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Author: Jack Riewoldt & Shane McCurry
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If you had to grab two things from a burning building, what would you choose?
Co-hosted by Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry, TWO AM I is redefining modern leadership, one convo at a time. We invite extraordinary individuals to tell their story through two objects. Big or small, trinket or treasure. Two things that explain who they are, and what matters to them.
Think of us like a supermarket for knowledge: tune in, grab what you need, then apply it in your everyday life. From sports champs to journalists. Builders to coaches. CEOs to musos. These are the fresh takes on leadership that don’t usually make the headlines.
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They first met at a café in Richmond in Melbourne, and Jack and Shane admit, it was connection at first sight. The pair realised straight away that they shared a passion for leadership, growth and a fascination for people and their stories. What began as a professional relationship at the Richmond Football Club, turned into a friendship and partnership co-hosting TWO AM I.In this final episode of season 6, Jack and Shane reflect on their past nine guests, Ariarne Titmus, Daniel Sih, Yasmin Poole, Bianca Chatfield, Beau Miles, Borden Kelly, Laura Thompson & Sarah Sheridan, and Adam Ferrier, and their key takeaways from each conversation. To learn more about Jack and Shane: Jack on Instagram Shane on Instagram Jack on LinkedIn  Shane on LinkedIn Jack and Authentic Leaders Group Shane McCurry   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Adam Ferrier: Building a brand, nurturing creativity, and embracing the unconventional  Adam Ferrier has spent his life trying to understand people, and how to capture their attention. A consumer psychologist by trade, he wrote his master’s thesis on what makes some people “cool” and others not. The founder of creative agency Thinkerbell, Adam believes that brands and people must first “fit in” with the rules of their category before they can truly be distinctive and stand out. He prioritises creativity, and nurturing amongst his team, his work, and every day life. Consistently challenging conventions, Adam is a true creative leader, and whether you consider yourself a creative or not, his unconventional methods could change the way you show up and lead. Links from the episode: Bad Men Do What Good Men Dream The Ethics Centre Bachelor's Handbag Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc3Lx7JoE1rRvbIENFtI-g TWO AM I Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/twoamithepodcast/ TWO AM I Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@two.am.i?_t=8gM3atQEjAN&_r=1 TWO AM I LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-am-i-podcast/ TWO AM I Linktree - https://linktr.ee/twoamithepodcastSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Laura Thompson and Sarah Sherican are the dynamic duo behind the Aboriginal streetwear label, Clothing the Gaps.  Together the pair have journeyed from health promotion to social enterprise, and their shared belief in using  merchandise to build community, led them to create "walking billboards" that spark conversations and support First Nations people. Laura and Sarah deliver a masterclass in utilising the unique strengths of people, to create meaningful social change. Links from this episode: Me and White Supremacy - https://www.hachette.com.au/layla-saad/me-and-white-supremacy-how-to-recognise-your-privilege-combat-racism-and-change-the-world Why I’m No Longer Talking to White People About Race - https://www.bloomsbury.com/au/why-im-no-longer-talking-to-white-people-about-race-9781408870587/ Our Warrior - Documentary about Robbie Thorpe - https://www.ourwarriordoco.com/ Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCvc3Lx7JoE1rRvbIENFtI-g  TWO AM I Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/twoamithepodcast/  TWO AM I Tik Tok - https://www.tiktok.com/@two.am.i?_t=8gM3atQEjAN&_r=1  TWO AM I LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/two-am-i-podcast/  TWO AM I Linktree - https://linktr.ee/twoamithepodcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Broden Kelly was one of Australia’s original content creators, alongside his comedy troupe, Aunty Donna, they pioneered success in the online medium. Sure, the group may have accidentally stumbled across Youtube in search of bigger dreams, their success is no accident. Broden has embraced rejection, resilience and creativity, to become one of our most successful comedy talents. The real secret to his success? Collaboration, and not just the two recognisable faces you see beside him on his comedy skits, but everyone behind the scenes, who through trust and hard work, have mastered a creative workflow. Just like Broden, success and contentment can be found in collaboration and moving outside of the ordinary. More from Broden:The Footy with Broden Kelly Podcast Aunty Donna Youtube Aunty Donna Netflix Show Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Childhood was full of adventure,it never had to be sought out or actively practiced, it happened daily, without thought or much effort, but as we grow the art of adventure begins to shrink.   Beau Miles wanted to keep the magic of childhood and adventure in his everyday, and has managed to carve out a life as a professional adventurer, combining his work as a filmmaker and his love of play.   Beau believes that adventuring is a personal challenge, and requires us to step out of our comfort zone to embark on an adventure, but they don’t have to be big or complex to be worthwhile.   Although Beau’s adventures have consisted of running a marathon in a hotel, and running abandoned railway lines, and has led to him amassing a global audience on Youtube, he will inspire you to inject more play, curiosity and adventure into your own life.   More from Beau:https://www.youtube.com/@BeauMiles   The Backyard Adventurer by Beau Miles book   Links from this episode:The Day My Hat Died videoA Mile an Hour video Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
