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David Whyte returns to continue his conversation in Part Two. David Whyte is a celebrated Irish poet, philosopher, and speaker whose career spans nearly forty years. Known for ten volumes of poetry and multiple best-selling prose collections, Whyte’s latest collection, Consolations II, which contains 52 new essays, continues his trademark exploration of ordinary words and the profound choices that frame our lives. His writing continues to illuminate the connections between inner solitude and communal life, drawing critical acclaim for the depth of his insight into everyday experience. In 2025, he embarked on a major UK book tour, held worldwide retreats and workshops, and launched the “David Whyte Companion”– an online archive of his work and teachings. Whyte’s "Three Sundays Series," monthly immersive online sessions, remain a centerpiece for his global audience, tackling themes from love, to human identity, to personal courage.
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David Whyte is a celebrated Irish poet, philosopher, and speaker whose career spans nearly forty years. Known for ten volumes of poetry and multiple best-selling prose collections, Whyte’s latest collection, Consolations II, which contains 52 new essays, continues his trademark exploration of ordinary words and the profound choices that frame our lives. His writing continues to illuminate the connections between inner solitude and communal life, drawing critical acclaim for the depth of his insight into everyday experience. In 2025, he embarked on a major UK book tour, held worldwide retreats and workshops, and launched the “David Whyte Companion”– an online archive of his work and teachings. Whyte’s "Three Sundays Series," monthly immersive online sessions, remain a centerpiece for his global audience, tackling themes from love, to human identity, to personal courage.
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Tony Hawk is a professional skateboarder widely regarded as one of the most influential figures in the sport’s history. Rising to prominence in the 1980s and 1990s, he became known for pioneering tricks like the 900 and for pushing skateboarding into the mainstream through competitions, video games, and media appearances. He became a household name through victorious X Games performances, and his career highlights include being the first to land the 900 in competition, earning over 70 contest victories, and dominating vert skating across two decades. As an ambassador for the sport, he also founded the Tony Hawk Foundation to support youth skateparks, further cementing his influence and legacy in skateboarding culture.
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Dr. Andrew Huberman returns to continue his conversation in Part Two. Dr. Andrew Huberman is a neuroscientist and tenured professor of neurobiology, psychiatry, and behavior sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. His research centers on brain development, neural plasticity, and how vision and respiration shape human performance and cognitive function. Beyond his work in academia, Huberman is the creator and host of the Huberman Lab podcast, the world’s leading health podcast, where he shares science-based insights on brain and body optimization.Exploring how to improve mental and physical health alike, he is also the author of the upcoming book Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body.
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Dr. Andrew Huberman is a neuroscientist and tenured professor of neurobiology, psychiatry, and behavior sciences at Stanford School of Medicine. His research centers on brain development, neural plasticity, and how vision and respiration shape human performance and cognitive function. Beyond his work in academia, Huberman is the creator and host of the Huberman Lab podcast, the world’s leading health podcast, where he shares science-based insights on brain and body optimization. Exploring how to improve mental and physical health alike, he is also the author of the upcoming book Protocols: An Operating Manual for the Human Body.
Mark Ronson is a record producer, DJ, and songwriter. Beginning his career in the mid-1990s as a DJ, he gained wide recognition in 2006 for his work with Amy Winehouse and Christina Aguilera, earning Producer of the Year for Winehouse’s Back to Black. Over his career, he has earned nine Grammy Awards, along with a Golden Globe and an Academy Award, for projects including “Uptown Funk” with Bruno Mars and “Shallow” from the A Star is Born soundtrack. Ronson has released five solo albums, formed the duo Silk City with Diplo, founded Zelig Records in 2018, and served as lead and executive producer of the Barbie movie soundtrack. His memoir, Night People, is a reflection on his life in music and the culture that shaped it, and it will be published on September 16, 2025.
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In this bonus episode, Ian Rogers turns the tables and interviews Rick Rubin, recently named one of TIME Magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in AI, about The Way of Code: The Timeless Art of Vibecoding.
Ian Rogers is a pioneering executive whose career spans music, luxury, and crypto, with leadership roles at Beats Music, Apple, LVMH, and now Ledger.
