That UFO Podcast

Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode, Andy interviews Steve Bassett, Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, to discuss breaking news with the witness list finally available. UAP Hearing: Witness List & Initial Reactions Venue Significance: Capitol Visitor Center Who Are the Witnesses? George Knapp’s Role & Testimony Firsthand vs. Secondhand Testimony The Truth Embargo: History & Impact The UAP Disclosure Act & Political Context Media, Social Media, and Public Perception The Role of Activism & Legacy Global Disclosure: International Perspectives Check out Steve's work: https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

**Part 2 of 2** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024). In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs With major UFO hearings set for September 9th, 2025 in the US — where military whistleblowers are expected to come forward with their experiences — now’s the perfect time to revisit the reactions to the first historic hearings (2022–2024). In this 2-part series, I’m joined by guests including Jeremy Corbell, Alex Dietrich, Tim McMillan, Dan Zetterstrom, Graeme Rendall, and Klaus, sharing their insights and reactions to these landmark events. Stay tuned for upcoming episodes this month previewing the hearings, reporting on the testimony, and breaking down the fallout. 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs Signed Books: https://www.forumbooksshop.com/product/atlas-of-unidentified-flying-objects-and-unidentified-anomalous-phenomena-preorder-signed-dedicated-andy-mcgrillen-9781836006022/12753?cp=true&sa=false&sbp=false&q=false&category_id=36 A packed UFO news update: UAP hearing preview, Matthew Brown’s Immaculate Constellation, Skywatcher developments, the Tic-Tac manual leak, credibility questions, and more. UAP hearing preview (September 9th) Matthew Brown, Immaculate Constellation Skywatcher developments The 'Tic-Tac manual' leak Credibility questions across the UFO field And much more... Stay tuned for insights, listener questions, and updates from across the UFO world. Matthew Brown Substack - https://open.substack.com/pub/sunofabramelin/p/my-journey-to-become-a-ufo-whistleblower?r=tiifj&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web&showWelcomeOnShare=false Skywatcher: https://x.com/SkywatcherHQ/status/1957534562957029440 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: https://youtube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: https://ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

**Part 2 of 2** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs We continue our discussion into your listener questions as Pavel, from the Psicoactivo podcast is with me to answer your questions. Civilian Researchers and Technology The Role of the Catholic Church and Secretive Organizations Fear Mongering and Scientific Investigations Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

With another set of UFO hearings on the horizon for early September, there are a lot of moving parts as first hand witnesses are said to be ready to testify , Skywatcher goes through some potentially major changes & members of Congress argue online with big UFO names. To discuss this and a whole lot more I am enjoyed by Pavel Ibarra, from the Psicoactivo Podcast Current State of UFO Hearings Firsthand Witnesses and Their Impact Potential Witnesses and Their Credibility Skywatcher and Government Involvement New Whistleblower and His Claims Psicoactivo: https://www.youtube.com/@psicoactivopodcast 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

Pre-Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode Will Brown continues to discuss the Nazca mummies and answer your questions! Listener questions and final reflections Questions of authenticity, transparency, and peer review Ancient civilizations, elongated skulls, and cultural practices UFO sightings, artifacts, and potential hoaxes Challenges in academic and online discourse Will's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@incredhistory 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

(Part 1 of 2) Pre-Order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this episode I take another look at the ongoing Nazca Mummies saga with researcher, author, and filmmaker Will Brown. Will shares his firsthand experiences and insights on the controversial Nazca mummies, weaving together tales of elongated skulls, grave robbers, and potential ancient rituals. But, is there a Non-Human explanation? Meet researcher and filmmaker Will Brown The Nazca Mummies: discovery, examination, and controversies Scientific analysis, anomalies, and red flags Historical context, petroglyphs, and the Nazca Lines David Grusch’s influence and credibility in the UFO conversation Political turmoil, speculation, and community debates Scientific investigations and future prospects Will's channel: https://www.youtube.com/@incredhistory 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

*Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs * In this episode, Andy discusses the latest UFO stories including comments from Representative Anna Paulina Luna on the Joe Rogan Podcast, intriguing online exchanges between Luna and Lue Elizondo, and the hot topic of a potential alien object nearing Earth. Also included are updates on Ross Coulthart leaving 'Need to Know', the relevance of the Nazca mummies, and listener questions.  Luna on Joe Rogan Key Moments and Claims from the Interview Listener Reactions and Comments to appearance Elizondo and Luna online Exchange Ross Coulthart's Departure from 'Need to Know' Avi Loeb and the Interstellar Object Listener Questions and UFO Discussions Final Thoughts and Announcements 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK

** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon. Skywatcher and UFO Phenomenon The Impact of Non-Human Intelligence Disclosure The Role of Governments in Disclosure Historical Analogies and Secrecy Pilot Reports and UAP Stigma The State of UAP Journalism Facing Ontological Shock Hypotheses on the Phenomenon and the Universe Pyramid Discoveries and Advanced Technologies Final Thoughts https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisLehtoF16 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Retired F-16 pilot Chris Lehto returns to discuss the state of UFO disclosure, the role of whistleblowers, and the growing frustration within the UFO community. We explore the impact of Cmdr. Fravor’s testimony, the decentralization of UFO research, media narratives, and how Chris’s military background shapes his view of the phenomenon. Why disclosure feels stuck — and who might be stalling it Chris Lehto's take on Cmdr. Fravor's testimony The mental toll of following the UFO topic closely Are whistleblowers being silenced or ignored? What decentralised UFO research gets right — and wrong How media narratives shape public perception of the phenomenon Is the stigma around pilots reporting UAPs finally shifting? What disclosure could actually look like — and what it might mean Chris’s thoughts on ancient tech, pyramids, and the universe itself https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisLehtoF16 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, returning guest Karen Alexander, a Crop Circle researcher of over 30 years joins me to look at this years new Circles & get into a bit of the history of the subject: Karen Alexander’s Background in Crop Circles What Are Crop Circles Really? Scientific Investigations & Surprising Findings Are Crop Circles a Message or a Mystery? Guidelines for Visiting Crop Circles Can AI Decode Crop Circle Patterns? Doug & Dave: Debunkers or Distraction? Crop Circles, Geometry & Human Consciousness The Truth Behind the Crabwood Alien Circle Are Crop Circles Vanishing — and Why? Links in show: TemporaryTemples.co.uk https://temporarytemples.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/11/Guide-To-Visiting-Crop-Circles.pdf https://www.cropcirclecenter.com/ https://www.ukcropcircles.co.uk/ 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher. Whistleblowers and Public Disclosure Managing UFO Information Like a PR Campaign David Grusch's Impact and Media Coverage Challenges and Dangers for Whistleblowers Citizen Disclosure and Skywatcher's Role Dr. Beatriz Villaroel and Transient Objects Listener Questions: Craft, Abilities, and Ethics Personal Experiences and Family Impact Ethical Conflicts and Skywatcher's Mission https://x.com/jdhodgkins 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order my new book: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** In this episode, I sit down with James Hodgkins, one of Skywatchers' psionic assets. We dive deep into the topics of consciousness, psionic phenomena, UFOs, and much more. James shares his personal experiences and thoughts on these subjects as well as his involvement with Sky Watcher. 👇 Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction 01:00:00 Welcome and Guest Introduction 01:10 Early Psi Experiences & Family UFO Encounters 03:10 Major Contact at 19 & Joining Skywatcher 06:40 Consciousness, Folklore & the Phenomena 15:09 Skywatcher's Journey, Challenges & Transparency 36:47 Psionic Abilities, Inner Voices & Daily Life 48:00 The Nature of UAPs: Craft, Orbs & Thought Forms 01:05:33 Intent, Psychic Phenomena & Manifestation End of Part 1 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening, Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

🎙️ Pre-order Andy’s new book Atlas of UFOs now: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs In this fascinating deep dive, I’m joined by Ivan Hannel — best known as the lawyer representing Luis “Lue” Elizondo, former head of AATIP — for a nearly two-hour conversation that explores the legal, political, and human sides of UFO disclosure. We cover everything from the New York Times article that changed the game, to Ivan’s professional relationship with Elizondo, legal insights into congressional briefings, government secrecy, and… a tease of a potential new whistleblower coming forward. Ivan's Journey: From Law to UFOs Meeting Lue Elizondo The Controversial Congressional Briefing Mistakes in public Suspicion Around UAP Disclosure Act Concerns Over Controlled Disclosure Legal Perspectives on UFO Evidence Government Accountability and Ufology 🔥 Support the show & get bonus content: 🛸 YouTube Memberships: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHw9Lru3EcpRQyM7AI5TlmA/join 🛸 Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 🛸 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/that-ufo-podcast/id1511121397 🛸 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7wnXUAQ3vwdsX1BoyaEvjZ 🛸 Buy Me a Coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/ThatUFOPodcast 📲 Connect with the show: Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, Instagram & YouTube: That UFO Podcast YouTube: YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam Official Website: ThatUFOPodcast.com 👍 Don’t forget to subscribe, like & leave a review — it really helps! Thanks for listening,  Andy 🎵 Music Credits: "Girl with the Saucer Eyes" – Adam Goldsack → http://bitly.ws/kvIK "Goblin Problems" – Sean Cahill → http://bitly.ws/kvIL

