Surf and Sales

Richard Harris and Scott Leese unpack one of the most honest conversations they've had on the Surf and Sales Podcast. From sales layoffs and negotiating severance packages… to why even top sales leaders struggle to see their own blind spots… this episode dives deep into the realities nobody talks about in SaaS and sales leadership. Topics include: The hidden value of mastermind groups and peer feedback Why successful people still get stuck How to structure a high-impact mastermind ZoomInfo layoffs and the controversy around termination-by-text Negotiating severance packages the smart way What sales professionals should do immediately after getting laid off Why sales careers may need to expand beyond SaaS The psychology of feedback, ego, and career growth Richard finally switching from PC to Mac after 30+ years Plus: an update on the next Surf and Sales in Costa Rica and why attendees call it "life changing." If you work in sales, leadership, SaaS, consulting, or startups — this episode will hit close to home. #Sales #SalesLeadership #SaaS #Layoffs #SalesTraining #SurfAndSales #RichardHarris #ScottLeese #SalesCareers #Negotiation #FounderLedSales

Several important topics discussed including the crazyness of the 2026 sales hiring market. A dive deep into the current state of sales and marketing, exploring the surprising collapse of inbound leads and the chaos that's unfolding in the outbound world. The role of sales training and coaching in the modern sales organization, as well as the concerning trend of tool bloat across the industry. This episode is a must-listen for founders, CROs, VP of Sales, and sales professionals navigating the evolving sales landscape.

Handling objections is more than just memorizing the battle card. Richard and Scott go head to head on how they would sell against each other giving you the perfect objection handling best practices without bashing the competition.  They then dive deeper in how to score more interviews, improve your resume and tell your story in the competitive job market of the sales industry.

Richard Harris and Scott Leese discuss the return to office debate - exploring how company size, sales team experience, and deal sizes are impacting remote vs. in-person work policies. We also tackle the challenges of learning new cloud coding skills amidst busy schedules, and the temptation to simply avoid it.

Back for Season 7!  Special guest Front Row Frankie joins us dive deep into the world of entrepreneurship, sales, and personal growth. Discover Frankie's unique "No Bad Days Mindset" and learn how to build a thriving business while overcoming life's challenges. This insightful conversation is a must-listen for anyone looking to take their career and mindset to the next level.