That Gray Area

As we say goodbye to the craziness that was 2020, Vanessa and Erinn want to take a few minutes to reflect and reset.They talk about what they've learned in 2020 - and what lessons they hope to take with them into the new year.Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's REALLY fun!However you get there - let's join each other in That Gray Area!

12-31

17:33

Does your sense of self worth and a certain number on the scale go hand in hand? Do you "have" to fit into a certain size to feel good in life? If this sounds familiar, you, like many people, are caught up in the "Diet Culture" mindset. Diet culture is a belief system that values weight, shape, and size over physical, emotional and spiritual well-being.Erinn and Vanessa have both experienced this kind of thinking throughout their lives and on this episode they are taking a deep di...

12-27

43:07

Vanessa and Erinn break down the highs, the lows, the wins and the losses of online dating over 45. Filled with good advice, a cautionary tale or two, and whole lotta humor, they dive right in on what to expect in this brave new world of dating. Weather you're thinking of dipping a toe in the dating pool or have mastered the skills of the perfect online profile this episode will either encourage you to "swipe right" on love or make you run to the arms of your partner (or your dog), grateful y...

12-11

38:15

Double Standards can take on many forms, but today Vanessa and Erinn are talking about beauty double standards. Why are men silver foxes but many women dye their locks 'till they drop? What about shaving, makeup, body ideals are more!?Which aspects of a human beings standards of beauty are hardwired into their DNA and which are a product of conditioning? Let's get the conversation started and see why what's good for the goose ain't always good for the gander! Join them on Instagram @tha...

11-30

40:53

It's good to be proud of ourselves - but when does pride cross the line into bragging, and is that line different for men and women? Erinn and Vanessa are questioning why so many women accept self promotion in men as "confidence" but often see it in themselves as "vanity."Science backs this up - but maybe it's time to question that and flip the script! Maybe it's time to Toot Your Horn (beep! beep!) and not feel weird about it. Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join t...

11-16

41:23

We've all experienced hurt at the hands of another, be it a lover, a friend, or even a family member. However, not all of us are able to forgive the person who hurt us, and some of us forgive too easily. In this heartfelt episode Erinn and Vanessa discuss the why's and how's of forgiving (or choosing not to) and share their own personal stories of learning to forgive the biggest hurts in their lives.Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, P...

11-01

59:45

If you have a body - and we know you do - you've probably felt that it's been subject to comment or scrutiny at some point in your life. On this episode Vanessa and Erinn launch their series on shaming, with a look at how society at large and we ourselves shame peoples bodies. Is fat shaming one of the last socially acceptable forms of discrimination? Why are women's bodies up for public discussion? Why do we need to create one narrow standard of beauty that the ...

10-19

39:29

Erinn and Vanessa discuss their parenting styles which although different, both resulted in happy, loving, funny, bright, well adjusted young adults. They talk about the tips and tricks they've learned over the years that really worked to foster healthy self-esteem and how that has developed into deep meaningful relationships with their kids as they've grown older. After all, who wants to hear about all the ways they screwed up? Where's the fun in that? ;) Besides, "momming" is hard - w...

10-14

46:22

In this episode Erinn and Vanessa attempt to define what it means to Age Gracefully in today's society, and how that can mean something different for every one. Botox? Fillers? Hair dye and makeup, or even surgery? Or...Screw it all and embrace the low-maintenance joys of gray hair and wrinkles! Perhaps the answer, as always, lies somewhere in That Gray Area.Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And i...

10-04

42:24

Vanessa and Erinn a getting real about sex. How it changes as we age, how our ideas of sexuality are instilled in us at a young age and how we can learn to harness our sexual power and create healthy, lasting sexual relationships that stand the test of time. Let's Talk About Sex Baby! This is the first part in a series - so stayed tuned for more in the future! Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's actually REALLY f...

09-27

41:37

In That Gray Area's first "FlashCast" Vanessa and Erinn honor the life and accomplishments of their favorite Supreme Court Justice and feminist hero Ruth Bader Ginsburg. In this brief but topical episode they discuss RBG's legacy as the preeminent champion of gender equality and justice for all. Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, pinky swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And if you prefer *watching* them talk about all the wonderful things...

09-22

12:41

Erinn discusses her harrowing and hilarious menopause journey (yep, she had *almost* every symptom imaginable). They cover the highs and the lows of "the change" and what lead Erinn to seek out hormone replacement therapy (HRT), while Vanessa quakes in fear at the thought of the journey that lies ahead. Join them on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, Pinky swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And if you prefer *watching* them talk about all the wo...

09-20

48:42

Vanessa and Erinn get down and dirty about Self-love and what they are doing to overcome impediments that stand in the way of embracing and appreciating who they are, while still working to improve and grow.Join us on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, We swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And if you prefer *watching* us talk about all things wonderful about mid-life you can watch us on YouTube Here

09-13

39:43

Erinn and Vanessa give you a little backstory on who they are and why they want to change the narrative on women and aging.Join us on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, We swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And if you prefer *watching* us talk about all things wonderful about mid-life you can watch us on YouTube HereAdd a TranscriptGet episode better indexed by search engines.Add Chapter MarkersListeners can tap through & see what’s coming up.Crea...

Erinn and Vanessa talk about sex, relationships and aging. Erinn has been with her husband for 17 years and Vanessa is newly single after a 20 year marriage. They discuss the pros and cons of staying or going, sex in new and long term relationships, and "keepin' it spicy" as we age.Join us on Instagram @that.gray.area to join the discussion on all things women and aging, We swear, it's actually REALLY fun!And if you prefer *watching* us talk about all things wonderful about mid-life you can w...