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Gift a Magnum subscription to a friend or enemy for 1/2 off! That’s just $24 from Dec 1-31.  A recent widow grapples with a surge in her libido. A gay man has been a top for all of his sexual life. Now that's he's a dating a man who wants to top him every now and again, can he learn to like it? On the Magnum, Dan chats with Kelly Foster Lundquist, Author of "Beard." 20 years after her divorce from her closeted gay husband, Lundquist writes about her experience as a "beard." She and Dan discuss how unfair and damaging the closet can be. After 10 glorious days, a straight man got dumped and then ghosted. Which hurts more? Ouch Q@Savage.Love. 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Beducated, the leading platform for pleasure-based sex education for adults. Go to Beducated.com and use the code SAVAGE for 65% a yearly pass.  This episode is brought to you by Hims, providing affordable access to ED treatment, online. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/Savage. This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From beards to bondage to bisexuality, and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is a cultural force for sex positivity, in these darkest of dark times.

Hear the harrowing tale of the masochist lad who walked into the dungeon and ended up getting flogged...a lot. Did he like it? Would he do it again? Listen and find out. Do you have a tale to tell? Write it up and send it in: Q@Savage.Love Do you have a comment for this show? Record it and send it in to Q@Savage.Love, or call 206-302-2064 It's the Magnum Gift sale Dec 1–31! Gift a Magnum subscription to a friend or enemy at 50% off, just $24! Savage.love/gift. Who is Dan Savage? Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From polyamory, to BDSM, gay rights to sexual health and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has been cultural force for sex positivity since the 1800s.

It's the Magnum Gift sale Dec 1–31! Gift a Magnum subscription to a friend or enemy at 50% off, just $24! Savage.love/gift. Listen in on Dan's conversation with a woman who learned that her husband had an affair early in their relationship. It turns out she's been chatting with the other woman for a year without knowing it was her! She lives up the street! Dan advises her on whether to broach the subject with her husband's ex-lover. A woman loves receiving anal sex so much, that she comes immediately and then needs her husband to get outta there. How can she prolong both of their pleasure? On the Magnum, Mpox cases are on the rise worldwide. Dan brings on queer sexual health teacher Dr. Carlton Thomas to give us the scoop. He was a clear and steady source of information during the first Mpox outbreak, and he's here guide us today. Finally, a middle-aged straight man who "broad"casts his feminist allyship on social media has a gaggle of younger women he's collected from his comments section who all expressed interest in him. He *may* want to try to commit to one of them, but doesn't want to make mistakes from his past. If he chooses just one, how can he "not get bored and fuck it all up?" 206-302-2064 Q@Savage.Love This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 27% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  This episode is brought to you by Blueland. Going eco has never been easier. Revolutionary, refillable cleaning essentials eliminating single-use plastic. Right now,  get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/Savage This episode is brought to you by Overload by Maxxm: supplements that leave a lasting impression in the bedroom. For a discount go to maxxm.com/savage. Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From polyamory, to BDSM, gay rights to sexual health and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has been cultural force for sex positivity since the 1800s.

Meet Chrissy, a bisexual woman and self-identified pervert, who went to a sex club for the first time. What happened there? Well, let's just say you may feel...shocked. Want to tell your tale? Write us at Q@Savage.Love Want to hear more from Dan Savage? Listen to the Savage Lovecast @Savage.Love. Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From polyamory, to BDSM, gay rights to sexual health and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has been cultural force for sex positivity since the 1800s.

We know you're struggling. So we brought in the most soothing human on the planet-Therapy Jeff- to offer tips on how to get through Thanksgiving with your nasty family. In short, don't take the bait, find your family buddy, and if you are alone on the holiday, get yourself to a gay bar. Also, a woman who considers herself bad in bed wonders how she can find a "sex teacher." And, a woman wonders if she has her sub drink her pee while she is on SSRIs, will he ingest her meds? "Gobble" it up! Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Carafem, an abortion and reproductive healthcare provider that offers both in person care in Atlanta, Chicago, Washington DC and telehealth options for abortion pills by mail in 20 states. Carafem’s team of licensed medical professionals provide personalized abortion care options focused on your needs, preferences, and values. Visit Carafem.org to learn more. This episode is brought to you by Feeld, a dating app where the open-minded can meet the like-minded. Download Feeld on the App Store or Google Play.

