Star Wars Music Minute

Music theorist and film musicologist Dr. Frank Lehman returns to the show to discuss the final scene of the film (minutes 131-135)--which includes his favorite cue from The Rise of Skywalker score! We cover a ton of ground in this episode--including the growing-up of Rey's theme, the final cue as a strategic open text, the encoding of Darth Vader's theme throughout the Skywalker saga, mythic unity, dark religious imagery, and the semantic vs. emotional meanings of leitmotifs. Frank also reads us an exclusive preview of his upcoming book, The Skywalker Symphonies: Musical Storytelling in Star Wars! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 1:48 - How Frank's opinion of the movie has evolved since 2019. 11:32 - This music sustains and rewards independent listening. 15:35 - Listening to "A New Home" (a remarkably austere little cue) 17:39 - Strategic open text, sparse but not devoid of motivic connections. 23:30 - A cynical read and a charitable read. 26:44 - Darth Vader's melodic contour encoded in the arpeggio. 29:16 - Mythic unity, wholeness, unendingness. Poetic ending vs. narrative ending. 37:41 - Rey's theme grown-up. 45:26 - Chills (frisson) moment. 56:53 - Motivic echoes with Shmi's Funeral. 1:13:45 - Disappointing reuse of the Force theme leading into the credits. 1:23:29 - Friendship theme as in the concert arrangement. 1:29:34 - Anthem of Evil: The A-theme is a "bargain-basement Imperial March," but the B-theme is a gothic, Dracula-esque banger that got cut from the film. 1:41:45 - Wishing for more overt dark religious imagery in the film. 1:50:57 - Why is the Imperial March here? 2:07:29 - What used to be called the "Rebel Fanfare" is now called the "Millennium Falcon" theme on the cue sheets. 1:59:41 - What does Frank think of the use of Luke & Leia + Yoda's themes during the Celebration scene? Exclusive preview from his upcoming "Skywalker Symphonies" book. 2:18:01 - In what way is the Skywalker Saga "symphonically-scored?" 2:31:04 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker (Suite for Orchestra) - John Williams Signature Edition Orchestra Score - https://www.halleonard.com/product/4492547/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-suite-for-orchestra "Rey's Theme" performed by Anne-Sophie Mutter - https://youtu.be/bmBE6_gCTww?si=Y1gcUtRyoSLb6SpU Star Wars – The Rise of Skywalker - Piano Solo Songbook Softcover - https://www.halleonard.com/product/329240/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker Ludlow's Demise (From "The Lost World: Jurassic Park" Soundtrack) - https://youtu.be/iYeEIWhI7SU?si=WOJ3bf-REtwFn1Ie Anakin’s Theme and the Musical Aftermath of The Phantom Menace (article by Frank Lehman)- https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/07/30/anakins-theme-essay/ Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 45b. Rey A (Theme B-Phrase) 46a. Rey B (Chimes) 3. Force 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 2. Rebel Fanfare 18) Descending Heroic Tetrachords 17) Heroic Determination 57. Friendship 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) 10a. Imperial March (Theme) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 23. "A New Home" OST 18. "A New Home" OST 19. "Finale" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? TROS season: Never Ending Endings. ESB season: My lifelong obsession. Solo season: Vaguely remembered music. ANH season: Dissonant pedal notes. Minor planing triads. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? TROS season: The future of the mainline films. ESB season: What was going on in the scoring of Obi-Wan Kenobi? Solo season: Who will be main composer for the Kenobi series? ANH season: What are we musically in store for as Star Wars moves onto the next chapters of its development? What was the actual score to Episode IX supposed to be (before changes)? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? TROS season: The Rings of Power, Seasons 1 and 2 (composed by Bear McCreary) ESB season: White Lotus (series) (composed by Cristobal Tapia de Veer) Solo season: Severance (series) (composed by Theodore Shapiro) ANH season: Star Trek: The Motion Picture (1979) (composed by Jerry Goldsmith) --------------- Guest: Frank Lehman Website: https://franklehman.com/ Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars: https://franklehman.com/starwars/ A Guide to the Musical Themes of Indiana Jones: https://franklehman.com/indiana-jones-themes/ Book: Hollywood Harmony: Musical Wonder and the Sound of Cinema - https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Harmony-Musical-Wonder-Cinema/dp/0190606401 Book: Music Analysis and Film: Studying the Score (edited by Frank Lehman) - https://www.amazon.com/Film-Music-Analysis-Studying-Routledge/dp/0367430762 Look out for his upcoming book The Skywalker Symphonies: Musical Storytelling in Star Wars BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/franklehman.bsky.social ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/starwarsmusmin.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? 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In minutes 126-130 of The Rise of Skywalker, Ben and Leia become one with the Force and beings across the galaxy celebrate their victory against the Sith Eternal. Joining me today is Nathan Fontyn (from the ["Music By John Williams"](https://x.com/JWilliams_Fan) Twitter). We discuss John Williams's sentimental themes, his use of choir, and the "greatest hits" of Star Wars themes present in the "Reunion" cue. 

The good guys win! Reylo kiss! Ben Solo dies! Minutes 121-125 of The Rise of Skywalker are packed with action, romance, and melty 'splody faces. Joining me today is Ender Smith (AKA AurekFonts), who talks with me about subjective sound design, chiastic structure, how character deaths are scored in Star Wars, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 8:38 - "Avengers" moment slotted into the Force theme. 14:15 - Victory theme. 23:40 - Mallets as an orchestration tool. 27:30 - What even is the Rebel Fanfare anymore? 38:22 - Finn feeling the Force. 39:11 - Subjective sound design choices. 45:58 - Thud + timpani hit when Ben grabs the ledge. Ben's ascent. 50:44 - Kylo Ren "aggressive-lite" theme. 1:00:30 - "Inverse" Immolation Scene. 1:05:08 - Uber-romantic Rey's theme, tumbling down and climbing up. 1:12:27 - The music before Rey/Ben kiss is reused in an earlier part of the film. 1:22:53 - Ben Solo's Redemption (incidental motif) and brass chorales in Star Wars. 1:25:54 - The music accompanying various character deaths in Star Wars. 1:36:07 - Chiastic structure. 1:39:58 - Ben Solo vs. Anakin Skywalker. 1:45:44 - Thoughts about The Kiss and Ben Solo's death. 2:01:48 - Two-pronged approaches to victory in Star Wars (military strategy and Force strategy). 2:10:48 - Thoughts on the Citizen's Fleet showing up. 2:17:49 - SWMM Questionnaire. Things to Check Out: Barber: Adagio for Strings, Op. 11 - https://youtu.be/ajaMdRv0IK0?si=jBvX7-Q3-2coOfuR Pavane for a Dead Princess (Maurice Ravel): https://youtu.be/GKkeDqJBlK8?si=HmHnJjzKyCF9T8C4 Qui-Gon Death Scene: https://youtu.be/3Yaug3Xh7oQ?t=155 Chiastic structure: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiastic_structure Tchaikovsky: 'Romeo and Juliet' Fantasy Overture https://youtu.be/f6qZUCi7ToQ?si=aRIdulRl6YVWgTbU Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 3. Force 58. Victory 2. Rebel Fanfare 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 45b. Rey A (Theme B-Phrase) 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 116) Bittersweetness 113) Ben Solo's Redemption Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 15. "The Force Is with You" FYC 21. "Rescue" FYC 22. "Farewell" OST 16. "Farewell" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Mature score; improv. ESB season: Colorful, rollercoaster, crosstalk. Solo season: Actually close enough. (to John Williams) ANH season: California radio voiceovers 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: How the scoring process was done for the sequel trilogy. John Williams reportedly wrote a lot more music for this film than was actually used. Why? ESB season: The various vocal effects used for aliens and glissando lizards. He'd like to create a plug-in for a DAW. Solo season: How musical notation works in Star Wars. What does Bith notation look like for the Cantina Band? How about Max Rebo's charts? Does he read sheet music or play by ear? ANH season: The making of one musical cue from start to finish 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Lord of the Rings (composed by Howard Shore), The Muppet Christmas Carol (composed by Miles Goodman with songs written by Paul Williams) ESB season: Looper (composed by Nathan Johnson) Solo season: The Village (composed by James Newton Howard) ANH season: Knives Out (composed by Nathan Johnson) --------------- Guest: Ender Smith (AurekFonts) Twitter: https://twitter.com/AurekFonts BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/aurekfonts.bsky.social Github: https://aurekfonts.github.io/ More fonts: https://crowntype.com/ Womprat (Star Wars font): https://womprat.xyz ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/starwarsmusmin.