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Uncomfortable topics, unconventional viewpoints and thought-provoking conversations about life, love, relationships, family and everything in between. Take a deep dive into the male psyche with Bachelor Nation favorites Mike Johnson and Dr. Bryan Abasolo as they give advice, get advice, and most importantly, push you outside your comfort zone. Join the conversation along with our special guest every week as we learn, reflect and talk it out!

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In part one of Mike and Bryan’s exclusive interview with Bachelor Nation’s Zac Clark, Zac opens up about his sheltered upbringing and discusses how he went down the dark path of drugs and addiction. Zac also reveals how he kept his drug use a secret from almost everyone in his life.Plus, Zac tells Mike and Bryan about the last few hours he was on drugs and shares the story about reuniting with the bank teller who saved his life. Zac also discusses what it was like dating while sober on “The Bachelorette” and how his fiancée Tayshia responded to him revealing his past struggles. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
Bachelor Nation fan favorite Ivan Hall joins Mike and Bryan to discuss their experiences dating outside their race. Bryan opens up about being in an interracial relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay and what he’s learned about Black women over the course of their marriage. Mike discusses the hate he’s gotten in the past for dating women who were not Black. Plus, Ivan talks about his upbringing and what it means being half Asian and half Black in this country. He discusses how he embraces both cultures and the ways he’s standing up for BLM and the AAPI community.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
Bravo’s “Summer House” star Carl Radke opens up about his brother’s tragic passing and how it changed the course of his own life. Carl reveals he went from self-medicating and partying four or five nights a week to now being sober and in therapy. He also explains what he learned about mental illness from his own experiences and his brother’s death. Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss what they do for self-care, and Bryan shares why therapy has been so beneficial in his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay. Mike and Bryan also answer fan questions, including how to tell your family you’d like to attend therapy.   Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. 
Should you date when you’re broke? Is sharing a bank account a good idea once you’re married? Mike and Bryan talk to financial expert Dr. Lynn Richardson, who shares pointers and suggestions for the best way to talk about money in a relationship. She reveals who really should pay for that first date and why gender roles and money are a thing of the past. Then, Mike and Bryan share their own experiences dealing with finances in relationships. Bryan discusses the fun way he and wife Rachel Lindsay learned more about each other’s spending habits. Mike and Bryan also talk about how their cultural differences affect how they see finances and family. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. 
Actor/documentarian Patrick Moote joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his quest to find out whether women really care about penis size. Is it true that men who have smaller penises generally make up for it in other areas? Nothing is off limits as Patrick, Mike, and Bryan have a no-holds-barred conversation about it all. Patrick also describes his search for penis enlargement options and what conclusions he came to along the way. Plus, Mike and Bryan discuss some of their own insecurities throughout their lives and how they overcame them. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. 
“Click Bait” host Joe Amabile joins Mike and Bryan for an in-depth talk about men and vulnerability. Joe discusses his upbringing in Chicago and how that influenced his ability to open up in his future relationships. Plus, he reveals how being on reality TV taught him to communicate, share, and be vulnerable. And is “Bachelor in Paradise” in Joe’s future? He discloses whether he’d be willing to head back to the beach and admits he has his eye on a few women from the last couple seasons of the show. Plus, is crying a sign of weakness for men? Mike and Bryan open up about the times they have broken down throughout their lives. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. 
Chelsea Vaughn, from Matt James’ season of “The Bachelor,” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss quitting her corporate day job and following her dreams of becoming a model. She opens up about the challenges she has faced in the modeling world, including her age, the color of her skin and her body size.Then, Chelsea flips the script and asks Mike Johnson which girl from her season he finds most attractive. Plus, Mike and Bryan answer listener questions and address the double standards between men and women – covering everything from body hair to “dad bods.” Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
It’s the age-old question: What do women really want? Mike and Bryan welcome love expert Diann Valentine to discuss what women are really looking for. From love languages to what happens between the sheets, they get into it all. Diann also reveals the big difference between what men and women look for in a relationship. Then, Mike and Bryan tackle viewer questions. Bryan opens up about his home life with wife Rachel Lindsay and reveals who does the chores. And Mike discusses the importance of honesty in relationships. Have a question you want Mike and Bryan to answer? Submit yours now at Instagram.com/talkingitoutbn. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Thanks to our sponsor: Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOut 
