Safe Space - The ABA Podcast

What does independence really mean for neurodiverse learners, and how can families set them up for long-term success? Host Michelle Zeman welcomes Christine Drew and Kristin Lombardi to discuss their book Spectrum of Independence, which offers families a structured yet flexible framework for building independence. They explore how small, consistent steps - like breaking down daily routines into teachable parts - can lead to big changes over time, while also addressing the challenges of burnout, resistance, and fading parental support. Listeners will gain insight into why services often fall off after age 21, why early preparation matters, and how parents can move from doing for their child to empowering them with the tools to do for themselves. The authors also highlight how teaching independence protects boundaries, supports consent, and reduces vulnerability to abuse. They also examine the risks of overprotection, the importance of teaching boundaries and consent, and the need to prepare families for the “services cliff” when supports drop off after age 21. This detailed discussion blends professional expertise with relatable family stories, making it a valuable resource for caregivers, educators, and practitioners alike. Be sure to listen out for the code words to earn 1.0 general CEU!

TRIGGER WARNING: Sexual Assault & Domestic ViolenceTrauma leaves a lasting mark — on the mind, the body, and behavior. In this heartfelt episode, host Michelle Zeman welcomes Matt Tapia, BCBA and LMFT, for a powerful discussion on recognizing and addressing trauma in ABA settings. With over 15 years of experience supporting neurodiverse children and families, Matt brings a rare combination of clinical expertise and lived experience as an autistic professional and parent of an autistic daughter currently receiving ABA services. At Hopebridge, he leads a multidisciplinary team, mentors aspiring behavior analysts, and designs individualized interventions grounded in ethical, evidence-based practices that prioritize dignity, autonomy, and meaningful outcomes. Drawing from his background in behavior analysis, marriage and family therapy, practical functional assessment, skill-based treatment, and acceptance and commitment therapy, Matt shares how trust, rapport, and family collaboration are key to lasting transformation. Listeners will gain insight into trauma-informed strategies, the importance of honoring client consent, and the value of integrating science with compassion to create inclusive, life-changing support. Be sure to listen for the 2 code words and earn 1.5 General CEUs!

What does it look like to advocate for your own learning while honoring your current role and the supervision structure around you? How do you take on new responsibilities without overstepping boundaries?In this thoughtful and informative episode, student analyst Abby Schierer joins host Michelle Zeman to explore these questions and more. As a full-time team member at To The Moon ABA Therapy and a master’s student pursuing her BCBA, Abby shares her journey from Philosophy and Ethics coursework to meaningful, hands-on clinical experiences. From navigating restricted vs. unrestricted hours to contributing to risk analysis, programming, peer review, and mock plans, Abby reflects on what it takes to build competence and confidence during fieldwork.She also dives into the importance of thoughtful feedback, strong supervisory relationships, and learning to balance initiative with professional boundaries. Whether you’re just starting out or mentoring others, this episode offers real-world insight and valuable perspective on growing within the field of ABA.Listen out for two code words provided throughout the episode to earn 1.0 Supervision CEU.

What does effective, ethical supervision look like when working with adults in crisis — not kids? In this episode, Dr. Ashley Fiorilli, PhD, BCBA, Certified Clinical Trauma Specialist, and Founder of Be Still Be Connected, LLC, joins us to unpack the unique challenges and opportunities of supervising RBTs in adult residential and crisis care settings.Together, we explore why the traditional ABA playbook — rooted in discrete trial training, compliance, and early intervention models — often fails to serve adults with complex trauma histories, psychiatric diagnoses, and co-occurring medical needs. Dr. Fiorilli shares how she integrates ACT, trauma-informed care, and relational frameworks to help RBTs build flexibility, read the room, and respond compassionately in high-stakes environments where safety and dignity must come first.We discuss the real-world gaps in RBT training when applied to adults, including navigating medical and psychiatric systems, medication management, and how to identify essential vs. non-essential demands in the moment. From recognizing a client’s “window of willingness” to letting go of power struggles in favor of trust-building, this conversation is packed with actionable strategies to help supervisors and technicians alike rethink their role through a more compassionate, human-centered lens.Whether you work in residential care, forensic settings, or anywhere adults with complex needs are served, this episode will challenge you to rethink your approach to behavior change, progress, and supervision.Listen out for the two code words to earn your free 1.0 Ethics CEU.

