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Shaggin' Flies

Shaggin' Flies
Author: Ben Palmer, Zach Hayes
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Join Ben Palmer (@benjpalmer) and Zach Hayes (@pinetarkeyboard) of Pitcher List as they talk to some of the most interesting people in the online baseball community about everything BUT the usual, from baseball to music, movies, the meaning of life, and everything beyond.
32 Episodes
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1 – Podcasting and ENDURANCE and performing
3:30 – I’m TIRED
5:15 – Anne Arundel County
7:45 – NO PLUGS
11:15 – TV News is wild
12:30 – Bamboo Bernie’s!
16 – Fascinating Uber rides
19:30 – Maryland seafood, of course
22 – What the hell is the Illinois state flag?
25 – The Dark Side of the Moon
33 – Why baseball?
37 – Don’t ask about the Coors Field popcorn
40 – The Yoán Moncada Defense Segment
42 – Tiger Stadium and Robert Fick
49 – In praise of Scary Movie 3
52 – The Order of Operations Trifecta!
55 – Ben has a fixation
1:00 – Pick your ear
1:01 – Tesla is cool, Elon is not
1:07 – Would you fly if it took the same energy as running?
1:14 – The Full Count!
Michael’s Book Recommendation: Game of Shadows
Michael’s Food Recommendation: Red Curry Pad Thai
Michael’s Movie Recommendation: Narc
Michael’s Music Recommendation: Things Are Great by Band of Horses
Michael’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Cymbal Cases
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1 – On a floor 😯
2 – Hawaii!
5 – To Fear The Water While Living On An Island
7 – Naming some guys: Erick Aybar; Gary DiSarcina; Darin Erstad; Tim Salmon
10 – Alex Chamberlain, Math Guy
19 – Mark Buehrle love, always worth noting
24 – Zach is a child
26 – Chad Moeller? Yankees backup catcher Chad Moeller?
29 – Taking AP Chem remains one of my biggest regrets
32 – Jim Edmonds inspiring kids to practice diving catches
34 – Freddie Freeman is the second most famous baseball-related alumnus of Alex’s high school
37 – Chris Davis is the modern day Bobby Bonilla
39 – In favor of ballpark food out of a helmet
43 – Mike Trout robs a Grand Slam, and Alex Chamberlain becomes a national hero
47 – Rob Manfred makes $11 million?!?!?
52 – In favor of bullpen carts
55 – The Order of Operations Trifecta! (PEMDAS)
1:00 – No ghosts, but disembodied heads are scary
1:03 – Alex’s daughter escapes
1:06 – The Full Count!
Alex’s Book Recommendation: Someone Who Will Love You In All Your Damaged Glory by Raphael-Bob Waksberg
Alex’s Food Recommendation: Japanese Cuisine
Alex’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Forgetting Sarah Marshall/MacGruber/Bob’s Burgers
Alex’s Music Recommendation: The Wonder Years
Alex’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Slovenia
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Ben and Zach are fortunate enough to be joined this week by Sean Anderson, former producer at Chicagoland radio station 670 The Score and current host of the Locked On White Sox Podcast, to talk about a million different things that can't possible be condensed into a single paragraph but include, among many other things: hot dogs, Esteban Loaiza, Captain Crunch Berries, why Field of Dreams sucks, and being told at a young age that, plot twist: you're not gonna be a pro sportball player.
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1:30 - Paul Pierce and Derrick Rose buzzer beater bank shots in the 2015 Eastern Conference Playoffs
3:45 – Pink mics
6:15 – A cat or a squirrel?
9:30 – Being told at age six that you’re not gonna make it as a sportball player: the Sean Anderson origin story
14 – Dane Dunning love
19:15 – The best New Yorker in North Carolina
21:30 – College radio
23:15 – Get Back reviews and Paul McCartney’s granny music
29 – Ranking Springsteen
35:30 – Christmas Shoes?
38:30 – Why baseball? Leaving it alone.
43 – Sammy Sosa, Chicago White Sox outfielder
45 – Esteban Loaiza’s windup
46:30 – Hot dog and other essential ballpark foods
53 – Commissioner for a Day
1:01:30 – Order of Operations trifecta!
1:07 – The utterly pathetic Chicago Blackhawks organization
1:15 – A long rumination on baseball movies, the Sandlot, Major League, and Field of Dreams
1:28 – Jesus Christ resurrected outside the 670 The Score studios
1:37 – Ghosts, or lack thereof?
