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The first half of our final background episode comprises an all too brisk survey of some of the most interesting musical contributions of ancient Rome. Find out how the Romans REALLY felt about music and learn why, as Polybius once said, custom is always king. Oh! And we have emperor Nero's ACTUAL singing practice routine! That alone is worth the $0 cost of admission (I mean it's worth more than that, but you're getting it for free anyway because we're such a swell pair of guys). Enjoy!
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LINKS
Reproduction of an Ancient Roman Tuba or Lituus. Used between 500 BC and AD 100.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7GmJFK-07s
Cornu de Pompeii
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IlZgj2FAHA
Roman Replica Hydraulus at the Roman Baths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VesLeVMK5aE&t=14s
What Did Popular Music In Ancient Rome Sound Like?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZOsoDes3Es
Synaulia - Music from Ancient Rome, Vol. 1: Wind Instruments - Amazon.com Music
https://www.amazon.com/Synaulia-Music-Ancient-Rome-Instruments/dp/B00000DMKM
Synaulia - Music from Ancient Rome, Vol. 2: String Instruments - Amazon.com Music
https://www.amazon.com/-/he/Nicoletta-Gervasi/dp/B000077SX2
Play Festina Lente by Ludi Scaenici on Amazon Music
https://www.amazon.com/music/player/albums/B0CQPQ3734
Amazon.com: Musique de l'antiquité grecque : Ensemble Kérylos feat. Annie Bélis: Digital Music
https://www.amazon.com/Musique-lantiquit%C3%A9-grecque-Ensemble-K%C3%A9rylos/dp/B083Q49HV5
Western Classical Music: Where did it come from and how did it "get that way?" We think we can answer the first question in two episodes, but the second one... well, you could build an entire show around that!
Today, we trace the origins of WCM from the earliest notated fragments in the world to the first named composers in history. Join us as we overturn the claim that "Not a note of music has survived from the ancient world," and find out what deck-sanding and kosher lunch meats have in common (the answer will shock you!)
CAVEAT 1: Correction: "Alexanders successors," not "Alexander's descendants"
CAVEAT 2: Greek persecution of the Jews was almost exclusively under Antiochus IV, but it was severe.
CAVEAT 3: The musical setting for the hymn to Caliope and Zeus stretches credibility. I mean, it does kinda sound like "Hush, Little Baby," doesn't it? The language is ancient though and, like we've said, the ancients are always surprising us. ;-)
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EARLY NOTATION LINKS
What do we know about the oldest found melody? - Music: Practice & Theory Stack Exchange
https://music.stackexchange.com/questions/91048/what-do-we-know-about-the-oldest-found-melody
The World's Oldest Surviving Music from circa 1950 BC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAPC1tG2BKY&themeRefresh=1
(PDF) A Musical and Mathematical Context for CBS 1766 | leon crickmore - Academia.edu
https://www.academia.edu/1618638/A_Musical_and_Mathematical_Context_for_CBS_1766
The Oldest Known Melody (Hurrian Hymn no.6 - c.1400 B.C.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpxN2VXPMLc&themeRefresh=1
History's Oldest Song Modernized for 2020 (Samurai Guitarist)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHGB8dS1OsI&themeRefresh=1
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ANCIENT HEBREW MUSIC LINKS
The Origins of the Israelites: Episode 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_ao1i7LokM&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQMmujr06QeRwMZC3goRd0n&index=6
The Pagan Origins of Judaism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZECezMYug8c&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQMmujr06QeRwMZC3goRd0n&index=4&pp=gAQBiAQB8AUB
What Music might Moses have heard as a Child in Egypt?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=At7jUZquUc0
King David's Lyre; Echoes of Ancient Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiA86HI-GLU&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQMmujr06QeRwMZC3goRd0n&index=12
Jerusalem Shofar at Sunrise
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKQrBURDtQE
The Sound of the Shofar calls us to worship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qVHQdKLbTXw
The original musical notes found in the Old Testament, played right before your eyes!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2KwEwaroc&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQMmujr06QeRwMZC3goRd0n&index=19
The Original 3000 Year Old Melody of the Psalm 19 - Revealed?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M86lEfmVsEY&t=30s
Chanticleer - Psalms 23:1-6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOZ3SjHIUzw
Lost Melodies - Hebrew Chanting - Psalm 95
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEfF8fr5stY
