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Shiny New Object - a Marketing Podcast

Author: Tom Ollerton

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Shiny New Object is a podcast about the future of data driven marketing. Each episode is a conversation with an insightful and influential leader in the industry about the latest tech, trend or talking point to catch their eye. Host: Tom Ollerton, Founder of www.automatedcreative.net
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The biggest currency is attention, and we as marketeers we're fighting for attention, not only from other brands, but from all these other stimuli. For Martin Höfling, Global Marketing Manager Chupa Chups at Perfetti Van Melle - Brasil, cultural marketing is the way forward for brands who want to capture consumers' ever fleeting attention. On this latest episode, we talk about the pillars of cultural marketing, the importance of curiosity in data driven marketing, and his "Miracle Morning" routine. Inspirational tips to boost creative effectiveness and everyday life at the same time. 
You can have the best tech and innovation, but are you creating for and connecting with humans? If all you rely on is AI, you'll eventually lose human connections and your marketing will fail, says Carly Morris, Global Head of Acquisition & Growth at Microsoft Advertising. She's picked "people centric leadership in an AI evolution" as her shiny new object and we talk about: understanding the data beyond surface level creating environments where people can be creative and thrive why brands who put people first will eventually have the upper hand. "Data can be a starting point, a way to fill in the gaps." Learn more on the full episode. 
I don't want a team of people who are so frantic and actually being unproductive because they don't know actually if they're coming or going. Bee Craft, Head of Performance Marketing at Golfbreaks, has found the cure for frantic, noisy marketing environments: the scrum methodology. On the podcast, she explains: How applying structured two-week sprints to campaign planning brings down the stress and increases productivity levels Why scrums are great for accountability and transparency in marketing How it's not just about the data - but also very much about humans, on both sides of the marketing coin.  
"You need to fall in love with the why, right, not just the numbers, not just the data, not just the metric." On the latest episode of the Shiny New Object Podcast, Kiesse Lamour, Global Head of Media, Commerce at VML, tells us why marketers need to understand the bigger picture and move slower to deliver higher-quality work that actually brings better results, faster. Tune in to hear why too many marketers lose sight of the bigger picture, how to build a career people will remember for the right reasons, and how to avoid management by spreadsheet.
What purpose is your content serving? Sian Nicholas, Global Social Media Manager at Charlotte Tilbury, believes in asking "why?" over and over again to get to the bottom of effective data driven marketing. Tune in to hear: 🎥 why employee-generated content is becoming the most authentic format in beauty and beyond ✨ why every brief should start with asking "why?"  📱 how to stay ahead in social without trying to be everything to everyone Learn about employee-generated content as a form of marketing future in B2C on the latest episode of the Shiny New Object Podcast.
"We've got all this data, but who's to say people aren't just randomly searching for random things because we've got so many avenues to be searching for them?" Nick Cedar, Manager Media Strategy and Planning at SharkNinja, talks about why it's important to understand your audience more than it is to extract data that may not be giving you any relevant insights. On the latest episode of the Shiny New Object Podcast, find out: Why doing a good job as a leader means you've nurtured an independenth, thriving team How to find data that's a launchpad for ideas and not just a scorecard of what's happening The relevance of audience-centric data storytelling.  
Head of Digital Media at Newcastle University, Matt Horne joins Tom Ollerton to talk creativity, data-driven marketing… and why his skateboard is a better teacher than most dashboards. In this episode: Why marketing mix modelling and data warehouses help, but aren't 100% precise Reporting that lands: tailor the numbers to finance, tech, or the C-suite Privacy, under-18 targeting, and the reality of higher-ed marketing Hustle early, balance later: a career path from radio ads to paid and organic "Rate My Skate": learning in public, experimentation, and finding flow. Listen, learn, and maybe pick up a board.  
Stop chasing clicks without meaning, says Pepe Gorbea, Global Head of Brands, Agencies & Sustainability Innovation at HP and Co-Founder. of StoryMaking4Good. Tune in to hear: • how co-creation turned Nescafé into a double-digit growth story in Mexico • why marketers must learn to listen and focus on the metrics that matter • how to link storytelling and sales  • why the future of advertising lies in community, not campaigns "I want to stop people skipping ads — because advertising can help communities thrive." Learn how co-creation drives both purpose and performance.
Stop logging numbers without insights, says Ruggable's Insights Manager, Kajal Patel, on the latest episode of the Shiny New Object Podcast. Tune in to hear: how to use customer segmentation that delivers results why predictive LTV should be your no 1 prioritisation tool Kajal's best investment to increase her productivity why numbers are useless without a call to action. "Data is the neck of the company, because it helps the head move in the right direction." Learn how to use it wisely. 
