me Breathe (Wardub) - Rhekluse
Breathe - INOSSI
Breathe - LiQWYD
hold your breath - ikkunn
Free Dive - Cymatish
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from Michaela on instagram
Anthony Blazevich is a Professor of Biomechanics in the School of Medical and Health Sciences at Edith Cowan University. He is also the head of the Centre for Exercise and Sports Science Research, so is a fabulous person to talk to about biomechanics, body types and how our physiology affects our ability to move through water. Listen in to hear how you could tweak your stroke for quicker times, and why we still may see many more world records in the pool (and ocean). He has also conducted extremely interesting research on the benefits (or not) of stretching.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Biomechanics - Bit Funk & Jason Gaffner
Biomechanics - I.D.L.E
Biomechanics - Greyscale Music
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo created by me using Bing AI Image Creator
Rebecca Olive is an ocean swimmer whose academic research explores the role of sport and leisure in human and environmental health. In particular, her work explores the practices and cultures of ocean swimming and surfing to understand how human and environmental well-being interact, as well as our relationships to all things blue-space, such as sharks, animals, plastics, pollution and health. Her Moving Oceans website examines how participation in ocean sports shapes our behaviours towards taking care of the oceans. She has also published some fantastic reads in The Conversation - we talk about these two in the podcast:
When we swim in the ocean, we enter another animal’s home. Here’s how to keep us all safe.
Olympic swimming in the Seine highlights efforts to clean up city rivers worldwide.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
off-set flippers x - bowdeeni fish x
Crocodile Teeth Freestyle - Lajan Slim
Olive - evildirk
Olive - Słejzi Wysocki
Olive Spring @ Imperss Music 2022
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Moving Oceans
Michelle O’Shea is a Senior Lecturer at Western Sydney University whose research interests dive into the areas of sport, culture and society, particularly with regard to swimming. She has looked into issues such as why swimming lessons for kids are important, as well as the role of the swimming pool in society. Her research particularly examines issues relevant to gender and diversity, and how the pool and the beach, despite the great Australian egalitarian myth, can be quite exclusionary places.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
The Magic of Diversity - The Egotwisters
Inclusion - Tenshou Kikiko
Diversity - Africk
Culture Vulture - Vincent Remember
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from wikicommons
Primrose Freestone, Associate Professor in Clinical Microbiology at the University of Leicester and science communicator, is an infectious diseases expert, and has dived into the debate of whether swimming in a pool or in the natural environment is the safer option. She also takes us through the cleanliness of hot-tubs (hint, they're gross.)
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Bugs - GNAAR
Bugs - Phillip Barker
Bug's Land - Vadim Krakhmal
Little bugs - i m p a u s e a b l e
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from wikimedia
Seena Mathew is Assistant Professor of Biology, University of Mary Hardin-Baylor. As a neurobiologist, she studies the effects of swimming on the brain, which are many! You can read her article in The Conversation (Swimming gives your brain a boost – but scientists don’t know yet why it’s better than other aerobic activities) or tune in here!
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
The brain cells strike back - Lofi Factory
Stuck in my brain - Atch
Planetary alignment - Dr Brain
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from StockSnap
Episode 50! Swimmer's ear (acute otitis externa) is an outer ear infection that many swimmers will have had at some point in their lives. However, it turns out that you don't have to go swimming to get swimmer's ear. Thomas Schrepfer is assistant professor of head and neck surgery in the University of Florida Department of Otolayrngology, and a keen diver and swimmer.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
A short earache - Mooge
Ear infection - Mad Wax
In my ear - Bbbyugy
Right ear - Aphickey
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo by Franco Antonio Giovanella on Unsplash.
