See You In Court

When the rule of law comes under attack, who speaks up? In Georgia, more than 400 lawyers have come together to form Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law — the only statewide group dedicated to defending judges, lawyers, and the integrity of our justice system. In this powerful episode of See You In Court, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate welcome Seth Kirschenbaum and Lynne Borsuk to share: Why they launched this nonpartisan effort How threats against judges and law firms erode confidence in justice What ordinary citizens and lawyers alike can do to protect due process Their message is clear: justice is not partisan — it’s the foundation of our democracy. 👉 Listen to more episodes here on Podbean and via our website at SeeYouInCourtPodcast.org #seeyouincourt #ruleoflaw #georgialawyers #civiljustice Seth Kirschenbaum is a criminal defense attorney here in Atlanta with 50 years experience. He is an owner of his own firm Lotito & Kirschenbaum. He is extremely well known in the Atlanta Bar being a Past President of the Atlanta Bar Association and serving on the State Bar Board of Governors since 2004. He is a former Federal Prosecutor. He is the recipient of the 2008 Charles E Watkins Jr. Award for Distinguished & Sustained Service by Atlanta Bar Association and of the 2011 Randolph Thrower Lifetime Achievement Award. He has an award named after him, the Multi-Bar Leadership Council’s “Seth D. Kirschenbaum Diversity Award.” He received his B.A. from  State University of New York at Binghamton, Binghamton, New York and received his J.D. from Emory University School of Law. Lynne Borsuk is also a criminal defense attorney here in Atlanta. She is the owner of her own law firm, the LYNNE Y. BORSUK CRIMINAL DEFENSE AND WHITE-COLLAR CRIME law firm. Lynne is an experienced trial lawyer with 38 years of experience as an attorney in the courtrooms of Georgia. She focuses on criminal defense and white-collar matters with a strong emphasis on the trial phase of legal advocacy. Lynne was selected by her peers as a top trial lawyer and named a Fellow of the American College of Trial Lawyers and as a fellow of the American Board of  Criminal Lawyers.  Lynne has served as the President of the Georgia Association for Criminal Defense Lawyers. Lynne is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Indigent Defense Award from Georgia Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers, Women of Achievement Award, Jewish Federation of Atlanta for work with ADL and the Leadership Award .The Atlanta Bar Association. She received her B.A., Political Science, 1983 from Emory University and her J.D. 1986 from the University of Florida College of Law. Links: Protect the integrity of our legal system - Georgia Lawyers for the Rule of Law Lester Tate - http://www.akintate.com/ Robin Frazer Clark - https://www.gatriallawyers.net/ See You In Court -  seeyouincourtpodcast.org To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit fairplay.org

What do Canadians find most surprising about the U.S. legal system? In this clip, we discuss some of the biggest differences between the two countries’ approaches to justice. From the Second Amendment to the election of judges, hear why certain aspects of American law simply don’t “compute” for Canadian lawyers. 📺 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A 🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/ #SeeYouInCourtPodcast #CivilJustice #LegalDifferences

In this short clip, Dean Ian Holloway recalls his sabbatical at Samford University in Birmingham—Judge Dillard’s alma mater—and reflects on the cultural ties between Canadians and the American South.  “Canadians aren’t more polite than Southerners… Southerners are traditionally thought of as being just as gracious.”  👉 Check out the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A 🎧 Listen on Podbean: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/

Did you know a Ford car can cross the U.S.-Canada border up to 10 times before it’s finished? In this clip, Professor Ian Holloway underscores the deep integration between our economies and why cooperation is critical for both nations. He also raises concerns about a troubling perception shift—Canada as a greater threat than China or Russia. 🎙️ Listen to the full conversation here: https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/

As climate change reshapes the Arctic, the Northwest Passage has become a flashpoint. Russia and China are pressing for freedom of navigation, raising urgent questions about sovereignty, security, and defense spending. Professor Ian Holloway, veteran and former Dean of Law at the University of Calgary, shares why Canada must step up alongside the U.S. to safeguard shared maritime resources. 🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/in-conversation-with-ian-holloway-kc-the-undeniable-relationship-between-canada-and-the-united-states/ Explore more episodes at: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/

During the New York Bar Exam, a test-taker suffered a massive heart attack. EMTs performed CPR and used a defibrillator—while proctors refused to stop the test. Students who tried to help were told they would not receive extra time. Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate call this incident “disturbing” and question whether the bar exam has gone too far, prioritizing rigid rules over human compassion. This clip comes from our full interview with Professor Ian Holloway, where we examine law, justice, and the values that must guide our profession. 🎥 Watch the full conversation on YouTube: https://youtu.be/BXCnSHSSd6A 🎧 Listen to the full episode on Podbean: https://mcdn.podbean.com/mf/web/gs5qjdd93du7snf2/See_You_In_Court-_Ian_Hollowayauydt.mp3 🔗 Visit us online: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/ #BarExam #LegalEthics #SeeYouInCourt #CivilJustice