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Ian Rogers is a technology and business executive whose career spans music tech, luxury retail, and crypto. He began by building early music websites in the 90s, including one for hip-hop group The Beastie Boys, before leading digital music at Yahoo!. Rogers went on to serve as CEO of Topspin and then Beats Music, which was acquired by Apple. In 2015, he became Chief Digital Officer at LVMH, helping modernize digital strategy across its portfolio of luxury brands. Since 2020, he has been Chief Experience Officer at Ledger, where he oversees consumer strategy for the crypto hardware company.
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Randall Wallace is a screenwriter, director, and producer. He is best known for writing the screenplay of "Braveheart", later making his directorial debut with "The Man in the Iron Mask", and going on to direct "We Were Soldiers", "Secretariat", and "Heaven Is for Real". Braveheart became a critically and commercially successful film, winning multiple Academy Awards and earning Wallace a nomination for Best Original Screenplay. He is the author of Living the Braveheart Life, part-autobiography and part-masterclass, in which he shares the personal journey behind writing Braveheart and explores the life lessons and archetypes within the story that continue to inspire audiences.
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Bernard MacMahon is a filmmaker, most recently directing Becoming Led Zeppelin, a music documentary that holds the record for the highest-grossing opening weekend across IMAX theaters worldwide and is currently the highest-grossing documentary of 2025. He gained international acclaim with the American Epic series, which chronicles the origins of American roots music and the revolutionary impact of early sound recording technology. MacMahon has been recognized for his groundbreaking approach to documentary filmmaking, blending historical research, rare archival footage, and innovative audiovisual storytelling. His work has earned multiple prestigious awards, including audience honors at major film festivals, Emmy, BAFTA, and Grammy nominations and wins.
Becoming Led Zeppelin was released in IMAX on February 7, 2025, with a wider cinema release following on February 14, 2025. The film is streaming now on Netflix, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime Video.
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Ed Ruscha is an artist whose six-decade career spans painting, photography, printmaking, film, and book art. His first artist’s book, Twentysix Gasoline Stations—featuring 26 photographs taken along Route 66—marked the beginning of his ongoing exploration of the interplay between image and text, while later works such as Tulsa Slut and The End expanded this approach across different media. He draws inspiration from magazines, comics, and newspapers, experimenting with inventive materials like blackberry juice, chocolate, and gunpowder to explore the legibility and permanence of words. His work has been featured in major exhibitions including, most recently, ED RUSCHA / NOW THEN at MoMA in 2023 and LACMA in 2024, along with solo shows in Gagosian galleries worldwide.
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Dr. Joe Dispenza is an author, researcher, and lecturer whose work bridges neuroscience, epigenetics, and quantum physics to explore the science of personal transformation. Known for books like New York Times bestseller You Are the Placebo, Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself, and Evolve Your Brain, he teaches how meditation and self-regulation can lead to measurable changes in health and consciousness. He leads workshops and lectures internationally, and he is recognized for integrating scientific approaches to understanding how thoughts and beliefs can influence physical and mental well-being.
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Bob Pittman is the former CEO of MTV Networks and co-founder of MTV. Beginning his career in media at age 15 as an on-air radio announcer, he went on to play a central role in launching MTV in 1981, targeting a youth audience with music video programming. Throughout his career, Pittman has held executive positions at several prominent companies, including AOL Networks, Six Flags Theme Parks, Quantum Media, and Time Warner Enterprises. He currently serves as the CEO of iHeartMedia, overseeing 863 radio stations in 160 cities across the United States and operating on an annual revenue of over $3.5 billion.
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Ian Astbury is the longtime frontman and founding member of The Cult. He began his music career in 1980, initially gaining recognition with the post-punk group Southern Death Cult. The band later evolved into The Cult, with guitarist Billy Duffy, bassist Jamie Stewart, and drummer Raymond Taylor Smith. Known for their blend of post-punk, gothic rock, and hard rock, The Cult released several successful albums throughout the 1980s and 1990s, including Love, Electric, and Sonic Temple, featuring hits such as “She Sells Sanctuary,” “Love Removal Machine,” and “Fire Woman.” Astbury continues to lead The Cult in the present day, most recently fronting the band on their 2025 North American tour, which features music from both The Cult and their earlier incarnation.
