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This podcast is an exploration of diversity, inclusion, and equity and how these things show up, (or don’t) in our personal and professional communities.

Weeze and Trudi are JEDI Masters, (Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion,) who fundamentally believe that we all have a responsibility to create safer spaces, center marginalized communities and just do better!

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This is our last episode of the season! Trudi and Weeze will be back in September with all new podcast episodes but in the meantime they have set up a curriculum to go back and listen to some of the most influential episodes so far. These are for you whether you are a newcomer to the podcast or if you just need refreshers as you continue on their path to wokeness. These will work in conjunction with our newsletter (that you should sign up for!) and our Facebook page to continue the discussion as always. Our book club will also be reviewing two books a month so there is plenty of opportunity to learn and interact with us. Until then enjoy these episodes...ok byeeeeeee! Foundational Episode 68 - The Basics: justice, equity, diversity & inclusion: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-68-the-basics-justice-equity-diversity-inclusion Episode 25 - Can White folks Experience Racism? (and how TNHTW almost got cancelled): https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep25 Episode 76 - Education vs. Action: Each plays a role in equity but only one creates change: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-76-education-vs-action-each-plays-a-role-in-equity-but-only-one-creates-change From Ally to Accomplice Episode 19 - Lets Cut the BS: From Ally to Accomplice: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-19-lets-cut-the-bullshit-from-ally-to-accomplice Episode 70 - Wait WTF…I can be down and still not be woke?: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/wait-wtfi-can-be-down-and-still-not-be-woke Episode 29 - When Glennon Doyle’s Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep29 Whiteness Episode 37 - The Basics of White Centering: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep37 Episode 41 - Whitesplaining and Webster…A look at language: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep41 Episode 10 - Don’t Be A BBQ Becky: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-10-dont-be-a-bbq-becky Safety Episode 64 - Safe Space, a journey: the what, how & how not!: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-64-safe-space-a-journey-the-what-how-how-not Episode 46 - Do White Folks Deserve Safe Spaces?: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep46 Episode 60 - Byron Katie, The Fairy Godmother of Spiritual Bypassing: https://soundcloud.com/nothowthatworks/ep-60-byron-katie-the-fairy-godmother-of-spiritual-bypassing Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Have you ever seen a “Karen?” She’s the one who storms through the sliding doors with her apologetic husband in tow. Her short “power” haircut, oversized sunglasses and bratty kids let everyone know her entitled ass is getting whatever she wants. She yells and accuses everyone causing as much of a scene as possible, if provoked then she will unleash her final attack saying, “I want to speak to your manager!” This is a “Karen”... she’s not a new phenomenon but she can now be identified properly with the rise of social media. In this episode, Trudi & Weeze break down what being a Karen is and how whiteness plays a major role in being one. Listen in as we explore potential outcomes and how you can help combat all the Karening going on. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Privileged during the pandemic? It may not always feel that way, but many of us are in one way or another. What are you doing with it, though? In today’s episode, Trudi & Weeze are diving into what privilege IS, what it ISN’T, what choices you have during this time, and how you can use this time to rise while making sure others rise with you. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Hey y’all! We’re back and it feels so good! Have you heard people calling themselves “equity informed” or “justice informed?” On today’s episode Trudi & Weeze are gonna give it to ya straight about what those terms ACTUALLY mean, the questions you need to know to figure out if you or a coach you want to work with is truly helpful and not harmful, and some special news and events for y’all! Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks Visit the site: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/ Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
It’s a whole new world out there right now amid the COVID-19 pandemic and with it comes a lot of questions and uncertainty. How do you handle the travel restrictions, event cancellations, and social distancing when it affects your bottom line? Is it even ethical to still sell to people right now? In today’s episode, Trudi & Weeze are exploring the effects of the pandemic here in the US, how to handle it responsibly, and tips to navigate this changing business landscape and keep your online business running as usual as possible. Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
What is International Women’s Day, really? Is it a day for all countries to celebrate women together? Or just a single day to raise up women of color? In today’s episode Trudi and Weeze are exploring this distinction as well as feminism, what it is and isn’t, the role whiteness has played in the feminist movement, and 4 ways you can do better to help support people of color. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
On today's spicy episode Trudi and Weeze are exploring education and action. In creating equitable change both are needed, but sometimes people can confuse the two. This distinction is the core of today’s episode. How does this show up in a professional setting? How do you identify where you are on the spectrum of education vs action? How do you properly support others if you are unable to be in a leadership role? How do you get educated and how do you get actionable? We’re exploring all of this and more in today's discussion. So relax...but also buckle up boo, ‘cause this episode is fire....Oh, and Joaquin Phoenix…. check it it! Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
