Super Data Science: ML & AI Podcast with Jon Krohn

Creative human-AI partnerships and AI-generated music: WaveAI CEO and co-founder Maya Ackerman speaks with Jon Krohn about learning to see – and accept – AI’s potential as a creative partner in a human-centric, AI-forward future. Listen to the episode to hear Maya Ackerman discuss reframing hallucination as a creative force, her work at WaveAI, and how to push the boundaries of creativity using generative AI. This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠Dell⁠⁠, by ⁠⁠Intel⁠⁠, by Gurobi⁠⁠⁠ and by Airia. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/943⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (05:20) Maya’s challenge to anthropocentrism (19:26) How to compose music with AI (28:13) How to invest in creative empowerment (32:18) How to produce genuinely creative artworks through AI (44:58) The future of GenAI

What’s on the horizon for AI? Jon Krohn wades through opinions from more than experts, curated by the Longitudinal Expert AI Panel (LEAP), about what we can expect from the industry. From estimates on AI-assisted workers through energy consumption to AI performance in highly skilled domains, find out just how much LEAP thinkers believe AI is permeating our daily work and life in this Five-Minute Friday.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/942⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Vijoy Pandey imagines a bold new society in which agents and humans make scientific discoveries and complete physical tasks together, and he tells Jon Krohn about his work at AGNTCY, Cisco’s open-source platform for the Internet of Agents. Listen to the episode to hear Vijoy Pandey talk about how a future society in which multi-agents and humans interact may be a real possibility, what TCP/IP is, how to find trustworthy AI agents, and how to get your hands on AGNTCY today! This episode is brought to you by the Dell⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, by⁠ ⁠⁠Intel⁠⁠⁠, by ⁠Fabi⁠ and by ⁠Gurobi⁠⁠⁠⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/941⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:37) All about AGNTCY                  (12:04) How an agent-human society might function (15:19) What an “Internet of Agents” means (27:17) The future of access management (41:39) How to trust AI agents (48:49) How to get started with AGNTCY

Jon Krohn curates a selection of clips from the month that was. Hear from the orchestrators of an expanding AI universe in this episode of In Case You Missed It, with news, views and groundbreaking ideas from Sheamus McGovern, Jerry Yurchisin, Stephanie Hare, Larissa Schneider, and Adrian Kosowsky. We cover baby dragons, the Hippocratic Oath, and, of course, all the latest in artificial intelligence! Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/940⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

State space models (SSMs), granite models, and Mamba: Dell’s Tyler Cox and Shirish Gupta discuss with Jon Krohn why state space models can process information so efficiently, and how Dell’s AI factory helps enterprises manage custom AI workloads. Hear the latest on the Dell Pro AI Studio and Dell’s partnerships with IBM and Hugging Face in this episode.  This episode is brought to you by the Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS and by Gurobi. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/939⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:58) Dell Pro AI Studio news (23:17) How Dell manages interoperability (28:08) About the Dell/IBM granite models (47:38) How to troubleshoot AI tools (52:36) How Dell performs against benchmarks

Jon Krohn speaks to Rohan Kodialam, Cofounder and CEO of Sphinx, the company that redefines how machine intelligence reasons data with frontier AI. In this Feature Friday, Jon and Rohan discuss the benefits of using Sphinx to assist with data analysis. Get under the hood to learn how Sphinx operates, from running commands to ensuring your data stays secure, and find out how you can get your hands on this great tool for free. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/938⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

AI tools won’t eliminate but elevate data scientists, says Marc Dupuis. The CEO of fabi.ai talks to Jon Krohn about the new wave of AI-driven platforms that integrate workflows within popular work tools like Slack and email, and how building AI-first products means widening access to all ability levels.   This episode is brought to you by the Gurobi⁠⁠⁠⁠, by ⁠⁠Dell⁠⁠ and by ⁠⁠Intel. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/937 Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (09:31) Will fabi.ai outshine data science practitioners      (20:40) Resolving workflows with fabi.ai                             (24:08) Creating AI agents with fabi.ai                                    (45:23) How to avoid ‘gaming’ targets

