Stephan Livera Podcast

Steve Lee and Matt Corallo of Spiral rejoin me on the show to talk about a range of topics. Firstly we discuss the Great Consensus Clean Up which relates to fixing some long standing bugs in Bitcoin. Secondly we talk about MEV and why it’s the wrong term, instead we should be talking about MEVil and the implications for Bitcoin miner centralisation. Finally we address the rumours of Lightning Network being dead or not useful.  Links:  X: @moneyball X: @TheBlueMatt  BlueMatt's Blog: Stop Calling It MEV BIP Proposal: The Great Consensus Cleanup Delving post on Great Consensus Clean up Revival Steve’s X thread on GCC: https://twitter.com/moneyball/status/1760839436617875485 Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack

Andrew Henderson rejoins me to discuss his story renouncing US citizenship, and whether the price was worth it. We discuss whether you should “stay and fight” as well as considerations relevant for Bitcoiners on pursuing their options in other countries. We also discuss Nomad Capitalist Live 2024, coming in KL Malaysia. Listen in to learn and stay up to date on global tax, investing and lifestyle strategies.  Links:  X: @nomadcapitalist Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com/live Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack

Kevin Loaec of wizardsardine joins me to talk about bitcoin security and vaults. We get into a discussion about:  Vaults and what’s possible today  Timelocking and using them as part of self custody Inheritance scenarios Business use cases Covenant soft forks Links: X: @KLoaec X: @Wizardsardine X: @revaultdev Site: Wizardsardine   Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters: 00:00 - Intro 02:07 - Revault 08:07 - Liana 14:48 - Overview of Liana and Supported Hardware Wallets 25:17 - Managing Time Locks in Liana: Rotating Coins and Duration 29:47 - Coinkite.com 30:47 - Swan.com 32:09 - Mempool.space 33:10 - Self-Custody with Liana 37:26 - Understanding Revault and Liana 44:56 - Exploring Decaying and Expanding Multi-Signature 49:15 - RBF and CPFP in Liana Transactions 56:07 - Transaction Size in Liana 01:00:42 - The Debate on Covenants 01:05:37 - Enhancing Organization Security with Cosigners 01:09:30 - The Future of Self-Custody

Have you wondered about the role design and UX plays in Bitcoin apps? Christoph and Mogashni join me from the Bitcoin Design Community to share insights on: What most people are getting wrong about design How you can leverage design principles in your bitcoin product Bitcoin specific design challenges Types of user Tools available by the Bitcoin Design community Links: Site: Bitcoin.design Site: bitcoindesignfoundation.org X: @MogashniNaidoo X: @GBKS  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 03:31 - The Importance of Design in Bitcoin Applications 10:10 - The Bitcoin Design Community 12:34 - Common Mistakes in Bitcoin App Design 20:10 - Mempool.space 20:56 - Coinkite.com 25:14 - Embracing Creativity and Unique Design in Bitcoin 29:28 - Introduction to User Experience Design in Bitcoin 33:34 - Working with Bitcoin Apps and Projects 38:56 - Swan.com 39:14 - Simplifying the User Experience in Bitcoin 43:26 - Designing for Complexity in Bitcoin 45:09 - Navigating Competing Standards in Bitcoin Design 46:29 - The Value of UX Research in Bitcoin 49:48 - Practical Advice for Builders and Developers in Bitcoin Design 54:57 - Find Out More 56:40 - Closing Thoughts

Peter St Onge rejoins me on the show to share some insight into how bad the US government fiscal situation is getting. We talk: How much debt there is and what’s next here The impact on the people Japanese interest rates rising Japanese economic impacts AI and where the jobs will come from Bitcoin outlook Links: X: @profstonge Site: Profstonge.com  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack