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 116-120 of The Rise of Skywalker, Palpatine unleashes Force lightning on the Resistance fleet, Rey gets a boost from the voices of Jedi past, Sidious declares that he is all the Sith, and Rey retorts that she is all the Jedi. Oh, and Palpatine has a really bad time as he disintegrates from his own Force lightning. 😬 Joining me today are Justin Scheid and James Waterman from The Band Batch! We discuss Palpatine's seismic energy bolt, blowing out speakers, how to make risers, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 8:31 - Really Bad Feeling/Final Countdown 18:34 - Palpatheme into Sith Whispers (Darth Maul throwback). 23:34 - Which Kylo Ren theme is this? 30:43 - Do film composers pre-write functional transitional music? 34:22 - Breaking down the elements that can contribute to a musical "riser." 43:54 - Analyzing Palpatine's big lightning bolt/seismic energy sound thingy 48:47 - Sonic visualizer demonstration, spectral frequency. 1:00:46 - J.J. Abrams, Dave Acord, and Matt Wood on the Force lightning sound. 1:02:43 - Soulja Boy, car bass, blowing out your speakers. 1:17:11 - Tragic, Star Wars-y, 4-3 suspensions. 1:21:31 - Inverted pedal point, Rey's Chimes theme, voices of the past Jedi. 1:35:13 - Hearing the lightsabers before we see them. Seamless orchestration/sound design. 1:40:56 - Chord goes sour. 1:47:13 - Palpatine's vocal fry. 1:56:42 - Demonstrating power through psychological warfare vs. brute force. 2:08:59 - They shot this Sith auditorium sequence at Bad Robot in LA. 2:19:47 - SWMM Questionnaire. 2:29:46 - Justin's top 3 droids. Things to Check Out: Sonic Visualiser (free app): https://www.sonicvisualiser.org/ Aphex Twin spectogram song: Spectrogram] Aphex Twin / ΔMi−1 = −∂Σn=1NDi[n][Σj∈C{i}Fji[n − 1] + Fexti[[n−1] - https://youtu.be/wSYAZnQmffg?si=T8RsEABxwFbSiZG_ Soulja Boy’s music is too loud - https://youtu.be/aAEAf60_iX8?si=wjdAj1pEGRSsoJ_c Sound clash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_clash Zaireeka (Flaming Lips album): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaireeka Return of the Jedi before Ben appears on Dagobah Barber: Adagio for Strings, Op. 11 - https://youtu.be/ajaMdRv0IK0?si=jBvX7-Q3-2coOfuR Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 110) Really Bad Feeling 1b. Main Theme (B Section) 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 17. Emperor 45) Sith Whispers 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 41b. Kylo Ren 1.5 (Redeemed) 46a. Rey B (Chimes) 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 3. Force Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 15. "The Force Is with You" FYC 20. "Seeing Sights" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Justin: New answer: Epic, sweeping, grandiose. ESB season: Nar. Ra. Tive. SOLO season: Grandiose, sweeping, futuristic. ANH season: Pew pew pew. James: New answer: Peace and promise. ESB season: Pew. Vrooppf. Rrrrrr. SOLO season: Bum bum bum. ANH season: The Band Batch. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? Justin: New answer: I'd love to see the sound library of Star Wars--every Star Wars-approved sound that the artists get to pick from, the tree of folders, etc. Also, how many sounds are created and not used? Also, what's the process of thinking about droid sounds? ESB season: Who makes the decision to replace dialogue? SOLO/ANH season: How is all the foley done? James: New answer: How does the timing at scoring sessions work out (especially knowing that John Williams didn't tend to use a click track)? ESB season: When original voice actors are replaced by new people, what are those industry conversations like? Is there something in the actors' contracts about the possibility of being replaced? What about SAG, legal specifics, etc? SOLO season: What is on-set sound like? ANH season: What is John Williams's writing process like? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? Justin: New answer: Hook (John Williams), War of the Worlds (John Williams), It Follows (DisasterPeace), Smile (Cristobal Tapia de Veer), I Saw the TV Glow. ESB season: It Follows (DisasterPeace). SOLO season: Stranger Things (Kyle Dixon/Michael Stein), War of the Worlds (John William) ANH season: The Village (James Newton Howard). James: New answer: The Darjeeling Limited soundtrack, The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou soundtrack. ESB answer: The Shining (Wendy Carlos). SOLO answer: Untitled (David Lang) ANH answer: Hereditary (Colin Stetson). --------------- Guests: Justin Scheid and James Waterman Justin Scheid Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jcscheid/ Bandcamp: https://raingoatmusic.bandcamp.com Soundcloud: https://www.soundcloud.com/rain-goat-music YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrlciBsEZTCnF7uK3S1NBXw James Waterman: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jameswatermanmusic Twitter: https://twitter.com/JamesWaterman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/jameswaterman Bandcamp: https://jerichojericho.bandcamp.com/ Website: https://www.jameswatermanmusic.com/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/starwarsmusmin.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? 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In minutes 111-115 of The Rise of Skywalker, Rey Force-transfers her lightsaber to Ben, Palpatine sucks the life out of the Dyad, and Lando shows up with a massive Citizens' Fleet ready to join the fight. Christina Ward (from The Band Batch) returns to the show to analyze Palpatine's vocal delivery from an operatic speak-singing perspective. We also discuss Disney villains, Verdi's Macbeth, purposely-ugly music, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 11:42 - Orchestration during Sith Whispers. 24:53 - Palpatine's misogyny. 33:35 - Magical, childlike twinklies. 35:15 - Breathing of Rey and Ben. 38:10 - Additional details from the novelization. Do they make a difference? 46:51 - First Thrawn reference. 53:35 - "Really Bad Feeling" motif. 59:05 - Coordinated "stab" from the orchestra. 1:00:13 - Rey's Chimes theme and types of motion in music. 1:09:33 - Emphasized sound of the lightsabers being dragged. 1:22:24 - Mystery Motif, ascending minor arpeggios with a flat 6. Bernard Herrmann's influence. 1:31:58 - Analyzing Palpatine's vocal delivery: rhythmic structure, pitch, speak-singing (sprechstimme). 1:37:59 - Verdi, recitative, characterful singing, Disney songs. 1:41:06 - Sprechstimme in the work of Schoenberg, Berg, Schreker, and other early 20th century composers. 1:48:46 - Palpatine's line ("The Jedi are dead") almost sounds like singing. 1:51:20 - Comparing this scene to Jeremy Irons's performance as Scar in The Lion King. 2:01:07 - Notation of "Sith Whispers" according to Frank Lehman. 2:05:21 - Verdi's Macbeth and purposely ugly-sounding music (witches chorus). 2:19:21 - Critiquing Poe's leadership. 2:29:33 - Giving us a victory so we can have a tragedy. 2:37:41 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Sprechgesang: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang Types of motion: https://musictheory.pugetsound.edu/mt21c/TypesOfMotion.html Verdi "Macbeth" - Che faceste? Dite su! (Witches) - https://youtu.be/PMbxBDIWOFs?si=mAzWmo8OIcv_D1oC Scar Becomes King (begin at 0:50): https://youtu.be/f9nAcuRioTc?si=svWk96lTzuFs5LjS Lion King Stampede (first 9 seconds): https://youtu.be/x__EVvWUT3A?feature=shared Football Crowd Chants 'Defence' into Medium Cheer Take 3 (0:02-0:08 'crowd shouting defense'): https://youtu.be/ASDL034oxS0 TROS 10: Dialogue Is the Melody (Minutes 46-50 with Camila Quiñones) - https://www.starwarsmusicminute.com/podcast/tros-10-dialogue-is-the-melody Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 41b. Kylo Ren 1.5 (Redeemed) 45) Sith Whispers 61b. Knights of Ren (Slow Form) 3. Force 110) Really Bad Feeling 52a. Tension (Basic Motif) (arguably, perhaps) 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 46a. Rey B (Chimes) 34b. Mystery (Form 2) 18) Descending Heroic Tetrachords 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 1b. Main Theme (B Section) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 19. "Coming Together" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Growing bacteria culture. ESB answer: Heartfelt. Direct. Dramatic. Solo answer: Droids. Hopeful. Dramatic. