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Peter Thiel is an entrepreneur and investor. He is the co-founder and former CEO of PayPal, started in 1998, redefining the world of secure and fast e-commerce. Shortly thereafter, Thiel was the first outside investor in Facebook in 2004. Additionally, he co-founded Founders Fund, which has backed transformative companies like SpaceX and Airbnb, With a background in law and finance, Thiel has consistently championed innovation, whether through his venture capital firm, Thiel Capital, or the Thiel Fellowship, which provides $100,000 grants to young entrepreneurs who have a vision for a new product. Known for his contrarian thinking, Thiel is also the author of #1 New York Times bestselling book, Zero to One, which challenges conventional ideas about innovation and offers optimistic insight into future progress.
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Ben Greenfield is a leading figure in health and wellness, renowned health consultant, New York Times bestselling author, and host of influential podcast, Boundless Life. Voted “America’s Top Personal Trainer” by the NSCA and named one of the “Top 100 Most Influential People in Health and Fitness” by Greatist, he combines cutting-edge research with practical strategies to connect mind, body, and spirit. Greenfield leverages his background as a collegiate athlete and 13-time Ironman triathlete to coach others on optimizing longevity, performance, and well-being. Alongside best friend Caleb Applegate, he is the founder of Life Network, a platform that makes health and wellness accessible to all through cutting-edge biohacking technology, community support, and expert guidance. He’s authored 18 books, including Beyond Training, Boundless, and Endure, and ultimately, he is committed to inspiring individuals to take control of their health, push boundaries, and live with purpose.
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Pharrell Williams is a Grammy-winning songwriter, producer, and performer. Getting his start in music alongside Chad Hugo as the production duo known as The Neptunes in 1992, Pharrell has produced chart-topping hits for artists including Britney Spears, Justin Timberlake, and Snoop Dogg. He has co-composed the music for the Despicable Me film franchise, including hit “Happy,” which became the best-selling song of 2014 and earned Pharrell an Oscar nomination. Pharrell’s collaborations with Kendrick Lamar, Beyoncé, and Gwen Stefani, alongside his work as a solo artist and frontman for alternative band N.E.R.D., have solidified his reputation as a creative force in the music industry. With 13 Grammy wins and two Oscar nominations, Pharrell continues to progress the sounds of post-new jack swing, R&B and rap, and pop.
Currently, Pharrell serves as the creative director of Louis Vuitton, and he has recently announced his role as a co-chair for next year’s Met Gala alongside Lewis Hamilton and Anna Wintour.
In October, his animated biopic Piece by Piece, a collaboration with LEGO, premiered alongside its titular song by Pharrell. The film is now available for rent or purchase to enjoy at home. Link here: https://www.focusfeatures.com/piece-by-piece
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In this episode, Rick connects with the physicist and Nobel Prize winner Richard Feynman. Known for his groundbreaking contributions to quantum mechanics, Feynman’s work inspires curiosity and innovation in science.
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Brianna Wiest is a bestselling author, speaker, and advocate for self-reflection and personal growth. Known for transformative works including 101 Essays That Will Change The Way You Think, The Mountain Is You, and her latest release, The Pivot Year, she has sold over 2 million copies of her books which frequently top global bestseller lists. Now based in Northern California, Wiest continues to inspire as a speaker at businesses, conferences, and bookstores worldwide, and as a partner at Thought Catalog, where she publishes her books and shares deeply personal, thoughtful content. Her work resonates with readers worldwide, offering insight into emotional intelligence, mental health, and discovering inner potential. Her upcoming release, The Life That’s Waiting, is available for pre-order now.
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Bjarke Ingels returns to continue his conversation in Part Two.
Bjarke Ingels is one of the world’s leading architects as the founder and creative director of renowned architecture firm Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG). Recognized for his innovative approach to sustainable and futuristic design, Ingels has led transformative projects worldwide, including the Suzhou Museum of Contemporary Art in China and groundbreaking urban plans like The Dryline in New York. A partner in multiple ventures, he co-founded Nabr, a consumer-first housing company, and collaborated with Lonestar Data Holdings to create the Freedom Payload—a solar-powered, 3D-printed data center designed to store data on the Moon. Named one of Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2016, Ingels is renowned for pushing the boundaries of architecture to address global challenges, blending art, technology, and practicality to shape the future of urban living and sustainable development.
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Bjarke Ingels is one of the world’s leading architects as the founder and creative director of renowned architecture firm Bjarke Ingels Group (BIG). Recognized for his innovative approach to sustainable and futuristic design, Ingels has led transformative projects worldwide, including the Suzhou Museum of Contemporary Art in China and groundbreaking urban plans like The Dryline in New York. A partner in multiple ventures, he co-founded Nabr, a consumer-first housing company, and collaborated with Lonestar Data Holdings to create the Freedom Payload—a solar-powered, 3D-printed data center designed to store data on the Moon. Named one of Time magazine’s 100 Most Influential People in 2016, Ingels is renowned for pushing the boundaries of architecture to address global challenges, blending art, technology, and practicality to shape the future of urban living and sustainable development.
