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TeachLab with Justin Reich
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TeachLab is a podcast that investigates the art and craft of teaching. There are 3.5 million K-12 teachers in America, and we want to explore how they can become even better at what they do. Hosted by Justin Reich, MIT Professor and director of the MIT Teaching Systems Lab.
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School leaders, education researchers, and others often point to a study conducted by Stanford researchers that suggested the arrival of generative AI in K-12 school has not meaningfully increased the percentage of students who acknowledge some kind of academic dishonesty. Sometimes, school leaders or experts suggest it means there’s “nothing to see here” when it comes to tools like ChatGPT and worries about students bypassing learning. Researcher + Journalist Jesse Dukes joins Justin to dive into the specifics of that study, and compare it with anecdotes from interviews with students and teachers. This episode was produced by Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes. We had additional reporting from Holly McDede and research help from Natasha Esteves and Manassa Kudumu. Thanks to the Spencer Foundation and the Social and Ethical Responsibilities of Computing Initiative at MIT for funding our ongoing research into the arrival of generative AI in schools. And thanks to the Kapor Foundation for funding Jesse’s work in California with KALW public radio. Thanks to all of the teachers and administrators who have talked with us. If you want to take our survey, or learn more about our research into Generative AI and K12 education, head over to tsl.mit.edu/ai and if you want to volunteer for the sister study, in California, visit Jesse’s Linktree.
Justin Reich and researcher and producer Jesse Dukes argue that AI in requires a new theoretical framework. Generative AI, unlike many teaching technologies, is an "arrival" technology, meaning it will be present in school environments regardless of what choices school leaders make about whether to adopt it. Their new preprint Toward a New Theory of Arrival Technologies: The Case of ChatGPT and the Future of Education Technology after Adoption explores the idea of "arrival technologies"But rather than summarize it, hey, why not let the arrival technology do it? So we turn to Google's new tool, Notebook LM for a "Deep Dive Conversation" to summarize the article. Thanks to the Spencer Foundation and the Social and Ethical Responsibilities of Computing initiative at MIT for funding our ongoing research into the arrival of generative AI in schools. Thanks to all of the teachers and administrators who have talked with us. This episode was produced by Jesse Dukes. We had research help from Chris Bagg, Manasa Kudumu, Natasha Esteves, and Andrew Meriwether. If you want to take our survey, or learn more about our research into Generative AI and K12 education, head over to tsl.mit.edu and if you want to volunteer for the sister study, in California, visit Jesse’s Linktree.
Jesse Dukes reports from a two day training one school district offered its teachers, all to help them adapt to the arrival of generative AI in schools. That training proved helpful to teachers, but it’s not clear how much professional development most American teachers are getting, and it appears many are getting little or none. Episode produced by Jesse DukesResearch by Chris Bagg, Andrew Meriwether, and Natashas Esteves. Editorial support by Natasha Esteves. Additional research from Manasa Kudumu. Thanks for the school district that let us visit (you know who are!) Thanks to all the teachers who talked with us for our ongoing research into the arrival of generative AI in school environments. Learn more at tsl.mit.edu/AI.
We've just wrapped up a school year, so our team researching the arrival of generative AI in classrooms shares some fun and inspiring moments of teachers adapting to the new reality. We hear from teachers who role modeled the use of as a tool or resource for students, or to generate amusing and weird curricula. This episode was produced by Andrew Meriwether and Jesse Dukes, and features research by Natasha Esteves, Chris Bagg, Andrew Meriwether, and Jesse Dukes. Original song "The AI is a Hummin'" written by Jesse Dukes with help from Bing CoPilot, and performed by Jesse Dukes. To learn more about our ongoing research, take a survey, or volunteer to be interviewed, visit https://tsl.mit.edu/AI/.