Join host Michelle Zeman as she reconnects with former supervisee Nick Gopaul to explore his inspiring journey through the world of Applied Behavior Analysis. From his early days navigating culture shock in the clinic as an RBT to becoming a BCaBA to his current journey through coursework to become a BCBA, Nick shares candid stories about his experience so far. Tune in to hear about building resilience, fostering empathy, and learning how ethical, collaborative supervision can shape a practitioner’s path. This episode is full of heartfelt reflections, humor (yes, slushies were thrown), and insights into what it means to truly “marinate” in your role as you grow. Listen for two code words for 1 free supervision CEU!

In this insightful episode, we talk with Nicole Stewart, BCBA, about her personal and professional journey supporting gifted children with ADHD and Autism. Nicole shares how raising her own neurodivergent child shaped the innovative, non-traditional work she does today. We explore why traditional talk therapy often misses the mark, how she uses creative tools to build emotional regulation and working memory, and why giving families a shared language is so transformative. Nicole also explains how she weaves principles from ACT and ABA into her sessions—without sticking rigidly to either—and offers powerful advice for parents just starting out on this path. If you're looking for a fresh, honest perspective on supporting neurodivergent kids, this conversation is not to be missed.

In this episode of Safe Space, host Michelle Zeman is joined by special guest Nichole Mark, BCBA, a passionate mentor and the founder of Behavior Mastered. Nichole shares her journey into the field of ABA—from initially pursuing pediatrics to discovering her calling while working alongside RBTs as a speech therapist.Nichole offers a firsthand look at how the field has evolved from compliance-driven practices to a more values-driven approach centered on empowerment and ethical mentorship. She reflects on her early experiences as an RBT, the impact of poor training standards, and the rise of unprepared practitioners entering the field under the assumption that the role is “easy.”Throughout the conversation, Nichole emphasizes the critical role BCBAs play in shaping competent, confident RBTs. She shares actionable insights on mentorship, supervision, and what companies and clinicians must do better to ensure quality care. Her story about a three-hour power struggle session offers a raw, real example of how power dynamics and training intersect—and what it means to truly support both clients and staff.This episode offers 1.0 Supervision CEU for Board Certified Behavior Analysts. Behavior analysts, be sure to listen for the two code words mentioned during the episode to claim your free CEU.

Content Warning: This episode contains discussion of racial microaggressions, workplace trauma, and explicit language. Listener discretion is advised.Join host Michelle Zeeman and BCBA Victoria Contreras as they dive deep into the ethical complexities faced by behavior analysts in the field. From confronting outdated and harmful practices to advocating for client dignity and rights, Victoria shares her personal journey unlearning toxic approaches and finding her voice amid challenging clinical situations.This episode covers crucial topics including the ethics of crisis intervention, power struggles in treatment, and the importance of self-reflection before behavior change. Perfect for ABA professionals seeking to enhance their understanding of ethical practice and navigate real-world dilemmas with integrity.Earn 1.0 Ethics CEU by listening and applying these vital lessons to your practice. Tune in for a thought-provoking discussion that challenges us all to put client well-being and ethical responsibility first.

In this episode, we sit down with a Lauren Nava, a passionate BCBA who began her career during one of the most unpredictable times—the COVID-19 pandemic. She shares how the shift to telehealth reshaped her approach to supervision, deepened her connection with families, and pushed her to get creative in delivering effective, engaging ABA services remotely. From channeling her inner “Miss Rachel” to navigating tech hiccups and building a loyal team of RBTs, this conversation offers honest insights and practical strategies for thriving in a virtual ABA world. Whether you're new to telehealth or looking to strengthen remote relationships, this episode is full of lessons you don’t want to miss.

In this episode, we sit down with Charlotte Earnhart, BCBA, and founder of Safe Sensory Sitters, to discuss the inspiration behind starting this specialized service for children with sensory needs. Charlotte shares insights on maintaining ethical standards in ABA practice, balancing the roles of business owner and service provider, and the importance of dignity and professionalism in care. We dive into navigating client boundaries, handling requests outside professional scope, and ensuring transparent marketing. Whether you're a parent, caregiver, or ABA professional, this conversation offers valuable perspectives on providing ethical and compassionate care while running a business.

