Spooky Science Sisters

<p>We're two scientists and sisters (in-law) bringing you a podcast about the science behind all things strange and unusual, from the natural to the supernatural! So, put on your critical thinking caps and join us every other week for some creepy conversation and lots of laughter.</p>

The Phoenix Lights

On March 13, 1997, thousands of people across Arizona saw strange lights in the sky. They became known as the Phoenix Lights and remain one of the most-documented UFO sightings in US history. But what really happened in the desert that night to convince so many people they'd witnessed something otherworldly? (Hint: it's never aliens) ** Video of the first v-shaped formation of lights: https://youtu.be/_JATvJNjD6s?t=81 Video of the second set of hovering/falling lights (which, upon watching again, really just look like they're turning on and off "mysteriously" thanks to 1997 camcorder technology): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvKLeaPWPyw ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can buy it here: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://geni.us/spookyscience⁠⁠⁠⁠ Also, you can find information about our upcoming book events here: ⁠https://spookysciencesisters.com/2025/07/22/upcoming-book-events/⁠ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠⁠ ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience⁠⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠⁠ Threads: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠⁠ Substack: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Discord Server: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amazon Storefront: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

08-22
48:27

The Roswell Incident

In this episode, we break down the details of what became one of the most famous UFO incidents to ever occur. Initially dismissed (and accepted by the public) in 1947 as a weather balloon, Roswell would rocket to fame over 30 years later when a former Air Force intelligence officer came forward to say that the whole thing was a cover-up for a crashed alien spaceship. We're here to tell you that there actually was a cover-up at Roswell, but not for the reasons the ufology community believes... (We were a little wordy in our intro for this episode, so if you'd like to skip it, the Roswell discussion starts at ~15:00 for those listening with ads and ~13:40 for those listening without) ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can buy it here: ⁠⁠⁠https://geni.us/spookyscience⁠⁠⁠ Also, you can find information about our upcoming book events here: https://spookysciencesisters.com/2025/07/22/upcoming-book-events/ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! ⁠⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠ ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: ⁠⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience⁠⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠ Threads: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod⁠⁠⁠ Substack: ⁠⁠⁠https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠⁠ Discord Server: ⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH⁠⁠⁠ Amazon Storefront: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

07-25
39:46

The Wonderful World of Whirlpools

All of these years we've all been worried about quicksand would have been much better spent worried about whirlpools, which can occur naturally in the ocean and are capable not only of dragging people and small boats down to the depths, but have even almost captured a submarine! ** Videos of the Corryvrecken whirlpool and the standing waves that are also produced in the strait are included in Meagan's video here: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VY_9qC1dKBU ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: ⁠⁠https://geni.us/spookyscience⁠⁠ Preorder Bonus Incentive -> ⁠⁠https://www.quarto.com/campaign/spooky-science-preorder⁠⁠ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! ⁠⁠https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠ ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod⁠⁠ TikTok: ⁠⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience⁠⁠ Instagram: ⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod⁠⁠ Threads: ⁠⁠https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod⁠⁠ Substack: ⁠⁠https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠ YouTube: ⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠⁠ Discord Server: ⁠⁠https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH⁠⁠ Amazon Storefront: ⁠⁠https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

06-14
25:49

Frickin' Bats!

This episode is all about bats! These inherently spooky creatures have a bad reputation that dates back centuries and continues today because of the disease risk they pose to humans, but how much flak do these fuzzy flyers actually deserve? Also, did you know bats have belly buttons!? ** As mentioned in the episode, you can learn more about bat exposures and what to do if you think you've been exposed here: https://www.health.state.mn.us/diseases/rabies/risk/humanbat.html ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: ⁠https://geni.us/spookyscience⁠ Preorder Bonus Incentive -> ⁠https://www.quarto.com/campaign/spooky-science-preorder⁠ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! ⁠https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod⁠ ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: ⁠https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod⁠ TikTok: ⁠https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience⁠ Instagram: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod⁠ Threads: ⁠https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod⁠ Substack: ⁠https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠ YouTube: ⁠https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters⁠ Discord Server: ⁠https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH⁠ Amazon Storefront: ⁠https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

