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A collection of podcasts from VMware Tanzu, covering IT modernization and digital transformation from every angle. We cover the week’s news, talk with guests, and have the occasional oddball thing. Topics range from engineers in the weeds of cloud, developers, to executives pushing change within their organizations.
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In this episode, Adib and Michael discuss the concept of 'Agentic AI' and its historical context within technology evolution. They talk about how new UX patterns and capabilities have defined different technological eras and examine where AI agents fit in this narrative. They explore the role of executives in integrating AI into their businesses, emphasizing the importance of experimenting, learning constraints, and understanding UX-driven applications. The conversation spans practical insights, user-centric experimentation, and the future impacts of AI in enterprise environments Links mentioned: Adib on agentic AI. Another write-up of what executives can do to help AI at their organization, from Camille Crowell-Lee. Adib in LinkedIn. Adib's blog.
In this episode of Tanzu Talk, Coté and Purnima Padmanabhan discuss the evolving landscape of private vs. public cloud infrastructure and the crucial role of developer platforms. Purnima elaborates on the need for a seamless developer experience, focusing on the advantages of Tanzu Platform 10 and its new features. They wrap up with insights on upcoming announcements for the Tanzu product suite at the Explore Barcelona conference. Check out the Tanzu Platform for our recommended private cloud platform.
In this episode, Purnima Padmanabhan, the general manager of Tanzu at Broadcom, talks with Coté about the evolution of DevOps and platform engineering. Purnima has worked at many interesting over the years LoudCloud, BMC Software, and VMware. That experience gives her a great perspective on the industry's ongoing journey to empower developers to deploy code into production quickly and reliably. The discussion follows the industry innovations and trends from early infrastructure automation to the rise of cloud computing and the emergence of platform engineering.   Purnima highlights the enduring challenge of bridging the gap between development and operations, emphasizing that the core objective remains consistent: accelerating the time it takes to move code into production. She underscores the importance of continuous improvement, noting that the industry is still striving for perfection. The conversation also delves into the nuances of platform engineering and DevOps, exploring the balance between standardization and flexibility, the role of automation in fostering trust, and the enduring need for both development and operations roles.   Purnima also discusses her experiences at various companies and the lessons she's learned throughout her career. Listen in to this 20+ year journey from LoudCloud's early foray into cloud computing to BMC's focus on process automation and VMware's cloud management solutions, all the way up the Tanzu's focus on cloud native development and platforms.   Find Purnima in LinkedIn. And check in on Tanzu.   Chapters:    00:00 Introduction 00:23 DevOps Evolution 01:30 Platform Engineering and Automation 02:24 LoudCloud and Early Cloud Innovations 03:10 BMC Software and Process Automation 04:30 Pivotal and Tanzu Division 09:06 The pull to on-premises 12:12 What ever happened to ITIL? 12:57 ITIL and Service Management 14:41 Remediation and Repaving 19:02 Moka5 21:03 Security Startups 21:40 VMware 22:49 Startup Experience in Large Organizations 26:51 Future of DevOps and Platform Engineering 30:15 Wrap up
JT Perry is back to talk about enterprise AI in healthcare. They also talk about the status of new business models like "doc in a box" and Amazon Health. See the full show notes in the video version of this episode.
Fresh from working on developer platforms at Uber, Serdar Badem tells us his experience working on improving developer productivity. He's working at Tanzu now and so he also discusses the work we're doing to help improve developer productivity.
The phrase "value stream" is used so often in software development that it's easy to forget exactly what it means. "Waste" is another word like that. In this episode, Coté talks with Steve Pereira about value stream mappings, what waste is, exactly, and why it's so difficult to do what seems like an obviously good idea, like value stream mapping. - Steve in LinkedIn. - Steve's book. - Flow community. - Awesome waste/countermeasure handout, including definitions of waste.
In this episode Coté talks with Laura Tacho, the CTO of DX on several topics, starting with tech debt. Laura shares her viewpoint on how the concept and use of 'tech debt' changes based on perspective, and the need for better quantification of these concepts for businesses. They also discuss developer productivity metrics and three types of meetings. Read all of Laura's great articles here.
You always hear that making a series of small changes is better than BIG BANG change. How does this really play out though? Doesn't that seem a little...naive when it comes to large organizations doing the BIG and MISSION CRITICAL work?  In this episode, Coté talks with Betty Junod on this topic. She draws from many sources like her first hand experience as an executive and working with the DevOps and cloud native community. They also discuss making culture changes in organizations and how recent work to figure out how to determine "business value." Watch the video of this recording if you prefer that kind of thing. Mentions: - Betty in LinkedIn. - Betty in Twitter. - The Developer Platform paper. - The Role of a Platform paper. - No Developer Left behind paper.
Ben educates Coté on what Backstage is. Coté is always thinking that new tech does more than it actually does, and he eagerly de-scopes his inflated expectations with Ben's wiseness. This is the most detailed explanation of the core of Backstage you're likely to see, and the two only about third of the Backstage ecosystem overall. See Ben at BackStageCon, Nov 6th, 2023 in Chicago.
The three of us are back to discuss what a service mesh is and why it exists as a stand-alone thing. The result we come to is that you want this kind of network control and management as its own layer, not something that’s built into the stack. Check out the video if you prefer that. Come see us at: VMware Explore EU, Nov, 2023. SpringOne Tour Amsterdam, Oct 9th, 2023. SpringOne Tour London, Oct 12th. Links: Gartner’s overview: Market Guide for Service Mesh. GigaOm’s Service mesh radar.
What does a car manufacture need to do to speed up their software delivery cycle? Manufacturing is often finely tuned following lean and other principles, but the software development and delivery process, oddly, is not. In this episode, we talk about he last five years of software transformation at Jaguar Land Rover (JLR). We discuss the type of software JLR creates for itself, the need to change to transform (driven by quality and speed of delivery), putting CI/CD in place, challenges to change management (mostly about people), and the mismatch between finance and software. Check out Mike in LinkedIn. Also, you can watch the video of this episode here, if you like that kind of thing.
Coté talks with Bryan Ross about fitting Kubernetes (and it's use) into the business strategy. Check out Bryan's YouTube channel for more Bryan.
"75% of IT and business executives say that their companies’ ability to compete is directly related to their ability to release quality software quickly" reads a recent Forrester Consulting report. If that’s the case, why are so many developer in large organizations have a bad developer experience? Paul Kelly wrote up the case for good DevEx and what it looks like for developers on the VMware Tanzu blog recently. In this episode, Cora and Coté talk with him about the blog. Paul also wrote two books on Visual COBOL so, naturally, we open up by talking about COBOL. Why did we ever need more? You can watch the original, streamed video if you like that kind of thing. Links: A Developer Perspective on Developer Experience, the blog in question. Paul on CI/CD. More article from Paul. Paul’s books: Visual COBOL: A Developer's Guide to Modern COBOL and Visual COBOL: New Application Modernization Tools for the Java Developer. Paul in LinkedIn.
In this episode, Coté talks with Corey Dinkens about Tanzu Mission Control. The most recent version can now run on-premises, meaning those who can't run it as a public SaaS now can run Tanzu Mission Control where ever they like, on or off the Internet. We also discuss Tanzu Mission Control in general and some other new features. Learn more about Tanzu Mission Control: - More about the new release here. - Corey's quick demo of Tanzu Mission Control. - More about all of Tanzu Mission Control here.
So you've built an app platform. And those pesky developers aren’t showing up to use. Or, worse, they grumble about it! Did you remember to tell anyone about it, to convince them to use it? You know: marketing! Also, they'll need to know how to use it. And you know what that means! Documentation.  In this episode, Coté and Ben talk about the basics platform marketing: brand, principles, advocacy, internal conferences, and more. They also discuss the role of Backstage in making platforms better, as well as everyday developer life. You can also watch the video of this episode, if you prefer that kind of thing. Be sure to check out VMware’s platforms: For the Kubernetes fans out there: Tanzu Application Platform. And for the PaaS fans: The Tanzu Application Service (based on Cloud Foundry).
This week, Ben and Ed try to help Coté understand what the changes in RHEL open source development mean. We don't figure it out completely, but get close enough. Also, Ed tells us what Crossplane is. Finally, we briefly discuss two new reports from Gartner and Forrester that seek to define the cloud native application stack.
Cloud Foundry Day 2023

