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Author: Matt Mira and Andrew Secunda

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Podcast… the final frontier! "Star Trek: The Next Generation" devotee and authority Matt Mira leads Next Gen skeptic Andrew Secunda into the deepest reaches of the series episode by episode. Listen as they discuss, debate, and enjoy all the legendary show's strengths, failings, and innovations.

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Twitter: @StarTrekTNC
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DS9 s2e22 “The Wire”

DS9 s2e22 “The Wire”

2024-03-2002:12:18

A tour de force from recurring character Garak in bizarrely play-like long scenes hooks Andy and Matt, as Mr. Fasc-tastic (Mr. Fascistastic? Mr. Fascistic?) Odo checks the cameras he's hidden all around DS9. [Episode discussion begins around  58:00, takes a Letterman detour, then actually begins at 1:06ish]
The second part of this Maquis de Sade-centric two-parter, one of the few Treks to follow the possible Best of Both Worlds/Godfather II template of 2 being better than 1.  To Andy's shock, Odo show the Mr. Fantastic powers he always assumed he was hiding, and Dukat starts to live up to his (future) legend.  [Episode discussion begins around 1:00ish]
Is Bernie Casey a badmiral or a badactor?  Or neither?  And Dax is dating a Ferengi offscreen - is it Quark, who we are led to believe is making a turn from creep to charmer?  Meanwhile, Matt has HAD it with the Maquis.  Even though this is their first episode.  [Episode discussion start 1:08ish]
DS9 s2e19 “Blood Oath”

DS9 s2e19 “Blood Oath”

2024-02-0202:16:53

Jadzia gets tangled in a Klingon plot with bat'leths and convos about honor galore and Andy loves it!  Matt, predictably, feels otherwise.  Also predictably: Trill Talk!™[Episode discussion begins around 1:15ish]
Quark falls in love with a Cardassian and Andy tries to give Susan from SEINFELD her due. [Episode discussion begins around 1:25ish]
DS9 s2e17 “Playing God”

DS9 s2e17 “Playing God”

2024-01-0902:04:06

Jadzia Dax looks back on Jadzia's experiences, while Jadzia wonders what Curzon Dax was thinking - or is it Jadzia Dax that's wondering what Dax was thinking?  Also, a mini-universe, dead vole puppets, and Jake tries to get with a Dabo girl/woman.[Episode discussion begins around 52 minutes in]
DS9 s2e16 “Shadowplay”

DS9 s2e16 “Shadowplay”

2023-12-2902:06:291

Get ready for some hot wormhole action as Kira gets busy with a classic weird Trek "handsome man," Dax fixates on another tech monolith but doesn't immediately beam this one up, while Matt and Andy debate if Odo is connecting with an imaginary friend.[Episode discussion begins around 1:02]
DS9 s2e15 “Paradise”

DS9 s2e15 “Paradise”

2023-12-0602:06:171

Sisko gets boxed, O'Brien goes Rambo, DS9 introduces us to another loathsome class A psycho fanatic, Matt tries to avoid eviction, and Andy engages in the longest vamp ever.[VAMP WARNING: Technically the episode discussion begins around 1:03, but at 1:05ish Andy begins the LONGEST VAMP EVER, and when it finally ends, Matt discusses his landlord meltdown, so the episode discussion doesn't begin in earnest until 1:17ish]This month, as requested, Matt and Andy will be adding a little Christmas bonus in the TNC Patreon stocking with a commentary episode on THE MUPPET CHRISTMAS CAROL!www.patreon.com/startrektnc
DS9 s2e14 “Whispers”

DS9 s2e14 “Whispers”

2023-11-1302:03:011

O’Brien sorta thinks there’s an unspecified conspiracy when everybody (except Jake) starts acting a little weird!  Matt and Andy debate whether Bashir has diversified his creep interests into grabbing O’Brien’s strike zone for too long or if he’s just poking him in the tummy, like all future doctors do.  [Episode discussion begins 47:00ish]
O'Brien gets sick with a highly non-contagious biological weapon virus, Andy still sees no evidence of why Bashir would ever become beloved by fans, and Maurice Hurley is excited about a double homicide investigation which Keiko solves... or doesn't? [Episode discussion begins around 55:00ish]
Odo meets his daddy - is he a monster or a good daddy?  Meanwhile Matt has some issues with Dax having an itchy transporter finger and Bashir is back in gear as everybody’s favorite Deep Space Incel.    [Episode discussion start :59ish in]
DS9 s2e11 “Rivals”

DS9 s2e11 “Rivals”

2023-10-0302:30:48

O'Brien is a RIVAL with Bashir in the episode, and Quark has a RIVAL in Chris Sarandon!  And WHAT ELSE happens?? There's some little luck machines.  Odo wanders around in the back of some shots. Kira trips (offscreen). Don't bother buckling up for this one, crew.[Episode discussion begins around 1:26ish]  
DS9 s2e10 “Sanctuary”

DS9 s2e10 “Sanctuary”