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: Will there continue to be pop collaborations in Star Wars, like with "Twin Flame" (Victoria Monét) in The Acolyte. ESB answer: What the aural representation of Chiss brainwaves, particularly Sky-walkers, would be. Solo answer: What are the thematic relationships that tie the dark side with Imperialism, musically speaking? Similarly, what musical relationships tie the light side with rebellion and goodness? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Bleach (anime series composed by Shirō Sagisu) ESB answer: Ms. Marvel (composed by Laura Karpman) and Moon Knight (composed by Hesham Nazih) Solo answer: Dune (music composed by Hans Zimmer, sound team led by Mark Mangini and Theo Green) --------------- Guest: Christina Ward Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/xtverse.studio/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social and https://bsky.app/profile/starwarsmusmin.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 106-110 of The Rise of Skywalker, Ben Solo arrives on the scene, bringing with him a new, redeemed musical theme! As J.J. Abrams puts it, we "make the trip from Ren to Ben." I'm pleased to be joined by Samantha Tripp for an in-depth discussion about this huge moment in the score.  Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 6:59 - "Approaching the Throne" 14:23 - Sith Wayfinder motif with and without Kylo Ren's Hesitant theme in the background. 18:22 - Two main set pieces happening at once. Battle sounds from ground and space. 25:30 - Quintessential Williams action scoring. "Finn and Jannah at War" set piece theme. 36:29 - Why John Williams loves concert arrangements. 43:25 - March of the Resistance sounds less "march-y" here; it's melodically and rhythmically stretched out. 51:11 - Don Williams (JW's timpanist brother). 57:15 - LA Master Chorale in the Sith Auditorium. 1:08:08 - Is Palpatine's voice more echoey here? Rey's? 1:11:07 - Is Psalm of the Sith subtly woven into this part? 1:21:17 - This part reminds us of "The Immolation Scene" (Revenge of the Sith) and Barber's Adagio for Strings. 1:34:19 - Kylo Ren Redeemed theme! 1:40:37 - J.J. Abrams asking John Williams to "make the trip from Ren to Ben." 1:51:29 - Visualizing Kylo Ren/Ben Solo themes with a cool intervals + emotions tool (Sentisonics). 1:59:57 - Ben's good boy theme getting faster, more hopeful. 2:08:49 - Emperor's Theme (extremely hard to hear in the film, but it's on the FYC soundtrack). 2:16:32 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Don Williams interview dropping hints for TROS... Unfortunately, the video seems to have been taken down! If anyone has an alternate link for it, please send it along! "Adagio for Strings" (Samuel Barber) - https://youtu.be/izQsgE0L450?si=r1oP8AM2tQpYBYEH "The Immolation Scene" (from Revenge of the Sith by John Williams) - https://youtu.be/HUpipZMNGhA?si=PqGT3KWhXi83EBlt Cellist Erika Duke-Kirkpatrick on "The Kiss" - https://youtu.be/nHrblao5iWk?si=zJQB-x8gI32lJ8Ih&t=2193 Interval test from Dennis Hamm's ESB episode - https://youtu.be/J13zvJCEyyg?si=j2DS_V1cDE_SjgY6&t=5677 Sentisonics: https://sentisonics.com/ Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: Approaching The Throne Sith Artifacts (Wayfinder) March of the Resistance (A Section) Kylo Ren 1.5 (Redeemed) Sith Whispers Emperor Psalm of the Sith (A Section) SPM - Finn and Jannah At War Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 14. "Approaching the Throne" FYC 17. "Approaching the Throne" FYC 18. "Parents" FYC 19. "Coming Together" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Dramatic. Colorful. Home. ESB season: Texture. Motion. Thematic. SOLO season: Powerful, evocative, grandiose ANH season: Powerful, evocative, grandiose 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: Would love more of the personal stories behind the music teams of Star Wars. Relatedly, Sam is working on a database of Star Wars music personnel. ESB season: More about the behind-the-scenes people: recording engineers, music editors, orchestra librarians, contractors, etc. SOLO season: Musician stories from recording the sequel films, particularly The Rise of Skywalker. ANH season: What was it like for the musicians recording the original trilogy, particularly the first film? Did they realize that they were playing something so iconic? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Outlander (TV series composed by Bear McCreary). Indiana Jones 5 (composed by John Williams) ESB season: The Shape of Water (Alexandre Desplat) SOLO season: The Shape of Water (composed by Alexandre Desplat) ANH season: Spider-Man: No Way Home (composed by Michael Giacchino) --------------- Guest: Samantha Tripp YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@samanthatripp8622 John Williams conference videos: https://mediaserveur.univ-evry.fr/channels/#john-williams Recursive References and In-Universe Instances of the Imperial March (presentation with Frank Lehman at MaMI conference) - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYV7O3uSZn0  "Marion's Theme" (Flute and Piano Arrangement performed by Samantha Tripp and Frank Lehman) - https://youtu.be/If8YWYJPb28?si=FztVp_gFl4yBmXe9 ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? 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In minutes 101-105 of The Rise of Skywalker, Finn has a Force feeling, Finn and Jannah ride obraks toward the Steadfast's navigation tower, and Rey approaches her grandfather on the Sith throne. John Hoey from The Resistance Broadcast returns to the show to discuss trumpet cascades, Sith geiger counters, Finn's Force sensitivity, Palpatine's home field advantage, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 4:55 - The sound in TROS "goes bigger." 12:37 - Approaching the Throne motif (thumping bass). 23:42 - Heavy metal riff, a la Metallica. 25:13 - "Trumpet Cascade" examples from TROS, ESB, and ROTJ. 30:40 - Thoughts on the Force theme for Finn's moment. 40:15 - Weird Force theme; versatility of the Force theme. 49:30 - Bass notes quicken as Rey gets closer to the throne. 52:29 - Glissando demonstration. 55:34 - Sith Whispers. 59:50 - Ominous Rey's theme. 1:06:41 - "Palpatine's Instructions" motif used here as Palpatine instructs Rey and in ROTS when Palpatine instructs Anakin. 1:09:51 - Monophonic line tries to ascend while collapsing in on itself. 1:16:55 - Matt Wood and Dave Acord on creating Exegol sound design, looping in Ian McDiarmid. 1:26:52 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: "Disposable Heroes" (Metallica): https://youtu.be/dzssbzIsmqU?si=0WE34kPiygxaXzUm Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 115) Approaching The Throne 17. Emperor 35) Trumpet Cascade 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 3. Force 61a. Knights of Ren (Fast Form) 45) Sith Whispers 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 77) Palpatine's Instructions Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 16. "Battle of the Resistance" OST 13. "Battle of the Resistance" OST 14. "Approaching the Throne" FYC 17. "Approaching the Throne" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: One of one. Solo answer: Endlessly imaginative adventure. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: I'd love to understand how John Williams calls back to things. Does he have a bag of tricks to pull from? How does he come to those things? Solo answer: The future of Star Wars music. Will there be one main composer that takes over for John Williams, or will it continue being more of a per project thing like it is with Natalie Holt, Ludwig Göransson, etc? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Batman (1989) (composed by Danny Elfman) Solo answer: Catch Me If You Can (composed by John Williams), Psycho (composed by Bernard Herrmann), The Batman (composed by Michael Giacchino), Man of the Steel (composed by Hans Zimmer) --------------- Guest: John Hoey BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/johnnyhoey.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/JohnnyHoey Resistance Broadcast: https://linktr.ee/trbpodcasts Nerdy and Nice (podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/nerdy-nice-a-pop-culture-podcast/id1744938750 Just Like the Movies (podcast): https://anchor.fm/justlikethemovies ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: BlueSky: https://bsky.app/profile/chrysanthetan.bsky.social Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 96-100 of The Rise of Skywalker, Artoo restores Threepio's memory, Finn and Poe give an inspiration speech to the Resistance fighters, and Rey lands on Exegol. My Aussie friend Catherine Kneen joins me to talk about one-line-at-a-time dialogue, chunky button pushes, the many components of March of the Resistance, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 4:17 - Emotional scene leading into Artoo chirping. 