That Good Fight: A Reformation for Gentlemen

British evangelicals calling upon men to act like men, love their country, reform the Church, and change the world.

Interview with Bishop Ceirion Dewar: "Far Right" Bishops, Political Churches, and Christian Nationalism

Why are people now talking about Christian Nationalism in Britain? Why are the mainstream media and secular societies suddenly coming out in force to discredit it? And why do so many established church leaders agree more with the secularists than the Christians? How did the Church become so politically impotent to speak into nationalistic concerns? What does it mean to be a nation and to seek to preserve one's cultural heritage? Why have Christians been so unwilling to stand up for inconvenient truths in these areas? In this special episode Aaron speaks with Bishop Cei Dewar, who caused something of a storm when he spoke boldly at the Tommy Robinson rally after the 2024 Paris Olympics, in an impromptu speech which subsequently went viral. He has since spoken at various related events including the apparently controversial "Unite the Kingdom" rally. Who is he? What are his main influences? How did he learn to preach like that? Why is such preaching so different to other bishops? And was it fair of Sky News to call him "the Far Right bishop"?  Al this and more in this extensive episode of That Good Fight podcast. Please consider supporting us at our Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/posts/145720218   LINKS: Bishop Dewar's Youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@BishopDewar   Related articles from That Good Fight Substack: Questions About Christian Nationalism: 10 Responses to the Curious, the Confused, and the Concerned Who's Afraid of Christian Nationalism?: The Ideological Battle against a Christianity that Changes the World Is Tommy Robinson Welcome at Your Church?: Evangelical Anxiety, the "Far Right", and Christian Nationalism

12-13
01:36:09

Abortion, Feminism, and Evangelical Cowardice: Interview with Dave Brennan

While many evangelical churches call themselves "conservative", the reality on the ground is often very different, especially when it comes to challenging front-line issues which might offend the closet feminists in their midst. This is one reason why evangelical churches and leaders struggle to talk about obvious Biblical moral issues like abortion at just the time they should. In this episode, Aaron interviews Dave Brennan, who heads up Brephos, seeking to help conservative evangelical churches in Britain embrace an unashamedly pro-life emphasis. How did evangelical churches get to this point where they needed reminding about an issue that is seemingly so obvious? What other Biblical and historical examples of challenging social issues can be drawn upon to help pastors think through the problem? What is the long-term cost of ignoring a more robust evangelical witness on social issues? What kind of reformation does the Church require in order to wake up and speak up? Resources mentioned: Brephos: https://www.brephos.org/  Centre For Bio-Ethical Reform UK: https://www.cbruk.org/ UK Baby heartbeat bill petition: https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/733380 Relevant articles on abortion from That Good Fight: "On Abortion and Reputation": https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/on-abortion-and-reputation  "The Evil of Misapplied Nuance": https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/the-evil-of-misapplied-nuance "Why Liberals Love Abortion": https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/why-liberals-love-abortion "Too Few Christians Stand For Life": https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/too-few-christians-stand-for-life 

11-27
01:05:23

Why Are Evangelical Churches So Cowardly?: Discussion with Pastor Ebow Essel

What's gone wrong with modern evangelical churches? Why are they so feminised? Why do the men no longer know how to act like men? Why are "Bible-believing" churches often so reticent to apply Bible passages that challenge the way they do (or don't do) things? If evangelical churches are "Gospel people," why have they often been so quick to capitulate to social or state pressure to stop meeting and evangelising? In this episode, Aaron is interviewed by Pastor Ebow Essel, a former military man, to talk about how this social "conditioning" of the Church leads it to ignore the commands of its commanding officer in the midst of the battle. Over the last 50 years in particular, it's obvious that the desire to engage the culture for Christ has led many Christians to simply capitulate to secular norms in everyday life. In light of these many compromises, what will it take for the Church to wake up to the demands of the Word of God in our time, and regain its courage, faith, and obedience in light of the advance of the kingdom in our nations? https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/

11-21
46:30

Interview with Terry Virgo - Apostles, Prophets, Reformers, and Pioneers

What does it really mean to be a reformer in the Church? Many evangelicals laud the legacy of the Protestant reformation whilst holding very tightly to particular traditions and practices within their churches which can, over time, drift further and further away from Biblical norms. Those who seek to recover them usually end up causing trouble, one way or another.In this special episode of That Good Fight, Aaron interviews Terry Virgo, one of the most important leaders in the Church in Britain within the last 50 years, having founded the Reformed charismatic movement, Newfrontiers, which has since grown to several thousand congregations in many nations across the world. Virgo recounts some of his story, including his time sitting at the feet of Dr. Martyn Lloyd-Jones, who gave him vital advice in the midst of the conflicts he was being confronted with by other church leaders at the time.Aaron and Terry discuss what lessons can be learnt when "pioneering" beyond the existing ecclesial establishment, what often goes wrong with the modern "charismatic" movement, particularly in relation to worshp, and what it means to take a more thoroughgoing Biblical approach to the role of the Spirit in both challenging and encouraging His people when most needed.For more of Terry Virgo's content:https://www.terryvirgo.org/For more of Aaron Edwards' content:https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/