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Another busy week in UFO world, another UFO news round up with a few really interesting moments from Weaponized with Corbell & Knapp, Diana Pasulka smashes an interview out the park &. new evidence coming soon? Corbell drops locations of UFO interest! Dustin Slaughter bringing new evidence forward Diana Pasulka interview with NYT AARO Tim Phillips brought 'Skeptics' into be briefed New Under Sec Air Force UFO experiences Upcoming guests Tim Phillips - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsKAX6IFORU Weaponized - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOzth5nQorw Pasulka - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7n4nctI60c Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

** Pre-order Atlas of UFOs: https://geni.us/AtlasOfUFOs ** Carrying on the Breakdown, Dan stayed on with me to answer your questions on some of the news happening, including: New 'Buga'/'Yumbo' Sphere Controversy Shades of Disclosure Community Dynamics and Disinformation Tic-Tac UFOs and Breakaway Civilizations Human Technology vs. Alien Craft Consciousness and Reality Disclosure and Government Secrecy Final Thoughts Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

There is so much going on in the UFO/UAP world right now. I'm joined by Dan to break down a whole load of news, including: Delay to hearings Potential witnesses for upcoming hearings Garry Nolan's insights on UFOs and scientific skepticism Electromagnetic signals and UAPs Historical context and literature DMT research and other dimensions Tic-Tac UFOs and breakaway civilizations Disclosure and government secrecy Links mentioned on the show: 📝 UAP Petition: https://uapda.org/petition 🎥 James Fox docs: YouTube link 🎙️ Nolan on Peterson: YouTube link 🛸 MUFON Symposium: https://mufonsymposium.com/ Get in touch with the show: 📬 https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact 🐦 X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM 📺 YouTube: https://YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast 📘 Facebook, 📸 Instagram: That UFO Podcast 📧 Email: UFOUAPAM@gmail.com 🎙️ All podcast links: https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

Here is your latest news round-up from the last few days in the world of UFOs: Ross Coulthart clarifies comments Hearings delayed until September Pilots of 'crash retrieval vehicles' appearing? NewsNation recap Multiple reports drop on UFO sightings NewsNation recap: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z4a_GK-dkE Canadian report: https://science.gc.ca/site/science/en/office-chief-science-advisor/sky-canada-project/management-public-reporting-unidentified-aerial-phenomena-canada#appendix-b NUFORC report: https://www.newsnationnow.com/space/ufo/2000-ufo-sightings-first-half-2025/ Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: That UFO Podcast YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All podcast & associated links: ⁠⁠https://linktr.ee/ufouapam https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like, and leave a review of the show. Enjoy, folks! – Andy

We continue to look at the news stories that have dominated the headlines in recent weeks but also the first half of 2025, including: Age of Disclosure: Missed Opportunities? Skywatcher: Promises and Skepticism Whistleblowers and Public Perception AARO Leadership and Future Observatory's Sky Scans UFO Data and Public Perception UK UAP Hearings and Legislation Closing Thoughts Check out Dan's work: https://linktr.ee/thezignal Get in touch with the show: https://www.thatufopodcast.com/contact X/Twitter: @UFOUAPAM Facebook, YouTube & Instagram: "That UFO Podcast" YouTube: ⁠⁠YouTube.com/c/ThatUFOPodcast⁠⁠ Email: ⁠⁠UFOUAPAM@gmail.com All podcast links & associated links: ⁠⁠Linktr.ee/ufouapam⁠ https://www.thatufopodcast.com/ Don't forget to subscribe, like and leave a review of the show Enjoy folks, Andy