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Welcome to SurroTales! I'm your host, Emma Lehman, an American living in New Zealand and an aspiring mom on the wild ride that is surrogacy. SurroTales is a platform for intended parents and surrogates to share their stories and advice they’ve learned along the way. Whether you're deep into surrogacy, have already been through it, just starting out, feeling lost, or simply curious about the process, this podcast is for you.
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Lydia is the CEO of Fertility New Zealand (FNZ), a national charity dedicated to supporting, advocating for, and educating individuals facing infertility at all stages of their journey and beyond. In this episode, Lydia highlights the wide range of services FNZ offers, including in-person and online support groups, webinars, a helpline, accessible resources, and a strong community within the infertility space. She also discusses the history of IVF in New Zealand, shifts in the infertility landscape over the years, and the growing presence of surrogacy. Most importantly, Lydia shares valuable tips for navigating infertility—whether personally or with a loved one—and provides insights on how to find the best support.
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Episode Info:
Fertility New Zealand
Facebook Group: Donor Conception and Surrogacy Network NZ
The Listener Article
FNZ Hotline: 0800 333 306
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
The time has finally come to interview a very special VIP guest...our surrogate, Maddy, who happens to be my sister-in-law! Best of all, she might have some very exciting news to share... Spoiler alert, she is 22 weeks pregnant with our baby girl (at the time we recorded this)!!! In this episode, Maddy shares her experience with being our surrogate so far. From making the most generous offer we could have dreamed of (and finding the right time to do it!), the long to do list we had to complete before even getting to the embryo transfer stage—including medical approval, psychiatric counseling, legal agreements, etc. From there, she talks through the embryo transfer process, the dreaded 10 day wait, finally getting our pregnancy news(!) and what her pregnancy journey has been like so far. She also dives into the important topic of speaking to her young daughter, and other family members and friends, about her role as a surrogate and the many lessons she's learned throughout this wild ride (so far!). This was such an exciting and heartfelt episode to record and a fun way to share our big news...we're expecting a baby girl in February and couldn't be more excited and grateful!
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Episode Info:
The Kangaroo Pouch: A story about surrogacy for young children
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Andy's story proves just how global surrogacy can be. Andy lives in Australia and has had two children via surrogacy...each in a different country! First, he shares his experience with having his son via surrogacy in Canada, followed by the story of bringing his daughter into the world through surrogacy in Argentina. He shares the many twists and turns his story took, the differences in navigating surrogacy in both countries and the amazing surrogacy community he's built along the way. He also shares helpful advice for intended parents who might be interested in going down an international surrogacy route. After such a positive experience with the agency he chose for his daughter’s surrogacy, Andy now works as a Parent Intake Coordinator for Global Surrogacy Agency, guiding others as they embark on their own surrogacy journeys.
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Episode Info:
Global Surrogacy Consulting
Andy's Email: andy@andyleonard.com.au
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
When Jen and her husband decided it was time to start a family, she went in for what she thought would be a routine cervical smear. Instead, she was faced with an unexpected cervical cancer diagnosis in her mid-thirties, leading her straight into chemoradiotherapy. Thankfully, with the support of a dedicated medical team, she was encouraged to explore fertility preservation before beginning treatment. She took their advice and a year later, cancer-free, Jen was ready to start her family through surrogacy. In this episode, Jen shares the twists and turns of her journey and how the kindness of strangers, friends, and family helped her bring her beautiful baby boy into the world.
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Episode Info:
Love Makes A Family
Breastfeeding:
Supplemental Nursing System
Newman-Goldfarb Protocol
Jen: Email surrotales@gmail.com to get connected
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Get ready for a fun twist in this surrogate episode! I've already spoken with the intended parent, and now it’s time to hear the surrogate’s side of the story. Meet the amazing Nat, who shares her journey of bringing the adorable Lulu into the world—daughter of Christian Newman, featured in a previous episode and founder of Love Makes a Family!