05-16
42:47

Five Year Anniversary Top Five Countdown

Join us for a celebration of the FIVE YEAR ANNIVERSARY (!!!) of Spooky Science Sisters and listen as we each countdown our top five topics or episodes of the show so far. Then, drop us a message or comment to let us know what your favorite is! ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: https://geni.us/spookyscience Preorder Bonus Incentive -> https://www.quarto.com/campaign/spooky-science-preorder ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod Substack: https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

04-25
47:47

The History & Science of UFOs

In this episode, we're revisiting the UFO phenomenon by taking a detailed look at their history in the United States, and how we ended up with the UAPs of today. What did Kenneth Arnold actually see on that fateful day in 1947? Why would the Air Force ever think it was good idea to reassure the public about UFOs by naming one of their investigations "Project Grudge?" Why is the Western U.S. the best place to spot UFOs? Let's talk about it! ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: https://geni.us/spookyscience Preorder Bonus Incentive -> https://www.quarto.com/campaign/spooky-science-preorder ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod Substack: https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

04-04
01:00:26

It's (Finally) Nessie Time!

Can you believe we haven't done a Loch Ness Monster episode before now? Neither can we! In this episode, we take a look at the foundational stories that established Nessie as the legendary cryptid we know and love today and discuss the geologic and biologic feasibility of a large, carnivorous reptile existing in a cold, not-so-ancient, Highland lake. ** Uncropped Surgeon's Photograph: https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/lochness/legend3.html 2025 Nessie sighting: https://nypost.com/2025/03/04/lifestyle/loch-ness-monster-sighting-reported-first-in-2025-fantastic/ ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: https://geni.us/spookyscience ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod Substack: https://substack.com/@spookysciencesisters YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

03-14
52:53

Medical Miracles with Tyson Kemp

In this Substitute Sister episode, Meagan is joined by friend of the podcast and spooky storyteller Tyson Kemp to tell you about two people and one chicken who miraculously survived three very harrowing medical emergencies. ** You can find Tyson on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tysonunkempt/ and TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@tysonunkempt/. He also recently launched a new horror fiction series on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UKp-cGAQA ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: https://geni.us/spookyscience ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

02-21
55:41

Short & Spooky 6

Welcome to our sixth round of short and spooky stories! In this round, we talk about the recent "drone" scare in the eastern United States, a Florida family's mysterious ball, and Benjamin Franklin's backyard body problem. ** WE WROTE A BOOK! And you can preorder it here: https://geni.us/spookyscience ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

01-31
57:15

Special Announcement!

We cannot tell you how difficult it has been to keep this secret for the last year and we are SO EXCITED to finally share what we were up to all of last summer. How did we get here, guys!? ** Preorder Link: https://geni.us/spookyscience ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

01-13
15:26

Killer Holidays

The holidays might not be as spooky as they once were, but turns out, they can still be killer. In this episode, we explore all of the dangers lurking behind this otherwise cheery time of year, from food poisoning to house fires to heart attacks. ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

01-03
01:16:58

A Day in the Life of a Professional Skeptic (Feat. Kenny Biddle)

In this episode, Meagan interviews Kenny Biddle, who recently took on the role of chief investigator for the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry and is now living the dream as a professional investigator of paranormal claims! ** You can find Kenny on Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/IAmKennyBiddle/), TikTok (https://www.tiktok.com/@kennybiddle42) and YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/@KennyBiddle). Kenny's Skeptical Inquirer articles can be found here: https://skepticalinquirer.org/authors/kenny-biddle/ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

12-13
01:01:51

The History of Ghosts Part 3

Welcome to the final episode of our series on the history of belief in ghosts! In this episode, we discuss the Victorians and their supposed fascination with death. We also review some statistics about modern day belief in ghosts. Also, neither Paige or Meagan can tell you how electricity works. ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

11-15
39:44

Halloween Listener Stories V

Happy Halloween and welcome to our fifth (!) annual listener stories episode where we discuss and debunk spooky stories sent in by listeners. This episode features three stories about a haunted forest, a haunted lightbulb, and finally, a haunted chapel! ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10-31
47:06