In this episode of Safe Space ABA, Jessica Woolson, BCBA, certified mindfulness and social-emotional learning (SEL) facilitator, joins host Michelle Zeman, MA, BCBA, LBA, to explore the role of mindfulness, SEL, and trauma-informed care in building resilience within ABA. Drawing from her work with Breathe for Change, Jessica shares how these practices can enhance educator wellness, prevent burnout, and create more inclusive, compassionate learning environments.Together, they unpack the key differences between being trauma-aware and trauma-informed, explore the six guiding principles of trauma-informed care, and discuss practical strategies for integrating these approaches into ABA and beyond.1.0 Ethics CEU for BCBAsTune in for a thoughtful conversation on fostering well-being, equity, and human connection in behavior analysis and education.

In this episode, Michelle Zeman sits down with Miranda Irvin to explore her unique journey toward becoming a BCBA, including her experience working with four different companies during her supervision. They discuss the varied supervision styles, how these experiences shaped Miranda’s professional growth, and the skills she developed along the way. From balancing clinical work with administrative duties to navigating virtual supervision, Miranda shares valuable insights that will resonate with aspiring and newly certified BCBAs. Tune in for practical advice on mentorship, assessment tools, and how to create a meaningful supervision experience that sets you up for long-term success in the field. Plus, earn 1.0 free Supervision CEU!

In this episode of Safe Space: The ABA Podcast, Michelle Zeman speaks with Lisa Vertullo, a Certified Behavioral Sleep Specialist and Behavior Consultant at Half Hollow Hills Central School District. With a career that spans over two decades, Lisa shares her journey of working with individuals with autism and how she integrated sleep strategies into her work. She discusses the importance of a holistic approach that includes medical considerations, care coordination, and behavior analysis to address sleep challenges for neurodiverse learners. Tune in for insights on sleep assessments, strategies for success, and how to debunk common myths surrounding sleep for individuals with autism. This episode offers practical tools for families and professionals alike.

In this episode of Safe Space: The ABA Podcast, guest hosts Caroline Linfante and Jennifer Weber from KIT Educational Consulting join Michelle Zeman to explore the intersection of behavior analysis and education. They discuss the biggest challenges teachers face, strategies for balancing academic and behavioral needs, and how behavioral science can enhance student outcomes. From test scores to classroom engagement, inclusive education to cost-effective interventions, this conversation dives deep into the practical application of ABA in schools. Tune in for insights on supporting educators, improving classroom structures, and making learning more effective for all students!

In this episode, host Michelle Zeman is joined by Lindsey Lundquist, owner and founder of Blossom Behavioral Services. Together, they explore the intersection of Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA), mindfulness, and trauma-informed care, and how integrating these approaches enhances therapeutic practices.The conversation covers the role of flexible thinking and social-emotional strategies in improving client outcomes, and why addressing the nervous system is a key component of behavior therapy. They also discuss the differences between mental health counseling (MHC) and ABA, and how blending traditional counseling techniques with hands-on strategies like play-based interventions can benefit clients.Additionally, Michelle and Lindsey share their insights on the importance of parent coaching, the impact of setting small, attainable goals, and the role of mentoring future professionals to create meaningful social-emotional resources. This episode offers valuable perspectives on how evolving therapeutic models are shaping the future of behavior therapy.

In this episode, we’re joined by Michelle Vinokurov, an inspiring autistic self-advocate, behavior specialist, and advocate for neurodiversity. Diagnosed with autism at the age of 2, Michelle has made it her mission to support and empower the neurodiverse community throughout her life and career.Michelle earned her bachelor's degree in Psychology with a concentration in Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA) in 2022, and now works full-time as a behavior specialist for a public school district. There, she collaborates with educators to create individualized behavior plans for neurodiverse students, enhancing their quality of life and fostering inclusive learning environments.In addition to her work in the school district, Michelle plays a key role at Full Spectrum ABA, where she serves as a Board Certified Behavior Analyst Assistant (BCaBA), blogger, and Co-Director of the Autism Inclusion Program. She also runs The World of Autism blog, where she shares her experiences growing up with autism, advocates for the neurodiverse community, and highlights the voices of fellow advocates and changemakers.Join us for an insightful conversation about navigating life with autism, advocating for inclusion, and the power of individualized support in education and beyond.