How much power – and risk – do we carry around with us in our pockets? A Reuters investigation about how easily LLMs can be utilized for online phishing scams is the subject of this week’s Five-Minute Friday with Jon Krohn. By asking six of the most popular LLMs (Grok, ChatGPT, Meta AI, Claude, DeepSeek and Gemini) to generate phishing emails specifically targeting elderly people, Reuters found the safety sometimes severely lacking in the models. Listen to the episode to hear Jon quantify this problem with real-world examples, why mere content warnings in LLM models don’t work, and the troubling results of the phishing requests. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/936⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Jon Krohn speaks to researcher, broadcaster and author Stephanie Hare about how the Hippocratic Oath might apply to artificial intelligence, and a guiding ethos for pushing innovation while protecting users from harm. A code of conduct, she says, could be one approach to ensuring that people are using technology more mindfully and ethically, as well as an opportunity for users to feel that they belong to a wider, global community. Although she sympathizes with people concerned by overregulation undermining innovation, Stephanie also notes that we expect certain standards to be met elsewhere, such as vehicle and drug safety, as well as fair journalistic practices. As Stephanie explains, we need to find a realistic middle ground between innovation and regulation. This episode is brought to you by the ⁠⁠Dell⁠⁠, by ⁠⁠Intel⁠⁠, by Fabi and by Gurobi⁠⁠⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/935⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:23) What ‘technology ethics’ is                (14:46) Developing a Hippocratic Oath for tech  (42:32) How to protect against sensationalism           (53:38) How to maintain a balance of growth and infrastructure

With the number of jobs dramatically slowing in the last year, many question if this decline is down to companies turning to AI for completing entry-level tasks in particular. Research published earlier this month by Yale University shows no major difference in the types of roles and tasks in so-called `white-collar jobs` since late 2022, an auspicious date that coincides with the launch of ChatGPT. In this week‘s Five-Minute Friday, host Jon Krohn discusses if and when AI will undercut junior-level jobs, particularly in the US. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/934⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Sheamus McGovern, CEO of Open Data Science, takes Jon Krohn and his listeners on a journey to launching his popular data science and AI conference, now in its tenth year, as well as the great shifts to the fields that he has seen on the way. For Seamus, the growth of his Open Data Science Conference has shown him that an AI engineer is just the beginning of several roles that will emerge from the industry. He asks Jon to consider the breadth of tasks demanded of today’s engineers, from data profiling and transformation to feature engineering, hyper-parameter tuning, and model deployments. Just as the AI engineer emerged from the data scientist role, Seamus expects the industry to respond to the broadening range of projects and tools with new, niche, and dynamic job roles.  This episode is brought to you by the Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS, by Gurobi⁠⁠, by ⁠Dell⁠ and by ⁠Intel⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/933⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:50) Why Seamus started ODSC (18:27) The differences in AI engineers and data scientists      (24:20) How to keep up with AI’s rapid pace (33:51) How people hire for AI orchestration  (46:26) How companies can get team skillsets right

Larissa Schneider speaks to Jon Krohn in this Feature Friday about finding the right time to invest in AI solutions, and when it’s better to build them yourself. She discusses her work leading global strategy and operations at Unframe, and how they raised $50 million in venture capital since the company’s launch in March 2025. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/932⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

AI predictions, and how to act on them: Data Science Strategist at Gurobi, Jerry Yurchisin, speaks to Jon Krohn about how mathematical optimization helps enterprises automate decisions for business success and where to find the resources to make it happen.   This episode is brought to you by the ⁠ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference, by Fabi, by ⁠Dell⁠, and by ⁠Intel⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/931⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (02:34) What mathematical optimization is (13:58) How to get started with mathematical optimization (45:56) Gurobi’s use cases (56:29) Quantum computing and mathematical optimization