After debuting for the Australian Diamonds at just 18 years of age, and an illustrious career with the Melbourne Phoenix and Melbourne Vixen, Bianca Chatfield knows what it takes to be a great team player.   She credits her time on the bench, learning from the senior players and a devoted coach to the success she had during her career, and instilling the leadership qualities she employs today.   Although female athletes are significantly underpaid compared to their male counterparts, and a part of sport she would like to see evolve, she’s also grateful for the lessons in entrepreneurship and hustle that came with the pay check.   Bianca teaches lessons on building culture,leading the way in female sport, and being a great team mate both on and off the field, even when you’ve hung up the netball dress for the final time.     To learn more from Bianca: Game On by Bianca Chatfield The Ignition Project   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
She commands audiences, delivers with conviction, and is not afraid to go into battle to amplify the voices of those who cannot, Yasmin Poole is making a name for herself as one of the country’s most influential activists.  Although it wasn’t always this way, Yasmin was a shy child, who, after watching the treatment of her mother and other marginalised communities, began to find her voice. Since that day, she has used it to tirelessly make change for women, Indigenous Australians, youth, and anyone who does have the privilege of using their own voice. Yasmin is an aspiring young activist, Rhode Scholar, and political commentator, who redefines what hard work is, living by the mantra “your freedom is my freedom.”   To learn more from Yasmin:Yasmin Poole InstagramYasmin Poole’s International Women’s Day 2021 SpeechLinks from this episode:Crimp Camp documentary Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Do you have space in your life? Not time, but space. Space to think, reflect, imagine.    After almost burning out in his 30s, Daniel Sih experienced a needed wake-up call, which saw him become a productivity expert and a ‘spacemaker’, advocating for creating meaningful space in our lives.    Daniel is a firm believer that the best leaders and assets in any community and corporate environment are those that take the time to think, rather than those that book back-to-back meetings, and are fast responders to emails.   Living an intentional life starts with making space, and Daniel is here to share his insights to help you get started. To learn more from Daniel: Spacemakers Podcast Spacemaker Book Daniel Sih TED X talk Links from this episode:Clifton Strengths Four Thousand Weeks by Oliver Burkeman  Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
We watched with bated breath, as Ariarne Titmus touched the wall ahead of Katie Ledecky - considered by some to be the greatest female swimmer of all time, but it was far from luck on the day that cemented Ariarne’s name in the history books.    From early on in her life, Arnie had learnt the relationship between hard work and success, a value instilled by her parents that helped forge her path to becoming one of Australia's greatest swimmers.   Paired with her coach, Dean Boxall, their unique relationship built on brutal honesty, shared standards, and unwavering trust, has been the ‘key’ in unlocking the fierce competitor. Beyond the glory is humility, a love for family, and a passion which extends past chasing the black line.    Now on a hiatus from swimming, she shares what’s next for her, and if she will be repping the green and gold in LA in 2028.Keep up to date with Ariarne:Ariarne Titmus Instagram   Ariarne’s 400m gold medal win at the Tokyo Olympics Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
They first met at a café in Richmond in Melbourne, and Jack and Shane admit, it was connection at first sight. The pair realised straight away that they shared a passion for leadership, growth and a fascination for people and their stories. What began as a professional relationship at the Richmond Football Club, turned into a friendship and partnership co-hosting TWO AM I. And in this final episode of Season 5, Jack and Shane reflect on their guests over the past eight episodes, what they learned from each on nurturing love language, the art of observation and accepting death.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously  CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   To learn more about Jack and Shane: Jack on Instagram Shane on Instagram Jack on LinkedIn  Shane on LinkedIn Jack and Authentic Leaders Group Shane McCurry   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