1:42 – The Full Count!
Sean’s Book Recommendation: Joe Posnanski’s Top 100 Players
Sean’s Food Recommendation: Mac n’ Cheese
Sean’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Die Hard/Deadliest Catch
Sean’s Music Recommendation: Faye Webster
Sean’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Madden
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Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach
In lieu of a guest this week – and because we need to keep the lights on somehow – we put together some of our favorite deep cuts from the first 22 episodes of Shaggin’ Flies. Some of our highlights include, in roughly chronological order:
-Michael Ajeto calling the cops on himself
-Janice Scurio calls the Cubs flatulent
-Sung Min Kim on Tinder
-Repeatedly being interrupted by live sports
-Scott Chu gets stopped by idiot immigration officials at the Canadian border and then tells us about sign language
-Bradford William Davis reminisces on Queens and canceling Cookie Monster
-DJ Short on culture and dad jokes
-Ghost stories from DJ, Pat Ellington, and Ellen Adair
-Sarah Griffin on getting pulled over as a result of the Mookie Betts trade
-Sara Sanchez brings a funny story in which you can’t laugh
-Ellen Adair on acting
-The long awaited Cereal Supercut
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Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach
Ben and Zach are joined this week by their Pitcher List and South Side Sox Colleague Chrystal O'Keefe (@chrystal_ok) for a delightful and rambling several hours that begins in Indianapolis, Indiana and instantly turns every which way imaginable.
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1 – Opening with Star Wars
7 – SciFis everyone should watch!
10 – Meeting the Firefly cast
14 – What to do in Indy
17 – The Chicago Bulls All Have Covid
21 – Name-a-Pacer
24 – Writing!
25 – Murder?
30 – Writing a kids book
34 – The great hot dog debate part 224
38 – Gino’s East > Lou Malnati’s
41 – Michael Ajeto once again finds himself in reference, this time for the crime of liking Malort
42 – Why baseball?
43 – Other sports don’t have Tim Anderson. Also, family, writing, and Andrew McCutchen!
50 – Stadiums and food!
52 – Go to Pittsburgh and get a pierogi
55 – Churro love
1:03 – Ben messes up the Order of Operations Trifecta
1:06 – Field of Dreams sucks
1:10 – Toothpaste?
1:15 – A conversation with Carrie Fisher if we could
1:17 – A really genuinely unsettling ghost story
1:25 – Relitigating the windshield wiper self consciousness debate
1:29 – The Great Concert Wishlist (Nirvana, Prince, David Bowie)
1:32 – Writing advice: skip the replies
1:40 – Kids are weird and funny
1:45 – The Full Count!
Chrystal’s Book Recommendation: Breath
Chrystal’s Food Recommendation: Garlic and Breadsticks
Chrystal’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Pen15
Chrystal’s Music Recommendation: The Metallica Collection
Chrystal’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Take Care Of Your Face
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Shaggin' Flies with Ben and Zach
Zach is joined for a special solo session with Howard Megdal (@howardmegdal) of Baseball Prospectus, The IX, and the Next for a lovely ninety-minute conversation about women's sports, Bard College, the Mets, New Jersey, and plenty more baseball.
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3 – Working in politics, but then not
5 – Mouse!
7 – The Next and The IX
10 – A nearly half-hour tangent about the wonderfulness of women’s sports and the criminality of their underfunding
31 – Name and Image Likeness
33 – Loving sports at Bard College
35 – Sending angry emails to KenPom
37:30 – Leon Botstein does have a Wikipedia
40:30 – Campaigning the backup center for D3 player of the year
42 – Why baseball?
47 – Basketball is a shot, baseball is an IV
49 – The Baseball Talmud!
52 – Coolest games ever: 2015 World Series, David Cone, and Johan Santana
58 – Alex Bregman and flawed replay
1:02 – Analytics talk
1:06 – Cat!
1:07 – The enemy is certainty
1:09 – Order of Operations trifecta!
1:14 – The consistency of toothpaste as it hits the teeth
1:15 – A conversation with Abraham
1:17 – No ghosts, but Justin Turner is unexplained
1:20 – The Full Count
Howard’s Book Recommendation: Katherine Heiny
Howard’s Food Recommendation: South Jersey Pretzel
Howard’s Movies/TV Recommendation: The Third Man
Howard’s Music Recommendation: Bria Skonberg; Veronica Swift; Emmet Cohen; Good Jazz and Good Food (in general)
Howard’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Flannel pants
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Shaggin' Flies:
1 – Barbie!