While AI is brilliant at reacting to a prompt, marketers need to remember that they want humans to react to their message. That's where human input will always provide value, says Secret Escapes' Interim Head of Brand and Marketing EU, Pete Durant. We catch up with Pete about AI vs social media and rapid growth, gaining perspective about work and life, focusing on actionable insights (not just data noise), and why his shiny new object is Meta's intent black box.  An episode twice as long as most of the most recent ones... and packed with great marketing thoughts!
The future of marketing may not just be shaped by the internet anymore. On the latest podcast episode, we speak about the under net with Jason Hartley, Head of Media Innovation and Trust at PMG. Jason explains how the infrastructure of the internet is now being used in a new way that's not really visible to us, introducing "invisible influencers" that make up what he's calling the under net. We talk about AI agents, the emergence of an over net as well, and using data but looking beyond it, to become a better marketer. 
Instead of being data driven, marketers need to switch to being wisdom led and search for human insights that help them predict consumer behaviour. On the latest podcast episode, Mark Cochrane, Head of Media Strategy at T&P, tells us why there's an important difference between data and wisdom. He's also discovered a much better way to brainstorm around audiences, than the old pen portraits - using AI audience agents. Learn how he does it and get top data driven marketing tips.
How can you find the sweet spot between brand and growth, using creative and data in tandem? Kyle Shileds, Growth Creative Lead (Art Director) at fintech brand Wealthsimple, discusses his top data driven marketing tips on the latest episode of the podcast. Find out why he takes inspiration from Malcolm Gladwell books, how he looks to brands like BMW, Duolingo, and IKEA's platform hijacking for inspiration, and his advice on advertising while still "feeling like a friend, not a big brand."
What's more important, raw data or customer feedback? Speaking to Molly Peel, Head of Social Media at the Red Carnation Hotel Collection, we re-open the qualitative vs quantitative debate when it comes to data driven marketing. Hear how you should balance the two and learn about how Molly using predictive analysis to set future plans in social media.
ClassPass Acquisition Marketing Manager Beril Aydingor Yunusoglu shares why mindset is her shiny new object. In a world where we have too much choice and AI is prevalent in the creative process, she advocates for balance and authenticity. Learn how to adopt these, connect the human dots that AI can miss, and go beyond the data to understand context and nuance.
Julie Pender, the UK Creative Content Manager at Havana Club UK, Pernod Ricard, joins us to discuss the future of data-driven marketing, the essence of alcohol marketing, insights from Simon Sinek's 'Start with Why', the importance of navigating data-driven insights, and the power of community in marketing. Julie shares her experiences and strategies in building a community around the brand, emphasising the significance of genuine relationships and understanding consumer behavior.    
What does ChatGPT have to do with launching a jewelry brand? Richard Lee, Google's Global Head of Marketing, Games and Media & Entertainment Industries,  unpacks how AI is reshaping marketing, particularly by using text to code with AI.  Learn how he's getting it to help create complex workflows, brand mood boards, or a newsletter. And how to ensure there is still quality human input into it all. 
AI is opening doors for data driven marketing, but can be a Pandora's box if not used carefully in the healthcare industry.  Hernando Ruiz-Jimenez is Chief Marketing and Communications Officer at Geisinger Health, where he's experimenting with AI agents and pilots to see how he can make the most of healthcare data while protecting customers' privacy and being respectful of their particular conditions.  Learn about great marketing books, understanding the basics, and trial and error with AI in healthcare marketing. 
You'll always be more productive if you're happy where you work. Jayne Andrews, Marketing Director at Fentimans Ltd, believes in creating high performing and happy teams; in other words, "teams that are productive for the right reasons," where people can be themselves and put their best foot forward. While this is Jayne's shiny new object, she also shares her belief in how data and creativity come together to make marketing magic. And she tells us about how she "killed her career" during Covid! Tune in to get top data driven marketing tips and valuable life lessons in one episode.
"If you don't focus on retention, you're filling up a bucket with holes. You celebrate all these acquisition numbers, but your funnel is actually leaking and you don't know it." Splendid Uchehcukwu, Growth Marketer at GoCardless, warns that retention is more important (and more overlooked) in data driven marketing than we may think. On the latest podcast episode, she shares her top tips for retaining new customers, changing focus, and developing a marketing career.
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