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Matthew McConaughey is an Academy Award-winning actor, producer, author, and professor of film, known for his captivating leading roles and versatility. He has appeared in more than 40 feature films, beginning with his breakout role in Richard Linklater’s Dazed and Confused, that have grossed over $1 billion. While he is most popular for his roles in films including Dallas Buyers Club, Interstellar, Free State of Jones, and the HBO television series True Detective, McConaughey is also the author of Greenlights, his life-changing, #1 New York Times Bestselling memoir that provides an intimate look at his life, career, and personal philosophies. The book has inspired millions of readers through the actor’s unflinching honesty, unconventional wisdom, and lessons learned the hard way about living with greater satisfaction–and it’s now available in paperback and with exclusive new content. Beyond writing and film, McConaughey, alongside his wife, Camila, founded the Just Keep Livin’ Foundation, a nonprofit organization that empowers high school students to make healthy choices by implementing after school fitness programs across 19 cities in the United States.
From November 16-17, McConaughey will be headlining the 2024 Texas Book Festival in Austin, Texas. Joined by authors including Malcolm Gladwell, Naomi Shihab Nye, and Ernest Cline, he will showcase his memoir and celebrate the culture of literacy, ideas, and imagination with readers.
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David Whyte returns to continue his conversation in Part Two.
David Whyte is a prolific Irish poet, philosopher, and speaker whose work that spans nearly four decades has resonated with audiences around the world. Beginning his career in 1986, Whyte has published three books of prose and ten volumes of poetry, including Still Possible and Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words. Through his Three Sundays Series, he creates immersive experiences for his audience that invite reflection on the complexities of human existence in 75-minute online sessions. His latest collection, Consolations II, continues his exploration of language and the choices that shape our daily lives.
This month, Whyte is commencing the Consolations II England & Scotland Book Tour, which will move through Edinburgh, London, Oxford and Brighton. In January, he will speak daily at the Wisdom & Wellbeing Week 1 Intensive in Nosara, Costa Rica, alongside Henry Shukman, Leslie Salmon Jones, and Jeff W. Jones, building a foundation for each day’s conversation by sharing meaningful poetry and thought-provoking commentary.
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David Whyte is a prolific Irish poet, philosopher, and speaker whose work that spans nearly four decades has resonated with audiences around the world. Beginning his career in 1986, Whyte has published three books of prose and ten volumes of poetry, including Still Possible and Consolations: The Solace, Nourishment and Underlying Meaning of Everyday Words. Through his Three Sundays Series, he creates immersive experiences for his audience that invite reflection on the complexities of human existence in 75-minute online sessions. His latest collection, Consolations II, continues his exploration of language and the choices that shape our daily lives.
This month, Whyte is commencing the Consolations II England & Scotland Book Tour, which will move through Edinburgh, London, Oxford and Brighton. In January, he will speak daily at the Wisdom & Wellbeing Week 1 Intensive in Nosara, Costa Rica, alongside Henry Shukman, Leslie Salmon Jones, and Jeff W. Jones, building a foundation for each day’s conversation by sharing meaningful poetry and thought-provoking commentary.
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Killer Mike is an Atlanta-born rapper and actor. His music career began in 2003, with his solo debut, with the album Monster, reaching the Billboard Top Ten, and later gaining global recognition as part of the hip-hop duo Run the Jewels alongside El-P. Since the start of his career, Killer Mike has released seven studio albums, including Michael, for which he won the Grammy Award for Best Rap Album in 2024. Outside of music, he has established a career in television as the host of Netflix’s Trigger Warning with Killer Mike and PBS’s Love & Respect with Killer Mike and as an actor in shows including Billions, Dave, and Ozark. Building on the success and the impact he’s made in hip-hop and culture, Killer Mike is teaming up with Dave Chappelle on their tour, Still Talkin’ That Sh*t, blending music and comedy starting on November 15th.
On November 22nd, Killer Mike is also releasing his latest ten-song project, Michael & The Mighty Midnight Revival: Songs For Sinners & Saints. He describes it as a "testimonial" on life's trials and triumphs, aiming to connect deeply with listeners through themes of faith, struggle, and resilience.
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In this episode, Rick connects with Alfred Hitchcock, the legendary filmmaker known as the "Master of Suspense." Renowned for his innovative storytelling and groundbreaking techniques, Hitchcock's films remain a benchmark for suspense and psychological thrillers in cinema history.