What’s the connection between Halifax, the White House, and “The Star-Spangled Banner”? 🇨🇦🇺🇸 In this clip, Dean Ian Holloway shares how Canadian forces shaped U.S. history during the War of 1812, leaving a lasting mark on America’s capital — and even its anthem. Listen to the full conversation in Episode 50 of See You In Court and explore how our histories are more connected than you think. #SeeYouInCourt #CivilJustice #LegalHistory #CanadaUS

In this episode clip from See You In Court, Professor Ian Holloway tells the fascinating story of Calixa Lavallée—a French-Canadian who fought in the war, witnessed its horrors, and turned his experience into the poem that became O Canada. A reminder that history, law, and culture are more connected than we often realize. 🔗 Learn more at https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/ 👀 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@seeyouincourtpodcast?sub_confirmation=1 📲 Follow us on Facebook and LinkedIn for more stories from the Georgia civil justice system. #SeeYouInCourt #Canada #USCivilWar #History

Never in a million years would anyone expect Canada to be seen as a greater threat to the United States than Russia or China. Yet, as Professor Ian Holloway explains in this clip, that perception has emerged in recent years. Holloway reflects on the long history of cooperation between the two countries—from Canada sheltering thousands of Americans on 9/11 to sending firefighters during California’s wildfires. His reminder is simple but powerful: nations, like people, accomplish more with cooperation than with conflict. 👉 Listen now to hear why the U.S.–Canada relationship matters more than ever. Full episode available at: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/ #SeeYouInCourt #CivilJustice #CanadaUS #RuleOfLaw

Professor Ian Holloway joins Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate to discuss the legal, historical, and economic connections between Canada and the United States—and why civility still matters in the pursuit of justice. Highlights include: Why U.S. and Canadian legal systems feel so familiar—and where they diverge. Stories from the War of 1812, WWII, and modern trade alliances. Canada’s unique role as Georgia’s #1 trading partner. Ian’s definition of justice as a shared duty.   Guest Bio Ian Holloway was the Dean of Law at the University of Calgary from 2011 to 2024.   Prior to this, Ian served as dean at another Canadian law school (Western Ontario?), and as associate dean at the Australian National University. Over the years, he has also held appointments at Cambridge and the National University of Singapore. He is a graduate of Dalhousie University, the University of California at Berkeley and the Australian National University. He is also an alumnus of the Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University and the John F Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University. He is widely-published, both in Canada and around the world. In addition, he has published a book on naval history as well as many essays or other pieces in various legal and non-legal periodicals. He has been a regular columnist for Canadian Lawyer Magazine for a number of years.   Before beginning his academic career, Ian spent a number of years in private practice in Halifax with the Atlantic Canadian law firm of McInnes Cooper, where he focused on labour and employment law. He also served as the law clerk to the chief justice of the Federal Court of Appeal. In 2003, Ian was elected to membership in the American Law Institute, a distinction that is held by only a handful of Canadians. In 2004, he was appointed Queen’s Counsel. In 2007, he chaired the review of legal education in Oman. In 2013-14, Ian served as the legal education and  raining team leader for the Canadian Bar Association’s Futures project. In 2018, he was elected a Fellow of the  College of Law Practice Management, the first Canadian legal academic to be so honoured.   Ian is a member of the Nova Scotia Barristers'  Society, the Law Society of Ontario, the Law Society of Alberta and the Canadian Bar Association. He is currently a Trustee of the NALP Foundation, and formerly served for eight years as a Trustee of the Law School Admission Council. He served as a Governor of the Southern Alberta Division of the Canadian Corps of Commissionaires. He was a member of the Advisory Council to the Minister of Heritage on the Commemoration of the War of 1812, and he served as a member of the vice-regal selection committee for the Lieutenant Governor of Alberta. In 2015, he was appointed to the National Security and Intelligence Review Agency, and made a member of the King’s Privy Council for Canada.   Beyond the legal sphere, Ian spent a total of twenty-five years serving in the Royal Canadian and Royal Australian Navies. Ian has received numerous awards in his career, including Queen Elizabeth II Diamond Jubilee Medal in 2013, the Commemorative Medal for the 125th Anniversary of Canadian Confederation in 1992, the Canadian Forces Decoration in 1989, and the Queen Elizabeth II Platinum Jubilee Medal (Alberta) in 2022. Links: Ian Holloway | UCalgary Profiles | University of Calgary Lester Tate: http://www.akintate.com/ Robin Frazer Clark: https://www.gatriallawyers.net/ See You In Court (seeyouincourtpodcast.org) To learn more about the Georgia Civil Justice Foundation, visit fairplay.org