Choral singing in ancient Israel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06rIvIBoNfM
Trio Mandili - Psalm 50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcbKoY7XpJE
Mendelssohn: Variations Concertantes, Op. 17
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiocuaABrWc
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ANCIENT GREEK MUSIC LINKS
"Minoan" Lyre - Improvisation by Claudio Quadros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0GzWKUQAJU
Minoan Theater - The Minoan Experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fe_RsPWIOro&t=6s
Ancient Minoan Civilization ("Creep" by Radiohead)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jz3d5x-MUT4
Hymn to Zeus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sc109u7Zw8M&list=PLE619C0863B707DDD&index=4
Ancient Lyre - Kleopas : Hymn to muse Kalliope and Apollo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8Hpyov3Tt8
Rediscovering Ancient Greek Music: A performance reconstructs the past
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAmuQBnNty8&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQMmujr06QeRwMZC3goRd0n&index=29
Cithara of the Golden Age - Michael Levy - Luthieros Music instruments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8t1itGJ8Zpc
Ancient Lyre - Barbiton Lyre of Sappho - Barbiton Lyre
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWLRqI9iM-E
Roman water organ performance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US50QmZaeyE
Eminem straight up reciting the iliad of homer in ancient greek (video by @GavMac39)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ubSwbyd0uI
KANUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iy-Xvzi2YAM
Musique de la Grèce antique
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1z0zaGDzlQ
The Euripides Orestes Chorus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c2Ho9NvWY8
We are back, and today we're headed east to meet two ancient classical music traditions that survive and thrive down to this day. Join us for an episode packed with music philosophy, microtones, and soooooo many instruments! Plus, find out why it's never a good idea to make deals with tectonic plates!
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INDIAN CLASSICAL MUSIC LINKS
Indian Classical Music Website
https://www.indianclassicalmusic.com/
Ravanhatta
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuQv70Aeci8
Lute Sarasvatî Vînâ) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz-Xmh9mXow
Tanpura Demonstration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVeFX4O4zT0
Ektar/Gopichand
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWxajijf_4c
Ravi Kiran plays the Chitra Veena
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sy9omOERyA
Sarangi - Instrument of A Hundred Colours | Musical Wonders of India - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59FpEMSSQiE
Rakesh Chaurasia - Classical Flute (Bansuri) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9cefe-xD04
King of Shehnai UStad Ameer Khan Meeroo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M99kSqJZgMQ
Harmonium/Shruti Box
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jO_uHv4mH8&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QQD2X-QRTXBQJ1Ir8rx-al1&index=12
Jaltarang - Indian National Anthem
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQQ6Qp-07TA
Amazing Tabla Solo | Rimpa Siva | Farukhabad Gharana
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ2WseDHEPI
40 MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS OF INDIA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwJ5FMx86Qg
Ravi Shankar - Monterey Pop 1967
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lk60ObnbIOk
India's Beautiful Musical Traditions (Full Documentary) | Perspective - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcaW9uxk91E
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CHINESE CLASSICAL MUSIC LINKS
Bianzhong of Marquis Yi of Zeng – Sounds of nature from 2,400 years ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6kXCZ_n80I
Bianzhong: Performance on Traditional Chinese Bells
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhcCSeRj2PU
Qing - Chinese Stone Chimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKWqZLQDuKo
Guqin Master Chen Leiji
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35ZKN-H7at4
Chinese Folk Songs for Dizi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVgqCr5D7ps
"The Untamed" - Dizi Cover
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecR6fCv7Ck4
Hu Jianbing sheng improvisation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5d9nID_9Nw
Entrance Hymn for the Emperor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bilTiAwk18
Youlan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8IpKuy8NNU
Ancient Egyptians just loved to Egypt. And you know who else does? YOU! I mean, that's why you're here, right?
