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609 - Jason Murray

609 - Jason Murray

2026-10-0802:02:53

In today's show Natural Selection Surf's GM Jason Murray charts his unlikely rise to the photo editor desk at Surfer Magazine in an era where 10,000 slides would pass through monthly, the unknown charger who grabbed a board from a dumpster to nail a cover shot, why perseverance and work ethic can trump talent, the pleasure of discovering a unsurfed wave and the heartbreak of losing it to industrial development, and why a slow death of trad surf culture is giving way to a modern renaissance. Enjoy!
In today's show Scott and David learn about the unassuming bespectacled power surfer raised on the Nā pali coast who descended on the North Shore to reign down spray on the world's finest, they learn from the most academically endowed shaper to ever win Stab's illustrious shaping comp, discover the match that enabled the "Butterback" to be invented and why a financial alliance is limiting it's mainstream embrace, and then they watch it in action at the greatest known wave on the planet. Plus Dukes, Kooks, and more! Enjoy!
In today's show David receives unsolicited pics from a naughty listener, Chas plays a game of Speed Scroll, and then the boys dissect how the surf event of the year dropped and didn't make a splash, learn why you ought not catch two good waves in a row, discover one unconventional trait the best surfers do the exact opposite of you, realize that their parents devised a game to ditch them, and advise what to do when your dog is a bit to amorous. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!
608 - Steve Pezman

608 - Steve Pezman

2026-09-3001:11:17

Publisher Steve Pezman joins us to discuss his new book, how to succeed in print publishing in 2022, why modern surfing needs more counter-culture figures, lament the interviews that he still hasn't gotten, and explain why Olympic surfing showcases a false representation of the sport. Enjoy!
In today's show Chas and David learn about the celestial force that's gifted Erin Brooks her 3-peat, they discover a new tactic to help reduce crowds in the line-up potentially permanently, decide when a Chinese wax job may be worth while, figure out why people smile after a wipe-out, reveal that humans love imperfect pets more, and uncover a hack that could allow you to access all of your wildest dreams. Plus Barrel or Nah?! Enjoy!
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