2023-09-1802:25:45

The Bajorans give refugees the cold shoulder, the crew is SHOCKED at a matriarchal society, and the Universal Translator has more trouble with a new species than it even did in Darmok.[Episode discussion begins around 1:20ish, along with a lot of hails demanding we not tamper with the length (!)]FYI, if any of our Patreon crew have had problems with stupid Patreon rejecting your membership fees, please let us know.www.patreon.com/startrektnc
DS9 s2e9 “Second Sight”

DS9 s2e9 “Second Sight”

2023-09-0202:23:39

Matt and Andy debate whether an alien is a vanishing figment of Sisko’s imagination… or Batman! Meanwhile, the crew outdoes Alexander Rozhenko in HA HA HAs.[Episode discussion begins around 1:01ish]
DS9 s2e8 "Necessary Evil”

DS9 s2e8 "Necessary Evil”

2023-08-1802:12:27

We're in full-on Terok NOIR mode and Constable Odo is on the case! Meanwhile, Matt has a theory about what a "Cardassian neck trick" is, and a lizard extra needs a few more classes at the Andrew Secunda School of Specific Acting. [Episode discussion begins around 1:05]
Are the Ferengi adorable scamps or truly despicable?  Hard to tell in this light farce minus fun episode.  Tongo seems enjoyable, tho.  [Episode discussion begins about 53:00]
DS9 s2e6 “Melora”

DS9 s2e6 “Melora”

2023-07-2702:15:24

Dr. Bashir works overtime to engage in some extracurricular anti-gravity activities with a visiting alien while Matt and Andy wonder why Dax suddenly has super strength.  [Episode Discussion begins 1:07ish]
DS9 s2e5 “Cardassians”

DS9 s2e5 “Cardassians”

2023-07-1802:10:16

There's intrigue afoot and Gashir is on the case! Plus, a new couple of Andy's Theories™ and Matt and Andy debate who's more of a speciesist -- O'Brien or Keiko? [Episode discussion begins at about 1:08]Sign up for our Patreon for weekly coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS season 2, plus monthly episodes of VOYAGER!www.patreon.com/startrektnc
Dax gets into hot water as Odo stands around wishing he had some special ability which would stop intruding criminals, while Matt and Andy play another round of "Is Bashir being a creepo or just a caring friend-doctor?"[Episode discussion begins at a blisteringly fast 39:00 minutes!]Tune into our Patreon for our weekly coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS season 2 starting this week, crew!www.patreon.com/startrektnc
DS9 “The Siege” S2E3

DS9 “The Siege” S2E3

2023-06-0101:55:41

Andy is excited that Dax is finally employing the main reason it'd be cool to be a Trill, Steven Webber kills it as a slimy Bjoran (doing double-duty on WINGS?), and Matt shares a dumb opinion on French Onion Soup. [Episode discussion starts 55:00ish. If you're the type of crewman that wants to follow our next day coverage of STRANGE NEW WORLDS, season 3, check us out in the Patreon this month! www.patreon.com/startrektnc ]
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Comments (16)

Gabe Logan

Matt Mira is such a jerk. had to stop listening because of him

Aug 7th
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Mallory Duke

Matt Mira is by far my favorite podcaster. I hate that he likes "Devil's Due." It's awful.

Apr 12th
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Benjamin Gerstberger

6uiii0 -

Sep 16th
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Steven Mann

I was about to get upset that they skipped a week for episode 103 of this FREE podcast until I realized that Matt and his wife just welcomed their baby into the world! Congratulations! Also, this is one of my most favorite podcasts. I love how Matt and Andy just have fun with Star Trek, the sloppiness of the show and with each other. When they have fun I have fun.

Apr 30th
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Loretta Leo

GEEK REPLY RE: Transporter Chiefs. My guess is there's probably about 3 shifts per earth day. Chief O'Brian maybe home playing the bag pipes. Was O'Brian even in the show yet?

Jan 16th
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Loretta Leo

Kids certainly grow quickly. ..

Jan 15th
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William Beverly

FIRST TIME LISTENER... Just started listening to the podcast December 17 2018. I enjoy having you all with me as I deliver pizza. Thank you!

Dec 19th
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Brent Kemp

Guys, I love these guys. I love this show guys. I love this podcast guys. Andy's theories are very interesting because he's really smart! 10 Andy's, hands 🖖 down. Thanks Matt. Thanks Andy.

Oct 14th
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Adam Cousino

🖖🏻 I giving this 10 Andy’s 🖖🏻

Oct 10th
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Robert Easley

sszls

Oct 5th
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Cassie

I, for one, love Q.

Aug 28th
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KLS

🖖

Jul 20th
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Karen Reis

love the spoofy skits at the beginning. keep them coming. 😀

May 3rd
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Karen Reis

I love this podcast. Matt and Andy make me laugh so hard, and I'm loving going through tng again with them, even the first two seasons, which when watched alone are painful, but with them are greatly looked forward to.

Apr 12th
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