That's Not How That Works

In this episode, we talk about Palestine. We discuss the experiences we’ve both had in the online space as we’ve spoken up about Palestinian Liberation, and the misinformation and disinformation we’ve seen.  We talk about Genocide and the role of government policies, imperialism, and the need to separate governments from the people. We explore the language of violence and how it becomes a tool of communication when oppressed populations are pushed to the limit. We also offer some recommendations for how to navigate conversations, filtering through and discerning media and news updates in realtime and more.  Listen to the full episode to hear:  - Defining Genocide and Its Realities - Power Dynamics of the Oppressor - Challenging Performative Allyship - Understanding True Liberation - Language and The Importance of Context Support the show on Patreon:  - patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources: - EP 19: From Ally To Accomplice - EP 110:  Collective Revolution - Gabor Mate on Palestine & Israel: - IG CLIP - Full Interview   Follow Us: Louiza "Weeze" Doran: - www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/ - www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Trudi Lebron: - www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ - www.trudilebron.com/  

In this conversation, we examine the feedback we received from those who tuned in to Episode 110. From that lens, we offer you suggestions on how to navigate differences and conflict that can inevitably arise in relationships; and what to keep in mind as you are navigating. We offer you indicators of potential obstacles within creating reciprocal relationships, and tips on how to recognize if someone is even on the same page as you. We also discuss how undertones in language used within the feedback we received carry connotations and characterizations related to identities we hold (read more about that in Weeze’s Substack linked below). Listen to the full episode to hear: - The Differences Between Intellectual Debate and Values Mismatch - Holding Space for Conflict in Relationships  - Practicing Restoration and Redemption - Conflict is not always rupture  - Life having no trigger warnings   Links and Resources: - We are more than intimidating - Weeze’s Substack Piece - The Coaches Forum, Hartford, CT - Reclaiming Redemption Culture - Unpacking the Concept of Safe Space P.s. Join us in Hartford for a special That’s Not How That Works Salon at the Coaches Forum!!!

On this episode, we explore the concept of radical change and long-term strategies for social and political transformation, centered on economic shifts geared towards an equitable and communal future. We dissect revolutionary movements, and dream up (in real time) what bringing about change would look like and require of us on an individual and collective basis while centering the most marginalized in our society. We explore the current societal Silent Depression that many are talking about on social media and how it ties into our work, what is so, and how it impacts access to basic needs, and the issues it creates within communities already navigating hardship. Also, note, like Vida shares at the top of this episode, peep it all the way through to get the fullness of the conversation. Trudi and Weeze engage in very real debate within this episode, and we’d love for it to be an offering to your journey of learning to engage with differing opinions in reciprocal, healthy and love centered ways. Listen to the full episode to hear: - The Concept of Radical Change and Cultivating long-term strategies for Social and Political Transformation - The Uses and Impacts of Generational Ideological Indoctrination within Privileged Communities and What We Can learn from this Strategy - Practical Challenges and the Constraints of Real-World Change - Ownership and Agency within the Housing Market - Political Sabotage of Transformative Movements - The Importance of Challenging the Dominant Success Metric that revolves around Financial Wealth Support the show on Patreon: http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks   Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/   Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/  

In this latest episode, we delve deeper into the topics we explored in our previous discussion, where we analyzed Lizzo's lawsuit as a revealing case study on cognitive bias, personal agency, and the intricacies of celebrity culture. Our focus shifts to envisioning alternative resolutions for grievances through the lens of equity and liberation, and one compelling avenue we explore is the concept of redemption culture. Join us as we unravel the origins of redemption culture, tracing its evolution from a community centered practice to its harmful co-opting and weaponization. We navigate the complexities of how to reclaim and embody redemptive interpersonal relationships, both within business and our personal lives. Throughout the episode, we offer practical insights to help you engage with the discourse surrounding what's often termed as cancel culture.   Key Themes Explored: Distinguishing Accountability and Redemption Culture from Cancel Culture The Appropriation of Indigenous Practices Cancel Culture as an Evasion of Responsibility Unveiling the Underlying Goals of Cancel Culture, Both Implicit and Explicit The Roots and Evolution of Woke Dissecting the Vilification of Equity, Social Justice, and Racial Justice Movements Exploring the Dynamics of Restorative Justice in Personal Relationships Unpacking the Ecology, Traditions, and Motivations of Cancel Culture   Support the show on Patreon: http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/    