3 – From Madison to the Bay
4:30 – Boo Daylight Savings
6:30 – DVR is Of Earth
11 – Witnessing the rise of fantasy live from RotoWire
14 – What If We Kissed In The Combination ESPN Zone/Hard Rock Café
19 – The different vibes of fantasy and gambling
22 – Tales from Sam’s Club
27 – Reflections on Oracular Spectacular
31 – Why baseball? Accessability!
38 – Ballparks!
41 – In support of Ballpark Nachos
44 – The Homer Bailey no-no
46 – Order of Operations Trifecta
52 – Chalk up a W for the Sandlot Enjoyers
54 – Devin Harris shoutout
57 – Ben Palmer, Raccoon Murderer
1:00 – Roy Kent would NEVER
1:02 – The Full Count!
Derek’s Book Recommendation: Answers in the Form of Questions
Derek’s Food Recommendation: Slow Cooker Pulled Pork Tacos
Derek’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Schitt’s Creek/Tommy Boy/Jiro Dreams of Sushi/Bojack Horseman
Derek’s Music Recommendation: Little Neon Limelight by Houndmouth
Derek’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Go on vacation somewhere cool
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Shagging Flies - Ben and Zach are joined by the wonderful and sharp-witted Matthew Roberson (@mroberson22), formerly of FanGraphs, Baseball Prospectus, and Lookout Landing but currently of the New York Daily News, for a typically meandering joyride around topics from Seattle suburbs, karaoke, the utility of flying, Mariners fandom, and countless other meaningless asides. Subscribe and enjoy!
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As usual, on names (2)
Sammamish Washington (3:30)
Travis Pastrana (7:45)
Every kid needs humbling (15)
Having a cup of coffee at FanGraphs (23:30)
Writers are weird (24:30)
Tales from the college newspaper beat at the University of San Diego (27)
Oh no, Charlie Morton (33:30)
From Dominoes to New York (with some sales in between)
On Comedy and Carrie Underwood (43)
If you’re doing karaoke, make sure you know the song (47)
Phone drop! (1:00)
Why would you have a roast for your birthday?
Why baseball? (1:04:30)
Stadium talk (1:11)
Spending money? Me? A baseball franchise owner? (1:18)
On Yankees fans and Boston fans (1:21)
Hisashi Iwakuma love (1:25)
Order of Operations Trifecta! (1:30)
Concert of choice: Prince (1:37)
Who in history would you talk to? (1:45)
Not quite a UFO story, but not not a UFO story (1:48:30)
Do birds know that flying is cool? (1:52)
Matthew almost calls PETA as a child (1:55)
The Full Count! (1:59)
Matthew’s Book Recommendation: Tonight I’m Someone Else by Chelsea Hodson
Matthew’s Music Recommendation: Sawayama
Matthew’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Hacks / Catch Me If You Can
Matthew’s Food Recommendation: Xi’an cuisine
Matthew’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Going for a walk
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0 – Ben butters em up real good
5:30 – It is very much NOT all love, dammit
6:30 – Imagine seizing a team from a billionaire and putting it under control of the state via eminent domain
7:30 – We get to our tangent about owners sucking even earlier than usual, and the relitigation—literally—of the Rams’ move from St. Louis to LA.
12 – Jerry Jones DEFINITELY has some really nasty stuff in his emails
15:30 – Married life!
20 – The Drew Silva story
30 – We interrupt the Drew Silva story to report that the STUPID RED SOX are going to the ALCS
32 – Somehow we wind up talking about Philistine foreskins again
36 – A question that starts with “As a Drake fan”
44 – Ben’s favorite Drake album is SCORPION????
52:50 – Multiple curses
54 – Best concerts
1:02 – The joy of the two-monitor setup
1:04 – End of ad break?
1:05 – Why Baseball?
The Cardinals!
1:12 – I will **** on Indianapolis until the day I die
1:15 – Ben dodges a bomb threat at work (from someone in a panda onesie) while his parents are concerned with Cal Ripken’s impending divorce.
1:18:30 – Ballpark foods
1:20:30 – ******
1:25 – Phish at Phenway
1:30 – In defense of watery Domestic Lite Beers
1:35 – Is an Opener a Starter?
1:40 – Bring a cricket announcer into baseball
1:41 – Order of Operations Trifecta!