Thomas Fahrer, co-founder of Apollo joins me to talk about the Bitcoin ETFs. We talk:  Analysing the Bitcoin ETFs What further institutional adoption looks like How much capital could flow into Bitcoin The Bitcoin FOMO scenario Disagreements on the power law model MSTR and Bitcoin Links: X: @thomas_fahrer  Site: Heyapollo.com  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 03:02 - The Significance of Bitcoin ETFs 13:33 - Rebalancing and Volatility 21:19 - Grayscale's Declining Bitcoin Holdings 25:41 - Swan.com 27:00 - Mempool.space 27:45 - Coinkite.com 33:35 - Possible Motivations for Grayscale's Actions 34:03 - Successful ETF Launch and Consistent Demand 37:23 - Bitcoin Price Rise and Demand - Supply Dynamics 39:44 - Volatility and Orderly Transition 41:07 - Bitcoin's Historical Price Patterns 44:05 - Flaws in Power Law Model 45:05 - Bitcoin's Potential to Replace Traditional Assets 46:41 - Flaws in Power Law Model and Fiat Currencies 50:11 - Importance of Fundamental Analysis 51:38 - Bitcoin's Bullish Case and Fundamental Properties 58:51 - Closing Thoughts

My friend Vijay Boyapati (Author of the Bullish Case for Bitcoin, and part of the Swan team) rejoins me on the show to talk about HODLing, share his analysis on things, and offer some tips on how to HODL. We talk: What phase of the cycle we’re in HODLer psychology Does Bitcoin get captured?  Is Bitcoin for Everyone? Self custody tech GBTC and Bankruptcies Common traps and how to avoid them Links: X: @real_vijay Genesis thread https://twitter.com/real_vijay/status/1744454450138526162  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Overview 03:01 - The Excitement of Bull Markets 05:54 - The Slow Build-Up and Parabolic Moves 08:46 - Hodling Through Adversity 13:07 - The Nature of Bitcoin Cycles 16:02 - The Reachability of Bitcoin Participants 19:45 - Coinkite.com 21:00 - NomadCapitalist.com 22:08 - The Challenges of Self-Custody 30:00 - The Feasibility of Self-Custody for All 34:14 - Bitcoin as a Superior Monetary Base 35:10 - Concerns about Concentration Risk 38:07 - Mempool.space 39:16 - Swan.com 40:12 - Government Influence on Bitcoin ETFs 43:32 - Multipolar World and Bitcoin Adoption 44:01 - US Favorability towards Bitcoin 46:51 - Genesis Bankruptcy and Grayscale's Future 50:11 - Common Traps in a Bull Cycle 59:54 - Dealing with Corrections in a Bull Cycle

Mi Primer Bitcoin (My First Bitcoin) has grown since I last spoke with them on the show. John from the team rejoins me to talk about how things have developed. The team has now taught over 25,000 students in El Salvador and they are now expanding internationally.  Links: X: @jdennehy_writes Site: Miprimerbitcoin.io SLP381 John Dennehy & Gloriana Solano – Bitcoin Diploma in El Salvador Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 01:16 - Bitcoin Diploma and Infrastructure 03:37 - International Expansion and Node Network Governance 05:27 - Course Format and Duration 08:16 - Teaching Bitcoin in Public Schools 09:14 - Collaboration with Ministry of Education 12:37 - Different Approaches to Teaching Bitcoin 15:27 - Continued Education and Advanced Courses 17:55 - Coinkite.com 19:06 - Swan.com 20:18 - Mempool.space 21:13 - Bitcoin Education for Different Age Groups 23:48 - Format and Agenda of Bitcoin Education Conferences 26:15 - Collaboration with Governments and Universities 29:37 - Localization and Modification of Curriculum 32:31 - Focus on International Expansion 34:26 - Challenges of Education for the Masses 36:48 - Adapting Curriculum to Rising Fees 39:17 - Empowerment and Independence in Bitcoin Education 40:40 - Call for Support and Contributions