On this weeks After Action Report, Dan spoke with Milo, a trans man who tried nipple torture after getting top surgery. This is a joyful tale of sexual recovery. We hope you enjoy it. We would very much like to hear about YOUR freaky funtimes. Write about your new sexual experience and send it to Q@Savage.Love with the subject line "After Action Report." We'll get in touch! Do you like this? Yeah you do. There's more of this sort of thing at the Savage Lovecast, Dan Savage's advice show. Listen up at Savage.Love or wherever you get your podcasts

She dated her neighbor for a while, until it became clear that she couldn’t enjoy sex with him because his giant, massive, gargantuan penis was too big for her. Now that she is starting to date other men, should she tell them the history of her friendly neighbor 5 doors down? A woman has enjoyed friends-with-benefits relationship with a man where all they do is cuddle and have sex. No outings with friends. No movies. No hikes. Now that he is beginning to get serious with another woman, can they maintain this friendship *without* the benefits? On the Magnum, a very miserable woman considers doing sex work after applying for hundreds of jobs with no results. Dan brings on Ashley Bloomberg- a sex researcher who recently published a paper on the reasons sex workers in Las Vegas pursued their careers. The difference between doing sex work under duress vs. doing sex work out of genuine desire is stark. And, it’s the nightmare scenario: A queer, polyamorous woman dating a trans woman has a 14 year-old son who has gone full conservative Christian on her. The lad thinks that sex outside of marriage is an unforgivable sin. What is going on with him, and how can the caller bring him to a more kind and reasonable mindset? Call with your questions, or you will be banished to the lake of fire. Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Hims, providing affordable access to ED treatment, online. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/Savage. This episode is brought to you by Aura Frames, the best digital picture frame, and the best gift EVER. For a limited time, visit AuraFrames.com and get $45 off Aura’s best-selling Carver Mat frames by using promo code SAVAGE at checkout. This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 27% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From bondage to bisexuality, cuckolding to crossdressing and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is a cultural force for sex positivity, when we most need it.

For this After Action Report, Dan chats with Ember, a life-long sneeze fetishist. She gets turned on when her lovers sneeze, and thus, stocks up on imported sneezing powder. And although she prefers being a sneezing dom, she also delved into submission and share the details. Hear about her journey. We would very much like to hear about YOUR journey. Write about your new sexual experience and send it to Q@Savage.Love with the subject line "After Action Report." We'll get in touch! Do you like this? Yeah you do. There's more of this sort of thing at the Savage Lovecast, Dan Savage's advice show. Listen up at Savage.Love or wherever you get your podcasts

A mother's challenge: her 12 year-old son's lesbian friend (who isn't out to her parents,) said that she was into gooning. Right in front of her! The mom wants to be an ally, but also would like them to back off on the oversharing. Sometimes on a sex advice podcast, you have to call a veterinarian. A man's new girlfriend, (a professed "animal lover,") lets the cat hump her leg to completion. He thinks this is kind of gross. Dan brings on a veterinarian from Seattle's Urban Animal to confirm if it is indeed "gross." On the Magnum, we all know that LENGTH DOES NOT MATTER. But what about... girth? Sex researcher Dr. Debby Herbenick is on to talk about the physiology of female pleasure. Also, she and Dan discuss the continuing bewildering popularity of choking. A woman has a fantastic, indulgent, skilled lover. She is loud but non-verbal when she comes. He wants to know exactly when she is going over the falls. How can she let him know without having to say "NOW!" You should ask Dan a question NOW! Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Erika Lust.com -the world’s leading platform for ethical, cinematic adult films. Right now, my listeners get 45% off your subscription when you enter the code SAVAGE45 at erikalust.com. That’s Erika Lust with a k! Foria is an all natural health & sexual wellness company with product lines using the power of plant actives & CBD to effectively enhance intimacy, sexual pleasure, daily wellbeing, and relief from discomfort. Get 20% off your first order by visiting ForiaWellness.com/Savage This episode is brought to you by Carafem, an abortion and reproductive healthcare provider that offers both in person care in Atlanta, Chicago, Washington DC and telehealth options for abortion pills by mail in 20 states. Carafem’s team of licensed medical professionals provide personalized abortion care options focused on your needs, preferences, and values. Visit Carafem.org to learn more. Subscribe to the Magnum⁠ for the full interviews, chats with Dan, and more! Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From polyamory, to pegging, gay rights to gooning and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has been cultural force for sex positivity since the 1800s.