1:51 – A deep and dark revelation from Ben
2:03 – Copying is good!
2:08 – The Full Count! (Recommendations To Be Added Shortly)Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1:30 – Zach is weary of society and also on a delay
4 – How are you?
5:30 – We are all just hurtling through space on a tiny rock
8:15 – A pair of life coaches
9 – The podcast has in fact started and we are seven minutes and 30 seconds into it
10:15 – The Ellen Adair story begins in Philadelphia, which is how one becomes a Phillies fan, as few people willingly choose it
12:30 – Ben lobs out possibly the worst borough-related joke ever told
15 – Nepotism, etc
16:30 – Ellen Adair is NOT Ellen Adair’s *full* name
19 – On the day that we recorded this podcast, someone named Ellen Adair died in South Carolina, but not THAT one
21:30 – A story about Kirk Douglas leads to the pronouncement that whiteness is a construct
24:30 – We are all Declan McManus
27 – We would ALL be so lucky as to perform Death of a Salesman in a Bennigans?
27:30 – Why acting? Transformation!
30 – Ben can’t get his Shakespeare plays about English kings straight
32 – Acting, part two: externality and infinity!
35:15 – The Arthur Miller Special
39 – Possibly the first religious turn Shaggin’ Flies has taken
45 – We are all wearing masks and performing, whether it be stage, gender, or interpersonally
51:30 – The difference between stage acting and screen acting
57 – Poetry!
1:00 – Zach is lost and returned
1:05 – Watching the super bowl with Dylan Baker
1:12:15 – Meeting Jim Thome > Meeting Barack Obama
1:13 – Baseball drawings! (ellendrawsbaseball@gmail.com)
1:17 – Why baseball? It is the beauty of renaissance painting combined with the apollonian perfection of Newtonian physics
1:25 – The clarity of the drama
1:29:00 – Favorite Phillies players (Jimmy Rollins love)
1:32 – Ballparks
1:38:30 – Order of Operations Trifecta
1:53 – Baseball movies
2:00 – Ghosts, multiple
2:04 – Making rules about seeing ghosts or not
2:12 – Superpowers
2:15 – The Full Count!
Ellen’s Book Recommendation: Cloud Atlas (shoutout Ulysses!)
Ellen’s Food Recommendation: Bún
Ellen’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Maniac
Ellen’s Music Recommendation: 4Keus
Ellen’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Thinking of life in terms of narrative
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1 – Do people actually care about the Crosstown Classic?
3 – The Sara Sanchez story, originating in Utah
5 – Michael Hermosillo robs Andrew Vaughn of a home run, and Zach forgets that the game he was just watching is not at Wrigley Field
6 – On Wrigley Field
10:30 – Things we don’t like: running baseball teams like McKinsey consultants
15 – The walking elote at the park formerly known as U.S. Cellular field is the best food in baseball, including the crab dip waffle fries
15:45 – Sara knows what a bohtini is!
19 – On Cheladas
21 – Battle of the Chicago hot dog part 8
25 – Flavored Malort
27 – Debate! And its benefits.
30:30 – Book chapters on disinformation
38:30 – The Best and Worst of debaters
42 – Why baseball?
44 – The Sandberg Game
47:30 – Commissioner Sara wants to pay minor leaguers and end blackouts.
1:00 – MLB owners suck
1:04 – The Ricketts especially
1:08 – Order of Operations trifecta!
1:15 – Why A League of Their Own is great
1:29 – John C. McGinty or John C. Reilly?
1:31:30 – Jair Jurrjens throws a no-hitter
1:33 – UFO sighting!
1:35 – A remembrance
1:37 – Advice for writing
1:45 – Sadly, high school teachers can’t laugh at their students
1:47:30 – M*********** doesn’t start with a B! (Sorry Nick, couldn’t bleep this one, pretend it’s satellite radio)
1:50 – The Full Count!
Sara’s Book Recommendation: The Lord of the Rings
Sara’s Food Recommendation: Hatch, New Mexico Green Chile
Sara’s Movies/RV Recommendation: Battlestar Galactica
Sara’s Music Recommendation: Tom Petty
Sara’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Walking!+
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2 – a long intro on names, how they’re pronounced, and where they come from
11:30 – Kansas City is cool
13 – What’s in Delaware?