The History of Ghosts Part 2

Welcome to the second episode in our series on the history of ghosts! In this episode, we start in Ancient Greece and Rome (where you'll hear one of the most famous haunted house stories of all time), then make our way through the Americas, before heading back to medieval Europe. ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

10-11
34:59

The History of Ghosts Part 1

We're finally back! And we're starting off on a topic we're really excited about - the history of ghosts! In this episode, we'll start in prehistoric times and talk about what archaeological evidence might suggest about belief in ghosts, and then make our way through ancient Mesopotamia, Egypt, and China. ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

09-30
33:37

The Haunted (?) Blennerhassett Island with Tyson Kemp

Meagan is joined for our first official bonus episode (originally shared to Patreon last October) by friend of the podcast and fellow skeptic, Tyson Kemp, to talk about his ghost hunting experience on Blennerhassett Island located in West Virginia. As far as we're concerned, every potentially haunted island should come with a mysterious caretaker and House of the Dragon and Hamilton tie-ins.  ** You can find Tyson on Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tysonunkempt/ and TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@tysonunkempt/. He also recently launched a new horror fiction series on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4UKp-cGAQA ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

08-23
01:03:21

Spooky Plants with Dr. Vikram Baliga

Meagan is joined by Substitute Sister Dr. Vikram Baliga (AKA The Plant Prof of the Planthropology Podcast) to talk about eight of the world's spookiest plants. From plants with eyeballs to others that reportedly "eat" sheep, this episode has a little bit of everything for the horticulturally-minded. ** Links to Vikram's social media, his book, and the Planthropology Podcast can be found here: https://linktr.ee/theplantprof Pictures of the plants we discussed in this episode can be found on our social media using the links below. ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

06-14
59:09

Um, Yes Hello: It's Spooky Lakes with Geo Rutherford

For this episode, Meagan is joined by Geo Rutherford, an artist, author, and amateur limnologist, who is well known for her Spooky Lakes video series that takes place each October on TikTok and Instagram. We talk about what inspired Geo to become the internet's Lady of the Lakes, and take a dive into the haunted hydrology of three of the world's spookiest bodies of water. ** Links to Geo's social media, her upcoming book, and more can be found here: https://solo.to/geodesaurus Here is a link to Geo's video on adipocere: https://www.tiktok.com/@geodesaurus/video/7159372436042091822 If you are interested in seeing the photo of the body of Old Whitey from the Kamloops Shipwreck, you can visit this link: https://www.reddit.com/r/submechanophobia/comments/gls2ij/here_is_a_closer_image_of_old_whitey_in_the_ss/ ** Want to listen without the ads? Check out our Patreon, where you can get ad-free episodes & more! https://www.patreon.com/spookyscipod ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

05-10
01:19:14

The Fermi Paradox with Dr. Allison Kirkpatrick

Listeners, it has been way too long since we've talked about aliens. Let's fix that! In this episode, Meagan is joined again by Substitute Sister and astronomer, Dr. Allison Kirkpatrick, to talk about the Fermi Paradox, which asks us to consider why we haven't heard from any intelligent extraterrestrial life yet, especially given the likely large number of habitable planets in our own galaxy that could host it. ** Allison can be found on Twitter @AkAstronomy. The Drake Equation and another example of a solution can be found here: https://askanearthspacescientist.asu.edu/drake-equation The Barbie-doll woman Allison references is in the "Diagram of vertebrate evolution" seen here: https://voyager.jpl.nasa.gov/galleries/images-on-the-golden-record/#gallery-24 ** Links to our social media & more: Linktree: https://linktr.ee/spookyscipod TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@spookyscience Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/spookyscipod Threads: https://www.threads.net/@spookyscipod YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@spookysciencesisters Discord Server: https://discord.gg/vf7pC7GkbH Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/spookyscipod Amazon Storefront: https://www.amazon.com/shop/spookysciencesisterspodcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

04-12
01:06:32

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