Joaquin Phoenix is widely regarded as one of the best actors of his generation, known for his intense and eccentric on-screen portrayals in period dramas, thrillers, and psychological films. He was raised among siblings who were largely involved in acting, including his late brother, River Phoenix, alongside whom he began his acting career in the 1980s. He made his big-screen debut in SpaceCamp (1986), and he earned his first starring role in the Cold War drama Russkies (1987). Phoenix is known for his commitment to embody each of his roles, particularly in his role as Arthur Fleck in Todd Phillips’ Joker, for which he won the Academy Award for Best Actor. His filmography includes powerful performances in Gladiator, Her, You Were Never Really Here, Walk the Line–where he won a Golden Globe for his portrayal of Johnny Cash–and most recently, Joker: Folie à Deux. In addition to his acting career, Phoenix is an animal rights activist and has taken up producing films like Gunda, and he continues to leave an indelible mark on the world of cinema.
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Tyler Cowen has long nurtured an obsession with music. It’s one of the few addictions Tyler believes is actually conducive to a fulfilling intellectual life.
In this bonus episode, a year after Tyler walked us through the world of the Avant-Garde, and his favorite pop music, Tyler guides us through some of the major pillars of Russian classical music—from Rimsky-Korsakov to Stravinsky.
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Tyler Cowen is a world-renowned economist, professor, columnist, and co-author of the influential economics blog Marginal Revolution. Graduating from George Mason University with a Bachelor of Science in Economics, and later receiving his PhD in economics from Harvard University, he has developed a vested interest in the economics of culture, as he delves into topics including fame, art, and cultural trade in his 19 books. Alongside economist Alex Tabbarock, Cowen is passionate about making world-class economics education accessible through his online platform, Marginal Revolution University. However, he may be best known for his popular podcast, Conversations with Tyler, where he publishes new conversations with the greatest thinkers of today every Wednesday.
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Jason Louv is a bestselling author, journalist, and teacher of magick, meditation, and the occult. His career in journalism has been centered around surveillance, international trade, and technology, with his writing featured in publications such as VICE News, ESQUIRE, Boing Boing, and Motherboard. Through his online education portal, Magick.Me, and his eight books, including John Dee and the Empire of Angels, Louv empowers his audience to master transformation and self-discovery through sacred traditions and spiritual technologies. He is the founder and president of Ultraculture Incorporated, a data-driven media company that blends traditional spirituality and cutting-edge technology, makes spiritual practices to individuals and companies alike. Today, Louv continues to bring the transformative power of mysticism, magick, and meditation to global audiences through his weekly podcast, Ultraculture with Jason Louv.
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Shane Smith is a journalist, and he is the founder and Executive Chairman of international media company VICE Media. Since 1994, Smith has transformed VICE from a small, Montreal-based youth magazine into a global multimedia empire, spanning digital platforms, television, film production, and creative services. As a journalist, Smith has reported on the field in conflict zones including North Korea, Iraq, and Liberia. He grew VICE Media into a platform known for its cutting-edge content, earning critical acclaim and coveted partnerships. Honored for his work on VICE on HBO, Smith is the recipient of the 2014 Emmy Award for Outstanding Informational Series or Special, and he was recognized as the Cannes Lions Media Person of the Year.
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Wes Lang is a contemporary artist based in Los Angeles. His work is best recognized through symbols including skulls, horses, and the indigenous American, as he aims to convey themes of freedom, mortality, and the American Dream. Lang draws inspiration from his heroes–fallen country music icons and jazz musicians–to tap into the rugged spirit of post-pop Americana and inspire a sense of opportunity and mythic adventure. Lang’s artistic reach includes creating pieces for Kanye West and the Grateful Dead. Though his main medium is canvas and paper, he has also produced work using cast bronze, collage, fabric, and hotel stationary, with his pieces held in prestigious international collections like the MoMA, Damien Hirst’s Murderme collection, and an upcoming exhibition at Damien Hirst’s Newport Street Gallery. Represented by Almine Rech worldwide and V1 Gallery in Copenhagen, Lang continues to push boundaries with his unique blend of pop culture and existential themes.
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Jack Mallers is an entrepreneur, software developer, and founder of Strike, an application that focuses on making Bitcoin payments fast and easy. Introduced to Bitcoin in 2013 by his father, Mallers has since been a pioneer in the world of cryptocurrency. In 2020, he launched Strike, popularizing Bitcoin by leveraging the Lightning Network, which enables instant payments transactions across digital channels. His work focuses on transforming how people move money, and how to make financial systems more accessible, inclusive, and decentralized to everyone.
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Joe Sabia is a filmmaker, digital creator, and celebrity interviewer. He began his career in media working across various platforms including television, film, and music videos. In his six years as Senior Vice President of Creative Development at Condé Nast Entertainment, he became a renowned multimedia storyteller, best known for the creations of Vogue’s 73 Questions, Vanity Fair’s One Year Later series with Billie Eilish, and Wired’s Autocomplete Interviews. This past year, Sabia directed his debut feature film “Federer: Twelve Final Days” for Amazon Studios, which recounts Roger Federer’s journey to retirement from tennis. As the operator of Studio Sabia, a full-service production company, he continues to help media companies create memorable content across digital and cinematic landscapes.
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