Join us for the third segment of episode 0c(1) to uncover such timeless truths as: Which scales did the ancient Egyptians use and was there a master scale as per ancient Sumer? Why did ancient Egyptians REALLY start calling their kings Pharaohs? And who were the four female Hemet-Neter who co-wrote the one surviving work of popular music that comes down to us from these times (we think...)?
CAVEAT 1: Still audible chop-suey with the edit points, BUT we have finally fixed this as of episode 0d(2.2)!
CAVEAT 2: Michael Atherton & Peter Pringle = Independent scholars, NOT amateur ones!!! Sorry, guys. We love you both!
CAVEAT 3: There is only one trumpet in the first example. The stereo sample I was working with had some right channel lag, so sounded like overlapping trumpets. Ah, tech shenanigans.
Michael Atherton: Truth, Balance, Order
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9WOSqH1Oig
Michael Atherton: Atum - Creator Sun God]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9WOSqH1Oig
Academia.edu - de Vartavan - Egyptian Dictionary
https://www.academia.edu/24283355/Vocalised_Dictionary_of_Ancient_Egyptian_PLEASE_DO_NOT_DOWNLOAD_THIS_OLDER_VERSION_OF_THE_DICTIONARY_UNLESS_NECESSARY_DOWNLOAD_THE_NEW_2022_VERSION_SEE_ABOVE_ON_ACADEMIA_EDU_
Neymar - Going Forth By Day
https://nemuer.bandcamp.com/album/going-forth-by-day
Egyptian Banquet Jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oNs_BrnKNE&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=26
Michael Atherton: Triumph of the Deceased
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdmpOjZzXUQ&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=23
Ancient Egyptian Harp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBmWXmn11YE&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=24
"Hungarian" Scale - Double Harmonic Minor
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-exHbyhwI_0
Egyptian Flute Improv
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdSIG7ekBlk
Ney Flute, Oud, and Frame Drum Jam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYQ_ol3L9Ag
Douglas Irvine: Nenchefka's Orchestra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzTBNfQ7_GA
Our best episode yet! Who would have thought there'd be so much to say about music in ancient Sumer and the Akkadian empire? Join us as we trace the life of an ancient Sumerian classical musician. Along the way we'll uncover such exciting truths as: Why was Inanna the coolest goddess there ever was or ever could be?Why was there a Chief of Lamentations in ancient Akkad and what was his connection to Gibson guitars? What is the best animal to sacrifice to your instrument if you happen to be a shem player? And just who on earth is Peter Pringle?
CAVEAT: Nope. None this time!
LINKS:
The Sumerian Silver Lyre - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU4QRxsZhjg&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=11
Oud Beginners - Maqam Hijaz Scale - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k74TTCa-RT8
What Did Mesopotamian Music Sound Like? - A Beginner's Introduction - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHCfrNwkwu0
THE EXALTATION OF INANNA in Sumerian - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSoLHfnr5Gc
'LYRE OF UR' BUILT AND PLAYED BY LUC VANLAERE - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZOFYT7w4GI&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=19
Mesopotamian Music HQ - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulBjuvmKbtA&list=PLJATefPoSWfkr2b7qK9lV7pdU4KWyvAn_&index=76
The Raising of the Hand to Ishtar - Ancient Akkadian hymn - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uzPllUL6bE
Silver Pipes from Ur (double pipe) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adiAQ2BpmiE
Silver pipe from Ur and drone by Tibia - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1SKS0jc1m0
The Lyre of Mesopotamia (A song from Persia/ Iranshahr) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XP7-AphqdYk&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=17
The Epic Of Gilgamesh In Sumerian - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUcTsFe1PVs
Music of Mesopotamia - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Mesopotamia
Music in Mesopotamia - MUSIC IN HISTORY #1 - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCOawIA4b0o&list=PLdW0onEGGcNlt5gqyp9_fXL9uFdsNnfHf&index=3