Attorney McCracken Poston warns against confusing justice with revenge. In this short clip, he reflects on how public opinion can misinterpret acquittals and court outcomes, reshaping the meaning of justice. This moment comes from Episode 49: What Is Justice? Part 3 of the See You In Court podcast, where more than 50 legal voices share their perspective on the ultimate question: What is justice? Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

In this See You In Court short, attorney Andy Rogers explains why justice is best described as a verb—something that happens when juries and settlements reflect the truth and treat clients fairly. From empowering juries to decide on complex cases to reaching settlements that leave clients feeling heard, Andy reminds us that justice takes many forms. 🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

In this excerpt from See You In Court’s annual “What Is Justice?” compilation, Ivy Cadle reminds us that justice isn’t always about the end result — it’s about ensuring everyone has an equal opportunity to participate in the process. She discusses how access to resources, regulatory reform, and the fairness of the journey are just as important as the verdict itself. 📌 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

What does justice really feel like? In this short clip from See You In Court, attorney Andrew Rogers shares the story of a vulnerable client who, despite the odds, found closure and dignity through a well-negotiated settlement — not a trial. For Andrew, justice means making sure every client feels heard, no matter the outcome. 🎧 Listen to the full episode: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/ 🔗 Explore more: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org

In this short clip, William Gentry uses a vivid analogy to explain the difference between justice, mercy, and grace—turning a speeding ticket into a story you won’t forget. Catch the full conversation in Episode 49 of the See You In Court Podcast, featuring nearly 50 unique answers to the question: What is justice? Listen here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

In this clip, Judge Alvin T. Wong defines justice as fairness, an equal chance to be heard, and treatment without bias or favoritism. This is one of nearly 50 perspectives shared in our special episode, “What is Justice? – Part 3,” where Georgia’s legal leaders reflect on how teamwork, accountability, and equal access to courts define true justice. 🎧 Listen to the full episode → https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/2025/07/29/episode-49-what-is-justice-part-3/

Justice means something different to everyone—and that’s exactly what makes it powerful. In Part 3 of our See You In Court series, hosts Robin Frazer Clark and Lester Tate bring together over some unique answers to the question we ask every guest: What is justice? From courtroom teamwork to fairness in family law, access to legal processes, and holding decision-makers accountable—this episode delivers a diverse range of perspectives from Georgia’s top legal minds. 🎙️ Highlights include: McCracken Poston on justice vs. revenge Judge Alvin T. Wong on fairness and equal treatment Ivy Cadle on access to justice and regulatory reform William Gentry on protecting children in family law Joyce Gist Lewis on accountability in the legal system Plus, hear about the rise of small law firms challenging big law, how fake online reviews impact attorneys, and why See You In Court is ranked among Georgia’s Top 100 podcasts. 🔔 Follow the conversation and explore more episodes! #Justice #CivilJustice #GeorgiaLaw #LegalSystem #SeeYouInCourtPodcast

In this compelling clip from Episode 48, Joyce Gist Lewis makes a powerful statement on the ethical obligations lawyers hold — not to their clients' demands, but to the Constitution and the court. Just because someone is paying the bill, she says, doesn’t mean they get to co-opt your character. Hear how this principle guides her work and why so many legal decisions are misunderstood by the public. 🎧 Listen to the full episode here: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/ 📷 Follow us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/seeyouincourtpodcast 🔗 #SeeYouInCourt #LegalEthics #CivilJustice #RuleOfLaw #JoyceGistLewis

In this See You In Court podcast short, Joyce Gist Lewis shares how her background in theater sharpened her skills as a trial lawyer. Memorizing scripts is only half the job — great lawyers know how to improvise when it counts. Hear why adaptability is critical in the courtroom and beyond.   🎧 Listen to the full episode: https://seeyouincourt.podbean.com/e/joyce-gist-lewis Learn more: https://seeyouincourtpodcast.org/

In the full episode of See You In Court, Atlanta attorney Joyce Gist Lewis shares her journey from actor to litigator and her leadership at one of the largest women-owned law firms on the East Coast. She speaks powerfully about legal courage, election law, and why defending the rule of law matters now more than ever. In this compelling clip, host Robin Frazer Clark reads directly from the American Bar Association’s lawsuit challenging the federal “law firm intimidation policy” — warning that without action, political retribution could silence lawyers, squash dissent, and threaten our entire legal system.