7:40 - Chunky button pushes. 15:31 - Why not Luke's theme with the mention of Luke? 20:31 - Minor chords traversing the circle of fifths. We also heard this back on Kef Bir when they were looking at the Death Star wreckage. 26:09 - What makes March of the Resistance sounds so part of the Star Wars language? 34:54 - Catherine's background with classical music. 42:49 - A very fantastical strategy meeting where no one talks over each other. 47:10 - Missed opportunities with Rose. 52:31 - Increasingly awkward "one-line-at-a-time" dialogue. 57:58 - Are there too many inspirational speeches in newer Star Wars? 1:01:55 - March of the Resistance A and B themes. 1:07:48 - March of the Resistance C theme. 1:12:13 - Interesting editing of this timeline (speech-montage-speech). 1:15:37 - Journey to Exegol motif. This part of the movie possibly tempted with ROTS. 1:18:55 - Rey's theme superimposed on top of Journey to Exegol motif. 1:22:52 - Unethical production methods of the Empire/First Order. 1:29:07 - Brief musical respite before the Emperor's theme comes in. 1:34:43 - Catherine's favorite Star Wars sounds. 1:41:54 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 57. Friendship 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section) 58. Victory 47b. March of the Resistance (B Section) 47c. March of the Resistance (Connective Motif) 106) Journey to Exegol 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 17. Emperor Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 11. "They Will Come" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Emotions. Timeless. Magic. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? What did the orchestra who first recorded Star Wars think of the score? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? The Commitments (soundtrack) --------------- Guest: Catherine Kneen That Geek Pod: https://thatgeekpod.podbean.com/ Catherine is also a frequent guest on Star Wars Spelt Out! https://starwarsspeltout.com Twitter: https://x.com/Catherine_Kneen ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 91-95 of The Rise of Skywalker, Luke stops Rey from throwing her lightsaber into the fire and raises his old X-wing from the water. Jeremy Sawruk returns to the show to discuss orchestration flavorings, the re-use of the iconic "Yoda and the Force" cue, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 3:09 - Poe's theme. 4:53 - March of the Resistance orchestration adding mystery. 8:54 - Intervals getting smaller (resignation) then bigger (energy). 13:41 - Luke catches the lightsaber and walks through fire. 19:01 - Classic mentor conversation. 23:52 - Lots of rubato. Force theme orchestrated in an atypical register. 24:52 - Jedi Steps Variant, lightsaber burrito. 28:30 - Harmonic resolution in Leia's theme. 33:29 - Troubled-sounding Main Theme. 39:04 - Rey, computer hacker. 41:48 - Same bit of score from "Yoda and the Force," but it's faster here than in ESB. 47:49 - Delightful, chromatically-dancing flutes. 51:04 - As a composer, what is in your personal toolbox of techniques/signature sounds? 53:22 - Orchestration is like cooking & seasoning. 57:42 - Analyzing the Friendship theme. Melody goes up while chord goes down. 1:04:55 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: The Flavor Bible (book): https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/4443485-the-flavor-bible ESB 15: Yoda and the Wolf (Minutes 71-75 with Fr. David and Trevor Mowry) - https://www.starwarsmusicminute.com/podcast/esb-15-yoda-and-the-wolf TROS 9: Symmetrical Design (Minutes 41-45 with Dominic Sewell) - https://www.starwarsmusicminute.com/podcast/tros-9-symmetrical-design Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 49. Poe 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section) 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 3. Force 112) Jedi Steps (Variant) 4. Leia 114) Luke Trains Leia 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 57. Friendship 12a. Yoda (A Section) Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 6. "Destiny of a Jedi" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Brass. Adventure. Heroic. ESB answer: Space. Brass. Droids. Solo answer: Big octatonic brass ANH answer: Opera without words 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: Getting into the technical details/weeds about instrumental/orchestration decisions. ESB answer: The creation of the sound effects/sound design. Can I recreate some of these sounds on my ARP 2600? Solo answer: The score for Obi-Wan Kenobi. ANH answer: Musical / orchestrational “filler” and sound effects/foley. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Only Murders in the Building (series) by Siddhartha Khosla, Birdman composed by Antonio Sánchez ESB answer: The Matrix by Don Davis, Bob's Burgers (series) composed by Loren Bouchard Solo answer: Star Trek by Jerry Goldsmith, Wall-E by Thomas Newman ANH answer: North by Northwest by Bernard Herrmann, Loki by Natalie Holt, Catch Me If You Can by John Williams --------------- Guest: Jeremy Sawruk Soundcloud: https://soundcloud.com/jsawruk Instagram: https://instagram.com/composer314 Substack: https://substack.com/@composer314 ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 86-90 of The Rise of Skywalker, Ben Solo speaks to his dad and throws his lightsaber into the sea. Pete and Alex from Star Wars Minute join me today to talk about 80s TV robots, high school coach pep talks, the "woob woob woob" sound, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 3:00 - Music that reminds Pete of David Lynch's DUNE. 4:55 - Harrison Ford's gruff mumbling in movies; Matt Wood's portable ADR studio. 10:21 - "Calm before the storm" strings; comparing this to the scene with Rey on Pasaana. 15:09 - Inadvertent "Ben Kenobi" theme (from the show)? "Untwisted" version of Anthem of Evil. 21:26 - Do you notice differences between John Williams's music for the Original Trilogy vs. Sequel Trilogy? 20:07 - Somber resignation theme. 31:32 - Anthem of Evil properly twisted again. 35:26 - "woob woob woob" telemetry ambience reminiscent of the Death Star and Aunt Beru's kitchen; Ben Burtt's short wave radio recordings. 45:11 - Unique blast sound from the planet-killing weapon; "tubularity." 56:51 - Why doesn't Beaumont Kin translate the Sith inscription on the dagger? 1:00:52 - Charlie on Lost. 1:04:45 - Xanthe's least favorite line of dialogue in TROS. 1:10:50 - Vague high school coach pep talks. 1:19:49 - D-O sounds like an 80s TV robot. 1:25:18 - General Pryde, Captain Phasma, and Richard E. Grant. 1:32:12 - Alex and Pete pitch their ideas for the next special edition ROTJ. 1:35:02 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Mustafar Takes Los Angeles: https://mustafarla.com The Great Kamino Kaper: https://kaminokaper.com The Naboo Movie: https://naboomovie.com Getting Lost (documentary): https://gettinglostdoc.com Blast Points (podcast) Episode 414: Name That Star Wars Sound - https://blastpointspodcast.com/2024/08/27/episode-414-name-that-star-wars-sound/ Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 100) Resignation 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) 17. Emperor 4. Leia 3. Force Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 15. "Advice" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Pete: woob woob woob (Previously: Pneumatic machinery sounds. Short wave radio. Aunt Beru's kitchen.) Alex: Ben Burtt's closet. (Previously: Imperial walker clanking. Elephant on blacktop. Tchew tchew tchew. Majestic French horns.) 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? Pete: What percentage of each movie contains music? ESB answer: "What is That? (with Ben Burtt)" (a TV show proposal) SOLO answer: Pete wants to watch the movie with no added sound/music; ideally just what was captured on set. ANH answer: Pete wants to watch a sound design commentary from Ben Burtt or any sound department special. (Previously: "What Is That? with Ben Burtt (TV show proposal). Pete wants to watch sound design commentary from Ben Burtt or any sound department special. Pete wants to watch the movie with no added sound/music; ideally just what was captured on set) Alex: Does John Williams rewatch the old movies? ESB answer: Ugnaught noises. SOLO answer: Why don't the musicians get listed in the credits (sometimes)? ANH answer: Alex wants a documentary featurette explaining what the process of scoring a film is. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? Pete: G.I. Joe: A Real American Hero (1983 TV series) and The Transformers (1984 TV series), both composed by Johnny Douglas and Robert J. Walsh. The Addams Family (1964 TV series) composed by Vic Mizzy. ESB answer: Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan SOLO answer: Fight Club ANH answer: The Black Hole (composed by John Barry) Alex: Magnolia (soundtrack largely features Aimee Mann) ESB answer: The Royal Tenenbaums SOLO answer: Magnolia (soundtrack largely features Aimee Mann) ANH answer: Superman (composed by John Williams) --------------- Guests: Pete the Retailer and Alex Robinson (Star Wars Minute) Star Wars Minute: https://linktr.ee/starwarsminute Revenge of the Sith live reading: https://mustafarla.com The Phantom Menace live reading: https://naboomovie.com Attack of the Clones live reading: https://kaminokaper.com Pete the Retailer: Website: https://petetheretailer.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PeteTheRetailer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/peterbonavita/ ABCD:TOS: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/abcd-tos/id1531020539 Alex Robinson: Website: https://alexrobinson.fun Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/arobtwit/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/ARobTwit Godfather Minute: https://godfatherminute.tumblr.com/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? 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In minutes 81-85 of The Rise of Skywalker, we witness a major turning point in the narrative: Rey stabs Kylo, Leia dies, and Rey heals Kylo's wound. I'm happy to have Dan Golding back on the show to discuss bummer remixes, botched Force themes, John Williams's post-Jurassic Park action music, and more!  Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 5:44 - Where this movie is really successful. 11:26 - Dan is a Star Wars pragmatist. 14:51 - Adam Driver. 22:29 - John Williams's post-Jurassic Park action music. 31:04 - Fight choreography & perceiving the soundtrack as the battle itself. 39:15 - Is this an example of "meanwhile" music? 44:23 - Stylistic addition of the slow-mo in the sequels. 52:55 - The Bummer Remix. 1:04:42 - On supposedly new Force powers. 1:10:51 - Brief rant about the use of the Force theme in Rebels. 1:18:13 - The meter and tempo are so flexible that it sounds like John Williams extemporizing. 1:20:20 - If there's a spotting mistake in this sequence, it's this. 1:30:08 - Dan reflects on the unique time in the fandom during which he wrote his book (Star Wars After Lucas). 1:40:11 - Nostalgia works in a weird way when it comes to series and franchises. 1:50:29 - Spurts of dreamy plunks. 1:52:06 - When you heard "Hey kid" in the theater, who did you think it was? 1:55:25 - Han & Leia concert arrangement that sounds more resolved. 2:07:27 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: "The Forest Battle" by John Williams (from Return of the Jedi) - https://youtu.be/ebCnaPzteZM?si=Rd8wBUL7AoPOmXDQ "Adagietto" from Mahler's Symphony No. 5 - https://youtu.be/Les39aIKbzE?si=7RMeS8PuIGPwKzSD Barber's "Adagio for Strings" : https://youtube.com/watch?v=WAoLJ8GbA4Y Force theme as heard in Star Wars: Rebels - https://youtu.be/dYQZVR1f_Hg?si=WFRz--jLNluddyH3&t=95 Powers of Ten™ (1977) (Charles and Ray Eames) - https://youtu.be/0fKBhvDjuy0?si=Gqm9mFMGfXCvJM6h Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) Force Leia Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 12. "The Final Saber Duel" FYC 13. "Final Saber Duel" FYC 14. "Healing Wounds" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Nostalgic orchestral vocabulary. Previous answers: Nimble orchestral nostalgia. Mythic orchestral memory. Elegant musical storytelling. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: What will it take for Disney to release (more) complete editions of the sequel trilogy soundtracks? Previous answers: What will Natalie Holt's soundtrack for the Obi-Wan Kenobi series sound like? Given all the new directions that various Star Wars scores have gone since John Williams was at the helm (ex. Solo: A Star Wars Story, The Mandalorian, The Book of Boba Fett, etc), will we ever return to the original sort of orchestral sound? The unreleased music (and alternate cues, etc). 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: The Fabelmans (composed by John Williams) Previous answers: Watership Down (composed by Angela Morley) and Vertigo (composed by Bernard Herrmann). Fleishman Is in Trouble (composed by Caroline Shaw). --------------- Guest: Dan Golding Website: https://dangolding.com/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/dangolding Art of the Score podcast: https://www.artofthescore.com.au/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanGoldingVideoEssays Bandcamp: https://dangolding.bandcamp.com/ Mastadon: @dangolding@mastodon.social Book: Star Wars After Lucas by Dan Golding: https://dangolding.com/star-wars-after-lucas/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 76-80 of The Rise of Skywalker, Rey meets Dark Rey and duels Kylo Ren on the Death Star wreckage. Composer and choral conductor Steve Danielson joins me today to talk about Williams-y action scoring, tritone stability, shame spirals, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 8:58 - Stress underscore. 11:49 - What is the movie trying to say with Dark Rey? 17:50 - The stability of tritones in harmony vs. melody. 21:04 - Kylo trying to drag Rey down into his shame spiral. 26:31 - Psalm of the Sith/Rey's theme fakeout. 28:37 - A very John Williams-y action moment. 31:07 - Downward minor brass arpeggio emphasizing 6th scale degree. 37:21 - Shift to mournful music and Leia's theme. 46:27 - Maz love. 50:50 - The absence of music. 52:11 - Rey acting on impulse vs. considering her actions. 1:06:32 - Final thoughts on these minutes and the movie. 1:12:05 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: The Great Kamino Kaper (AOTC live staged reading): https://kaminokaper.com Vocal Spectrum - Cruella De Vil - https://youtu.be/YU9rUXf11zQ?si=FPCVcC8GkfXmFXWv Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 10a. Imperial March (Theme) 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) 100) Resignation (I think) 4. Leia Where are we in the soundtrack?: nowhere... --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Epicness. Imagination. Thoroughness. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? I'd love to sit down with John Williams and talk about how he comes up with his themes. What sort of connections are you trying to make to previous themes? What characterization of this particular character are you looking to represent? 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? Cocktail (1988) soundtrack Amadeus (1984) soundtrack featuring an extensive selection of Mozart pieces --------------- Guest: Steve Danielson Moveable Do podcast - https://moveabledo.com Compositions: https://sdcompose.weebly.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@choirsteve Twitter/X: https://x.com/SDCompose Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/choirsteve I Want to Know - from Rogue One: A Star Wars Musical - https://youtu.be/I5zvVd9lBwg?si=_hDq0PpOjmPYklok Save the Dream - from Rogue One: The Musical - https://youtu.be/5PAABa8xUUc?si=Q6qoCajCD8ihknUU Before Long (from Solo: A Star Wars Musical) - https://youtu.be/TRfG7zdxRg0?si=fe4Pn-YtxGfqHQiG ------------------ ⭐️ Join my Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 71-75 of The Rise of Skywalker, Finn and Jannah connect about their stormtrooper pasts and Rey sets out for the Death Star wreckage by herself. Kris AKA StarWarsLawyer joins me for a discussion about stormtrooper Force sensitivity, the foreboding tendencies of "water adventure" music, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 4:29 - Stormtroopers and the Force. 10:39 - "Neutral Conversation Music." 14:18 - The "I have to tell you something" trope. 19:50 - Droids as sonic palate cleansers. 20:59 - Pirate-y, adventure-y music for Rey in the skimmer. 24:13 - "Water" music vs. "flying" music. 26:27 - Listener request for flying and/or water-related music. 29:25 - Kris's theory about Force empathy. 35:29 - Was J.J. Abrams planning a Finn backstory? 39:00 - Rey's unfamiliarity with greenery, rain, and the sea. 45:14 - Does this musical echo hint at Finn's Force sensitivity? 54:57 - Imperial March a la Return of the Jedi. 59:00 - Artificial harmonics explanation/demonstration. 1:08:37 - Other examples in Star Wars that use artificial harmonics (with or without the Imperial March) in a similar way. 1:16:15 - Thoughts on Rey Kenobi, Rey Nobody, Rey Skywalker, Rey Palpatine. 1:20:38 - Kris presents evidence to support Jannah's Force sensitivity. 