The Flood Narrative (From the Gilgamesh Epic) (Akkadian) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oelcHhNsMsk&list=OLAK5uy_ngerDjzeM5lA1vPAF4qo4hPMNrl7rZgEY&index=7
The Flood Narrative (From the Gilgamesh Epic) (English) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ViJu2jgKoiU&list=OLAK5uy_ngerDjzeM5lA1vPAF4qo4hPMNrl7rZgEY&index=6
A Sumerian Drinking Song (Sumerian) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MABxJfcX7_A&list=OLAK5uy_ngerDjzeM5lA1vPAF4qo4hPMNrl7rZgEY&index=8
A Sumerian Drinking Song (English) - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdsjzBA1Vlk&list=OLAK5uy_ngerDjzeM5lA1vPAF4qo4hPMNrl7rZgEY&index=8
A song for a son of shulgi - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwFSuz7QCD8
Music of the Ancient World - Sumerian Music V - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NB5X20yoSNQ&list=PLJATefPoSWfkr2b7qK9lV7pdU4KWyvAn_&index=52
Ok! We are back after a halfway successful attempt to put ourselves ahead of schedule. Last time we left you in the Stone Age, but DON'T PANIC. This time we're bringing you out of it! Join us as we stumble through shingles and chronic fatigue respectively all for the love of telling you weird stuff that no one else cares about, such as:
What happened when the first wave of Proto Indo-Europeans reached Spain?
How can you combat modern pseudoscience with ancient tuning standards?
Why didn't neolithic peoples just invent writing and music notation and stop throwing away thousands of years of history?
Ok, so we didn't actually answer that last one, but we sure did feel the pain of not knowing. And now it's your turn to feel some pain. Speaking of that, welcome back and enjoy!
CAVEAT: We recorded this episode WAY back in January, so the schedule update at the end is not correct. Check out our last schedule update to learn more about that.
LINKS
STONE AGE MUSIC • Shamanic Tones • Sounds of Our Eldest Ancestors - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oqTdg2Rq1o&t=892s
Nomadic herders left a strong genetic mark on Europeans and Asians | Science | AAAS
https://www.science.org/content/article/nomadic-herders-left-strong-genetic-mark-europeans-and-asians
Sound of 9000 years old flute - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TqOqgA5_Ik&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr
Eagle Bone Flute and Jaw Harp - Ancient Trails - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJzBgReG37I&list=PLuFO87ncQ_QSgVhJr90aL7nDvEWmoREGr&index=3
Time and Mind | Taylor & Francis Online
https://www.tandfonline.com/journals/rtam20
Acoustic Archaeology | Sounds of the Ancients | Megalithomania 2010 Lecture | Paul Devereux - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oKxjm4pVww
Adam Neely on A = 432Hz - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKTZ151yLnk
What we've been up to, when we'll be back, and what's the best thing you can do for another human being in the meantime.
P.S. Forget the caveat at the end. I was able to get the lossless version in at the very last moment, so this IS the high quality sample! Enjoy!
Surprise!
Schedule updates are just so boring and utilitarian, aren't they? Not when they come with a recording of one of the world's greatest cellists performing one of the world's greatest cello pieces!
CAVEAT: The YouTube performance linked below is not the same performance as the recording heard in this episode, but it's the same musicians and conductor in both concerts.
Jacqueline du Pre & Daniel Barenboim - Elgar Cello Concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhkZW_jwc0
Classical Nerd - The Enigmatic Edward Elgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHxO-LrH-xQ
Ok! After three weeks of tech setbacks and editing catastrophes, victory is finally at hand! By victory, we of course mean this episode. Welcome to our mammoth second half of the first background episode. We think it beats the stones off of last week’s episode because this one has 18 examples of tribal music and prehistoric instruments. I mean, even your favorite podcast can’t say that. And they’re definitely way better than us.
CAVEAT 1: Yes, editing points are still obvious and there’s a tiny bit of non-offensive clipping in Ronnie’s vox around the middle of the episode. The original audio was lost so you’re stuck with this version.