The Arrival of AI powered tools like ChatGPT (now GPT4) in schools has generated concerns that students would use the tool to bypass cognition, or, “cheat” as we colloquially call it. And, it appears many students are doing just that. Early on in our research project about generative AI’s arrival in schools, it seems that English, ELL, and Social Studies at upper levels are particularly likely to encounter students using AI, without permission, to complete assignments. Justin talks to Jesse Dukes who shares a few examples of how teachers are managing this new challenge, and they discuss the wider implications for teaching, ethics, and student well being. This episode was produced by Jesse Dukes. We had research help from Natasha Esteves, Andrew Meriwether, and Chris Bagg. Thanks to the Spencer Foundation for funding our research, and to all the teachers and administrators who agreed to speak with us.
Justin spoke at the Connecticut Association of Boards of Education in November of 2023. You can see his graphics and outline.tsl.mit.edu/AI/ has more generative AI related resources, including our SURVEY for educators, school leaders, students, and parents. Jesse Dukes is leading our current project about the experiences of teachers and students with generative AI this school year.
Today we share another great episode from our friends at Upper MiddleBrow. As students, parents, and teachers happily (or wrenchingly) returned to school, Upper MiddleBrow invited TeachLab host Justin Reich to talk about stories with teachers. They identify many examples of bad teachers and bad teaching in fiction, and while film and TV often present sympathetic teacher protagonists, they wonder if the Great American Teacher novel is yet to be written. Resources and LinksCheck out Upper MiddleBrow, a podcast where hosts Jesse Dukes and Chris Bagg discuss high-craft works of popular cultureOrder Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsSee Upper MiddleBrow’s Teacher Protagonist’s graphicWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
Civics 101 is a podcast refresher course on the basics of how the U.S. government works, born from the brain trust at New Hampshire Public Radio and hosted by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice. This is the second part in their series about the state of civic education in the US. In this episode, TeachLab host Justin Reich joins the Civics 101 team to talk about how teachers choose what to teach, so-called "divisive concepts laws," and how we can approach disagreements without falling prey to "division actors."This episode features: Justin Reich, Director at MIT Teaching Systems Lab and host of the TeachLab podcastLouise Dube, Executive Director of iCivics and member of the Implementation Consortium at Educating for American DemocracyCherylAnne Amendola, Department Chair and teacher at Montclair Kimberly Academy and host of the podcast Teaching History Her Way Resources and LinksCheck out Civics 101: A Podcast, a production of New Hampshire Public RadioOrder Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsClick here to see a map of all the states that have passed legislation limiting what teachers can say regarding race, sex, gender, etc. Click here to see the Interactive Roadmap by Educating for American Democracy.Watch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcript https://sonix.ai/share/XBF9ue1HSi1uek4spV3fHohu Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
Civics 101 is a podcast refresher course on the basics of how the U.S. government works, born from the brain trust at New Hampshire Public Radio and hosted by Hannah McCarthy and Nick Capodice. Today is the first part in their series about the state of civic education in the US. In this episode, the Civics 101 team gauges how we're doing civics-wise and then delve into the perpetually controversial history of history; have we ever agreed upon a narrative for our nation that we can teach students?Walking us through the past, present, and future of social studies and civic education are Danielle Allen, James Bryant Conant University Professor at Harvard University, and Adam Laats, Historian and Professor of Teaching, Learning and Educational Leadership at Binghamton University. Resources and LinksCheck out Civics 101: A Podcast, a production of New Hampshire Public RadioOrder Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In our final episode in our Iterate series, we are joined by one of our favorite collaborators here at the Teaching Systems Lab: artist, creative professional and graphic recorder, Haley McDevitt. Haley is a master of listening, synthesizing, and creating visuals that support big ideas. And, Haley is the illustrator of our host Justin Reich’s new book, Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools.Justin and Haley go behind the scenes to share the creative process for the book’s illustrations. We also hear about Haley’s own experiences with iteration and growth mindset in her creative life, and learn about the amazing resources that she created to support educators who read Iterate. Resources and LinksOrder Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsTake a look at our free downloadable materials for Iterate, designed by Haley McDevittCheck out Haley McDevitt’s amazing graphic recording work Watch our documentary film We Have to Do Something DifferentExplore our course Youth In Front, with illustrations by Haley McDevitt Transcript https://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/iterate-haleymcdevitt/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