How do we interact with Bitcoin in a multi layer world? What cost savings and trade offs are necessary here? What even counts as a layer? Kilian from boltz.exchange joins me to talk about swapping across Bitcoin on-chain, Lightning and Liquid. We discuss: How swapping works What makes it atomic and non-custodial What counts as layer 2 Fee savings and trade offs Links: X: @kilrau Site: boltz.exchange X: @boltzhq Taproot feature blog post: Introducing Taproot Swaps: Putting the "Fun" Back into Refunds!  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters/Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 03:07 - Boltz.exchange: Moving Between Bitcoin Layers 05:35 - Use Cases for Lightning Service Providers 09:45 - Enhancing Wallet Functionality 13:20 - Non-Custodial Atomic Swaps 21:43 - Coinkite.com 23:07 - NomadCapitalist.com 24:25 - Fees and Fee Savings 29:35 - Trust Model of Liquid 32:40 - Regulatory Risks for Liquid 37:10 - Transaction Limits on Liquid 38:58 - Mempool.space 39:59 - Swan.com 41:02 - Scalability of Liquid 44:15 - Integration of Liquid with Other Services and Wallets 51:22 - Pragmatism in Bitcoin Adoption 55:45 - Operating in a High-Fee Environment 57:45 - Closing Thoughts

Patrick van der Meijde, founder of BitKassa and co founder Arnhem Bitcoin City joins me to talk about his experience with co-founding one of the earliest Bitcoin ‘circular economy’ communities in 2014.  How he got started Taking payments pre-lightning Are there enough people spending? Resurgence in circular economies Adopting Bitcoin Arnhem City Links:  X: @PatrickvdMeijde Site: adoptingbitcoinarnhem.com Site: arnhembitcoinstad.nl  Cofounder @BitKassaNL Cofounder Arnhem Bitcoin City @Bitcoinstad Youtube: 10 years of merchants accepting bitcoin in Arnhem   Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera Links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Chapters/Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 01:55 - Bitcoin Narratives in 2014 04:45 - Transaction Fees and Challenges 08:46 - Arnhem Bitcoin City and its Evolution 09:55 - Context of Arnhem City in the Netherlands 11:45 - Capital Gains Tax in the Netherlands 12:33 - Impact of AML Regulations 14:13 - Merchants Keeping Bitcoin 15:00 - Swan.com 16:14 - Mempool.space 17:11 - Coinkite.com 18:40 - Merchant Churn and Turnover 23:35 - Importance of Local Community 28:55 - Adopting Bitcoin Conference in Arnhem 31:32 - Transition to Lightning Network 35:45 - Success Rates of Lightning Network Payments 36:30 - Improvement of Lightning Network 37:53 - Conclusion and Event Details

While in Madeira for Bitcoin Atlantis, I did some interviews on a range of topics with Lyn Alden, James Lavish, Tomer Strolight, Francis Pouliot, Steven Roose and Peter Todd. We discussed: is Macro mid curve?  USG debt Using analogies to teach bitcoin librerelay MEV concerns Self custodial and scaling Links: Lyn Alden X: @LynAldenContact Site: lynalden.com  James Lavish X: @jameslavish Site: jameslavish.substack.com  Site: bitcoinopportunity.fund  Tomer Strolight X: @TomerStrolight Bitcoin is Generational Wealth - A Short Film by Matt Hornick and Tomer Strolight Swan Signal Bitcoin Blog Francis Pouliot X: @francispouliot_ Site: BullBitcoin.com Steven Roose X: @stevenroose3 GitHub: github.com/stevenroose  Peter Todd X: @peterktodd  Site: Petertodd.org Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack

What applications exist for Bitcoin self custodial finance? Philipp Hoenisch, founder of 10101 (pronounced ten-ten-one) joins me on the show to talk about bitcoin trading without counterparty risk. We discuss: DLC overview and basics DLC channels and lightning 10101 walkthrough “Funding rate” Synthetic stablecoins For individuals or business? Risks and things can break down Prior Episodes: SLP349 Chris Stewart Bitcoin DLCs & Stablechannels SLP219 Nadav Kohen – What You Should Know About Bitcoin DLCs SLP519 Self Custodial Bitcoin Finance with Matthew Black of Atomic Finance Links: X: @bonomat X: @get10101  Site: 10101.finance Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 05:58 - The Concept of Discrete Log Contracts (DLCs) 10:28 - Non-Custodial Trading and DLC Channels 12:46 - Using the 10101 App 21:32 - Expiry and Funding Rates 26:01 - NomadCapitalist.com 27:47 - Coinkite.com 28:57 - Market Makers and Trade Sizing 32:05 - Limits and Future Plans 35:55 - Security and Hardware Wallets 37:41 - Non-Degen Uses for 10101 38:50 - Comparison of Stable Coin Concepts 41:58 - High Interest Rates and Risks 48:33 - Swan.com 49:42 - Mempool.space 50:44 - Comparison of Stable Value Options 56:49 - Technical Complexity and Education 58:43 - Future of the 10101 App 01:00:45 - Reasons for Lack of Non-Custodial Finance Adoption 01:03:56 - Closing Thoughts

Eric Yakes, author of The 7th Property, joins me to talk about the future of Bitcoin Banking, LN and ecash. We discuss: Chaumian mints and ecash Interaction with LN Credit markets in the future How does the system remain Full Reserve?  Regulatory roadblocks Will there be a role for passive index funds?  Links: X: @ericyakes  axiombtc.capital/bank  Site: Yakes.io Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps: 00:00 - Introduction 08:23 - Bitcoin Banking 13:57 - Chaumian Mints 19:10 - How Do Chaumian Mints Work 24:04 - Use Cases for FediMints and CashewMints 31:09 - Coinkite.com 32:24 - Mempool.space 33:13 - Swan.com 35:08 - Bitcoin's Evolution and Adoption 38:20 - Regulatory Roadblocks for Commercial Mints 40:31 - Mitigating Risk of Token Debasement 46:59 - Fractional Reserve Banking and Trust 56:45 - Passive Index Funds and Stock Indexes 01:01:56 - Accounting Valuation and Global Wealth 01:06:02 - Closing Thoughts on Banks Without Bankers

Brian Morgenstern, Head of Public Policy of Riot Platforms joins me to talk about the latest attack on Bitcoin miners:  Is Bitcoin mining a partisan issue?  The EIA “Survey” Falsehoods on grid stability and emissions False Emergency What to do about it Links: X: @MorgensternNJ  Thread https://twitter.com/MorgensternNJ/status/1754634147232977246 X: @TXblockchain_  Sen. Lummis declares the survey to be ‘absurd’ Joint statement by the Chamber of Digital Commerce & Texas Blockchain Council opposing the survey: Industry Statement on EIA’s Emergency Survey  - Chamber of Digital Commerce (digitalchamber.org) Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 02:26 - Is Bitcoin Support Partisan? 06:35 - The EIA Request for Information on Bitcoin Mining 13:18 - Motivations and Political Divide 18:42 - "Emergency" Collection of Data 20:14 - Swan.com 21:26 - Mempool.space 22:35 - Coinkite.com 23:52 - Competitive Information and Disclosure 31:50 - Potential Misinterpretation and Attacks 39:04 - Pushing Back and Taking Action 41:24 - The Importance of Speaking Up 42:16 - Closing Thoughts