After Action Report #3 Squirting Kira This week, meet a woman who finally, after YEARS of persistence, has learned how to squirt. Practice makes perfect, and now she has mastered the messy art. Hear all about how she got there, what she plans for her squirting future, and "Is female ejaculate actually pee?" Kira ends the controversy definitively. Have you gotten out of (or into) your comfort zone? Write us at Q@Savage.Love with the subject line: After Action Report, and we might get back to you. Do you like this? Yeah you do. There's more of this sort of thing at the Savage Lovecast, Dan Savage's advice show. Listen up at Savage.Love or wherever you get your podcasts

A woman's bisexual husband has been getting "gayer and gayer" to the point where he is only interested in her if she acts like a dude. Her friend is worried about her. How can this marriage work? Are there any straight leather daddies out there who aren't misogynistic creeps? This caller is NOT HAPPY. On the Magnum, it's a "What You Got" with psychology professor Dr. Justin Mogilski. His study on people who maintain friendships with their exes was misinterpreted and misused. He and Dan talk about why the myths persist, and about his new study looking at the ingredients that make open relationships work. And, a newly out femme lesbian loves her long, detailed, luscious nails. But for obvious reasons, she thinks she should probably trim a couple of them. Will people notice? Rrrrwwwworrrr! Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 20% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Blueland. Going eco has never been easier. Revolutionary, refillable cleaning essentials eliminating single-use plastic. Right now,  get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/Savage Subscribe to Magnum⁠ for the full interviews, chats with Dan, and more! Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From polyamory, to BDSM, gay rights to pegging and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has been cultural force for sex positivity since the 1800s.

On this week's After Action Report, a trans man made his way to his first furry party. He doesn't have a full suit yet, just paws, ears and a tail. For those in full fur suits, you might be wondering: How do they, you know...do it? You'll have to listen for this detail. Do YOU have a.. ahem...tail...to share of a new sexual experience? Write us at Q@Savage.Love with the subject line: After Action Report, and we might get back to you. Do you like this? Yeah you do. There's more of this sort of thing at the Savage Lovecast, Dan Savage's advice show. Listen up at Savage.Love or wherever you get your podcasts. Call the Lovecast: 206-302-2064 Send a prerecorded question to: Q@Savage.Love

A woman's lefty friend berated her for enjoying drag, saying it's like blackface for trans women. The caller loves drag and had never thought about this before. Is it true? A straight man loves the idea of seeing a naked woman walking around her house. He wonders if others would love to see him naked, you know, just kickin' it at home. On the Magnum, let the swooning begin! Actor Ben Palacios from Palm Royale is charming, talented and easy on the eyes. He relays his tales of kissing Ricky Martin, and making a fool of himself in front of Carol Burnett. Dan and Ben share their first boyfriend experiences, and advise a straight couple who are arguing over the man's ball scratching habit. Also, should a straight man take poppers before his proctology exam? And dating new divorcees: Bad idea, or not a problem? Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Hims, providing affordable access to ED treatment, online. Start your free online visit today at ⁠Hims.com/Savage⁠. This episode is brought to you by Feeld, a dating app where the open-minded can meet the like-minded. Download Feeld on the⁠ App Store⁠ or ⁠Google Play⁠. This episode is brought to you by Erika Lust.com -the world’s leading platform for ethical, cinematic adult films. Right now, my listeners get 45% off your subscription when you enter the code SAVAGE45 at ⁠erikalust.com⁠. That’s Erika Lust with a k! Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project as well as the ⁠Hump! Film Festival⁠. From bondage to bisexuality, cuckolding to crossdressing and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is a cultural force for sex positivity, when we most need it.

Welcome to our first stand-alone After-Action Report! He got in a full body spiderman suit. And then the action began. Hear Dan chat with the man who took cos-play to a whole new level. If YOU recently had a new sexual experience (good or bad,) write it up and send it in to Q@Savage.Love with the subject line: After Action Report. Ask Dan a question!Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 EVERY TUESDAY: Get more of Dan on Savage Lovecast Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From abortion to adult babies, polyamory to pegging and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is positively a force for sex positivity.