10-24
01:05:59

Interview with CR Wiley: Pastors, Households, Inklings, and Bots

In this special episode of That Good Fight, Aaron talks to author, pastor, writer, and property developer, CR Wiley. Beginning with some of Wiley's own testimony, they discuss a whole range of topics, including masculinity, pietism, the working class, liberalism, and the emotional affectation of evangelical pastors. They also discuss the significance of households in the mission of the Church and the transformation of society in light of his book, The Household and the War for the Cosmos, the importance of money for Christians, the significance of Tolkien and the Inklings for our times, as well as his more recent reflections on A.I. and its potentially "Sauronic" effects on human civilization. To invest in our podcast, please consider becoming one of our Patreon members: https://www.patreon.com/c/thatgoodfight For more of CR Wiley's work: CR Wiley's Substack: https://crwiley.substack.com/  CR Wiley's books: https://crwiley.com/books/  For more of Aaron Edwards' work: https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/

10-01
01:38:06

Recovering the England We Lost

What happened to the England we once knew and loved? How did it come about that the raising of the flag of the Cross of St. George is now seen as "controversial" in England? Why do so few Christians care about their people, place, and culture anymore? Why are Roger Scruton's reflections on "the forbidding of England" so poignant and timely despite being written a quarter of a century ago? How can Christian men step up to help make this green and pleasant land Christian again? ***This will be the last episode with dodgy sound issues. Thanks for bearing with us.*** Please support us via Patreon: That Good Fight Podcast: A Reformation for Gentlemen | A podcast calling patriotic Christian men to rebuild Christendom | Patreon See also related articles on the Substack: Multiculturalism, Nation, and Church: Why Christians Should Care about the Cultural Surrender of Britain Lost Greatness and Moral Decay: Making Britain Christian Again, Part I  What Makes a Christian Nation: Making Britain Christian Again, Part 2 Reawakening the Nation: Making Britain Christian Again, Part 3 

09-13
01:28:32

Interview with Bob of Speaker's Corner - Why Britain Needs Muscular Christianity

What will it take to truly reach Britain for Christ? In this special episode, Aaron sat down with Bob of Speaker's Corner to talk about the need for the Church to wake up to the front line issues all around them, challenging the soft effeminacy of the Church, and recovering the need for a more outward and front-footed "muscular" Christianity, as we've seen in varioius ages of the Church.Such an approach requires the kind of faith that is willing to take more risks in bold proclamation of that faith before our enemies, as well as a unity among Christians. But it also requires boldness in recognising that political strategy should be an important aspect of the Church's mission too - this is something too few modern Christians have been accustomed to thinking about, let alone doing anything about it.   Apologies again for the sound issues (we're working on it...!)   Support us here: https://patreon.com/thatgoodfight

08-21
01:39:22

Britain's Decline, the Power of Kings, and the Awakening of the Church

The recent parliamentary votes on abortion up to birth and assisted suicide suggest a deep erosion of British morality and identity. How could such bills represent the moral compass of a nation with historic Christian foundations? Aaron and Nathan wonder aloud how bad would things have to get before our present democratic constitutional monarchy could be called into question? What is the cost of the loss of true nobility in the nation over the last century? And why has the Church been so impotent? What might it take to speak truth to the patriots of Britain and other nations who are starting to feel the loss of Christendom? **WE APOLOGISE for the terrible sound issues on this episode.** If you want to help us produce more content with fewer such issues, please consider supporting us here: https://patreon.com/thatgoodfight

07-04
01:04:26

Woke Right, Far Right, and Christian Nationalism

One of the problems in recent evangelical institutions has been following the trends of secular culture. This can happen overtly, as with the effects of BLM and Covid in 2020. But it can also happen with the remnants of liberal thinking even among otherwise conservative leaders. In recent times, the term "Woke Right" has been used even by Christians as a stick to beat the new social "deplorables" who take a more rightward approach to the mission of reaching western culture today. What does it mean to apply the Gospel not only to individuals but also to nations? What is the inheritance of Christian civilization in this nation? What are we losing when we neglect it? What will it take to reclaim it? Aaron and Nathan discuss what's at stake and what it will mean to reach British patriots with the Gospel today.