15 – The origin story
23 – has dived
25 – what matters is you
30 – golf
35 – brian the plant doctor
41 – why baseball
52 – on will clark
55 – ballparks
58 – malort
1:01 – commissioner bubba
1:09 – order of operations trifecta
1:14 – we lose ben and it’s pretty funny
1:19 – strong opinions on baseball movies
1:22 – déjà vu is not a ghost but it’s something
1:26 – on metallica
1:30 – important lesson about writing – don’t be scared
1:37 – The Full Count
Brian’s Book Recommendation: Live From New York: An Uncensored History of Saturday Night Live
Brian’s Music Recommendation: Metallica
Brian’s Movies/TV Recommendation: Breaking Bad/Goodfellas
Brian’s Food Recommendation: Tripas Tacos
Brian’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Get organized!
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1 – Let’s cut the BS y’all, fantasy sports are gambling
2 – Straight into the deep end with ten minutes about gambling, DFS, fantasy sports, and being an analyst
13 – Who Is Justin Mason?
15 – From D.C. to the Army to NorCal!
17 – Mission Accomplished!!1!1!
19 – On addiction and recovery
21 – Disclaimer!
25 – On the importance of being yourself in your writing
26 – Taking over for Eno Sarris, no pressure
27 – What. Is. The. Deal. With. Those. Shirts?
30:30 – When someone approaches you to talk about the Freemasons, it feels like a slippery slope towards anti-Semitic OneWorld conspiracies at the like
35 – The height disparity between Ben and Zach is gonna be weird to gauge when we finally meet IRL
37 – A reminder that Ben is 30 and I am 12
42:30 – If this show has a track, it’s this one
44 – History of TGFBI and Tout Wars
51:30 – Nick Pollack, not unlike Nick Cannon, is spreading his seed far and wide
56 – It makes for GREAT radio/podcasting when Zach freezes in a funny pose
57 – I’m actually way too lazy to edit the whole part out so enjoy the 90 seconds where we try to figure out why there are two Zachs in the studio
1:02 – Why baseball? Do what you’re good at!
1:09 – Balancing fantasy analysis in different sports
1:17 – Michael Carter-Williams?
1:20 – Burnout is real!
1:24 – Paul Sporer is not listening to this podcast
1:30 – We Love Hunter Pence
1:32 – Jeremy Affeldt and weird baseball injuries
1:36 – Favorite stadiums – Oracle is pretty dang nice
1:38 – ENOUGH WITH THE HISTORY MAJORS
1:45 – Justin Mason is Commissioner of Baseball and there are No More Unwritten Rules
1:51 – If it’s a standard from the segregation era, it’s probably not great!
1:58 – Order of Operations trifecta!
2:03:30 – Ben insists on continuing to refer to waterless toothbrushing as “raw dogging it”
2:05 – Justin DEFINITELY saw a ghost
2:10 – Still a dearth of fast food chicken sandwich takes :/
2:15 – RIP Stephen Hillenberg
2:20 – Removing the stigma around profanity
2:21:30 – Justin’s daughter with some truly inventive language
2:29 – The Full Count!
Justin’s Book Recommendation: The Color of Water by James McBride
Justin’s Food Recommendation: Sushi
Justin’s Movies/TV Recommendation: The West Wing
Justin’s Music Recommendation: Miscellaneous Grunge
Justin’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Being of service
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Enjoy episode 18 of Shaggin' Flies, featuring Sarah Griffin (@skg_18), whose work you can find here, as we cover an uncountable number of completely inane topics, including:
1:15 – Ben begins the pod with a handy lesson on figuring out how to deal with delays
2:00 – Silver the 20-year old calico cat sets a new record for podcast interruption
3:20 – Why have we non-Massholes probably heard of Watertown, MA? 😳
5:30 – Ben just now learns that Zach lived in Providence until last October; Sarah indulges Zach’s weird fascination with New England culture and explains the difference between all of the states
8:45 – A super awkward and sudden segue into writing careers
9:15 – The story of how all three of us accidentally stumbled into history degrees
10:15 – Ben’s college advisor was NOT doing their job
12:00 – Student teaching in a nutshell: “are you new?”
15:00 – AP Style vs. Marxist theory in Communications programs
17:00 – Boomer Red Sox fans are a notoriously welcoming group of fans
21:00 – Zach’s camera takes offense to John Means
22:00 – Why hockey is cool
26:00 – The truths and untruths in Massachusetts stereotypes
29:00 – The legend of Traffic Jam Jimmy
30:30 – Boston drivers are indeed a MENACE
32:30 – Weekly reminder that I Am Baby
34:00 – Is it normal to care about other peoples’ windshield wipers?