A woman just started a dating a man 12 years her junior. But he doesn't know her age, and has never asked her, even on her birthday. Should she tell him? A couple were approached by a man who initiated a relationship where he is their sex slave. But he is a very demanding slave, sending too many texts, and generally violating their boundaries. He pays them for their attentions. So who's the boss here? Dan welcomes Imani Askew-Shabazz from PlanCPills.org on the show to talk about abortion medication by mail. On the Magnum, Dan loves it when scientists affirm what he's been saying for years. In this "What You Got?" we welcome Dr. Amy Muise, Psychology and Research Chair in Relationships and Sexuality at York University. They talk about spontaneous vs. planned or scheduled sex. Which do you think is more satisfying? And, a woman with fragrance sensitivity has trouble convincing her friends and family to give the stinky cologne a rest. Ask Dan a question! Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Liberator: makers of pillows, shapes and furniture for new exciting sex. Go to Liberator.com/Savage or type “Savage” into the search bar for private VIP access to deals that are too good to announce on this podcast! This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 20% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From abortion to adult babies, polyamory to pegging and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is positively a force for sex positivity.

Compare and contrast these two body image calls: A woman's boyfriend is so insecure about his big body, that he can't get hard. She thinks he's hot as can be but can't seem to convince him of this. Meanwhile, a man finds that most of the women he meets in his open relationship dating community are too fat for him. Where can he find some skinny chicks into non-monogamy? Is there a top shortage? Not enough tops? Should we panic? Where are they??? On the Magnum, learn all about pup play with Amp! Amp is a Producer, streamer and co-creator of the kink educational channel "Watts The Safeword." He and Dan chat about the difference between light-hearted rolling-around-on-the-floor type pup play vs. hardcore BDSM pup play. They also talk about how very unwelcome children are at Folsom, and learn all about Locktober! (If you aren't already celebrating, as Amp is.) And, guncle to the rescue! A man living in South America has a 12 year-old great nephew, who he is convinced is gay. The poor kid lives in blood red Trump country in a conservative family. The caller worries that if he isn't subtle enough in his outreach to this boy, that he'll out him, and all hell will break loose. Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Erika Lust.com -the world’s leading platform for ethical, cinematic adult films. Right now, Lovecast listeners get 45% off your subscription when you enter the code SAVAGE45 at erikalust.com. Foria is an all natural health & sexual wellness company with product lines using the power of plant actives & CBD to effectively enhance intimacy, sexual pleasure, daily wellbeing, and relief from discomfort. Get 20% off your first order by visiting ForiaWellness.com/Savage When it’s too late for Plan B, abortion pills are a medically safe way to end a pregnancy. They’ve been around for decades, they’re recommended for use up to 13 weeks to safely end a pregnancy, and today people are getting them by mail in all 50 states. They are also getting them delivered in advance, to store at home in case of future need. Visit PlanCPills.Org to learn more. This message is offered as a public service of the Savage Lovecast and Plan C, a 10-year old nonprofit initiative.

A woman and her boyfriend, (in an open relationship) tried shibari and enjoyed the intimacy of it. She suggested they exclusively practice shibari with each other, unlike all the other sexual activities they do with their other lovers. At first he agreed, but now he's balking. Should she try to make this a rule of their relationship, or cut him free to t ie up other women? Can semen be safely employed as a sexual lubricant? Our guest this week is a true delight. From Season 12 of Ru Paul's Drag Race, it's the Persian Princess of Drag- Jackie Cox! She and Dan talk about getting in the drag head space, being friends with your partner, and did you know that the queens from Drag race have a group chat? They do! A little is on the Micro, and the whole thing is on the Magnum. And, a straight woman loves to process and have drawn out heart-to-heart talks about her relationships with her boyfriends to the point where they are exhausted and can't take it anymore. She is single now and wonders how to make it clear in her profile that she wants a man who can go hard on communication. Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 27% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  This episode is brought to you by Hims, providing affordable access to ED treatment, online. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/Savage. Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From anal sex to asexuality, weddings to webcamming and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is a cultural force for sex positivity, when we most need it.