On todays episode Trudi and Weeze are talking about…perfess…profesh….ahem….professionalism. Trudi and Weeze look at professionalism through the lens of an entrepreneurial or online business mindset. There is this notion that in order for us to become our most professional selves that we have to de-humanize ourselves, but there’s not some inverse relationship between being business-minded and being a human. People are capable of doing both and that is exactly what Trudi and Weeze explore for you today. How do you show up and create a sense of TRUE professionalism while maintaining your individualistic values? How do you need to show up and what to bring to the table in order to help re-establish what it means to be “professional”? Listen in to find out… Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Whether you love it or hate it, the recent SuperBowl and halftime show has got a lot of people up in arms. In this episode Trudi & Weeze are talking all about the halftime performance by J. Lo and Shakira and exploring the topic of duality to explain that it’s possible to both love and hate something at the same time… even the SuperBowl. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Today Trudi & Weeze are sharing their recent masterclass, So You Think You're Woke. We explore why personal development is a critical part of your leadership, the difference between equity and equality, and why it's so important for each of us to do our own work and begin working towards woke. The doors are now open for the next cohort of Working Towards Woke: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/workingtowardswoke Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Today we are joined by trauma healing expert Greg Wietling to continue our series on leadership. We explore creating safe spaces, white privilege, and the importance of understanding the relationship between personal trauma, leadership, and power dynamics. Connect with Greg: https://gregwieting.com Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
In this episode Trudi & Weeze are joined by Ruby Fremon, a transformational coach for today’s thought leaders, to discuss defining and redefining leadership. We explore leading with connection and integrity, empowering those you lead and conscious vs self-conscious leadership. Connect with Ruby: instagram.com/iamruby twitter.com/iamruby youtube.com/iamruby facebook.com/iamruby Via text: Text #POTENTTRUTH to 1-781-336-0160 Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Today Trudi & Weeze are joined by pussy based business coach Julia Wells, who shares her journey of coming to terms with her own white privilege and what it was like to do her work as part of the first cohort of Working Towards Woke. We also explore conscious leadership, leadership with an equity lens and doing better with your clients. Grab your spot for our FREE WORKSHOP, So You Think You’re Woke? January 28, 2020: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/workshop?fbclid=IwAR1yObvNHLooW4LHW9wxGxEZ0yHUt-rezcNnmuaYDMuTk2BQ0AQ4KIe7gQE Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Connect with Julia: Her free Facebook group, Visible AF: https://www.facebook.com/groups/VisibleAF/ On Instagram: https://instagram.com/juliamotherfuckingwells Her website: https://juliacwells.com Her podcast, Wait...WTF Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
In this episode, Trudi & Weeze are joined by professional ultrarunner, motivational speaker, author, and all around badass Mirna Valerio (aka “The Mirnavator”) who shares her experiences as a larger woman in a world of thinner athletes. Together we explore fat shaming, body positivity, and challenging the narratives and double standards around weight and athleticism. Connect with Mirna: https://www.instagram.com/themirnavator/ https://www.patreon.com/themirnavator https://themirnavator.com/ https://www.facebook.com/TheMirnavator/ You can buy a copy of Mirna’s recently published memoir, A Beautiful Work in Progress here: https://www.amzn.com/1503943399 Fearing the Black Body: The Racial Origins of Fat Phobia by Strings: https://amzn.com/1479886750 Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
We throw around a lot of words that can be misunderstood or misinterpreted. In this episode we’re unpacking words like diversity AND inclusion (DNI) and talking about what they were intended for vs. how they are misused. Hop over to episode 44 for all of the ways diversity and inclusion can have an impact. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Today Trudi & Weeze are doing a year end review. We explore the lessons we learned in 2019 as well as our words and themes of the year and big scary goals for 2020. Network & Spill episode: http://networkandspill.com/2019/09/strangerdanger-w-liberation-coach-louiza-weeze-doran/ Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Today Trudi and Weeze are talking about the now infamous and controversial Lizzo Lakers game twerking. In this episode we explore social contracts, making assumptions, internet backlash, and what the real conversation needs to be around Lizzo’s outfit and the game. The doors are now open for the next cohort of Working Towards Woke, starting January 2020: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/workingtowardswoke Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
In this 3rd installment of our series about how to do better, we are talking about accountability. We explore institutional, interpersonal, and community accountabilities — especially as it pertains to the coaching industry — the lack of a standardized code of ethics for coaches, and what coaching certifications really mean (or don’t mean!) The doors are now open for the next cohort of Working Towards Woke, starting January 2020: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/workingtowardswoke Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
In today’s episode, Trudi & Weeze are revisiting the topic of safe space. We explore safe space in general, what that actually looks like, how to create a safe space in your coaching program or group, and why having a group for white folks only to go through Working Towards Woke actually provides a safe space for both them and folks of color. Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ThatsNotHowThatWorks/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
Ep. 63: People or Profit?

Ep. 63: People or Profit?

2019-11-2801:06:09

In this episode, we’re diving into a theme we’ve noticed in the nature of business practice in the coaching industry. We’re exploring how business coaching is often actually profit coaching and has lost the client care focus, all the ways that this is a problem, and the red flags you should run from before hiring a service provider practicing this way. The doors are now open for the next cohort of Working Towards Woke, starting January 2020: https://www.nothowthatworks.com/workingtowardswoke Please join us on the FB Group for more discussion and celebration: www.facebook.com/groups/thatsnothowthatworkspodcast Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee
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