35:15 – We interrupt this program to talk about Zach’s tire flying off on the highway the other day
39:00 – Service industry horror stories
42:00 – Ma’am, this is, in fact, a Chili’s
47:00 – US Labor law is something, isn’t it.
48:00 – Why baseball? It’s something you grow up with!
51:15 – Championship parades really are the best
54:00 – The AL East Grievance Hour
1:00:30 – Is Maryland the South???
1:05:30 – Wisconsin does not get enough credit for their absolutely batshit drinking culture
1:09:00 – We made the questionable decision to record during Game Six of the NBA Finals
1:10:15 – Rebranding as GiannisList
1:11:00 – Breaking the news of the Mookie Betts trade to the state trooper that pulled Sarah over
1:14:00 – Which is a better story than getting pulled over on the Ohio Turnpike while listening to Mrs. Officer
1:15:45 – Miller Park > Camden Yards #MidwestSupremacy
1:17:15 – The Great Crab Dip Waffle Fries vs. Chicago Hot Dog Debate Part 18
1:19:45 – Guinness Blonde is made in Baltimore?
1:20:45 – We don’t do plugs, but we do give shoutouts to 18th century colonizers
1:21:15 – Order of Operations trifecta!
1:26:00 – Sandlot slander, etc
1:29:00 – Is it bad or is it funny?
1:32:00 – What’s the real story of the One Direction breakup?
1:33:00 – There is a zero percent chance the oldest house on Cape Cod is NOT haunted
1:36:00 – The difference between Muppets and Sesame Street
1:39:00 – On chicken sandwiches and other important topics
1:40:30 – We ALL used to be geeks about the Presidents
1:44:00 – Presidential fun fact bonanza
1:45:30 – Everyone in Watertown knows Whitey Bulger
1:47:30 – Equal amounts of excitement for the Bucks winning an NBA championship and the White Sox completing an eighth inning comeback against the Twins
1:49:00 – Self-editing is hard but important!
1:53:00 – Wedding crashers by way of playing the children’s game Manhunt
1:55:00 – The Full Count!
Sarah’s Book Recommendation: Big Hair and Plastic Grass: A Funky Ride T
In Which Zach Accidentally Deletes The Word Doc With All The Episode Notes
So, Here's A Recording Of Game Four Of The 2005 World Series Instead
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2:45 – Plugs and gassing up
4:15 – The history of Locked On Orioles
6 – In Praise of the Google Form
7:30 – Making it through the pandemic with the 2012 MLB playoffs
12:15 – Love to Odrisamer Despaigne
15:15 – College and minor league broadcasting is pretty cool!
17 – Ode to the Bowie Baysox
21 – How times have changed since Matt Wieters
25:15 – Trying thing in college is cool
29 – You gotta remember your best calls
31 – In appreciation of radio broadcasting
35:15 – I Am Once Again Asking Announcers To Make A Little Bit Of Effort To Learn How To Pronounce Names
37 – Oh, Ed Farmer
39:30 – Slander for Scott Garceau and FP Santangelo
44 – Shoutout Don Orsillo
48:15 – We Love Gus Johnson
50 – The Great Joe Buck Debate
55:30 – Ben imitates Tim McCarver reading Metallica lyrics
58:30 – Why Baseball?
59 – It’s relaxing! You get down time!
1:06 – Shoutout Erik Bedard and Adam Jones
1:08:30 – Oriole legend Steve Pearce
1:12:15 – Twelve minutes of Chris Davis
1:24 – Thoughts on the rebuild?
1:27 – Brady Anderson?
1:33 – Yeah, the Yankees aren’t running out Travis Hafner and Vernon Wells anymore
1:37:15 – We all run into Jim Thome in an elevator sometimes
1:41 – College baseball is dope (and Silver makes her weekly appearance)
1:44 – Comerica Park has a merry-go-round on the concourse
1:45 – Order of Operations Trifecta!
1:49 – We need a Ben’s Wife Reaction Cam
1:56 – Zach the horribly sad conflation between Fab Melo and Melo Trimble
1:57 – Zach goes Back to Back and pronounces GIF like JIFF and it’s so bad I had to censor it
1:57:30 – As per usual, Moneyball is good, also as per usual, the Sandlot is overrated
2:01 – What would it be like to actually have an off-the-record, one-on-one with Chris Davis?