How can a woman safely indulge her kink when the thing that turns her on is fear? A man is convinced that his bidet use makes him pee more. Our long suffering, patient and kind medical expert, Doc Barak is back to sigh heavily and pretend to take the question seriously. Also, can we trust the CDC these days? On the Magnum, the concept is simple. A man with a beautiful British accent reads erotica while jacking it to high heaven. Meet Matthew Kane, host and creator of the BigDickBookClub. He and Dan talk about erotica for men vs women, Bluesky vs X and why AI generated erotica is inferior to the real thing. And to prove it, Dan generates some relevant AI smut on the spot and Matthew reads it. For us! Hear the tale of the man with the "scratched up pecker." Q@Savage.Love. 206-302-2064 This episode is brought to you by Blueland. Going eco has never been easier. Revolutionary, refillable cleaning essentials eliminating single-use plastic. Right now,  get 15% off your first order by going to Blueland.com/Savage Practice love every day with Paired, the #1 app for couples. Download the app at Paired.com/SAVAGE Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, world traveller and creator of the It Gets Better Project. From AI generated porn (bad) to human-generated porn (good,) wife swapping to watersports and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage is a cultural force for sex positivity, when we most need it.

Enter to win a free Magnum subscription at savage.love/survey A gay man is lucky to be in a throuple relationship. But he worries that he's having too much sex, and thinking about sex so much that it's distracting him at work. Is he a sex addict? What can he do to cool his fevered libido? A strong, confident woman likes casual hook-ups. Her friends joke that she is "a boy on the inside." Her (and our) question is: What is wrong with these people??!! How can she get them to stop, and consider how misogynist this is? Our guest this week is Elise Loehnen, the New York Times bestselling author of "On Our Best Behavior: The Seven Deadly Sins and the Price Women Pay to be Good." She is also the host of the podcast, "Pulling the Thread." She and Dan talk about the role that envy plays in the scrutiny of women, slut shaming, lust, and how to work on our relationships with right-wingers. They had a lot to talk about! Some of it is on the Micro, the whole thing is on the Magnum. A woman's new boyfriend was sexually abused by his previous girlfriend. He felt pressured by her to have sex, and it's resulted in his being unable to get hard for the caller. She worries her own excitement will be interpreted as pressure. How can they create safe, loving intimacy as he gets over the previous toxicity? This episode is brought to you by Squarespace. They make it easy to build a website or blog. Give it a whirl at Squarespace.com/Savage and if you want to buy it, use the code Savage for a 10% off your first purchase. This episode is brought to you by Helix Sleep. Right now, Helix is offering 27% off site wide. Go to HelixSleep.com/Savage. With Helix, better sleep starts now.  This episode is brought to you by Feeld, a dating app where the open-minded can meet the like-minded. Download Feeld on the App Store or Google Play. Got a Q? Dan's got an A. Q@Savage.Love 206-302-2064 Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project and high-volume producer of cultural neologisms. Santorum, pegging, GGG, tolyamory, monogamish! Dan came up with them and Dan can take them away.

A man in a poly triad has a girlfriend. His girlfriend has a boyfriend, and they all live together, share a dog, and plan to have kids. The caller and the other guy will be at a wedding full of normies who don't know the nature of their relationship. Should he just say they're a gay couple? Or explain the whole poly thing? He can't eat gluten. His boyfriend eats a lot of gluten. Can he eat his boyfriend's come? On the Magnum, we are delighted to welcome back Gianmarco Soresi to the show. The stand-up comedian, shares tales of being a straight man in theater camp as a youth, and a straight man at Fire Island as an adult. He and Dan talk about how to be both a dom AND and a power bottom. And, here's a mind hack for gay actors who have to kiss a lady: pretend she is a watermelon. A man discovered his kinky side with his then-girlfriend. Now that they are broken up, he is sure to see her with her new boyfriend, a pillar in kink scene of their town. How can he learn to go to the munches with his head held high? This episode is brought to you by Hims, providing affordable access to ED treatment, online. Start your free online visit today at Hims.com/Savage. This episode is brought to you by Erika Lust.com -the world’s leading platform for ethical, cinematic adult films. Right now, my listeners get 45% off your subscription when you enter the code SAVAGE45 at erikalust.com. That’s Erika Lust with a K! This episode is brought to you by VB Health, Doctor-formulated supplements that work . To learn more about Load Boost, Drive Boost and Soaking Wet and to get 10% off, visit ⁠VB.Health⁠ when you use the code Savage. Dan Savage is a sex-advice columnist, podcaster, author, and creator of the It Gets Better Project. Fearlessly plumbing the depths of anal sex, fighting against the forces of jealousy, a champion for body positivity, and with a dose of progressive politics, Dan Savage has had a LOT to say, lo these many years. If only they would listen.