06-12
58:02

Farewell Tom: Men Online, Men at Home, Men at Church

Over the last half-decade, many Christian men have become more frustrated with the compromises in their churches, the inadequate theology they’ve inherited, and the general decay of their society. As such, many have taken the “red pill” to disbelieve much of what they’ve been told was true, opening the window to previously “forbidden” convictions in numerous fields. What are the dangers with this high-speed radicalisation of opinions? How should Christians think about online “anons”? Are they wasting their time or are they fighting the good fight and protecting their family? For what reasons should a man lead his family out of (or into) a particular church? Are there ways that churches can counteract a father’s role in leading his family? How can men live lives of conviction which lead to long-lasting fruit in their churches and families? In this special episode of That Good Fight, Aaron speaks with Tom Chaldecott for his final ever episode before he moves away. They talk a bit about Tom’s own journey, why he’s leaving the podcast, and whether or not he may now be “redpilling” on redpilling!

04-05
01:28:04

Interview with Calvin Robinson - Troublemaking, Heretics, and Ecumenism

In another special episode, Aaron speaks with the controversial Fr. Calvin Robinson. They talk about Robinson's journey through different branches of the church, including his time swimming against the tide even at GB News, his move from the Church of England to Old Catholicism, and the effects of his very public profile on his pastoral ministry. Aaron and Robinson also talk about the challenges of pastors speaking into political issues, the difference between good and bad troublemaking, their respective disagreements on whether John Calvin was a heretic[!], and what a new form of missional "ecumenism" might look like among conservative Christians across different traditions.   Fr Calvin Robinson | Substack That Good Fight | Aaron Edwards | Substack      

03-18
01:13:09

Interview with Joel Webbon - Compromise, Controversy, and Honouring Our Fathers

In this special episode of That Good Fight, Aaron talks with controversial US pastor, Joel Webbon. They discuss Joel’s church journey from Vineyard to Acts 29 to his current church, the compromises he observed within mainstream evangelicalism, his shift towards cessationism and patriarchy, and the various controversies in which he has been involved more recently, including various reactions to his views on Judaism, Islam, and the older generations who have gone before him, and what keeps him rooted amidst the storms. They also discuss his upcoming conference, “Christ is King: How to Defeat Trashworld” on the importance of holding theological positions which can speak into a wide range of socio-political issues.RESOURCES: That Good Fight | Aaron Edwards | Substack Right Response Conference | Christ Is King: How To Defeat Trash World Antisemitism, The Antioch Declaration, & Ogden - YouTube Men on the Right, the Nazis, and the Antioch Declaration - That Good Fight: A Reformation for Gentlemen | Podcast on Spotify Theology Applied Podcast - Apple Podcasts  

03-06
01:22:18

Why Are British Evangelicals So Anti-Right Wing?

The automatic socio-political posture of British evangelicals within the last several decades has been to drift further and further Left. There is often very little awareness that their political assumptions are out of sync with many Christians before their time. The default position of many leaders is often to reject any views, practices, or people who have been deemed “too Right Wing”, even discouraging other Christians from trying to reach them. Why is the Church often far more fearful of the Far Right than the Far Left? Are their concerns about the dangers of the new Right valid? As western culture potentially moves further Right in coming years, what role might Christians play in shaping the new cultural landscape? https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/on-refusing-to-reach-the-right

02-21
01:06:03

On Presidents, Kings, and Cultures

What kind of leadership changes cultures for good? President Trump's first week in office included all sorts of executive orders which go against the grain of the cultural tide of previous decades. To many observers, much of this seems like the kind of common sense decision-making we've not seen in some time. Yet for others (including many Christians on our side of the pond) such actions only further fuel the fires of malice against the likes of Trump. Why is this? Is the modern Christian aversion to strong, masculine leadership a good thing or does it show the way we've been unduly influenced by the principles and stories of the secular, liberal, feminist paradigm over decades? What is the root of the loss of honour and risk in modern leadership? How might the recent "vibe shift" towards conservative principles in the US affect the culture (and the Church) here in the UK?

02-05
01:23:28

Christmas and Christendom

Why is Christmas still the high point of the secular calendar year? Why does it remain so embedded within the cultural imagination? Perhaps because Christmas is the clearest public manifestation of "Christendom" that there ever was.   What is at stake when the Christianity of Christmas is gradually minimised? Is it something worth fighting for? With secularism and Islam encroaching in the West today, seemingly innocuous Christmas traditions may matter more than ever. The Church of England often squanders its unique opportunity to uphold this Christendom heritage in/around Christmas. What can good Christian gentlemen do to take back "Xmas" for Christ and proclaim his lordship in and through it?   Join Aaron, Nathan, and Tom for a special festive episode of That Good Fight, where we talk about everything from carols, lights, sermons, Saracens' heads, Dickens, Scrooge, Kierkegaard, Prince Albert, Luther, Handel, all the way to Nathan's curious model Christmas village. God rest ye merry, gentlemen!