  ‘Generous, patient and tenacious’ are the three words Des Flanagan says sum him up and always have. Des is a boy from Beechworth in regional Victoria, who found himself performing in the Moulin Rouge kicking a leg, singing some of the greatest love songs ever written and having the time of his life. In his first lead role in a mainstage show, Des spent two years and 10 months playing the lead male protagonist Christian 657 times. His love for the stage began with little concerts with his siblings curated for their parents, until Des realised that family fun was to become his destiny. What followed was years of study at the prestigious Victorian College of the Arts, beginning his career in musical theatre. While Des has starred in Neighbours and a few short films, he’s definitely ruled IN doing some great Australian film work in the future.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Des Flanagan:   To learn more about Des: Des on Instagram Des on IMDB Aran Micheal Management   Links from this episode: Moulin Rouge How Des Flanagan learnt he had the role of 2021   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Richard Baker is one of Australia’s most creative, engaging and groundbreaking investigative journalists with five Walkley Awards and 15 Melbourne Press Club Quill Awards to his name. And when it comes to creating compelling and unique audio, Richard is world class with the likes of Phoebe’s Fall, Wrong Skin and The Last Voyage of The Pong Su in his podcast back catalogue. Investigative journalism requires patience and perseverance, which Richard has in spades, but his key to developing solid story ideas comes from the art of observation. He never leaves home without his notebook but does leave judgement at the door in pursuit of his craft and seeking out the truth. Following a successful career at The Age newspaper Richard took the leap and launched a premium storytelling company with the ambition to be the southern hemisphere’s best independent creator of podcasts, documentaries and limited series.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Richard Baker:   To learn more about Richard: Richard on LinkedIn Southern Ocean Media   Links from this episode: Wrong Skin Phoebe’s Fall Last Voyage of the Ponsu Bagdad Nights And then they run (BAND) Non-Hodgkin Lymphona   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
He’s a charismatic publican, musician and martial arts referee. And there isn’t anything Greg ‘Clanger’ Kleynjans puts his mind to that he doesn’t do with 100% passion and a good sense of humour. He’s the kind of guy who knows everyone and has done A LOT, but you wouldn’t know it because words like humble and genuine sum up this one in a million human. Clanger is a true storyteller, with a back catalogue of material to work with. He’s not just a former fighter himself but has officiated hundreds of Mixed Martial Arts fights across Australia, the US, China, Japan and beyond. He also played a key role creating one of the AFL’s greatest dynasties of the modern era (the Richmond Tigers). Oh and if you haven’t heard of the band the Shandy Butchers, then listen in, because that yarn is frankly a clanger!   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Greg ‘Clanger’ Kleynjans:   To learn more about Clanger: Clanger on LinkedIn Clanger on IMDB   Links from this episode: Clanger at the Richmond Tigers Mixed Martial Arts Grace Emily Hotel   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The hustle is real. But for Madelyn Carafa, there had to be another way to balance the career she always wanted with motherhood all while looking after her physical, mental and spiritual self. After leaving the corporate world it was her ‘side hustle’ The Healthy Hustlers podcast that ignited her passion to help others fuel their health and wellbeing goals through healthy conversations, while also reinforcing her own desire for greater connection and purpose. The podcast has not only become a hit show but has helped Madelyn redefine many aspects of her life, from the meaning of success, on how to treat balance, understanding everyone’s unique journey, and the importance of embracing love language. Feel renewed and reinvigorated!   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Madelyn Carafa:   To learn more about Madelyn: Madelyn on Instagram Madelyn on LinkedIn Madelyn Carafa podcasting/coaching   Links from this episode: The Healthy Hustlers podcast     Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Changing his name from Andrew to Osher (meaning happiness in Hebrew) may have been an ‘aggressive rebrand’ but for Osher Günsberg it helped put a space between the “him who was drinking and using and the him that got to live the rest of his life not being that guy anymore.” Years on, Osher is raw and real when he speaks about mental illness, addiction, sobriety and death. In recounting his journey from hosting the hit TV shows Australian Idol and The Bachelor, to his breakthrough radio days, and now as a best-selling author, successful podcaster and passionate Dad, photographer and cyclist, Osher doesn’t leave anything unsaid and works to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life. If you loved Part 1 of Osher’s raw and real story, don’t miss Part 2. In this episode, Osher dives even deeper into his journey through mental illness, addiction, sobriety, and confronting death. He leaves nothing unsaid, sharing his experiences to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life. TWO AM I Listen Curiously   *Language warning | Difficult themes* REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467.   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Osher Günsberg:   To learn more about Osher: Osher on Instagram Osher on Facebook Osher on Wikipedia   Links from this episode: Back, After the Break Better than yesterday podcast   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 1: Osher Günsberg Part 1 Changing his name from Andrew to Osher (meaning happiness in Hebrew) may have been an ‘aggressive rebrand’ but for Osher Günsberg it helped put a space between the “him who was drinking and using and the him that got to live the rest of his life not being that guy anymore.” Years on, Osher is raw and real when he speaks about mental illness, addiction, sobriety and death. In recounting his journey from hosting the hit TV shows Australian Idol and The Bachelor, to his breakthrough radio days, and now as a best-selling author, successful podcaster and passionate Dad, photographer and cyclist, Osher doesn’t leave anything unsaid and works to inspire others as we all navigate the ups and downs of life.