Cloud Foundry Day 2023

2023-06-2322:15

Right after Cloud Foundry Day 2023, Nick and Coté do a quick re-cap of the day. Taking place in Germany, there were many people from the German community, and elsewhere of course. Nick goes over his little talk which focused on Cloud Foundry usage and metrics. His recent post on The New Stack includes a lot of the same content. Keep an eye on the Cloud Foundry YouTube channel for recordings of all the talks, including Nick’s and Coté’s.
Cloud Foundry is one of the most mature, most proven platform as a service stacks. And it's open source! Ahead of CF Day on June 21st, 2023 (in person and live), Coté catches up with Ram Iyengar, Chief Evangelist at Cloud Foundry Foundation. They discuss Cloud Foundry's integrations with Kubernetes and related projects, organizations that use and contribute to Cloud Foundry, how Cloud Foundry fits into platform engineering think (and doesn't), the Cloud Foundry Foundation, and how Ram ended up being a developer advocate. Cloud Foundry Day is on June 21st, 2023 in Heidelberg, Germany. It's in person and online, so you can attend whether you're in person, or cozy at home. It's free to attend online. Register for Cloud Foundry Day here. Cloud Foundry. Ram in Twitter. Ram in LinkedIn. Also, check out VMware's Cloud Foundry distro, the Tanzu Application Service (formally Pivotal Cloud Foundry).
In this episode, Cora and Coté talk with Abby Bangser about the platform maturity model draft that the platform working group at the CNCF has been working on. While the draft is a work in progress, the model the team is developed is extremely useful for thinking about how you build and run your platform team. Check out the interview, and if you’re interested in more, take a look at the draft paper. If you’re really full of beans, you can also contribute. You can also watch the video of this episode if you prefer. As Abby mentioned, you can find her by searching for Abby Bangser in most social and web places. She’s @a_bangser in Twitter, @abangser.bsky.social in Bluesky, @abangser in Mastodon, and, of course, in LinkedIn.
We talk about getting PCI compliance into Kubernetes, and other security think in the cloud native world. Securing Tanzu Application Service and Tanzu Application Platform. David Zendzian talks with Cora and Coté about what exactly “security” means in the cloud native context. They use his upcoming paper on PCI compliance as an example throughout. See David in LinkedIn, Twitter, and charming home page. Watch the video of this interview if you prefer that format.
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