1:25:38 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Hans Zimmer - Flight (Man of Steel) - https://youtu.be/w4OdIOGBW2Q?si=stshxbTs0i5IfXw7 Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 50) Neutral Conversation Music 3. Force 111) Across the Seas 10a. Imperial March (Theme) Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 4. "The Old Death Star" FYC 12. "Off the Waterfront" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New answer: Ethereal. Panoptic. Permeating. Previously: A galactic symphony 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New answer: Kris would like to ask any of the Star Wars composers to walk him through their process of creating music, from the initial ideas to the finished and recorded product. Solo season answer: Deep dive into John Williams's mindset when he wrote his love themes: "Across the Stars," "Han Solo and the Princess," and "Princess Leia's Theme." ANH season answer: A deeper dive into the Star Wars themes (motifs, etc) 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New answer: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (composed by Michael Giacchino), especially the track "World's Worst Bedtime Storyteller." Solo season answer: The Prince of Egypt score and soundtrack (by Hans Zimmer and Stephen Schwartz), How to Train Your Dragon (composed by John Powell) ANH season answer: Interstellar (composed by Hans Zimmer), Tron: Legacy (composed by Daft Punk), Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom (composed by Michael Giacchino) --------------- Guest: Kris (Star Wars Lawyer) Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsLawyer TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarslawyer YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StarWarsLawyer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/starwarslawyer/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 66-70 of The Rise of Skywalker, Kylo asks Rey to join him, General Pryde shoots Hux, and we wind up on Kef Bir. Marianne joins me today to discuss thematic reappropriation, Poe vs. Heroics themes, a demure Palpatine moment, complicated nostalgia, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 5:37 - Psalm of the Sith, a misshapen clone of the Emperor's theme. 15:00 - Poe's theme vs. Heroics theme. 17:24 - Reappropriation of the Main Theme, morphing symbolism. 22:24 - Poe vs. Heroics (continued). 28:01 - Rey's theme with an octave leap. 35:42 - Demure Palpatine theme. 46:42 - Two independently snaking musical lines, chord progression moving through circle of fifths. 56:42 - Twisted Bass Line from Attack of the Clones. 1:03:39 - "Shing" of the blade kicking off the next bit of music. 1:04:14 - Palpatine's Scheming motif from Return of the Jedi. 1:09:02 - Drawing out the connection between the blade and the Death Star wreckage, climaxing with the Imperial March. 1:14:24 - Would it make more sense for this to be the Heroics theme rather than Poe's theme? 1:21:01 - Great viola texture. 1:26:38 - Sequels are heavy on original trilogy nostalgia. Complicated feelings. 1:33:00 - Appreciation for The Phantom Menace soundtrack. 1:38:16 - TROS is Marianne's favorite sequel trilogy soundtrack. 1:47:40 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Thematic Transformation and the Limits of Leitmotivic Analysis (Frank Lehman) - https://youtu.be/4ZBCNK0PYrk?si=Sjh80kM-i7EBx0ST Why the Music in The Rise of Skywalker Felt Misleading (Sideways) - https://youtu.be/L_8-dWSLDWI?si=qNUFXOc_izzZptlY The Chord That SAVED Star Wars (Charles Cornell) - https://youtu.be/X3fvljQYhGE?si=UkBCJnVWiGMxlVzF TROS 1: Intro to the Music of The Rise of Skywalker - https://youtu.be/otAOKW5zR70?si=ltgtAWcN73MDdDt6 TROS 3: Independent Jedi Study (with Riley Silverman) - https://youtu.be/IzD34Azbrfw?si=3aMNUkjN48zF72pG Musical Themes: 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 17. Emperor 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 65) Twisted Bass Line 36) Palpatine's Scheming 10a. Imperial March (Theme) 49. Poe 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section) Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 10. "Join Me" FYC 10. "Join Me" OST 4. "The Old Death Star" FYC 11. "The Old Death Star" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Epic. Adventure. Emotion. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? The recording sessions sessions. How do the composers prepare to write? Who picks the orchestra? When do the musicians get the music? Etc. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring (Howard Shore), How to Train Your Dragon (John Powell), and anything by Hans Zimmer. --------------- Guest: Marianne TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mari_mawi ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

Are all people on the Dark side repressed theater kids? What's that weird "wee!" sound during the Kylo/Rey duel? Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? We discuss all of this and more in today's episode about minutes 61-65 of The Rise of Skywalker, featuring Darth Choco and Element7! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 5:06 - Lore drop in the Force connect scene. 13:08 - What is this mysterious "weee!" sound? 19:37 - Oddly romantic music during Rey's traumatic childhood flashback (same music we hear before Ben and Rey kiss!) 26:34 - Beef with Ben's final line in the movie. 30:22 - "Weee!" speculation, part 2. 36:08 - Oboe teasing the Imperial March? 42:34 - Resonance pockets, anechoic chambers. 47:55 - John Williams string flourishes. 52:24 - Do the strings represent Rey and brass represent Kylo in this scene? Or is it the reverse? 1:05:42 - Breaking down Hux's (hammy) "I'm the spy" scene. 1:18:28 - Brief Main Theme when Poe looks at the Falcon. 1:25:47 - Tempo and rhythm of Kylo's footsteps. 1:28:24 - Comparing the creepy strings here (when Kylo is telling Rey about her lineage) to the creepy strings in ESB when the Emperor is telling Vader about Luke's lineage. 1:33:41 - How does Kylo know about the Dyad in the Force? Wanting more from Kylo's perspective in general. 1:41:50 - A very stately Anthem of Evil moment. Dystopian Sith royalty. 1:49:42 - Final thoughts about these minutes/the film. 1:56:30 - On ranking Star Wars films. 2:04:17 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Anakin in The Rise of Skywalker (Element7 video) - https://youtu.be/0YlpJyGFVKY?si=Cx7Figl8mNzs2e81 The Center of the Universe (Tulsa, Oklahoma) - https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-center-of-the-universe-tulsa-oklahoma Super Mario Bros. 3 - Airship Theme: https://youtu.be/Uh0OKW5cwVo?si=hXO5imh8b5IkLjp9 Storytelling through Music in STAR WARS | Dyad in the Force 183: https://www.youtube.com/live/_IC6jJvSBdc?si=yITPb4h8IMo_OHCaon The Great Kamino Kaper (AOTC live reading): https://kaminokaper.com Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 42. Kylo Ren B (Hesitant) 10a. Imperial March (Theme) 17. Emperor 43a. Kylo Ren C (Menacing)/First Order Bass Line 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 9. "Hard to Get Rid Of" OST 10. "Join Me" FYC 10. "Join Me" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Darth Choco: Classical. Timeless. Storytelling. (Previously: Hope. Redemption. Spirituality.) Element7: A major lift (Previously: Beyond the horizon) 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? Darth Choco: The dance between emotion and utility when it comes to creating soundtracks. (Previously: The creation/engineering of new sounds.) Element7: Foley work--what goes into finding the right sound for something as futuristic as Star Wars. (Previously: Lightsaber sounds) 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? Darth Choco: Pirates of the Caribbean (composed by Klaus Badelt and Hans Zimmer) and 28 Days Later (composed by John Murphy). (Previously: Pirates of the Caribbean) Element7: : Good Will Hunting (composed by Danny Elfman) and The Last Samurai (composed by Hans Zimmer). (Previously: The Last Samurai) --------------- Guests: Darth Choco and Element7 Darth Choco on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@darthchoco Darth Choco on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DarthChoco Dyad in the Force podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@DyadintheForce Element7 on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@_element7_ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 56-60 of The Rise of Skywalker, our heroes rescue Chewbacca and Rey wanders into Kylo's creepily-sterile-looking private quarters. Tony Thaxton returns to the show to discuss "noticing vs. not noticing," deaths in Star Wars, the sound design of Kylo/Rey's Force chats, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 5:18 - Not noticing the music vs. being distracted by the music. 12:57 - Would you recognize Star Wars music out of context? Or would you get it mixed up with other John Williams stuff? 