This week on TeachLab, we continue our series of conversations with innovative educators with Mel Cheng, a lifelong educator and learner. Mel is the Director of Engagement at What School Could Be, and before that worked as a classroom teacher, technology facilitator and coach, and administrator at Hawaiʻi’s first public charter school for 23 years. A maker enthusiast, Mel believes that intentionally designing environments in which learners are free to tinker builds stronger communities and richer connections.We talk to Mel about her experiences with the Cycle of Experiment and Peer Learning, and the idea that people who can really change the teaching and the learning in schools are the classroom teachers.“Intuitively we know that teachers are the driving force of change and administrators need to create the conditions for this to happen but rarely is that articulated, much less given a road map” Mel Ching’s review of Iterate:The Secret to Innovation in Schools Resources and LinksVisit the What School Could Be platform to find resources for educators and join the community.Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/iterate-melching/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
This month on TeachLab, we’re releasing a series of conversations with innovative educators to celebrate the release of our host Justin Reich’s new book, Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools.This week we’re lucky to be joined by Ronni Moore, an educator who is passionate about re-envisioning what school can be. Ronni is the director of high schools for Crystal House Indianapolis, and was part of the founding team of Purdue Polytechnic High School North, a design thinking high school in Indianapolis, Indiana. We talk to Ronni about the power of relationships, achieving big change through small steps and leading throughout the pandemic. Resources and LinksLearn more about the innovative schools from Ronni’s interview, Christel House Indianapolis & Purdue Polytechnic High SchoolOrder Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/iterate-ronnimoore/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett Beazley Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTube
This week, our host Justin Reich released his new book, Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools. To celebrate the launch and dig into the themes of the book, we’re releasing a series of conversations with innovative educators. In this episode, we’re joined by Erik Burmeister, an award-winning teacher, principal, and superintendent who worked as a highly impactful educator in California for over 20 years before launching his strategic consulting firm, Solutionary Advisors. We talk with Erik about his experiences leading change using design and innovation principles. Resources and LinksPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsLearn more about Erik Burmeister’s work at Solutionary AdvisorsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/iterate-erikburmeister/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the eighth and final episode of our series on Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we talk with Katie Rinderle, a 10 year veteran educator from Cobb County, Georgia. Katie is the first teacher in Georgia to be terminated for violating the state's divisive concept laws. What did Katie do? She went to a school book fair, sponsored by her school, and bought the best selling picture book, My Shadow is Purple, which touches on gender identity. Her 5th grade students selected the book for a read aloud, and Katie read the book and invited her students to do a reflection poem. Then, a parent complained, and Katie was fired. Katie's case has garnered national attention as a test of what public school teachers can and can't teach in the classroom. We’re joined in our conversation with Katie by her attorney, Michael Tafalski, from Southern Poverty Law Center. Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksGeorgia Teacher Fired for Reading Children’s Book About Acceptance - SPLC ArticleKatie Rindele’s Opinion piece on MSNBCSouthern Poverty Law Center’s latest Press Release on Katie’s CaseLearn more about My Shadow Is Purple and Author Scott StuartPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/teacher-speech-e8/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the seventh episode of Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we dive back into our exploration of book bans and challenges throughout the United States. We sit down with Jen Varney and Barb Fecteau of the Massachusetts School Library Association, to hear about how the current climate is impacting the lives of school librarians, and their strategies for navigating these times. And, we talk to Sabrina Baêta, Program Consultant from the Freedom to Read Program at PEN America to better understand the current state of book bans, how they’re increasing throughout the United States, and what concerned citizens can do. Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksLearn more about PEN America’s important work on Book BansFind great resources from the Massachusetts School Library Association Take our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/teacher-speech-e7/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the sixth episode of Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we turn our attention to Guilford, Connecticut. Guilford is a small town with a big commitment to equity for their students, and serves as a microcosm for the debates surrounding schools in the US. Our host Justin Reich sits down with Amity Goss, Assistant Superintendent of Guilford Public Schools, to learn more about what’s happening in Guilford, how it impacts teachers, and the steps that the district is taking to support educators. And, Professor Meira Levinson, Founder of EdEthics, joins us to introduce educational ethics as a powerful tool and resource for having difficult conversations. Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksLearn more about EdEthicsTake our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcript Pending CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the fifth episode of our new series, Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we’re taking a look at book bans in schools. We head off to Florida, the epicenter of this conflict, to find out more about what books are being removed, how this affects students, teachers, and the community, and the actions that educators are taking in the face of these controversial transformations in school libraries and classrooms. Our host Justin Reich is joined by former teacher and educational researcher Natasha Esteves, and accompanied by an interview with Brevard County teacher and founder of Foundation 451, Adam Tritt.Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksLearn more about Foundation 451Take our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/teacher-speech-e5/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett BeazleyFollow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTube
This week, we’re giving the floor to our friends Jesse Dukes and Chris Bagg at UpperMiddleBrow to share one of their summer reading episodes. You’ll listen to teachers offer their summer reading recommendations for teens, and a great conversation about teaching literature. Heads Up: UpperMiddleBrow is a little salty, so there might be a curse word here or there. If you like what you hear, be sure to jump over to UpperMiddleBrow and subscribe to hear more episodes. Upper Middlebrow Notes:We’re joined by two veteran high school English teachers, each with a summer reading recommendation for a teenager. We talk about about how speculative fiction (including sci-fi, fantasy, horror, alt. history) engages teenagers in different ways, and why magic gets a bad rap among “literary” readers. Book recommendations: Never Let Me Go Kazuo IshiguroA Wizard of Earthsea Ursula K. LeGuinAs promised in the episode, we also have Lindsay’s self-syllabus for this summer of reading, both in image format and in a Notion template for your enjoyment!Notion Template: https://confirmed-gray-ae7.notion.site/d101bfaaec8f40848e8a6d3ae2faffd7?v=be5c29b11ad744a599e467cc39365ada&pvs=4 More Resources and LinksCheck out the Upper Middlebrow Podcast for more episodes!Take our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our film We Have to Do Something DifferentPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools Produced by Upper Middlebrow Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the fourth episode of our new series, Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we’re taking a look at autonomy. How much autonomy do K-12 teachers really have, how is teacher autonomy being reduced… and what’s being lost as a consequence? We share a profile of David Graf, a veteran educator from Woodland Park, Colorado. And, our host Justin Reich is joined by law professor Derek Black and education professor Sarah Kaka. Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksTake our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in SchoolsWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/teacher-speech-e4/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett Beazley Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
In the third episode of our new series, Teacher Speech and the New Divide, we take a look at a few of the recent court cases that impact teacher’s freedom of speech, like Kennedy v. Bremerton and Kluge vs. Brownsberg.Our host Justin Reich talks with Derek Black, Professor of Law at the University of South Carolina School of Law, Brock Boone, senior staff attorney at the Southern Poverty Law Center, and Sara O'Brien, researcher at Harvard Graduate School of Education. Special thanks to our friends at Learning for Justice, and the Justice in Schools team at the Harvard Graduate School of Education for their collaboration on this work. Resources and LinksTake our course on supporting youth activism at www.youthinfront.orgPre-Order Justin Reich’s new book Iterate: The Secret to Innovation in Schools at www.iteratebook.comWatch our documentary film We Have to Do Something Different Transcripthttps://teachlabpodcast.simplecast.com/episodes/teacher-speech-e3/transcript CreditsHost Justin ReichProduced by Aimee Corrigan and Garrett Beazley Recorded and Mixed by Garrett Beazley Follow TeachLab on Twitter and YouTubeFollow our host Justin Reich on Twitter
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