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Hannah and Sarah Sturm grew up in the same household, live in neighboring towns, and hang out all the time. But in one respect, they couldn’t be more different: Sarah is a professional cyclist while Hannah has spent most of her life successfully avoiding bikes at all costs. They both know that Sarah has a weird job, and Hannah isn’t afraid to ask the sorts of questions that most people in the bike world would be too embarrassed to ask. Why is there a Queen Stage but not a King Stage? How old is gravel racing? Does everyone pee in their chamois? And most importantly, why on earth would anyone choose this as a job? Join the Sturm sisters every week to hear them laugh about their vastly different careers, argue about their shared memories, and drop unfiltered takes on just about everything.
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It’s festive season, and while many of us might be celebrating Christmas or Hanukkah, Hannah was gathered around a fire with 40 other people singing very earnestly about the solstice. Sarah has been thinking about venison, Alex Honnold, and a high-profile retirement from a young cyclist. Later, both sisters answer listener questions about sock length, zones, books, snacks, and crit racing. Shout out to RoadiD for sponsoring this episode. Head to roadid.com/talkingoveryou for 15% off you...
Sarah and Hannah are on their own again this week and they’re feeling nostalgic about the time Hannah ate dog food as a kid and that one year when they got laundry baskets for Hanukkah. Sarah also had a birthday this week which brings up some old grievances about being a December baby. Plus, they talk about the Tetris game of finding and maintaining sponsors as a gravel privateer. Instagram: @talking.over.you TikTok: @talking.over.you.podcast
When Iz King found out she was pregnant a year ago, she was in the middle of contract negotiations for another season as a pro gravel privateer. Throughout her pregnancy and the birth of her now three-month-old daughter, she navigated the opportunities and challenges posed by being one of the first prominent athletes in this niche of the sport to go through the experience. Iz joins Sarah and Hannah to share some real talk about what this past year has been like, from deciding when to te...
The day after Thanksgiving, Sarah and Hannah sat down with their mom, Margie (you might know her from the Spotify comments section), to set the record straight on various points of sibling rivalry, ask questions about her life as an artist and teacher, and talk over each other. Hannah is hormonal, Sarah is unpacking some rage issues, and Margie has an unconventional way of telling stories. Shout out to Road iD for sponsoring this episode. Head to www.roadid/talkingoveryou to get 15% off...
The Sturm sisters got down to business this week by going to the bank, and not surprisingly, hilarity ensued (at least for them). Sarah has also been taking full advantage of the off-season by getting back into mountain biking, and the results have been alarming enough that she’s pretty sure she needs glasses. Hannah has some book recommendations, a very NSFW Facebook Marketplace find, and some harsh feedback regarding Sarah’s recent appearance on a different podcast. In more serious te...
The Sturm sisters are back together in the studio this week and they have a lot to talk about. First up is the 2026 Life Time Grand Prix roster, which was announced last week and which, to Hannah’s shock, included Sarah. When the announcement came down, Sarah was in Mexico City getting a tattoo and had no idea if she’d made the list. Then, they talk about the importance of taking breaks, even from your favorite hobbies. Hannah’s relationship with tattooing is evolving, and it’s got both Sturm...
Sarah is in Mexico City this week at yet another wedding and has had a blissfully bike-free few days. Hannah, meanwhile, has gotten back into running thanks to all that New York City Marathon talk last week. In this episode, the Sturm sisters chat about Sarah’s experience in her new favorite city, her time in the baby PeaceCorps in high school, and Hannah’s re-entry into running. Then, they dive deep into the challenges of being a female pro athlete in your mid-30s, including the decision abo...
Both Sarah and Hannah were busy attending weddings last week and they returned with stories to tell, including one that involves multiple instances of outdoor nudity. Hannah’s trip contained both packrafting and a day in Vegas, while Sarah’s involved a plane companion so unpleasant that it ruined her anniversary. Later, they discuss pet wrangling, Gravel Burn, and Sarah’s mysterious rash, but mostly, they just want to spread un-fact-checked thoughts on the New York City Marathon. Use co...
It’s Halloween week, and you better believe that the Sturm sisters have dressed accordingly. Sarah is settling into her off-season, Hannah is headed to Vegas, and they’re both still a little prickly about a scheduling conflict they had to sort out before sitting down to record. They reminisce over some of their favourite Halloween costumes, discuss the big changes coming to the Life Time Grand Prix in 2026, and contemplate various gender inequities in the sport. Tangents include sex dungeons,...