14:30 - How do you feel about the completely new styles of music in Star Wars shows? 19:21 - Variant on the Friendship theme. 23:11 - What is John Williams's writing process like? 26:30 - Xanthe's experience doing session work. 34:21 - Do you find yourself a little overwhelmed the first time you see a new Star Wars movie? 40:30 - Brief, jaunty action string riff. 43:26 - Deaths in Star Wars. 47:50 - E.T. moment? 52:04 - Tension theme, March of the Resistance. 57:34 - Weird Chewie vocalization. 59:19 - Kylo's pristine living quarters, Star Wars visual language (and a challenge). 1:01:43 - Imperial March with Sith Artifacts (Dagger) motif overlaid. 1:10:24 - Sound design of the Kylo/Rey Force chats. 1:13:47 - Tony's observation/perception of the droid sound effects in the sequels. 1:19:51 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Drumeo (YouTube channel): https://www.youtube.com/@DrumeoOfficial Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 109) Friendship (Variant) 60b. Sith Artifacts (Dagger) 42. Kylo Ren B (Hesitant) 52d. Tension Extended/Sequential Variant (Resistance in Trouble) 52a. Tension (Basic Motif) 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section) 10a. Imperial March (Theme) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 7. "Fleeing from Kijimi" FYC 8. "Hallway Shooting" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New: Ben Burtt rules. Previous: Excitement. Celebration. Fun. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New: "I want a real Ben Burtt documentary." How Ben Burtt came up with the various languages. Seismic charge sound design. Previous: Ben Burtt and how all those sounds were made. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New: Batman (1989) (composed by Danny Elfman) Previous: Pee-wee's Big Adventure (composed by Danny Elfman) --------------- Guest: Tony Thaxton Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tonythaxton/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/tonythaxton Motion City Soundtrack (band): https://motioncitysoundtrack.com/ Don't Stop or We'll Die (band): https://www.dontstoporwelldie.com/ Allison Rosen Is Your New Best Friend (podcast): https://www.alisonrosen.com/ariynbf/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 51-55 of The Rise of Skywalker, Babu Frik does the procedure, C-3PO performs the Sith translation, and Rey senses that Chewie is still alive. Returning guest Brandon Wainerdi (Talking Bay 94) joins me to discuss the usage of the Main Theme, Shirley Henderson's voice work on Babu Frik, MacGuffin mechanics, and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 6:07 - Significance of droids dying. 11:04 - Steven Spielberg's concern over Babu Frik. 14:25 - How do you feel about this use of the Main Theme? 21:45 - Octatonic moment. 22:55 - Babu Frik's puppet work, voice work. 27:06 - Mystery music a la Attack of the Clones. 32:37 - J.J. Abrams as D-O; are you distracted by celebrity voice cameos? 36:37 - "I think Star Wars, as a property, excels when..." 42:28 - Sly use of the Emperor's theme mixed with Imperial March; Is John Williams an omniscient narrator? 47:59 - Figuring out the mechanism of the MacGuffin. 51:03 - Brandon's weird way of consuming Star Wars. 59:47 - Shirley Henderson recorded Babu's "droid is ready" line in multiple languages. 1:07:51 - Levity in Star Wars, high expections. 1:12:24 - Rhythmically/metrically interesting action transition. 1:18:52 - Keri Russell as Zorii Bliss. 1:22:58 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Palpatine=Sidious Force dot net discussion: https://boards.theforce.net/threads/palpatine-sidious-its-so-obvious.245896/ Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 1a. Main Theme (A Section) 59) Mystery (Form 2) 17. Emperor 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) Where are we in the soundtrack?: OST 8. "Fleeing from Kijimi" FYC 7. "Fleeing from Kijimi" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New: Williams. Göransson. Giacchino. Previous: Ben. John. James. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New: John Williams's relationship with Star Wars (both the media itself and the people who make it). Previous: More behind the scenes stuff about the music and sound design in the Disney-era. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New: Lord of the Rings (composed by Howard Shore) and Rings of Power (composed by Bear McCreary) and the animated RotK Previous: Halloween (composed by John Carpenter) --------------- Guest: Brandon Wainerdi Talking Bay 94 (one-on-one interviews with the cast and crew of Star Wars) - https://www.talkingbay94.com/ Brandon's StarWars.com contributor page: https://www.starwars.com/news/contributor/bwainerdi Greg Grunberg: Playing Snap Wexley and Watching Star Wars for the First Time with Best Friend, JJ Abrams (Talking Bay 94) - https://www.talkingbay94.com/2020/07/17/greg-grunberg-star-wars-interview-podcast/ James Clyne: Designing Lando's Millennium Falcon, Kylo's TIE Silencer, and the Look of the Sequel Trilogy (Talking Bay 94) - https://www.talkingbay94.com/2021/05/26/james-clyne-designing-landos-millenium-falcon-kylos-tie-silencer-and-the-look-of-the-sequel-trilogy/ Jedi at 40 | Ben Burtt and Randy Thom on Crafting Ewokese, Jabba's Voice, and the Rancor's Roar - https://www.starwars.com/news/jedi-at-40-ben-burtt-randy-thom   ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

John Williams has a cameo in this set of minutes! Also in minutes 46-50 of The Rise of Skywalker, the gang lands on Kijimi, we meet Zorii Bliss and Babu Frik, and we learn more about the droid hacking thing that'll get C-3PO to translate the Sith inscription. Camila Quiñones returns to the show to talk about the sound-forward worldbuilding of Kijimi, musicality in Star Wars dialogue, anchoring and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 9:06 - Friendship theme into Rey's theme. Compassion and selflessness. 16:56 - Lack of music and emphasis on sound does a lot of world-building for Kijimi. Sanitizing effect of music. 22:40 - Music wants to be anchored to what (and who) is important in the story. 27:26 - Fast banter, musicality in the dialogue. 33:50 - Different dialects and speaking trends/styles in different decades of Star Wars. Polystylism. 42:41 - Thoughts on Poe as a character. Musical punctuation. 50:20 - Heroines of Star Wars (Rey, Padme, Leia) and their relationship to hope/idealism. 56:03 - Diegetic music in Oma Tres's bar. Cantina music in Star Wars. 1:02:26 - John Williams's cameo, behind-the-scenes, set decoration. 1:09:12 - C-3PO drives Camila nuts every single movie. 1:19:30 - Camila's final thoughts on TROS. 1:23:52 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: John Williams Cameo - Behind the Scenes - The Rise of Skywalker: https://youtu.be/vGc47-ncN70?si=YMsD6z0i09R0y3GU Alfred Schnittke's Concerto Grosso No. 1 (example of polystylism) - https://youtu.be/4RrLWema4tU?si=zbtTtQDUhVEhfgI- Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 57. Friendship 45a. Rey A (Theme A-Phrase) 52a. Tension (Basic Motif) 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) Diegetic Music: Kijimi Bar ("Oma's Place") Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 6. "To Kijimi" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New: Resilience. Youth. Legacy. Previous: Tragedy. Adventure. Wisdom. Majesty. Hope. Tragedy. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New: How do composers choose the instruments they use for their scores? Previous: How do the sound design and score elements come together? The difference between sound editing and sound mixing. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New: Pride and Prejudice (composed by Dario Marianelli) Previous: Succession (composed by Nicholas Britell) The Batman (composed by Michael Giacchino) --------------- Guest: Camila Quiñones Beings of the Galaxy podcast: https://beingsofthegalaxypod.buzzsprout.com/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin

In minutes 41-45 of The Rise of Skywalker, Rey shoots lightning from her fingers and destroys the First Order transport that she believes Chewie is on. Dominic Sewell returns to the show to discuss symmetry in the Friendship theme, the shroud over John Williams's writing process, mus-emes (musical memes), and more! Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 8:47 - Listening to the beginning of these minutes. 9:41 - Big B buildup reminds Dom of a part from Wozzeck (Alban Berg). 22:02 - Assigning meaning to pitches depending on the context. 27:53 - Music climbing by semitonal increments. Failed climb in the brass. 31:53 - Do you think this score has more in common with Revenge of the Sith and/or Return of the Jedi than any other particular film? 39:22 - John Williams thinking visually (speculation). 45:15 - The shroud over John Williams's process. Broad strokes and modalities. German/Austro-Hungarian versus Russian/French sound worlds. 52:00 - Williams will go down as one of the greatest orchestrators. 59:37 - Octatonic goodness. 1:05:15 - Descant. 1:09:08 - The recording of this film is incredible (close, clear, dry, not swathed in reverb) 1:12:34 - Symmetry in the Friendship Theme. 1:22:14 - Threepio. 1:26:12 - Interesting voicing (clarinet is buried in the brass texture). 1:33:35 - Juxtaposition of two completely different themes. Intrusive thoughts. 1:38:53 - Kamino Kaper tangent. 1:44:43 - Does John Williams explicitly engage with duality in his theme-writing? 1:49:12 - Zimmerfication of Williams? 1:55:39 - Our favorite Rise of Skywalker musical themes. 1:58:50 - A very bold statement about minor 7ths. 2:04:32 - Stuttering, half-step-heavy villain themes. 2:09:41 - Speculating on Williams's revision process. Mythology of Williams. 2:19:35 - SWMM Questionnaire 2:29:47 - Shoutout to Michael Abels (Acolyte good). Things to Check Out: On the Track: A Guide to Contemporary Film Scoring (book by Fred Karlin and Rayburn Wright) - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/2097046.On_the_Track Wozzeck, Act III Scene 2 (Alban Berg) - https://youtu.be/702knK1mop0?si=gYcasnwRVZnQV5F5 WOZZECK - The Operatic Equivalent of GUINNESS (David Bruce Composer) https://youtu.be/e8V-x9CSPlA?si=cwcViqXYVzkx7iFJ John Williams on the SmartLess podcast: https://youtu.be/xi-axVKJ3Tc John Williams discussing Alex North, part 1: https://youtu.be/iKq1c-wpVe4?si=R7wcddyIXMcCmvnD John Williams discussing Alex North, part 2: https://youtu.be/rYSmemYleEE?si=vx3qdV6BIuTipBGQ Chrysanthe's review of the Century of Film Music concert (curated by John Williams): https://www.sfcv.org/articles/review/la-phil-classic-film-music-leads-john-williams Shawn Murphy recorded and mixed the scores for The Rise of Skywalker and Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny. "Dance of the Montagues and Capulets" (from Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet) - https://youtu.be/8VY-A7GVLyQ?si=KGxAlZrc97xph2XO Die Walküre: Magic Fire Music (Wagner) - https://youtu.be/bG6p8bLdaQU?si=TztdijWshAO4vdQb Anakin’s Theme and the Musical Aftermath of The Phantom Menace (article by Frank Lehman): https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2024/07/30/anakins-theme-essay/ Main Title from King's Row (Erich Wolfgang Korngold) - https://youtu.be/tysCiL1-24w?si=_dc2_oIANP9ZMim2 Harold in Italy (symphony with viola obbligato by Hector Berlioz) - https://youtu.be/Q4NC4E5RXik?si=E3DajNGVjgKgKIuK Thematic Transformation and the Limits of Leitmotivic Analysis (Frank Lehman talk) - https://youtu.be/4ZBCNK0PYrk?si=UFbRSzm_-KYONTzj Dominic's analysis of "The Lighting of the Beacons" from The Return of the King - https://youtu.be/tVW249k5uuQ?si=8lc2W3azRxGuCppL Near Miss (film that Dominic scored) - https://www.imdb.com/title/tt29193907/ Scoring the Screen: The Secret Language of Film Music (book by Andy Hill) - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31386128-scoring-the-screen La Belle Noiseuse by Dominic Sewell; performed by harpist Amy Turk - https://youtu.be/nEqgmi4RJ4s?si=6o3OJHCdUHaWIkNC "The Brahms" chord (coined by Dominic): C-Ab-C spanning one octave Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 41a. Kylo Ren A (Aggressive) 42. Kylo Ren B (Hesitant) 57. Friendship 109) Friendship (Variant) 61b. Knights of Ren (Slow Form) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 5. "A Prisoner" FYC 6. "To Kijimi" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? New: Symphonic. Complex. Multilayered. Previous: Transporting. Transforming. Transcendental. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? New: How the orchestrators of Star Wars voice John Williams's woodwind and brass parts. Previous: Dom would like to talk to John Williams about what his teachers taught him. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? New: Lord of the Rings (again) - Howard Shore Rings of Power - Bear McCreary Oppenheimer - Ludwig Göransson Previous: Lord of the Rings - Howard Shore Doctor Who (TV series) - Murray Gold The Orville (TV series) - Bruce Broughton (main theme), Joel McNeely, Andrew Cottee, John Debney, and Kevin Kaska Death of Stalin - Christopher Willis --------------- Guest: Dominic Sewell ESB 6: Battle of Hoth Set Theory (Minutes 26-30 with Dominic Sewell) - https://youtu.be/oOvHkaciOVk Website: https://dominicsewell.co.uk YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DominicSewellMusic Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/DominicSewellMusic Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dominicsewell/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the SWMM Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? 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In minutes 36-40 of The Rise of Skywalker, Rey heals the vexis, the Knights of Ren arrive on Pasaana, Rey confronts Kylo Ren in the desert, and Chewie is captured. Today, Patrick Cotnoir (The George Lucas Talk Show, The Naboo Movie, The Great Kamino Kaper) joins me to discuss over-the-top evil music, the sound design of Kylo/Rey's desert showdown, and an ominous M7 interval. Clarification: The "Speeder Chase" track that we talk about toward the end of this episode pertains to a scene from earlier in the movie (check out previous episode, TROS 6: Speeder Chase Shenanigans with Conor Power, for more detail about that).  Timestamps: 0:00 - Hello there! 3:08 - Rey heals the serpent, Force theme, cool sound design. 5:06 - Favorite Star Wars noises. 13:11 - Sound conveying scale. 16:15 - Over-the-top evil music for the Knights of Ren (funny). 21:29 - Patrick's Boolio story. 24:13 - Ominous descending major 7th interval. (Everything is not okay!) (Foreshadowing?) 31:30 - March of the Resistance in Ochi's ship. Insistent repeated figure (Viennese trichord). 38:42 - Patrick swears he hears Darth Vader breathing here. 41:33 - Crafting the sound world for the Kylo/Rey confrontation in the desert. 45:49 - Psalm of the Sith (Anthem of Evil) 51:33 - Kylo's TIE whisper getting closer. How are the strings making that noise? 54:26 - Sound design for the part where Rey flips and slices Kylo's wing in slo-mo. 55:55 - Music for the speeder chase (in minutes 26-30) was cut. 59:49 - The musicality of Kylo's ship spinning out of control. 1:02:57 - Return of the ominous M7 interval from before. Chewie is captured. 1:05:34 - Playing a bit of the "Speeder Chase" track that didn't make it in the film. To clarify, this track was supposed to be in an earlier part of the film ("they fly now?")--not these minutes. 1:11:51 - SWMM Questionnaire Things to Check Out: Complete Catalogue of the Musical Themes of Star Wars (by Frank Lehman): https://franklehman.com/starwars/ Musical Themes: 3. Force 61b. Knights of Ren (Slow Form) 52a. Tension (Basic Motif) 47a. March of the Resistance (A Section) 59a. Psalm of the Sith (A Section) Where are we in the soundtrack?: FYC 4. "In the Desert" --------------- STAR WARS MUSIC MINUTE QUESTIONNAIRE: 1. In exactly 3 words, what does Star Wars sound like? Loud, proud, in-charge. 2. What's something related to Star Wars music or sound that you want to learn more about? What sounds were combined in order to make various noises in Star Wars. 3. What's a score or soundtrack you're fond of besides anything Star Wars? 10 Cloverfield Lane (composed by Bear McCreary) --------------- Guest: Patrick Cotnoir The George Lucas Talk Show: https://www.youtube.com/@TheGeorgeLucasTalkShow I'm 'George Lucas': A Connor Ratliff Story (documentary) - https://imgeorgelucas.com/ THE NABOO MOVIE: A 25th Anniversary All Star Live Reading of Star Wars Ep 1: The Phantom Menace - https://naboomovie.com THE GREAT KAMINO KAPER: A Live Reading of Attack of the Clones - https://kaminokaper.com Website: https://www.patrickcotnoir.com/ Twitter: https://x.com/patrickcotnoir Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cotnoir/ ------------------ ⭐️ Join the Discord server by becoming a patron at any level! https://patreon.com/chrysanthetan Leave a voice message, and I might play it on the show...   https://starwarsmusicminute.com/comlink Where else to find SWMM: Twitter: https://twitter.com/StarWarsMusMin Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/652WVfMTLwJpVZ82i8uhFA Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/star-wars-music-minute/id1552988763 YouTube: https://youtube.com/starwarsmusicminute TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@starwarsmusicminute? Instagram: https://instagram.com/starwarsmusicminute Email: podcast@starwarsmusicminute.com Buy Me A Coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/starwarsmusmin