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Alex Spiro is a partner at Quinn Emanuel Urquhart & Sullivan and one of the most prominent trial lawyers in the United States. A Harvard Law School graduate, he serves as Co-Chair of the firm’s Investigations, Government Enforcement & White Collar Defense Practice. Spiro has represented a wide range of high-profile clients—including Elon Musk and New York City Mayor Eric Adams—and has served as lead counsel in over 50 trials across federal and state courts. A former Assistant District Attorney in Manhattan, he has also contributed to legal education as a faculty member of Harvard’s Trial Advocacy Program, a lecturer at Harvard Law School, and Chairman of the Board for the Fair Punishment Project, a Harvard criminal justice initiative.
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Chris Carter is a television writer, producer, and director best known as the creator of science fiction series The X-Files. He began his screenwriting career at Walt Disney Studios in 1985 before moving to Twentieth Century Fox Television. There, he developed The X-Files, which ran for 11 seasons and earned him multiple Golden Globe Awards, Emmy Award nominations, and a Peabody Award for Excellence in Broadcasting. Carter has created additional series through his production company, Ten Thirteen Productions, including Millennium, Harsh Realm, The Lone Gunmen, as well as two film adaptations of The X-Files.
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Urs Fischer is a contemporary artist renowned for his experimental and highly unpredictable practice of sculpture, installation, painting, and photography. He often uses unconventional materials, such as wax, bread, and everyday objects, which he employs to explore themes of transformation, impermanence, and creative destruction, allowing his works to transform or decay over time. Fischer’s work, influenced by movements like Surrealism and Pop Art, is marked by a dynamic interplay between construction and deconstruction, permanence and ephemerality, inviting audiences to reconsider the boundaries of art and the fleeting nature of existence. Fischer has held major solo exhibitions at institutions such as Kunsthaus Zürich, the New Museum in New York, Palazzo Grassi in Venice, MOCA in Los Angeles, and galleries including Sadie Coles HQ in London and Gagosian locations worldwide—most recently at Gagosian Gstaad in Switzerland.
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Tobias Lütke is the founder and CEO of Shopify, an e-commerce platform that enables businesses to sell products online and in person. Channeling his background as a self-taught programmer, he built Shopify out of a need for e-commerce solutions while running an online snowboard shop. Under Lütke’s leadership, the company, founded in 2006, opened its platform to third-party developers in 2009, went public in 2015, and has grown to support millions of merchants worldwide. Beyond tech, Lütke is also a racing enthusiast, currently competing in the 2025 IMSA SportsCar Championship as a full-season driver for Era Motorsport.
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Dan Reynolds is the lead vocalist and founding member of Imagine Dragons. Alongside guitarist Wayne Sermon, he founded the pop rock band in 2008, releasing their debut album, Night Visions, in 2012. From the album, hit single “Radioactive” won a Grammy for Best Rock Performance and achieved RIAA Diamond Status. As the frontman of Imagine Dragons, Reynolds has led the band through a string of Platinum and multi-Platinum albums, including Smoke + Mirrors, Evolve, and Origins. In recognition of his songwriting talent, he received the Songwriters Hall of Fame Hal David Starlight Award in 2014. Outside of music, Reynolds founded the LOVELOUD Foundation to support and uplift LGBTQ+ youth through music.
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Gwyneth Paltrow is an Academy Award-winning actress and wellness entrepreneur. Spanning a career over three decades, she is celebrated for her performances in critically acclaimed films such as Shakespeare in Love, The Talented Mr. Ripley, and also in her recurring role as Pepper Potts in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Beyond acting, Paltrow is the founder and CEO of lifestyle brand Goop, and she has authored bestselling cookbooks including It’s All Good and It’s All Easy.
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another great interview. thanks
phenomenal interview. thank you
loved the documentary, but this interview put so much colour on the background of the making of it. Great job.
1:32:56 "How do you learn your craft?"
The ads on these are insufferable, as are some of the guests. Rick is truly living in a fantasy land of privilege- as much creativity as he has facilitated its quite a put off to hear sone if the nonsense he gives airtime to. Pharrell interview was good
Daron was my hero growing up but man the guy has such an ego.
the best
RFK, Jr. is a dangerous crackpot who's done so much harm through the anti-vaxx movement. It's really disappointing to see him get air time here. Unsubscribing...
I paused the podcast at the shaker story and listened to Damn the Torpedos with fresh ears. Shaker everywhere!
I like that Owen made a passing reference to stickers on water bottles, because mine has a Dignan sticker.
very interesting - Hickey's podcast is a marvel.
This interview was one of the best! It was great to learn how John makes music. The creative process is amazing!