Jon Krohn’s highlights from this month of interviews focus on ways to future-proof your career, looking at the hardware that will get you the most mileage, the emerging roles that are well worth a look, and the developments in AI that will endure in a field constantly testing the durability of its own breakthroughs. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/930⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Breaking news: Jon Krohn welcomes Adrian Kosowski to the show to talk about the groundbreaking research happening at Pathway. Adrian and his team demonstrate how they have brought attention in AI closer to the way the brain functions, creating, in essence, a “massively parallel system of [artificial] neurons” that communicate with one another and exhibit properties similar to natural neurons. The goal is to move beyond the current limitations of transformers, where reasoning can be generalized across more complex and extended reasoning patterns, approximating a more human-like approach to problem-solving. This episode is brought to you by the Trainium2, the latest AI chip from AWS, by ⁠Dell⁠, by ⁠Intel⁠, by and ⁠Gurobi⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/929⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:27) Pathway’s ground-breaking new biologically inspired architecture (20:40) Limitless context windows (34:39) BDH architecture as positive space (53:11) Building multilingual models (1:01:07) How to access the BDH architecture

Prompt injections, malicious code, and AI agents: In this week’s Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn looks into the current security weaknesses found in AI systems. A structural vulnerability that The Economist dubs a “lethal trifecta” could cause havoc for AI users, unless we take the necessary steps to contain our systems.  Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/928⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Earlier this year, David Loker joined CodeRabbit as their Director of AI. As more people come to write code with the help of large language models, David believes CodeRabbit will become a helpful assistant for code reviewing and pull requests. He tells Jon Krohn how CodeRabbit assists developers with real-time feedback, as well as the reality of vibe coding, the optimization challenges of agentic AI, and other pressing questions in AI and tech.  This episode is brought to you by the ⁠Dell⁠, by ⁠Intel⁠, by ⁠Gurobi⁠ and by ⁠ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/927⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (01:26) How CodeRabbit helps with coding    (17:30) Context engineering in context     (40:40) How CodeRabbit keeps data secure      (46:10) David’s thoughts on “vibe coding”                              (1:03:04) If machines will ever be truly creative

In this Five-Minute Friday, Jon Krohn explores how AI is reshaping the legal industry. He investigates how AI tools are helping lawyers make conclusions faster, how paralegals are being retrained, and the latest in-demand role in law (hint: It concerns AI). Listen to hear how Harvey AI and Thomson Reuters’ CoCounsel are using AI to help lawyers get ahead. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/926⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.

Tech innovation’s dependence on economic systems, trust in technology throughout history, and job displacement through AI: The Dieter Schwartz Associate Professor of AI and work at the University of Oxford, Carl Benedikt Frey, talks to Jon Krohn about his latest book, How Progress Ends, as well as how different economic systems deal with innovation and scaling, dealing with the homogeneity of generative AI output, and how to stay afloat in the new wave of job automation. This episode is brought to you by the ⁠Dell⁠, by ⁠Intel⁠, by ⁠ODSC, the Open Data Science Conference⁠ and by ⁠Gurobi⁠. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/925⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information. In this episode you will learn: (04:00) All about How Progress Ends: Technology, Innovation, and the Fate of Nations (14:26) The role of weak ties in driving technological innovation (18:22) How to keep innovating as a big business (48:05) What we can learn and apply from previous industrial revolutions (54:33) How workers can try to ‘future-proof’ themselves

MIT lab NANDA (“Networked AI Agents in Decentralized Architecture”) reveals less than promising results for the future of AI adoption in businesses. According to “The GenAI Divide: State of AI in Business 2025”, a whopping 95% of enterprise AI projects “are getting zero return” on their $30-40 billion investment. Jon Krohn takes this Five-Minute Friday to look into why this has happened, with help from a critical response to the report written by Futuriom’s R. Scott Raynovich. Additional materials: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.superdatascience.com/924⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Interested in sponsoring a SuperDataScience Podcast episode? Email natalie@superdatascience.com for sponsorship information.