CAVEAT 2: I've since found much better examples of some of the instruments we've covered so far. You can hear some of them on the following playlist.
Prehistoric Music Playlist - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKfoitRvQeE&list=PLOi7pxxD014__19vJx2PQQQL8jdjUb7m3
Ok, enough prefacing. Dig this behemoth out!
Diacoustics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOw8RrK4eUU&list=PLaoYKn5vw7_M6u3lqRBDm6453ybET-sKg
San - Bushmen - Kalahari, South Africa...
https://www.krugerpark.co.za/africa_bushmen.html
Harmony Under the Kalahari Moon: San Bushman Cultural Dance - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dTL_TdONVBs
Original Maori Haka Dance - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI851yJUQQw
Australian Aborigine Kangaroo Dance - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-vI3Nf50g&t=39s
Vulture Bone Whistle/Flute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZlB9KWpbJ0
Ljuben Dimkaroski Plays the Divje Babe Bone Flute
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZCWFcyxUhQ
Sound Experiment Hohle Fels
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DC8Iv2AamrE
Grotte des Trois-Frères
https://www.donsmaps.com/troisfreres.html
Berimbe Solo - EBANDO Mougongo Bwiti Music Video !Mambwiti! - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbkl4Y9nDH8
kalumbu Berimbe Song, by Chris Haambwiila - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wk5c-VsKn1E
Wooden Cricket Block/Rasp - Percussion for Children - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b55PezgXIAk
Archaeologist Dr. Jean-Loup Ringot Rocks The Lithopone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ4hEubvWE4&list=PLOi7pxxD014__19vJx2PQQQL8jdjUb7m3&index=10
Jan Marmenout @ Litophone Improvisation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhHhOwmgMA0&list=PLOi7pxxD014__19vJx2PQQQL8jdjUb7m3&index=19
Tito Bustillo Lithophone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdaRXu-PhZI
The Great Stalacpipe Organ - Moonlight Sonata - YouTube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsKUUn29tSs
Cave Music Explores Ancient Acoustics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKfoitRvQeE&list=PLOi7pxxD014__19vJx2PQQQL8jdjUb7m3
M33 La Pasiega Cave
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p93ZV0C8m3w&list=PLOi7pxxD014__19vJx2PQQQL8jdjUb7m3&index=28
Hello, and welcome to our first real episode! Still not ranking anyone, but that doesn't mean we can't have fun talking shop! In this episode, we explore the most fundamental question of all: What is Music? Join us as we trace the evolutionary roots of human musicality from its origins in the animal kingdom through to its emergence with the dawn of self-aware upright bipeds. Finally, we'll resolve such time-honored questions as which came first; music or language, does that tree falling in the forest really make a sound, and which fast food joint is the best place to copyright your song! DIG IT!
MASSIVE CAVEAT: This episode could not have existed without the tremendous research of the YouTuber Diacoustics. This episode borrows heavily from him, including several block quotations that are entirely his own. I make no claim to them, as it is his brilliant presentation that is at the heart of this episode, serving as its framework and intertwining with our own presentation.
MODERATE CAVEAT: Yeah, we know. The audio’s a bit rough. Please pardon the occasional echo/overlap and obvious edit points. We’re new, so please don’t count us a disgrace to classical music podcasting just yet. And don’t blame our mastering guy. This is all Ronnie’s fault. :)
MINOR CAVEAT: Yes, I know we use the term “melody” in a rather cavalier fashion. Here we use the term in its widest possible context as a series of pitches occurring in succession to one another. We will define the term more properly when we arrive at Gregorian chant in episode 0d.
MORE CAVEAR THAN CAVEAT: This episode is neither intended as an authoritative resource for either the mating behavior of Cambrian roundworms, nor as tax advice when dealing with Paleozoic apex predators. We waive all liability with respect to you messing with Anomalocaris. That's on you, bruh.
Welcome to our pilot episode, where we discuss the uncredibly serious business of ranking classical composers!
Introducing... Settling The Score!
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