In this episode of Safe Space: The ABA Podcast, host Michelle sits down with Maria Capiris, owner of Piece by Piece Billing Solutions, LLC, to discuss the often-complicated world of ABA billing. Maria, an expert in billing for ABA therapy, created the "New Provider Toolkit" to help new and smaller practices navigate the complex billing landscape. Maria shares her journey of developing the toolkit, the key challenges she faced, and the crucial topics every new ABA provider should understand to keep their billing accurate and efficient.Throughout the conversation, Maria delves into common billing pitfalls, including the impact of modifiers on reimbursement rates, the importance of credentialing across different insurance carriers, and the critical role of verifying insurance benefits. She also covers how to effectively manage claim denials, the significance of billing primary and secondary insurance in the correct order (including the "birthday rule"), and the benefits of outsourcing billing to streamline processes. Maria offers practical advice for providers, along with recommendations for software tools that can make a big difference in workflow efficiency.This episode is a must-listen for anyone looking to better understand ABA billing, avoid common mistakes, and ensure consistent cash flow in their practice. Plus, Maria gives us a glimpse into future resources and updates to the toolkit that will continue to support providers in their billing journey.

In this inspiring episode of Safe Space: The ABA Podcast, we chat with Monica, the founder and BCBA behind Creative Minds ABA Services Inc., a practice that is redefining the way we approach Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). Monica’s innovative and compassionate approach goes beyond traditional ABA therapy by focusing not just on behaviors but also on the emotional states, thoughts, and individuality of each child. Through her unique Happy Relaxed Engaged (HRE) model, she empowers children to thrive in environments that are tailored to foster growth and development. Monica shares how her personal experiences and passion for underserved communities have shaped her practice, particularly in supporting Medicaid families who face financial challenges. Creative Minds is dedicated to providing neurodiversity-affirming care, helping marginalized families access essential services, and offering support that extends far beyond therapy—including assistance with utilities, groceries, and community outreach. In this episode, we dive into how Creative Minds creates a whole child approach, balancing ABA therapy with empathy, while also offering valuable supervision for other BCBAs. Monica discusses the importance of collaboration with other professionals, including SLPs, OTs, and sensory integration therapists, to create a truly integrated care model. Join us for an inspiring conversation about the power of giving back, the need for neurodiversity-affirming practices, and how one woman’s vision is making a tangible impact in the lives of children and families in marginalized communities.

In Episode 17 of Safe Space, host Michelle Zeman, MA, BCBA, LBA (@theautisticbehavioranalyst), explores the critical ethical considerations surrounding feeding interventions for children with autism with Valori Neiger, an Autism Feeding Specialist. Feeding difficulties are prevalent in the autism community, affecting up to 80% of children on the spectrum. Despite this high incidence, there is a significant shortage of Board Certified Behavior Analysts (BCBAs) who specialize in this vital area.Valori shares her experiences from her early work in the FA lab and feeding clinic, illustrating how these settings shaped her interest and understanding of feeding challenges. The episode delves into the importance of interdisciplinary collaboration, the latest advancements in positive reinforcement strategies, and the concept of food flexibility—an essential goal in addressing feeding issues for children with autism.Join us for this insightful discussion, where you’ll learn about practical strategies and ethical considerations in feeding interventions. Don't miss your chance to earn 1.0 free Ethics CEU—be sure to listen for the two code words! Resources & Links:Valori Neiger's Website: Autism Feeding SpecialistValori Neiger's Instagram: @autismfeedingspecialist

In Season 2, Episode 16 of Safe Space, host Michelle Zeman, MA, BCBA, LBA (@theautisticbehavioranalyst), welcomes Carly Donnelly, MEd, CCC-SLP, BCBA, LBA, for an insightful discussion on Gestalt Language Processing (GLP) and its intersection with Applied Behavior Analysis (ABA). Carly, one of only 500 SLP-BCBAs worldwide, brings her unique perspective as both a professional and an autistic individual. Her expertise in AAC, complex communication needs, and GLP provides a fresh look at how neurodiversity-affirming approaches can reshape ABA practices. In this episode, Carly shares her journey, from her autism diagnosis to how GLP has influenced her communication and language development. The conversation delves into the cognitive processes behind GLP, the challenges of aligning ABA practices with neurodiversity-affirming approaches, and how traditional views of language development are being challenged by the work of researchers like Marge Blanc and Alexandria Zachos. Listeners will also hear Carly’s thoughts on the criticisms of GLP within the ABA community and her advocacy for alternative forms of evidence, like naturalistic studies and clinical observations. Tune in to discover how Carly envisions the future integration of GLP in ABA frameworks and her advice for neurodivergent BCBAs looking to create more inclusive practices.