You asked for ‘More Kim’—now you got it! Please enjoy a free sneak peek of the weekly MORE KIM episodes that are normally SUBSCRIBER ONLY! These are Kim’s takes on Slaycation cases and life’s general madness. Due to the exciting breaking news in this episode, we’re giving non-subscribers a sneak peek of More Kim bonus content. But if you want it WITHOUT ads and EVERY week - subscribe now for less than the cost of a skein of yarn a month and you get a 7-day free trial. On today’s MORE KIM we explore the devastating realities of relationship violence through the harrowing stories of Arielle Konig and the recent update on the Ana Knezevich case. From a brutal attack on a Hawaiian hiking trail to a high-tech disappearance in Madrid, these cases illuminate the warning signs, the statistics, and the urgent need for awareness and support. Host Kim unpacks the patterns that escalate to violence—control, coercion, jealousy—and reminds listeners that abuse is never “just emotional.” It’s dangerous. It’s deadly. And it’s more common than we think. If you or someone you love needs help, resources are just a call or click away. If you see these signs in your life or someone else’s — act. Reach out. Share this information. The National Domestic Violence Hotline — 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) Text START to 88788 or visit TheHotline.org To help Arielle, go to this GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-arielle-konig-heal-after-tragic-incident Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or at https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more at https://www.facebook.com/groups/SlaycatersOnly Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
You asked for ‘More Kim’—now you got it! These are my takes on Slaycation cases, the all-Kim regime in North Korea, and life’s general madness. This week, we’re giving non-subscribers a sneak peek of More Kim bonus content—but with ads. Want it every week, ad-free? Subscribe now. SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters -- here is a FREE SNEAK PEEK of a MORE KIM segment. Kim records one of these every week. Normally, you have to SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS to get them -- but as a Valentine's Day present we're giving you a special episode to enjoy! You asked for ‘More Kim’ so now you get ‘More Kim!’ These are musings about Slaycation cases and other insights and observations of life’s insanity. On this episode, Kim discusses Valentine's Day and Valentines gone wrong. To get future (and past) episodes of MORE KIM -- SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS(+) For AD FREE listening & "MORE KIM!' Bonus Segments! Subscribe right in Apple Podcasts, or go to: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Here we go again, Slaycation Fam — back on the Appalachian Trail for a solo hiking adventure...what could possibly go wrong? Well, if we’re talking about it, then…everything. But here’s an interesting wrinkle — the victim was a 30-year old man. Scott Lilly, from South Bend Indiana, needed a reset — to clear his mind he decided to challenge himself by hiking hundreds of miles along the Southern route of the Appalachian Trail. Things were going well at first as he checked in with his family. But when the calls stopped, people got worried and put out a missing person’s alert. What investigators would eventually find still haunts the trail today and might even tie in with another murder! As always, thanks for listening & please stay safe! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters -- please enjoy the Ghost Story Adam teased in our episode 'Cray Cray at Crater Lake'... This is a true story. It took place in January, 2000 at the Ambassador Hotel in Los Angeles, CA while Adam was on set filming a movie he wrote for MTV. Believe us when we say, Adam is a skeptic. He makes shows about Science. The last thing he wants is to believe in ghosts! But since this actually happened and he saw what he saw (along with a witness) -- he has no choice but to leave the door to the paranormal open. Listen and decide for yourself whether Adam actually saw a ghost -- or if he's just a little cray-cray himself! Thanks for listening and HAPPY THANKSGIVING! Holiday Sale! Slaycation Plus Annual Subscriptions now 50% Off through the end of November! Get ad-free listening and weekly episodes of More Kim for just $19.99 for the year! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, this week we are headed to the Austrian Alps for a cold case that became a hot one once a body was found on the Stubby Glacier. Duncan MacPherson, a former professional hockey player from Canada, seemingly vanished on the slopes while snowboarding during a fateful vacation trip before staring a new coaching job in Scotland. But when his body was incredibly found buried in the thawing snow 14 years later — it opened up an entirely new investigation and pointed towards a crazy cover-up by the mountain resort. As always — thanks for listening and Slaycating with us. And please, stay safe out there! Holiday Sale! Slaycation Plus Annual Subscriptions now 50% Off through the end of November! Get ad-free listening and weekly episodes of More Kim for just $19.99 for the year! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, welcome to another episode of Slaycation — this time taking place in the awe-inspiring Crater Lake National Park located in the Cascade Mountains of Southern Oregon. It’s a magical place where people go to connect with nature, hike, camp and feel a sense of spirituality that sometimes veers into the unexplained and paranormal. Well, something very unexplained and possibly even paranormal took place on October 14th, 2006 — when Kenneth Boehlke and his 8-year old son, Samuel visited the Park. Unfortunately, two people entered and only one left. Set your expectations to sad and stunned as we unfold the details of this baffling case. As always thanks for Slaycating with us. We love you all! Please stay safe out there! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Here's a gift for you our wonderful Slaycaters - a full episode of our weekly Subscriber Only series "More Kim". Remember the Elijah Snow case from our "How to Get a 1-Star Review in Cancun" episode? The firefighter found dead at a Mexican resort under suspicious circumstances? We've got a MAJOR update. Thanks to Slaycater Doris in Miami for the tip - nice investigating! Want more "MORE KIM" ? Of course you do. Subscribe right on our site or at Apple for More Kim + Ad Free listening and early access. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters —we are back with another head-scratcher, this time on the beautiful Hawaiian island of Maui -- an amazing place filled with beauty, wonder and mystery. In this case, a particular mystery involving Khiara Henry, a bright, outgoing, San Diego native who loves to travel. Unfortunately, her July 2019 trip to Maui ended in a way nobody saw coming. Join us as we dig into this strange story that left us baffled and looking for answers. Who knows, maybe one of our listeners can help solve the case -- which begins after 11 minutes of banter mostly revolving around an amazing email from a Slaycater thaning Kim for literally saving her life! As always thanks for listening and please stay safe out there! (We want you LISTENING to the show — not ON the show!) Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
OMG Slaycaters… We’ve got a doozy of a case today — definitely not for the faint-hearted. But also — one you’re gonna want to hear because this sh*t gets cray-cray. (Quoting Kim, here.) As always, the less you know the better — but let’s just say a fateful camping trip to Mt. Shasta goes horribly, murderously wrong for poor, sweet, trusting Lora Sinner who thought she was among friends… when in reality she was really among fiends. Trust us, you won’t forget this case any time soon. As always thanks for listening and please stay safe out there. Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, meet Lela and Raymond Howard, a sweet elderly couple from Salado, Texas who, against the wishes of concerned family members, decide to drive themselves to a nearby festival, 15 miles away. They never made it — in part because Lela was driving in the complete opposite direction. n fact, a cop pulled them over for driving with their headlights off in Arkansas, about 500 miles away. Meanwhile, back home panicked friends and family were desperately searching for the missing couple. Did they deliberately go on the run? Was Lela’s Alzheimer’s to blame? Were they trying to escape a life of doctors appointments, medications, aches & pains? This 1997 story became the inspiration for the song ‘The Way’ by Fastball -- only with a much happier ending. Thanks for Slaycating with us and please stay safe out there! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Oof… This case. Too soon. Too sad. Too much WTF… And yet, here we are. There truly is no way to sugarcoat what happened to 9-year old Melina Frattolin, who was visiting her father, Luciano, the owner of a supposedly successful coffee business. But like most things in this case — there’s the truth and there’s the story that Luciano tells. And that story includes a tale of a white van pulling up to where Luciano and Melina were hanging out by the side of the road — and several kidnappers jumping out and taking the young girl. Thus begins a tale of abduction, Amber Alerts, and a horrific discovery in a nearby wooded pond area. This case is not for the faint of heart but then again, neither are we. As always, thanks for joining us and please stay safe out there! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters (and music fans) we’re taking you back to 1973 and the Summer Jam concert in Watkins Glen, New York. The headliners were The Grateful Dead, The Allman Brothers and The Band and over 600,000 people showed up to the Watkins Glen Grand Prix Raceway. Among the concert-goers were 16 year old Michael Weiser and 15 year old Bonnie Bickwit, two very smart and loving kids from Brooklyn, NY. Without a car, the pair decided to hitchhike to the show. They never made it home. Join us as we take a deep dive into this music-festival mystery that may have left these two unlucky Deadheads dead. Or not. As always, thanks for Slaycating with us and please stay safe out there. Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hello and welcome to another episode of Throuples Counseling -- where your favorite True Crime Throuple put their 30+ years of friendship and marriage, 21 years of parenting experience, and Kim's background as a Social Worker, to use, dispensing witty and heartfelt advice to our beloved Slaycaters. You asked the questions -- we offer our unlicensed thoughts and opinions. And we all (hopefully) have fun. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