Ben Carman of Mutiny Wallet rejoins me on the show to talk about what’s coming next for Bitcoin. We talk about scaling Bitcoin and contrast the different mindsets, discuss different soft fork proposals and directions Bitcoin could go. We also talk about what impact covenants will have and the latest with Mutiny Wallet.  Bitcoin’s biggest challenges Taxonomy of Bitcoin development culture Soft forks and covenants What ‘counts’ as a Bitcoin L2?  What are the big benefits of covenants?  Mutiny Wallet - a new Hybrid era? Will people get priced out?  Fedimint support Synthetic USD or swaps?  Inscriptions and Spam Links: Site: mutinywallet.com X: @benthecarman  nostr: npub1u8lnhlw5usp3t9vmpz60ejpyt649z33hu82wc2hpv6m5xdqmuxhs46turz  Inscriptions post: https://habla.news/a/naddr1qqxnzdesxgerxdp58yenyvejqgswrlemlh2wgqc4jkds3d8ueqj9a2j3gcm7r48v9tskdd6rxsd7rtcrqsqqqa28wdzn0j  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:18 - Bitcoin's Challenges: Scaling and Social Consensus 08:50 - Different Perspectives on Bitcoin's Future 16:10 - The Importance of Unilateral Exit and Self-Custody 21:16 - The Potential of Covenants for Scaling Bitcoin 25:23 - Mempool.space 26:17 - Coinkite.com 27:37 - Bitcoin Ark - A Payment Pool 31:11 - Introduction to Mutiny Wallet 34:36 - Addressing Security Concerns 37:06 - Simplifying Onboarding and Social Features in Mutiny Wallet 41:50 - The Challenge of Scalability and Affordability 43:50 - Building a Hybrid Wallet with Fediment Support 45:50 - NomadCapitalist.com 47:50 - Swan.com 49:07 - Guardians and Discoverability in Mutiny Wallet 50:50 - Multiple Federation Support in Mutiny Wallet 55:25 - Stable Channels and Synthetic USD in Mutiny Wallet 01:00:20 - The Role of ETFs and Number Go Up in Bitcoin Adoption 01:04:40 - The Debate on Inscriptions and Shitcoins in Bitcoin 01:08:01 - Closing Thoughts

Do the lies about Bitcoin frustrate you? Join us in this episode as we discuss the ways to dispel and debunk some of the most egregious false climate narratives on Bitcoin with Daniel Batten, Managing Partner at CH4 Capital. We discuss: The biggest bitcoin climate myths Dishonest portrayal in the media “Per transaction” fake methodology Where Cambridge CCAF is wrong Bitcoin’s PoW and ‘ideological intransigence’ ESMA submission How Bitcoiners can help Links: X: @DSBatten Articles: https://batcoinz.com/submission-to-esma-on-bitcoin-mining/ https://batcoinz.com/a-tale-of-two-articles/ Prior episodes referred to SLP487 Bitcoin Mining Energy Debate – Digiconomist and Ben Gagnon   SLP542 Defending Bitcoin PoW in the EU with Lyudmyla Kozlovska and Bota Jardemalie Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:51 - Daniel's Journey with Bitcoin 09:13 - Biggest Bitcoin Climate Myths 18:34 - Coinkite.com 19:37 - Mempool.space 20:34 - How Media Perceptions about Bitcoin Changed Over Time 36:20 - Cambridge Bitcoin Estimate 44:45 - Swan.com 45:54 - Acknowledging Other Paths To Sustainability 57:10 - Submission to ESMA and Correcting False Narratives 01:09:21 - Bitcoin's Environmental Benefits 01:12:40 - Closing Thoughts

We talk about monetary maximalism, and whether everything is good for bitcoin with Christian Keroles of HRF. We discuss: Monetary maximalism: descriptive or prescriptive Bitcoin Spam  Antifragility What bitcoiners are getting wrong on personal finance How 2023 played out with “ordinals” Not being used to winning Links: X: @ck_SNARKs Site: HRF.org Site: https://cbdctracker.hrf.org/home Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamp/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:22 - Defining Monetary Maximalism 03:10 - Monetary Maximalism as an Observation 05:00 - Descriptive vs Prescriptive Monetary Maximalism 09:50 - The Debate on Ordinals and Spam 21:05 - The Nuisance Level of Spam 22:48 - What Are Most Bitcoiners Getting Wrong On Personal Finance 29:49 - The Emergence of Ordinals and Inscriptions 32:27 - Coinkite.com 33:28 - Swan.com 34:31 - Mempool.space 35:54 - The Umbrella Term of Ordinals 41:16 - The Fallout and Consequences of Bitcoin Developments 48:53 - The Strengthening of Bitcoin through Challenges 53:20 - The Debate on Filtering in Bitcoin 58:32 - The Emergence of Runes Protocol 01:02:13 - Bitcoin's Winning Streak 01:04:35 - Confusion and False Narratives 01:07:37 - The Base of Bitcoin: 21 Million Coins and HODL 01:08:37 - Closing Thoughts and Bitcoin Adoption

