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That's So Deep
Author: Phyllis Wong
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Hello! It's Phyllis and Julie! Welcome to That's So Deep! We created this podcast because we found ourselves craving deeper conversations and deeper relationships. We wanted a place where we could be real, feel it all, lift each other up, laugh, cry and grow together. If this sounds good to you, then come hang out with us! We know that your time and attention are valuable so we hope you come away feeling a little more known, a little more connected and a little less lonely. Love - Phyllis & Julie
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Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about What Your Inner Critic Sounds Like and How to Get it to Shut Up (Based on the work from Playing Big by Tara Mohr). Some deep things we cover: Inner Critics are like buttholes. We’ve all got one!Inner Critics are the Risk Aversion Department of your brain.Inner Critics are more concerned with safety than truth: They’ll...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. This is the third episode in a series where we explore Our Complicated Relationship To Our Stuff. Today we are closing out our series with Core Values and Gratitude. Some deep things we cover and some take-aways: Values Lists: Find a list of values and journal about which ones resonate with you.Highlights and Lowlights: Think about the hi...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. This is a first in a series where we explore our complicated relationship to our stuff. Today we are talking about why we hold on to stuff and why it is so hard to let it go. Some deep things we cover: Our Stuff Represents Memories: A loved one passing, a childhood memory, a time when you were happy.Our Stuff Represents A Past Ident...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are having a conversation about HAVING A CONVERSATION! Some deep things we cover: Interrupting means:You DON’T care: Interruptions can mean poor listening and show lack of care.You DO care: In certain cultures, interruptions and overlap can show engagement and that you do care about the conversation and relationship.Monologuing - When ...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. In this episode, we talk about CONFLICT. There was a lot that we covered in this episode so the list is longer than usual. Hope you come away with some take-aways! Some deep things we cover: Phyllis sees conflict as an opportunity for connection and understanding yourself.Julie is a lover not a biter: Julie talks about how she woul...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. In this episode, we tackle the topic of BOUNDARIES. This is the first of a two part episode so stay tuned for our next episode where we talk about BOUNDARIES and PEOPLE PLEASING! Some deep things we cover: Where did Phyllis and Julie first learn about boundaries and personal space? Julie discusses what it was like growing up in a...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Making Decisions: Are You A Satisficer or a Maximizer? Some deep things we cover: What kind of decision makers are Phyllis and Julie?How does people pleasing factor into decision making?Decision Fatigue: This occurs when there are too many options and your brain can’t quite process it all.Hard Choices vs. Big Choices:...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Vulnerability - Part 2: Why Do We Armor Up? How Can We Show Up Authentically and Find Communities Where We Belong? (based on work by Brene Brown). Some deep things we cover: Fitting In vs. Belonging: When you fit in, you change yourself to enter the community. When you belong, you show up as you are and are embr...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Vulnerability - Part 1: What it is and What it isn’t (based on work by Brene Brown) Some deep things we cover: TW: Phyllis and Julie share some raw thoughts and feelings after the school shooting in Uvalde. Please take care of yourselves and skip the first 8 minutes of the podcast if you need some space to proce...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about The Power of Music to Create Human Connection. Some deep things we cover: Phyllis and Julie share how music was such a joyful part of their upbringing.Phyllis and Julie love to dance! I see a virtual dance party in our future.Music is Ancient: It is embedded in so many cultures and has been with us since the beginning...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Love Languages: How to Love Our People by Speaking Their Language (based on The 5 Love Languages: The Secret to Love that Lastsby Dr. Gary Chapman). Some deep things we cover: What are the 5 Love Languages? I’m glad you asked! 1) Acts of Service 2) Words of Affirmation 3) Gifts 4) Quality Time 5) TouchPhyllis an...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Loneliness: What Is It? How Does It Feel? And What Can I Do About It? Some deep things we cover: What is Loneliness? Mental health professionals define it as the gap between the level of connectedness that you want and what you have. It turns out that loneliness is incredibly subjective.Loneliness is...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Forgiveness: Why Forgive and Forget is NOT the Goal. Some deep things we cover: Apologies and Forgiveness are not a Gift Exchange: They are separate processes that happen for people on their own time. They take work, time and patience.Forgiveness is the deliberate decision to release feelings of anger, resentmen...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Fake Apologies vs. True Apologies: What’s the Difference? Some deep things we cover: Fake Apologies: Conditional apologies, blanket apologies, silencing apologies…we’ve heard them all and done them all.True Apologies (according to Dr. Harriet Lerner): Do not include the word "but". Keep the focus on your act...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. We discuss topics that help us connect more deeply with ourselves and with those we care about because we believe that connection is the antidote to a lonely heart. Today we are talking about Toxic Positivity (based on the work by Susan David in Emotional Agility). Some deep things we cover: The “Everything Happens for a Reason” Mantra: I...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about What We Can Learn From Our Regrets. Some deep things we cover: Reclaiming Regret: We are joining author Daniel Pink in reclaiming regret as a useful emotion for our humanity.The Beautiful and Ephemeral Quality of Life: Regrets can be painful because there are moments that we cannot get back once they are gone.Phyllis & ...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are celebrating our 20th episode with 20 Questions with Phyllis and Julie! We hope you enjoy it and get to know us a little better :) Find out: What subjects Phyllis and Julie were bad at in school.What Phyllis and Julie find hard that most people find easy.What Julie’s pets would sound like if they could talk.What Phyllis and Ju...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today’s episode is titled Feedback: It’s Everywhere…So Why Do We Get it Wrong? Some deep things we cover: Feedback is Life: Understanding feedback helps us grow and connect to each other.First Understand Feedback: Don’t take feedback at face value. Before reacting to feedback, ask questions. Three Categories of Feedback: Appreciation, Coa...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Unsolicited Advice Part 2: What Motivates Us to Give Advice? Some deep things we cover: We are a Helpful Species: We made it this far because people know how to work together and collaborate. Advice can be a way that people try to help.But Sometimes We Can Be Unhelpful (oops!): There are times when we give advic...
Hello So Deep Peeps! Welcome to That’s So Deep. This is the podcast where we try to root out loneliness one conversation at a time. Today we are talking about Unsolicited Advice: The Thing We Love to Give And Hate to Receive. Some deep things we cover: How do you feel when people give you unsolicited advice?Relationship Triggers: Sometimes you can’t take advice simply because of the relationship you have with the person who is giving the advice even if the advice is sound.T...
