OK Slaycaters, this episode starts with us taking a deep breath…something you’re going to want to do multiple times throughout this episode as we tell the equal parts horrifying, mystifying and frustrating case of Elliot Blair and Kim Blair-Williams — two young, public defenders spending their first wedding anniversary in Mexico. Without giving away any details, let’s just say in a town known for Police corruption, while staying at a hotel whose name literally translates to ‘The Rocks’ — the turn of events that befell our young lawyers almost seems foreshadowed. But of course, the gory details make this so much worse. Just remember to breathe. As always, thanks for Slaycating with us and please stay safe out there! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, welcome to what might be the most insane case we’ve ever covered on this show. Which is really saying a lot. Not only does this case take place literally in our backyard of the East Village of New York City, at a time (late 80’s/early 90’s) when all three of us were in and around the area — but what actually transpired is beyond the scope of any nightmare you could imagine. The less you know the better — but let’s just say poor Monika Beerle, a 26-year old dancer from Switzerland could not have found a worse roommate situation…or a worse roommate than Daniel Rakowitz, a man known for walking around Tompkins Square Park with his pet rooster. Please be warned — this one gets intense. As always thanks for Slaycating with us & please choose the people you decide to live with carefully! Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, congratulations! You’ve just won the Jamaican lottery! All you need to do to receive your winnings is pay a small fee (to cover customs charges and shipping costs). Never mind that you never entered the Jamaican lottery — you won! Here is the untraceable way for you to send the fee… Now obviously you’re way too smart to ever fall for a scam like this — but believe it or not, hundreds of people do…including Heidi Muth, a teacher from California. Only, when she suspected she’d been scammed she hopped a plane to Montego Bay, Jamaica to confront the people she’d been talking to. Bad idea. As always, thanks for Slaycating with us, stay safe out there…and beware of obvious scams! Slaycation is Edited by Kelley Marcano It is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hello and welcome to another episode of Throuples Counseling -- where your favorite True Crime Throuple put their 30+ years of friendship and marriage, 21 years of parenting experience, and Kim's background as a Social Worker, to use, dispensing witty and heartfelt advice to our beloved Slaycaters. You asked the questions -- we offer our unlicensed thoughts and opinions. And we all (hopefully) have fun. Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Hey Slaycaters, we’re back with another shocking, mysterious death in Mexico — this time, beloved actress Carol Wayne, most known for playing the ‘Matinee Lady’ in sketches with Johnny Carson. Without giving too much away, let’s just say a fight with her travel companion in Manzanillo, Mexico led to Carol storming off. The next time she was seen — she’d be on the news, not The Tonight Show. This case, from 1985, is chock full of suspicious circumstances and an investigation that ranges from shoddy to shady — fueling a host of theories and conjecture to this very day! As always, thanks for Slaycating with us and please stay safe out there! XXOO - The Throuple Slaycation is recorded at the Brooklyn Podcasting Studio by Josh Wilcox Editing is by Kelley Marcano MORE KIM!: Subscribe to SLAYCATION PLUS and get weekly ‘More Kim’ bonus episodes. SUBSCRIBE to SLAYCATION PLUS right in Apple Podcasts, or on our website: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/supporters/pricing SLAYCATERS ONLY: Interact with the Hosts and get behind the scenes info, photos and more in our FACEBOOK GROUP: https://www.facebook.com/groups/394778366758281 MERCH! Top quality ‘Pack Your Body Bags" tote bags, as well as Slaycation T-shirts, towels, sandals, fanny packs, stickers and more available at: https://plus.slaycation.wtf/collections/all MORE INFO: to learn more about Slaycation, the Hosts go to: www.slaycation.wtf EMAIL: info@slaycation.wtf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Cheryl Lobue
gaygation
Izzy Kattan
I'm going to say that someone made a comment about the host yakking in this podcast?! because he keeps saying enough yakking, enough yakking, lol. but honestly don't listen to that crap because it felt rushed and pressured and unnatural stick with your natural flow guys you're wonderful
lisa bradford
yacht rock of color nomination: Caribbean Queen. BEAT THAT!!
John Wojnarowski
Since you want to sling statistics, California, which also borders Mexico, has 2,500 homicides per year. This is 300 more per year than the number you attributed to Texas. Maybe Gov. Newsome needs to reverse his border in the other direction as well. Or maybe the fact that California is a blue state while Texas is a red state is what saved California from your judgment.