Rolf Hut is a hydrological scientist from Delft University of Technology. Or perhaps he's better described as MacGyver scientist, attacking problems from different and interesting angles. One such problem was the infamous 1962 escape from Alcatraz, in which inmates Clarence Anglin, John Anglin, and Frank Morris escaped from Alcatraz Federal Penitentiary, by tucking papier-mâché versions of their heads into their beds, escaping their cells through the ventilation ducts, climbing through an unused utility corridor, across roofs and over fences, before leaving the island on an improvised inflatable raft made of rain jackets. Rolf helped build perhaps the most sophisticated model of the currents in the bay area on the night of escape to look at the question of whether the inmates could possibly have survived the journey, and then tested the research in his own Mythbusters-esque escape from Alcatraz.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Form Flow - Rolf
Oca - John Hut
Chicken Hut Bluegrass - Silverman Sound Studios
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Rolf's page at Delft
Andy Donaldson is a world-recorder holding open-water swimmer. In 2023, he is attempting to swim the Oceans Seven in one year, and is making a pretty good fist of it, having already swum the English Channel (in a British record time), the North Channel (only 4 minutes off the record), the Cook Strait (in world record time) and the Molokai Channel in Hawaii. At the time of recording, he was setting off to swim the Strait of Gibraltar - and by time I published, he had broken the British record. He is raising money for Black Dog Institute
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Andy - MisfitMediocrity
Donald trumpet vs delirium (silence) - David (G.RaFF) parton
Son Lux - Lost It To Trying (Umpire Remix) - Umpire
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from Andy on instagram
Pedro Ordenes is an Alcatraz legend, having swum the famous route over 1000 times!! Pedro runs Water World Swim that organizes many swims in San Francisco Bay, California and across the world. I was lucky enough to swim Alcatraz with Water World Swim recently in April 2023.
Pedro is an exceptionally accomplished open water swimmer, perhaps the highlight being swimming the Strait of Magellan in South America, in 3.5°C with 60 km/hr winds and 3-5 feet swells against 12-14 knot currents! He has also swum a double crossing of the Beagle Channel between Chile and Argentina. Pedro is now also a very well respected open-water coach.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Out In The Sticks - Escape From The Alcatraz - CVMR
Prisonnier D Alcatraz - Deadline313
Sonus Locus: Doors of Alcatraz - Analog Soul
Jail - J-Seiei Beatz
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Water World Swim
Peta Bradley is a member of the Australian ice swimming team that recently competed at the World Ice Swimming Championships in France. She competed in the 1000m, 500m, and 50m butterfly, bringing home a bronze medal in the 500m. Peta hails from Gilgandra, quite some distance from any coastline, and does a lot of her training in dams. She has also completed the coveted ice mile at Thedbo. Peta is the manager of sheep genetics, within the livestock genetics team at Meat and Livestock Australia.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Ice - Workers
Ice - whatfunk
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from Peta Bradley - it is the Australian team at the World Champs - Peta, Nick Hungerford and Ellery McGowan
Lynne Cox is arguably the most accomplished ocean swimmer of all time. She set the record for the English Channel in 1972, was the first woman to swim the Cook Strait in New Zealand in 1975, famously swam between the US and the USSR in 1987 across the Bering Strait in bone-chilling 3 degree waters, and then even colder in Antarctica and Greenland. She has a list of achievements too long to list here. Lynne is also an author, and has a new book called Tales of Al - The Water Rescue Dog, detailing her experiences with Italy's elite, highly specialized corps of water rescue dogs who jump from helicopters and save lives. Thanks very much to Knopf for sending me a preprint.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Rescue Dog - Dav Blues
Rescue Dog - Ross J. Miller
Rescue Dog - Electrophonvintage
The New FoundLand EP 18 Guest Mix UNK - UNK
New Found Land - Mojis
Only my winnings - New Found Land
Sapphire - Tobu
Photo from Lynne Cox
Professor Peter Ralph is Executive Director of the Climate Change Cluster in the Faculty of Science at UTS, and is partnering with Australian surf brand Piping Hot to develop textiles made from seaweed for surfwear. Nature-derived alternatives for the fashion industry have the potential to revolutionise products and vastly reduce their impact on the oceans.
Apologies for a little bit of building noise in the background!
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Seaweed - Offkey Lifestyle
Sea-weed - Martin Williamson
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from UTS
Eli Ball is training to swim the English Channel... butterfly. Yes, you read that correctly. Butterfly. He is an exceptionally accomplished butterflying ocean swimmer, having completed a plethora of marathon ocean swims, including the 20km Rottnest Island swim, along the way setting the butterfly record.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Butterfly - takashi_d
Butterfly - Adam Andrys
Butterfly - Joachim Heinrich
Butterfly - ReMiXis
Butterfly - Britney Starr
Butterfly - Phòng Thu Âm Nguyễn Báu
Butterfly - 李雨寰 Lee Johan
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Eli fan page on Facebook
I would like to acknowledge the horribly sad tragedy here in Sydney last week, with a swimmer killed in a shark attack at Malabar, a place at which I have swum many times. Sharks are an ever present thought for ocean swimmers, and they are one of the topics in today's episode, which was recorded a few weeks before the incident. My sincerest condolences are with Simon's family and friends.