In this conversation, we delve into the complexities surrounding Lizzo's status as a celebrity, influencer, and the blurred lines between the two. We examine the cognitive biases and reactions that arise when individuals are both fans and critics of influential figures like Lizzo. The discussion navigates through the challenges of holding celebrities to varying standards, especially when personal affinity is involved. We explore the tendency to excuse or rationalize the actions of public figures, and how this behavior can affect the perception of their potential wrongdoings. We offer insights into the cognitive biases that lead to character attacks on accusers and the impact of intersectionality in shaping public responses to allegations. As we dissect the Lizzo lawsuit, we raise questions about workplace culture, social norms, and the dynamic between personal beliefs and collective expectations.  Support the show on Patreon: http://patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources:  Ep. 66: When breaking social contracts break the internet: https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/03cf12f240a8d3a314bb56983c0a48ee The Forum With Trudi: http://equitycenteredcoaching.com/forum PYP With Weeze: https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/pyp2 Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/  

People of all identities connect through shared culture, whether it’s language, region, or a subculture like hip hop. So who gets to decide what culture you have access to and can claim as yours? What makes an expression of culture “authentic?” We’re digging into culture versus cultural appropriation, the difference between culture and race, the impact of socio-cultural environment on expression, and why critiques and call-outs aren’t always helpful or necessary. Listen to the full episode to hear: Make It Make Sense: Why are we one-upping each other about wildfires? The difference between caricaturizing Black womanhood and expressing your natural tone, cadence, and vernacular How race and culture all too often get conflated How callouts without context reinforce the notion of racial monoliths How enforcing and upholding racial stereotypes is a product of white supremacy culture Who actually gets to call out cultural appropriation and whether a cultural representation is authentic or performative Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources: Nina Lin on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@n.nina666 Madonna Might Be An Appropriator…But You Don’t Have to Be: https://pod.link/1358150402/episode/be1bfa8a2cb2944b9296335a49787156 Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

Today, we’re getting into the world of professional sports. Ja Morant is a basketball player for the Memphis Grizzlies who has been in the news this year for multiple incidents of misconduct and erratic behavior and was suspended from multiple NBA games, including his most recent bout of cryptic messages on social media that led to a welfare check by Tennessee police. But what we want to talk about is how we can reframe these events and their aftermath in a more liberatory, anti-oppressive way. Content note: this episode will contain discussion of guns and gun culture Listen to the full episode to hear: A brief history of Morant’s misconduct and why the morality clause in his contract matters more than whether he broke any laws How public perception and brand management shape the consequences of actions like Morant’s How systemic oppression and limited opportunities lead to athletes being upheld as role models when they shouldn’t necessarily be Why it matters that Morant is only 23 The NBA’s evolving response to gun culture in the last decade A youth development approach to handling these kinds of cases that actually supports the person in making change Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: www.trudilebron.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louiza “Weeze” Doran: Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

“This is a safe space.” It’s a common refrain, but what does it mean to be and to create safe spaces? And who gets to decide what is safe? Too often, declaring a space “safe” means being resistant to the discomfort of being challenged or held accountable. We’re digging into safe spaces, how the term has been defanged in popular discourse, and creating spaces that honor everyone’s humanity, while remaining open to challenging conversations, transparency, and accountability. Listen to the full episode to hear: -Why our spaces need to acknowledge and honor the humanity of everyone present -Why safe spaces need to leave room for challenges and accountability -Defining a safe space as a container for a exploration, practice, and transformation happening in community -How the popularization of the term has taken it from safe to soft -Why safe spaces require co-creation, reciprocity, and community agreements -Why consuming someone’s content doesn’t make them responsible for your safety -How aversion to conflict stalls social movements -Why Brene Brown’s definition of a safe space falls so short Support the show on Patreon: -patreon.com/nothowthatworks Links and Resources: -Shawn Ginwright -Ep 29: When Glennon Doyle's Attempt at Allyship Went Wrong -Mellody Hobson: Color blind or color brave? | TED Talk -Ep. 94: So You Wanna Talk About Accountability Learn more about Trudi Lebron: ⁃ Website: www.trudilebron.com/ ⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran: ⁃ Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ ⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