2:03 – The Full Count!
Connor’s Book Recommendation: The MVP Machine
Connor’s Food Recommendation: Grab & Go Taco
Connor’s Music Recommendation: Superstore
Connor’s Music/TV Recommendation: Culture III
Connor’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Watching the night sky at Cherry Spring State Park
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3 – Cleveland gets a bad rap!
5 – Why do we all hate Cleveland again?
6:30 – CC is the goat
9 – The Black MLB Players you need to know about series
9:30 – Aaaaand he’s gone
11:30 – The Lindor trade is a garbage thing to have to write a second article about
17 – Jumping from film to journalism and all similar creative endeavors
21 – Behind Tangible_Uno, aka, we all get in trouble for pissing off Curt Schilling
23 – In support of Alice in Chains
26 – Favorite Anime/Manga
28 – Bad wifi will be the death of us all!
30 – Appreciation for Heat, Memento, and Michael Mann
35 – Why baseball?
35:30 – Chaos!
39:30 – We’re all basically writing book reports
43:30 – Commissioner Pat is looking out for Minor Leaguers and front office and ballpark workers
47 – The Order of Operations Trifecta
51:45 – Jackie Robinson was a much, much better baseball player than actor
54:30 – Joakim Noah on Cleveland
57:30 – On being emotionally wounded by Jeremy Guthrie
59:30 – Benevolent ghosts
1:02:30 – Zach questions the usefulness of invulnerability
1:04 – Respect to Janet Jackson and Sadé
1:07 – The Full Count!
Patrick’s Book Recommendation: House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski
Patrick’s Food Recommendation: Steak and Lobster
Patrick’s Music Recommendation: The Price of Tea in China by Boldy James & The Alchemist
Patrick’s Movies/TV Recommendation: The Wire
Patrick’s Miscellaneous Recommendation: Minor League Baseball!
1:15:30 – Wrapping up with the Great Pickle/Hot Dog Debate Part 391.3Get PL+ and join our community!: https://pitcherlist.com/plus Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
2:00 – Opening with good vibes by remembering the time Nick forgot to record Zac Gallen’s side of a podcast interview
5:00 – Reminiscing on the Slack days
6:00 – Pitcher List meetup!
6:45 – Nick is from Brooklyn but doesn’t have an accent
7:30 – Nick puts a watermelon inside of a stroller to fit in in Brooklyn
9:00 – What if it was a Doberman in a stroller instead of a "pocket dog" 👀
11:30 – Shoutout to all the other Psych majors/CompSci minors
12:30 – Let's be clear—Midnight Agenda is a booty call and not a reference to witchcraft
13:00 – Ben Palmer knows all the skeletons in the Pitcher List closet, including the name of Nick’s old band name
16:30 – When Ben is short for… Benton?
17:30 – Zac(h) goes down BAD at Starbucks
21:30 – Progressive Metal go harddddddd
24:00 – A truly impeccable analogy between catchy music and healthy eating
26:00 – Zach samples Cannibal Corpse and Ben takes issue with Yngwie Malmsteen
29:00 – All genres are beautiful!
31:45 – It should indeed probably be called White Metal
33:30 – Certain chord progressions are corny
34:30 – Zach is a basic bitch in his musical tastes
36:30 – You’ve never listened to Porcupine Tree or Pineapple Thief?
40:30 – Nick does NOT care for flutes
41:30 – The history of Pitcher List, according to the founder of Pitcher List
46:00 – Ooooooooohhhhh imposter syndrome!
47:15 – WHY WOULD YOU SUGGEST I START AUSTIN GOMBER OVER NATHAN EOVALDI
48:00 – Fantasy blame and toxic fandom
50:45 – A cease and desist from MLB?
52:00 – Nick has Washington Post bylines, what have you done lately?
56:00 – Sorry Nick, we’re UNIONIZING
59:00 – The short-lived article series titled Hit It or Quit It
59:30 – Fireworks (that you can’t hear) make Zach almost fall out his chair (that you can’t see)
1:00:00 – Weekly shoutout to the 15 loyal listeners!
1:04:00 – Division III life!
1:10:00 – Why baseball? Because pitching is so cool!