12-20
01:28:07

Handel’s Messiah and the Reformation of Music

One of the paradoxes of evangelical history is the tension between cultural excellence and religious piety. We have often been suspicious of aesthetic excellence, opting instead for simplicity and heart-level devotional experience. Why does Scripture instruct us to sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs? Does God care about how melodic the music is, or are such concerns an inevitable heart distraction from true worship? In this episode, Aaron sits down with special guest, Chris Horn, a trained chorister, to discuss music, worship, and the timeless brilliance of Handel’s Messiah, composed at the same time as the Great Awakening. What did John Wesley & co make of it? Are the concerns of evangelical heart religion divorced from a piece of music as complex as Handel’s? How can evangelical churches begin to take musical aesthetics seriously again without succumbing to the aesthetic idolatry often found in the secularised choral tradition? How might musical excellence help the Church shape culture again?

12-05
49:23

Men on the Right, the Nazis, and the Antioch Declaration

For decades, western Christians have sought to build bridges to the socio-political Left. They have sought to understand where such people are coming from and to “engage” with them, even where their beliefs have been sub-Christian. Yet this approach is not applied to men on the socio-political Right. Is this because they fear association with social deplorables? How should Christians reach men on the right today? What are the dangers? What are the consequences of shutting out the young men of the Right, and what is at stake if we do? In this follow-up episode to their previous discussion, Aaron, Nathan, and Tom talk through the implications of the socio-political Right in the UK, the postwar consensus, the ongoing shadow of fascism in western culture, and the ongoing feuds these issues are causing within the new Reformed Right, encompassed by the recent “Antioch Declaration”.

11-28
01:40:50

On Trump, Natsies, and the Men of the Right

Donald Trump winning the American presidential election for a second time appears to be yet another pivotal moment in western civilisation today. How should Christians interpret it? How have evangelicals changed their views of Trump over the last decade, and why are British people often so repulsed by him? What do the reactions to Trump tell us about the extent to which people are fed up of Leftist elitism within the culture? If one of the keys to Trump’s success was reaching disenfranchised men, what might it look like for the Church to do this? Why have evangelical churches been so reticent to build bridges with men on the Right? What challenges await those who dare to try? How does the Second World War continue to shape British identity and western society today? What are the effects of perpetually demonising the Nazis? And what might Jesus Christ have to do with any of it? Join Aaron Edwards, Nathan Paylor, and Tom Chaldecott on our much-awaited next episode of That Good Fight: A Reformation For Gentlemen...

11-09
01:51:13

What forms of worship form what kinds of Christian?

How does the way our churches run their meetings disciple us over time? Are there some styles or forms of a worship service which produce certain effects over time? Why, for example, is choral evensong so beautiful and yet (in the UK at least) often populated by so few faith-filled people, and led by so many faithless people? Is band-led singing a "better" form than high Church liturgy? What do you lose (or gain?) when you don't allow for congregational spontaneity within church services? And how do the answers to these questions affect what it means to be Christendomian and/or reformational today? Join Aaron, Nathan, and Tom as they discuss why all this matters more than many have yet realised.

09-09
01:00:15

Why Multiculturalism is a Very Bad Idea

In this episode we talk about the impact of multiculturalism on British (and western) culture; the rise of globalism; The Strange Death of Europe, and the mission of the Church. Too few Christians today are aware of the societal disruption caused when the liberal ideology of multiculturalism is imposed on a culture with the assumption that contradictory worldviews can harmonise (whilst eroding the dominant culture) without significant unrest. Instead, Christians often assume that multiculturalism is not a secular idea but a fruit of the Gospel bringing different people together. Is thinking about such wider civilizational issues a distraction from the Church's mission? Are Christians allowed to challenge multiculturalism and immigration, or are they too worried about being called "Far-Right" by the political elites for doing so? What if multiculturalism leads (as many predict) to Islam becoming the dominant culture and religion in places like Britain? Is it possible for Christians to love their neighbour and not care about the disintegration of western culture? Join Aaron, Tom, and Nathan as they discuss all this and more! **If you're enjoying That Good Fight podcast, please subscribe to our Youtube channel, like our posts, and leave us a review on your podcatcher of choice** Resources: - Aaron Edwards, 'Multiculturalism and Rootlessness' (2024) https://thatgoodfight.substack.com/p/the-rioting-of-the-rootless - Tim Dieppe, 'What's Wrong with Multiculturalism?' (2018) https://christianconcern.com/resource/whats-wrong-with-multiculturalism/ - Douglas Murray, The Strange Death of Europe (2017) - T. S. Eliot, Christianity and Culture (1948)

08-23
01:00:23

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