In this episode, Nat opens up about her experience as a single mom of three boys while carrying a girl for the first time. She discusses the importance of having a support person during her journey, the special bond she and her boys formed with the intended parents (and Lulu!), and her decision to document her surrogacy experience on social media. It was such a joy to hear Nat's perspective, and I can’t wait for you to hear it too!
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Episode Info:
Nat's Instagram
Love From Your Dads Instagram
Love Makes a Family
Growing Families
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Samantha really juggles it all...! While recording this episode, she was just 10 days away from welcoming her twin boys into the world via surrogacy in the U.S. and also managing her thriving organization, Surrogacy Compass. Samantha opens up about her surrogacy journey as an intended parent and how she’s preparing to become a mom of two in just a few short days. Most importantly, Samantha shares what motivated her to start Surrogacy Compass, a service designed to guide intended parents through the surrogacy process...think of it as a "wedding planner for surrogacy" (Samantha even shares what it was like planning her own wedding and surrogacy at the same time)! This episode is packed with valuable insights into surrogacy (especially in the States) and serves as a perfect reminder that you are not alone...Surrogacy Compass is here to support you every step of the way!
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Episode Info:
Surrogacy Compass:
Website
Instagram
Fertility Clinic: Reproductive Biology Associates (RBA)
Surrogacy Agency: Eggceptional Fertility
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
This is a special mini-episode with Sam Everingham, a proud dad to twin girls via surrogacy and founder of Growing Families—an incredible organization that provides education, guidance and support on surrogacy and egg donation globally. They are based in Australia, but offer support related to international (and domestic) surrogacy and host a series of in-person and virtual events around the world. This episode is packed with knowledge and insight related to surrogacy processes from around the world and explains how Growing Families can help you on your journey.
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Episode Info:
Growing Families
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Kiriana (Kiri) speaks so eloquently and honestly about her surrogacy journey, and the path that led her and her partner down that road. Her story is full of heartbreaking challenges and setbacks, but the power of perseverance, medicine, hope and family (especially one amazing sister-in-law!) resulted in their miracle baby boy, who is incredibly loved by their entire surrogacy "village."
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Episode Info:
Cribsheet by Emily Oster
Growing Families
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Laura has done so much for the surrogacy community in New Zealand and is passionate about creating safe and informative groups for surrogates and intended parents to turn to. Laura is a busy working single mother of two and the first double donor surrogate in New Zealand. She shares the beautiful story of helping bring baby Beau into the world for strangers turned friends, and provides so much insight into what to expect as a surrogate...from beginning to end (she even documented her experience on Instagram!). Laura is a big advocate for surrogacy in New Zealand and talks about the communities she's helped create that provide support and community for others going through the surrogacy process.
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Episode Info:
Laura's Instagram: @theirbabymybody
Nat's Instagram: __theboys_andme__
Love Makes a Family
Growing Families
Facebook Groups:
For Surrogates: New Zealand Surrogate Support
For Intended Parents: New Zealand Intended Parent Support
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
I'm mixing it up this episode, and instead of interviewing an Intended Parent or Surrogate, I'm highlighting a very important part of the surrogacy process...fertility counselling. This episode features Andy Leggat, a Fertility Counsellor and the Psychology Director at Fertility Associates in Auckland, New Zealand (who we were lucky enough to have as our counsellor when we were going through surrogacy in NZ). Andy explains the crucial role that fertility counselling plays in the NZ surrogacy process (particularly with ECART: The Ethics Committee on Assisted Reproductive Technology), the importance of prioritizing mental health when undergoing fertility treatment and actionable tips to put your mental wellbeing first when dealing with the uncertainty and lack of control that comes with infertility.