And we’re back! It’s been a minute since we released an episode, so we’re going to catch you up on where we’ve been, how we got here, and what’s coming up for this iteration of the show as we return to our roots of applying our equity and liberation lens to what’s happening in the wider world. Listen to the full episode to hear: ⁃ Our evolution from Hey, Auntie to the coaching and personal development world and back to broader critique ⁃ How Trudi has shifted her work to creating opportunities to reach and impact more people, and why the podcast is a part of that ⁃ Why we need to be willing to get curious and have nuanced conversations about the path forward ⁃ How the show is reflecting Weeze’s realization that she needed to zoom out on how she was getting through the day-to-day ⁃ Why we’re pivoting away from discussing the coaching industry Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks  Links and Resources: ⁃ If I Were a Fish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx_vMONe3tM Learn more about Trudi Lebron: ⁃ Website: trudilebron.com/ ⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louza "Weeze" Doran: ⁃ Website: www.accordingtoweeze.com/ ⁃ Instagram: www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/

It’s easy to look at the day’s headlines and think: That’s not how things are supposed to work! Contempt for the planet. Fear of the other. Rampant inequity. Multi-billionaires in space. But we’ve got news: this is exactly how things are supposed to work. The systems that spin out scarcity, hate, and injustice are working exactly as they were designed to. Our goal is to reveal those systems—not just the ones embedded in our politics and culture but also in our minds—and explore the ways we can start to do things differently. We started this podcast to create a space to shine a light on all of the equity problems that we were seeing in the personal development and online business space. And after 103 episodes of critiquing and providing actionable solutions to this niche audience, we’re zooming out. Today, the project sounds a little different. The scaffolding of oppression is at work everywhere. In current events—from economic news to celebrity gossip, from not-so-random acts of violence to radical culture-making and everything in between. Collective liberation comes from our willingness to confront uncomfortable truths, build community, understand the interconnectedness of our humanity, and reimagine our way forward. There’s a path of possibility ahead of us as long as we can agree that this isn’t how things have to work. That’s Not How That Works brings you a real, unscripted, nuanced critique of the world available on all podcast platforms, so make sure to follow or subscribe on your podcast app of choice. And you can support the show by rating, leaving us a review, sharing the show, and joining us on Patreon for as little as $2 per month - that’s patreon.com/nothowthatworks We hope that you’re as excited as we are about the new format and vibe of the show. Learn more about Trudi Lebron: Website: https://trudilebron.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/trudilebron/ Learn more about Louzia "Weeze" Doran: Website: https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/accordingtoweeze/ Support the show on Patreon: patreon.com/nothowthatworks

In this episode Weeze and Trudi wrap up are series with a special invitation to eXpand. eXpansion is the process of liberation, personal exploration, equity, and transformation of our personal and social futures, and for the first time in three years, they are partnering up to facilitate this journey in a 4-month container that you are invited to. For all the details visit: www.yourinvitetoexpand.com

If liberation isn't the goal, or destination (as we covered in vignette 3) then what is? In this vignette Weeze & Trudi share the next step in the process of personal liberation and expansion, defining the destination.

In this vignette, Weeze and Trudi explore reframing the concept of liberation from a destination or goal, to a process and practice.

In this episode we talk about the importance of reimagining what's possible in our lives, in our work, our world, and more. Weeze and Trudi have been on a reimagining journey of their own, both when it comes to their personal and collaborative work. We'll continue to talk about why reimagining is an important process in liberation and anti-oppression work.