This week, the Sturm sisters welcome their first guest, Sarah’s mechanic/husband, Dylan Stucki. He’s here to tell everyone exactly how difficult Sarah is to live and work with, and Hannah is here to make sure he doesn’t skimp on details. He also provides a peak behind the scenes on what it’s like to be the support crew during elite races. But first, Sarah recaps Big Sugar, her final race of the season, which was cut from 100 miles to 50 miles due to weather. More importantly, though, she talk...
The Sturms are back in the studio this week and have a lot to catch up on. Hannah went to Albuquerque and got a dulcimer update, Sarah flew business class back to the US from Spain, and both of them are feeling reflective about the career paths they could have taken in an alternate life. In the realm of bikes, they get in way over their heads trying to explain (and define) chain waxing, from crock pots and Vegas to a word that neither of them can pronounce. Then, they dig into all the cycling...
Sarah is still in Spain, but instead of lining up for her own race this week, she was busy chasing Alex Roszko up and down mountains (on foot, no less) trying to get the perfect shot of Dylan during his enduro race. Hannah is gearing up for a trip to Albuquerque but was, unfortunately, home long enough to have a toe-curlingly awkward conversation with her doctor while getting her blood drawn. The sisters sat down to hash out their weeks, discuss the latest world championships in cycling, and ...
Sarah is finally racing again, and her latest event was a big one — Ranxo Gravel in Spain, the final round of the Gravel Earth Series. Meanwhile, Hannah has been busy dealing with business stuff, reading memoirs, and making her own hair gel. They sit down this week to recap Sarah’s race, including her time in Spain, her unsuccessful efforts at speaking the local language, and what she’s learned about how not to look like an American while in Europe. Then, Hannah tries to explain some sign lan...
Sarah has finally recovered from her illness, which can only mean one thing: shoutouts are back in full force. She and Hannah discuss everything from bear-proof trash cans to Beanie Babies this week, and somehow manage to find the time to talk about the revelatory factoid Levi Leipheimer once shared with Sarah (about peeing, of course). Mostly, though, they’re focused on cycling outfits, the etiquette of group rides, and who various pro cyclists would be if they were American Girl Dolls. ...
Sarah didn’t race this week because, as it turns out, she actually was sick. During her time off the bike, she finally had time to listen to a cycling podcast, and it led to some philosophical and downright existential thinking on being a professional racer. Meanwhile, Hannah went on a trip to Yellowstone National Park, which provided its own revelations. Jorts, snorkeling, lost hats, and yet another bathroom-related horror were on display, all of which led her to conclude that she was right ...
It’s been a rough week for the Sturm sisters. Paramedics were called, flights were missed, and dulcimer videos were watched. In this episode, they sort through the wreckage, chat about the US’s success at the mountain bike World Champs, and discuss a harrowing underwear-based experience Sarah once had in the men’s bathroom at the Barcelona airport. They also talk about Hannah’s reconnection with the TikTok algorithm and how Sarah is feeling about the end of the 2025 racing season. Shout...
Sarah didn’t race this week, but she did get to watch Gravel Worlds and came away with some thoughts. Hannah asks some tough questions about bike components that Sarah tries to answer, and they both listen to a voicemail from their dad about his new hobby. Plus, they discuss a generational divide in thrifting and reflect, on a more serious note, on body image and eating disorders in sport. Thanks to Chamois Butt’r for sponsoring this podcast. Shop our favorite anti-chafe at chamoisbuttr.com a...
Sarah had a rough time in Iowa racing Core4 gravel, and as far as she’s concerned, the corn fields may be to blame. She and Hannah talk about the humidity, what her hair was doing, and why she still loves the people of Iowa. Then, they talk about period tracking, a new era in Tech Decks, and how Sarah defused a tense moment in the bike race by peeing in her shoes. Thanks to Chamois Butt’r for sponsoring this podcast. Shop our favorite anti-chafe at chamoisbuttr.com and use code TALKINGOVERYOU...
Leadville happened, and Sarah survived without hitting a cow this time. She walks Hannah through the race, tries to explain powermeters, and muses over the difference between burning matches and wasting cookies. Then, Hannah shares her experiences with exotic animals this week and posits a framework for judging human decency courtesy of the Cart Narc. Thanks to Chamois Butt’r for sponsoring this podcast. Shop our favorite anti-chafe at chamoisbuttr.com and use code TALKINGOVERYOU for 20% off ...
In the very first episode of Talking Over You, the Sturm sisters discuss their upbringing in Albuquerque and their very different relationships with bikes. Sarah talks about how her childhood dream of becoming a surfer was dashed early on, while Hannah reminisces about the moment her aversion to bikes began. Then, they discuss the Tour de France Femmes, a new pair of shoes Sarah found at the thrift store, and why she is always so nervous about Leadville. Thanks to Chamois Butt’r for sponsorin...
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