1:11:00 – And also when pitching, you get to be the center of attention
1:13:30 – In which baseball is like Yu-Gi-Oh
1:19:00 – Pitching is the greatest position and also the worst position
1:21:00 – The time Dan Wharthen’s wife said his butt looked good
1:22:00 – Nick loves a good ol’ slider
1:24:45 – And also the perfectly placed 3-2 Chris Sale changeup to Mike Trout that wound up a grand slam anyway
1:29:00 – Does it get any better than chicken tenders and fries at Citi Field?
1:30:00 – The Great Chicago Hot Dog/Crab Dip Waffle Fry Debate, Part 69
1:32:30 – Modeling windups on David Cone and Tim Lincecum
1:34:00 – We made it all the way to episode fourteen before revealing that Jim Palmer is Ben’s father
1:35:30 – Order of Operations trifecta
1:38:15 – Zach keeps fantasizing on his cereal-before-milk supercut
1:39:00 – Spitballing baseball movies and the misleading, manipulative plot of Bull Durham
1:44:00 – An INCREDIBLE League of Their Own pun
1:48:00 – Quantum physics is crazy, man
1:50:30 – Nick’s superpower: selective omniscience
1:52:00 – Writing and analysis advice: sit down, be humble!
1:58:00 – The Full Count!
Nick’s Book Recommendation: How To Win Friends And Influence People by Dale Carnegie
Nick’s Food Recommendation: Al Di La in Park Slope, Brooklyn
Nick’s Movies/TV Recommendation:
1 – Anthony Santander appreciation
3 – Shoutout William Henry Harrison
7 – Answering emails as a fantasy analyst is different when you have kids
9 – Imposter syndrome!
11 – Cursed league
12 – Tony Kornheiser: JUST DO IT
13 – Y’all don’t wanna know what my DMs look like
14 – The Story of DJ
15 – Ben begins a forty minute mid-podcast game of fetch
18 – Yes, Dear was an underrated sitcom
19 – The animals run the show here
20 – The Joy of college radio
25:45 – Echoooo
28 – Turn up at Salisbury
32:30 – Who’s good at de-escalating? Not police! Also, time to talk music.
34:30 – Shoutout Rancid
37 – Music as cultural currency, and why the music we listen to when we’re younger sticks with us
40 – It’s the cat’s turn to say hi
41:45 – An elegy for mixtapes
43 – I am child (and as old as Ben’s brother)
48 – Being surprised on the radio
50 – Late millennials went from limewire to paying Apple $10 a month 😐
51:30 – How do we know what jeans are cool in a pandemic when nobody’s outside?
52:45 – Ben and DJ are LOVING the Dad fantasy
57 – Attempting to send reviews to Pitchfork, getting two thumbs down
57:30 – Why baseball?
1:02 – Francisco Lindor is batting .313 over his last 3 games
1:04:30 – Jarred Kelenic and Mets fan pain
1:06 – The Washington Football Team has gotten a weird amount of airtime on this show
1:08 – Justin Fields is my president
1:11 – Shake Shack at City Field
1:13 – Getting kicked out of the Coca Cola Corner at Citi Field for vaping
1:16 – DJ Short is now the commissioner of baseball, and has some interesting rule changes
1:20 – Zach does a terrible job of explaining an even more poorly conceived extra inning idea
1:23 – Ben does magic fingers and gives DJ the impression that we have sound effects
1:23:30 – Van Gogh leads to Dad Jokes
1:26 – Ben’s kid 1, Ben 0
1:27:15 – Order of operations trifecta!
1:33 – Most baseball movies suck, especially awkwardly watching Bull Durham with your parents
1:37 – Sugar is the only good baseball movie, really.
1:41 – Reconsidering how we talk about players, as fans and analysts
1:45:45 – Randy and Dennis Quaid are VERY different
1:46:30 – We got a ghost story guys!!!!
1:49:15 – The most altruistic superpower imaginable (kind of Captain Planet-esque)
1:51:45 – Beeker is hilarious and Zach is Beeker
1:54:45 – Scandal noted
1:56:15 – Writing advice—know when to walk away!
2:00:30 – Hey @CraigCalcaterra wanna come on Shaggin’ Flies?
2:02 – Note to self: don’t fall in the giant hole while stealing pumpkins
2:04 -- The Full Count!
DJ’s Book Recommendation: Swing Kings by Jared Diamond
DJ’s Food Recommendation: Paulie Gee’s
DJ’s Movie Recommendation: The Sounds of Metal/Ozark
DJ’s Music Recommendation: A Billion Little Lights by Wild Pink;