We’re trying something a little different this episode! While at Bitcoin Oasis 2024 in Dubai I captured some short interviews with some speakers at the conference. We covered a wide range of topics ranging from Bitcoin Spam, to nation state adoption and honestly grappling with bitcoin user adoption trade offs. The speakers interviewed are: Alejandro De La Torre of Demand Mining Luke Dashjr of Ocean Mining Prince Philip of Serbia, from JAN3 Pete Rizzo of Bitcoin Magazine Giacomo Zucco of Plan B Network Links: Alejandro De La Torre X: @bitentrepreneur   Luke Dashjr X: @LukeDashjr  and https://ocean.xyz/ Prince Philip of Serbia X: @PrincFilip1 and https://jan3.com/ Pete Rizzo X: @pete_rizzo_ and Bitcoinmagazine.com Giacomo Zucco X: @giacomozucco and https://planb.network/ Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space https://nomadcapitalist.com Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction 01:44 - Alejandro De La Torre Interview 08:26 - Luke Dashjr Interview 21:10 - Swan.com 22:46 - Mempool.space 23:47 - Prince Philip of Serbia Interview 37:08 - Pete Rizzo Interview 54:29 - Coinkite.com 55:46 - NomadCapitalist.com 57:20 - Giacomo Zucco Interview 01:13:26 - Closing Thoughts

Mike Peterson from Bitcoin Beach El Zonte, El Salvador rejoins me on the show to give listeners some updates from El Salvador. Having a reduced crime rate and improved investment and tourism into the country has driven big changes! We talk: How things look a few years on from the Bitcoin Law Life on the ground in El Salvador How easy it is to move El Salvador $1M Citizenship Program Dealing with on chain fees Custodial vs Self Custodial and pragmatism ‘Circular Economies’ and insights from his networking around the world Links: X: @Bitcoinbeach YT: @LiveFromBitcoinBeach  Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack Timestamps/Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction and Background 01:20 - Two and a Half Years After Bitcoin Adoption in El Salvador 05:21 - Financial Innovation in El Salvador 09:36 - Bottom-Up vs Top-Down Adoption of Bitcoin 11:00 - Ease of Setting Up in El Salvador 21:05 - Coinkite.com 22:13 - Mempool.space 22:56 - Swan.com 24:15 - Living on Bitcoin in El Salvador 31:48 - Bitcoin Meetups and Events in El Salvador 35:51 - Circular Economies and Bitcoin Adoption 40:55 - Insights from Other Circular Economies 50:05 - Custodial vs. Non-Custodial 54:21 - The Bitcoin Beach Podcast 56:16 - Closing thoughts

Get an overview of lightning wallets in this episode with Anita Posch. Anita walks through what she found in testing self custodial lightning wallets under conditions of poor internet connectivity. We also talk about themes that came up at the recent Adopting Bitcoin Cape Town South Africa.  On the ground insights Results of the self custodial wallet test Which LN apps came out best?  The situation with fees Where the test might not be suitable How things may change with a Liquid or Fedimint approach Links: X: @AnitaPosch Site: bffbtc.org Bitcoin for Fairness - Anita Posch  (L)earn Bitcoin Sponsors: Swan.com (code LIVERA) CoinKite.com (code LIVERA) Mempool.space Stephan Livera links: Follow me on X: @stephanlivera Subscribe to the podcast Subscribe to Substack