Trudi and Weeze are going rouge and have decided to release a 5-part minisode to catch you up, and bring you up to speed and where we're at and where we're going, The basics: That's Not How That Works is coming back with a new team, an upleved vibe, and expanded vision of the future... and we want you to come with us. We have big plans and we'd love for you to join us. Take a screenshot of the episode, share it to Instagram @trudilebron and @accordingtoweeze to skip ahead and get even more details about what we're up to and how can be down :)

The world is on fire, y’all and there’s so much to unpack both globally and personally. There are actual wars going on—the war on the Black and queer communities as well as voting rights here in the U.S. happening simultaneously with the war in Ukraine—and some major life and business changes for us as well. So we’re gonna take a little break, y’all. But before we go, don’t miss today’s episode where we’re breaking down all of this, sharing updates on our lives and the podcast, and leaving you with some things to do and ruminate on while we’re gone to make things more equitable in YOUR world. Let’s explore: - What bothers us particularly about the war in Ukraine - Some small things you can do that can make massive shifts for people - The changes Weeze has been making in her business to make things more accessible and equitable (and an invitation to rethink your own business practices as well!) - Why we’re stepping away from the podcast (temporarily!) - Trudi’s big news Pre-order your copy of Trudi's book: The Anti-Racist Business Book For the full story on Weeze’s eye condition, go back and listen to Ep. #102: Your Urgency is Not my Emergency Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/trudilebron https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

It's been an interesting and exhausting couple of weeks, y'all! But wanna know what’s REALLY been chapping our asses lately? Then you don’t want to miss today’s episode where Trudi and Weeze are breaking down the expectations (and massive misconceptions) that come from the kind of work that we do, THIS thing that’s happening with the language of anti-racism and anti-oppression, and why more than ever it's important to give people the space to be human. We're unpacking: The imaginary social contracts between high visibility figures and those receiving their free service (and why it’s bullshit) What to do if you’re on either end of this imaginary social contract How to balance doing DEI work and taking care of yourself Why Weeze has been less active on social media lately Pre-order your copy of Trudi's book: The Anti-Racist Business Book Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/trudilebron https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks Want to work with us? Find us here: Trudi: https://trudilebron.com/start/ Weeze: https://www.accordingtoweeze.com/ Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

What does it cost to have the life you want? Really, it’s the life you have, right? In today’s episode, Trudi and Weeze are bringing you examples of how we’re embodying this in our own personal and professional lives to let go of the old and create space for new priorities and projects both on a personal front and in our social justice work. Join us for some big news from Weeze, a secret from Trudi, what we’re most excited about this year, and what we’re actively creating space for. We’re exploring: - The different layers of social justice work (including the ones most people don’t think about!) - ONE place where a big change needs to happen to make a substantial shift in direct service social justice work - How we’ve shifted our schedules to create more space for the things that are important to us - Why we don’t worry about business pivots - How to really achieve your goal of balance between work and family Pre-order your copy of Trudi’s book: The Anit-Racist Business Book Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/trudilebron https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Happy 100 episodes, y’all!! For this episode, Trudi & Weeze are reflecting on the past 100 episodes of the podcast and sharing the biggest lessons we’ve learned from it. Join us for a look back at how we got here, what’s changed for us and the podcast in the last 3 years, what we wish we had known about podcasting from the start, lessons we’ve learned about business partnerships, and what’s coming for the next 100. Become a patron: https://www.patreon.com/nothowthatworks Follow us on Instagram: https://instagram.com/trudilebron https://instagram.com/accordingtoweeze https://instagram.com/nothowthatworks Music by Dennis “Aganee” Jenkins https://www.aganee.com https://instagram.com/therealaganee

Hey y’all! Today, Trudi and Weeze are bringing you a special minisode before we break for the holidays. Listen in for what we’re celebrating as we wrap up 2021, what we’d love for you this holiday season, and how to prioritize your most important relationship.