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   *Language warning | Difficult themes* REMINDER: If this episode has raised any issues for you, in Australia you can contact Lifeline by phone on 13 11 14 (24/7); Lifeline via text on 0477 13 11 14 (24/7); Suicide Callback Service 1300 659 467.   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Osher Günsberg:   To learn more about Osher: Osher on Instagram Osher on Facebook Osher on Wikipedia   Links from this episode: Back, After the Break Better than yesterday podcast   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 9: Jack Riewoldt & Shane McCurry They first met at a café in Richmond in Melbourne, and Jack and Shane admit, it was ‘connection at first sight’. The pair realised straight away that they shared a passion for leadership, growth and a fascination for people and their stories. What began as a professional relationship at the Richmond Football Club, turned into a friendship and partnership co-hosting TWO AM I. And in this final episode of Season 4, Jack and Shane reflect on their guests over the past eight episodes, and what they learned from each; from how to embrace your inner child, to believing in yourself and others, and how to breathe through the tough stuff.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously  CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   To learn more about Jack and Shane: Jack on Instagram Shane on Instagram Jack on LinkedIn  Shane on LinkedIn Jack and Authentic Leaders Group Shane McCurry   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I Linktree  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 8: Tansel Ali Tansel Ali used to have a terrible memory. He’d forget people’s names, conversations he’d just had, numbers, and even had difficulties remembering what he just read. It was when he started learning ‘memory techniques’ that he realised his memory wasn’t bad, it was just untrained. Tansel was in his early 20s when he discovered memory training, at the same time he learned he needed serious stomach surgery, having been diagnosed with Crohn’s Disease. So while he recovered in hospital he put his mind to work. Since then, Tansel has been crowned four-time Australian Memory Sports Champion, memorised two Yellow Pages phone books, authored two books, created educational initiatives for schools and helped people with dyslexia, ADHD, as well as high performance athletes, keynote speakers and corporate leaders.   **We would like to say an extra special thank you to Tansel for recording this episode with us just a few days after his Dad had passed away, we so appreciated his willingness to sit down and chat and be so open. Our condolences to Tansel and his family**   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Tansel Ali:   To learn more about Tansel: Tansel on Instagram Tansel on LinkedIn Tansel on X Tansel on YouTube Tansel Ali website   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 7: Penelope Jordan A bike rave, Korean BBQ, bouldering and pole dancing are just a handful of new things the First Timers Club has tried, since kicking off in January 2024. And Penelope Jordan couldn’t be more thrilled that her idea for a club for curious grown-ups looking to connect with others, has taken off. The genesis for FTC came after she returned from a stint overseas and following Melbourne’s COVID lockdowns, when she and her friend Rosie held their first activity when it was just the two of them. But the popularity has grown, where complete strangers come together to do a thing, realising the ‘first time’ isn’t necessarily about the activity, but rather getting past the fear and anxiety of showing up in the first place.    TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Penelope Jordan:   To learn more about Penelope: First Timers Club on Instagram The First Timers Club website The First Timers Club ABC News The First Timers Club Frankie   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I LinktreeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Episode 6: Ben Northey Music was in Benjamin Northey’s blood from a young age, and he credits his teachers at Ballarat Clarendon College for encouraging his path into music where he studied flute, clarinet and saxophone. But it was the belief and mentorship of John Hopkins who encouraged Ben, at age 29, to be the first candidate for his new Master of Music in Conducting degree at the Victorian College of the Arts and Music that he will never forget. Now as Chief Conductor of the Christchurch Symphony Orchestra and Principal Conductor, Artistic Advisor Learning and Engagement of the Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, Ben says he’s one of the luckiest people he knows because he loves what he does. From conducting orchestras the world over, to collaborating with big names including Tim Minchin, James Morrison, Sting and Hilltop Hoods, Ben is living his dream and is ever grateful for those who helped him get there.   TWO AM I Listen Curiously   CREDITS   Hosts: Jack Riewoldt and Shane McCurry   Thanks to our guest Benjamin Northey:   To learn more about Ben: Ben on Instagram Ben on LinkedIn Benjamin Northey website Ben Northey on Wikipedia Melbourne Symphony Orchestra: Ben Northey Christchurch Symphony Orchestra: Ben Northey   Links from this episode: Edward Elgar: English composer Finland’s Sibelius Academy Vladimir Jurowsky: Conductor John Hopkins: Conductor & mentor London Philharmonic Orchestra   Find TWO AM I on social media here: TWO AM I YouTube TWO AM I Instagram  TWO AM I Tik Tok TWO AM I LinkedIn TWO AM I Linktree  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.