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Episode Info:
Andy Leggat: Psychology Director & Fertility Counsellor @ Fertility Associates in Auckland, New Zealand
NZ Fertility Clinics:
Fertility Associates
ReproMed
Fertility Plus
Fertility Counsellor Resources:
Australian and New Zealand Infertility Counsellors Association (ANZICA)
Fertility Society of Australia and New Zealand (FSANZ)
Fertility New Zealand
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Laura has quite the amazing story and I was so incredibly grateful she took the time to share it on SurroTales! After facing several heartbreaking miscarriages and medical challenges, Laura and her husband turned to surrogacy to start their beautiful family. Then, a couple months later, she found out she was also pregnant! Fast forward to now, she is the proud mom of two beautiful boys who are only 10 weeks apart. Laura has so much knowledge when it comes to choosing the right surrogacy agency & fertility clinic, the power of leaning into fertility communities and how to talk to your kids about the beautiful way they were brought into the world.
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Episode Info:
Fertility Clinic: Dr. Smotrich @ La Jolla IVF
Surrogacy Agency: Conceptual Options
Fertility Companies:
Conceive
Frame Fertility
Carrot Fertility
Children's Book: Families Grow (Dan Saks)
Laura: Email surrotales@gmail.com to get connected
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Lacey shares her incredible and fulfilling experience being a surrogate for her longtime friend and his husband. She talks through the many magical moments that came with this journey, along with the challenges that she faced along the way...particularly when it was all "over" once the baby was born. It's important to highlight the ups and downs that come with the surrogacy process, for both IPs and surrogates, and Lacey shares so much wisdom and insight that will be useful for anyone else going through the process.
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Episode Info:
Stuff Article
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Jenni was the very first person I ever met in New Zealand who had a child via surrogacy. And best of all, I got to meet her adorable daughter when she was only a few months old. Jenni shares her experience as an Intended Parent in New Zealand, including what it was like going through the process during Covid.
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
This episode was extra fun to record because this amazing surrogate, Clare, is currently pregnant with her intended parents' baby girl! She talks through her experience (so far!) with being a surrogate and shares a ton of useful advice that will benefit anyone navigating the surrogacy world...especially other incredible women that might be interested in becoming a surrogate one day!
Penny has a wealth of knowledge when it comes to international surrogacy. She is originally from the UK, lives in New Zealand and went through surrogacy as an Intended Parent via the States. She provides a ton of helpful tips and tricks when it comes to navigating surrogacy abroad and shares her beautiful story of welcoming her son into the world with the help of her incredible surrogacy village.
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Episode Info:
San Diego Fertility Clinic (Dr. Said Daneshmand)
International Fertility Law Group (Richard Vaughn)
Family Matters Surrogacy (Breann Piccini)
Penny: Email surrotales@gmail.com to get connected
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Samantha was the very first person I ever met in New Zealand who had experience with surrogacy...which is the perfect example of how generous she is with her time and how open and eager she is to help others navigating the surrogacy process. Sam was a surrogate a few years ago in NZ and has a wealth of knowledge to share about her incredible experience.
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
I really wanted to kick this podcast off with a bang...and Christian was the perfect person to help me do that! He is a huge advocate for the surrogacy community in New Zealand and has made a tremendous impact on normalizing this beautiful way of creating a family. Christian is the creator of Love Makes a Family—a platform that helps intended parents, surrogates and donors connect—as well as the popular Instagram account, Love From Your Dads. Most importantly, he's the proud father of two adorable children via surrogacy.
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Episode Info:
@lovefromyourdads
Love Makes a Family
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
I thought it was only fair to put myself and my husband, Travis, in the hot seat before I had others spill their surrogacy stories. Trav and I dive into our wild and bumpy surrogacy ride as intended parents so far and all the good, bad and ugly that have come along with it.
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Instagram: @surrotales
Email: surrotales@gmail.com
Welcome to SurroTales! I'm your host, Emma Lehman, an American living in New Zealand and an aspiring mom on the wild ride that is surrogacy. SurroTales is a platform for intended parents and surrogates to share their stories and advice they’ve learned along the way. Whether you're deep into surrogacy, have already been through it, just starting out, feeling lost, or simply curious about the process, this podcast is for you.
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