Lauren Tischendorf is the first woman to swim solo around Lord Howe Island - 32.2 km of sharks, currents, 25 knot winds and 2.5 metre swell, finishing in 13 hours 50 minutes and 26 seconds. She has also filmed a documentary of the swim, I just went for a swim, highlighting the spectacular ocean as well as the importance of the empowerment of girls and women. You can watch this film throughout Australia very soon in the Women's Adventure Film Festival.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Lord - Leaux Mane
Howe - Andervall
Island - extenz
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Lauren on instagram
Brendan Cullen is training to swim the English channel, but what makes his journey exceptional is that he is a sheep farmer from Kars Station, east of Broken Hill in NSW, and is about 350 km from the nearest coastline. Four mornings a week, Brendan swims in the murky waters of Lake Pamamaroo and Lake Copi Hollow in the Menindee Lakes, where he can't typically see more than 20 centimetres in front of his face (video). And there's not a lot of open water in the desert!
Brendan already has some major swimming achievements under his belt, such as swimming for 8 hours non-stop, and he an ambassador for lifeline, raising awareness and money for mental health.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Broken - dikomm
Hill - Valance
Broken - Mind Over Mayhem
Hill - Damien Bronieki
Broken - trifonic
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Jacinta Cullen / smh.
Peter Hancock has now swum well over 1000 consecutive days, most days in Dumaresq Dam in Armidale, central NSW. Often the temperature is down near freezing. But this is not the first time Pete has conquered an incredible swimming challenge. In 2014, he swam in 333 different locations in the one year, including in the 1.6 degree Fox Glacier River in New Zealand.
As a freshwater ecologist, it's not just the swimming that Pete likes - there are plenty of things to look at! He has discovered new species of fresh water crustaceans and beetles, and documents much of it on Instagram.
Pete also recently completed an indoor Iron Man, raising money for Headspace. So he knows how to run and cycle as well! You can see his adventures on strava.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Set - Michael Douglas Dumaresq
Armidale - Malfatti
Like I do - Dam
Feel good - Invertebrate
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Pete on Instagram. Also see Pete on Twitter.
Jaimee Rogers hosts the Big Sports Breakfast program on Sky Sports Radio, is a national level swimmer in the 200m breaststroke, and is now tackling the English Channel. She is raising money with Gotcha4life to support mental health programs. You can sponsor her here.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Balmoral - Peyrius
Winter - Datasuck
Calais to Dover - Binder and Howorth
Cliffs of Dover - Fabio Mazzo
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from Jaimee on instagram
Jon Stagg has completed the Dark Mofo Nude Solstice Swim every year since its inception. What makes someone swim nude in the middle of the Tasmanian winter? Jon has some fabulous stories - he even did it himself when the event was cancelled during covid!
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
Nude Beach - Le Blanche
Naked - Pasi Sillanpaa
Wobble - Josh Tiong
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from ABC
I'm hoping to do the Canberra version - let's see where we're at come the solstice! You'll see it on strava or twitter if I do.
If you live on the east coast of Australia, your ocean swimming season has been rudely interrupted by the weather, with swims cancelled up and down the coast because of high swells and flooding. Australia has just experienced its wettest summer for five years because of a climate cycle known as La Nina. Associate Professor Andréa Taschetto is an oceanographer and ARC Future Fellow at the Climate Change Research Centre, UNSW.
Songs in this episode - all licensed under a Creative Commons License:
La Niña Y El Lobo - Jesus Adrián Romero
La nina que yo ame - Tumi Music Ltd.
La Nina De Tus OjoS - Daniel Calveti (DJ PRE Remix)
Sapphire - Tobu
Image from hippo px
Some links from the show: Andrea on twitter, Marc on twitter, Marc on strava
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