Cory Wharton from MTV’s “The Real World,” “The Challenge,” and “Teen Mom” joins Mike and Bryan to discuss his unconventional family, and why communication is such a key piece in its success. Cory discusses co-parenting with his ex, Cheyenne, and the struggles they’ve had along the way while raising daughter Ryder.   Plus, Mike and Bryan open up about their different upbringings. Mike discusses how growing up in a predominantly female household shaped him into the man he is today, and Bryan talks about having three older siblings who lived overseas and the effect that had on his life. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. 
In an emotional discussion, Mike and Bryan weigh in on the racism surrounding Bachelor Nation and how it is affecting them personally. Bryan discusses his wife Rachel Lindsay’s interview with Chris Harrison, and how he felt watching Rachel in that position. Mike also reveals that Chris called him shortly after the “Extra” interview and shares his thoughts on their conversation. Plus, where does Bachelor Nation go from here and how do we learn, grow, and be better? Mike and Bryan weigh in. Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.
Mike and Bryan discuss how they maintain successful relationships while also having demanding careers. Bryan reveals how he and wife Rachel Lindsay are managing their current long-distance living situation, and what their plans are for the future. Plus, NFL star Matthew Judon joins the conversation to talk about how his wife deals with his football schedule and his long hours training. Have a question you want Mike and Bryan to answer? Submit yours now at instagram.com/talkingitoutbn. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode. Thanks to our sponsor:  Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOut
Professional matchmaker Paul Brunson offers Mike some advice when it comes to setting standards for the person you want to spend your life with. Paul also discusses the importance of timing in a relationship, and Bryan reveals how timing influenced his relationship with wife Rachel Lindsay. Plus, is there a right way to break up with someone? And why is marriage in the U.S. on the decline? Paul addresses all these questions and more in this week’s podcast.  Then, Mike and Bryan answer fan questions on everything from fantasizing about another man while having sex with your husband to a possessive boyfriend who doesn’t want his girlfriend to post sexy photos on Instagram. Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode.   Thanks to our sponsor: Dollar Shave Club: DollarShaveClub.com/TalkItOut 
Photographer and “America’s Next Top Model” judge Nigel Barker gets candid with Bryan and Mike on this week’s “Talking It Out” about everything from love to how best to pose for a photo. Despite hanging around some of the most beautiful models in the world, Nigel explains why his wife of 21 years never gets jealous. Nigel also opens up about his beginnings as a model and what led him to photography. And, Nigel gives advice on how to pose for a photo – and it’s all in your head!Plus, Nigel discusses his new virtual endeavor, V1VE, and why fitness should be an essential piece in all of our lives.Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode!
Current Bachelor Matt James sits down for a conversation with Mike and Bryan that only the three of them could have. Matt discusses his “type” and sets the record straight about dating Black women. Plus, Matt shares what his life was like before “The Bachelor,” living in a tiny NYC apartment with Tyler Cameron. Then, Matt reveals the piece of advice Mike gave him before going on the show… which led to him gaining 15 pounds.   Be sure to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode! 
Former NFL star, sports analyst, and best-selling author Emmanuel Acho joins Mike Johnson and Bryan Abasolo for the podcast premiere of “Talking It Out with Mike and Bryan.” Emmanuel breaks down the unwritten rules of being Black in America and gives advice to Bryan on how he and Rachel can best teach their (future) biracial children. Emmanuel also shares the most important lesson he’s learned from the great Oprah Winfrey and reveals whether he’d ever step into the role of Bachelor. Plus, Mike Johnson shares his true feelings, once and for all, about not being chosen to become the first Black Bachelor.  Don’t forget to rate and subscribe so you never miss an episode! 
Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, the Wondery App, or wherever you listen to podcasts. Uncomfortable topics, unconventional viewpoints and thought-provoking conversations about life, love, relationships, family and everything in between. Take a deep dive into the male psyche with Bachelor Nation favorites Mike Johnson and Dr. Bryan Abasolo as they give advice, get advice, and most importantly, push you outside your comfort zone. Join the conversation along with our special guest every week as we learn, reflect and talk it out! 
Comments (1)

Mollie Peters

Hey guys! I really enjoyed your podcast today - my husband and I listened to it together. Loved the interview at the beginning and loved that Mike was so open about his feelings about the Bachelor. I agree with you, Bryan, Mike is a wonderful human being and I personally think he should have been the Bachelor. Would have loved to hear more about his story and see his journey. Anyways, keep up the good work and looking forward to the next episode! (I just had eye surgery and it is a long recovery - podcasts are my sanctuary!)

Jan 12th
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