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The other side is dangerously wrong. They think you are too. But for democracy to work, we need to hear each other out. Each week New York Times Opinion columnists David Leonhardt, Michelle Goldberg and Ross Douthat explain the arguments from across the political spectrum. Their candid debates help you form your own opinion of the latest news, and learn how the other half thinks. Find the best ways to persuade in the modern search for common ground.

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Why are Michael Bloomberg and Deval Patrick flirting with jumping into the 2020 presidential primary this late in the game? The columnists debate what the pair’s maneuvers say about the state of the race and whether either stands a chance of becoming the Democratic nominee. Then, the anonymous author of a controversial Times op-ed is out with a new book about the resistance inside the Trump administration. The columnists discuss whether that resistance has been effective in constraining the president. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Is Mayor Pete the Answer?

Is Mayor Pete the Answer?

2019-11-0700:30:305

Is Pete Buttigieg the best Democratic candidate to take on Trump? The columnists size up the South Bend mayor’s rise in Iowa and a new Times poll terrifying those who fear Trump’s re-election. Then: California is beset by catastrophic wildfires, growing income inequality and a decrease in overall livability. Are the state’s woes a leading indicator of America’s bleak future? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Should Facebook be more strict when it comes to fact-checking political ads? The columnists debate growing concern over the social media giant’s role in American politics. Then, the writer Tara Isabella Burton joins Ross and Michelle for a Halloween-inspired discussion of astrology, witchcraft, the decline of religious observance and American millennials’ growing interest in the occult. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
How to Win Impeachment

How to Win Impeachment

2019-10-2400:33:269

Impeachment seems destined to end with President Trump’s acquittal in the Republican-controlled Senate. But is there anything Democrats can do to change that outcome? The columnists debate the Democrats’ impeachment strategy so far. Then, they discuss the increasing rise of deaths from drug overdoses, alcohol and suicide. What’s driving these so-called “deaths of despair,” and what — if anything — can be done about them? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Under attack from Democratic rivals, can Elizabeth Warren hold on to her new front-runner status in the 2020 presidential primary? The columnists discuss the fallout from the fourth primary debate, where all the attention was on the senator from Massachusetts, and where the race could go from here. Then, “The Argument” celebrates its first birthday! After a full year of disagreeing with each other weekly, the columnists reflect on moments in their careers where their own minds changed. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Is the threat of impeachment making President Trump more erratic — and more dangerous? Jamelle Bouie joins Ross Douthat and David Leonhardt to discuss Trump’s decision to withdraw American troops from Syria and his defiance in the face of Democrats’ impeachment inquiry. Then, with the conservative-leaning Supreme Court back in session and a slew of big cases on the docket, should Democrats answer Republicans’ constitutional hardball with court packing? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
As evidence mounts that Donald Trump abused the power of the presidency, could members of his own party start to turn against him? The columnists debate Republicans’ response to the impeachment inquiry, Trump’s proliferating scandals and Attorney General William Barr’s efforts to undermine the Mueller report findings. Then, whose armrest is it anyway? The columnists debate airplane etiquette. Warning: Sexual violence is briefly mentioned in the final segment of this episode. For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Get Ready for Impeachment

Get Ready for Impeachment

2019-09-2600:27:116

Is the impeachment of Donald Trump finally just a matter of time? The columnists discuss how the president’s attempt to pressure a foreign government to undermine a political rival quickly turned a progressive pipe dream into an inquiry backed by most House Democrats. Then, the other 2020 primary: three eclectic Republicans running to unseat the incumbent president of their own party. What do their quixotic campaigns say about the state — and the future — of the G.O.P.? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Is Joe Biden’s shakiness on the stump a sign that he’s just too old to run for president? Or is it just proof that some of his critics are ageist? The columnists debate the state of Biden’s 2020 campaign. Then, has “cancel culture” run amok? Or is it a deserved consequence for conduct society shouldn’t tolerate? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
Can Republicans Escape Racism?

Can Republicans Escape Racism?

2019-09-1200:32:2510

Is the Democratic Party prematurely winnowing its crop of presidential candidates? The columnists discuss the narrowing 2020 field, and whether the D.N.C.'s arbitrary criteria is stripping ideological diversity from the Democratic debates. Then, can American conservatism exist free of racism? For background reading on this episode, visit nytimes.com/theargument
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Mariejose Monsalve

Nobody would have any issues with how much space people take in their airplane seats if the seats were made to accommodate average size people. It is about time we stop airlines from treating people like sardines.

Nov 10th
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Daniel Haug

As an Iowa caucusgoer vacationing in California, I thought this would be an interesting episode. Sadly, it is several levels removed from a useful perspective. Instead of opinions about Pete Buttigieg from people who have scrutinized his proposals and experience, it was mostly opinions about the prospects of the Democratic field based on national polls taken months before the first primary. Instead of opinions about the causes of and solutions to California's wildfires from people with some knowledge or first-hand experience, it was opinions about the plausibility of attacks on west coast liberals made by east coast conservatives.  The hosts (especially Michelle Goldberg) are sharper and more aware of their biases than the average pundit, but it's still a waste of your time.

Nov 10th
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Kevin Abraham

I love the way these comments turn into debates.

Nov 7th
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Nick Packer

Impressed with the recommendation! King of New York is a great movie!

Oct 10th
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Yamilka Vicente

Why is Andrew Yang not considered a serious candidate?

Sep 23rd
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Drago Bacinski

someone had to bring it up.

Sep 19th
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Philly Burbs

Beto, Beto, Beto, I don't get it. Some of the things he has said is way out there. no walls at all? Speaking Spanish in Texas is ok, not to a nationwide audience. His ideas make no sense. He would make an awful President. His ego is so big he'll stay in the race to the very end & lose his chance to be a Senator. we need to win the Senate.

Sep 5th
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Terri Hunt

Good interview. I thought Josh Hawley had some interesting perspectives, and the calm discussion t the panel after the interview in a world of shouting out our differences was refreshing. Thanks for a thoughtful discussion of a different perspective.

Aug 16th
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Mike

it's sad that this podcast is heavily leaning on the left. "Trump's racist, Trump's a bad president" And you call your podcast The Argument? LOL. You have no argument to support your claim, you just state what's on your mind, giving your own biased opinion without checking the facts. All you do is talking and spitting on Trump like all liberals. All the same, no individual thoughts. And when he is re-elected in 2020, you'll wonder: "what happened, maybe it was a mistake, let's recount the votes, let's claim Russia meddled into the elections, let's talk about impeachment for the next 4 years and doing nothing but blocking everything Trump does. Great job, guys, you should be ashamed of yourself. But you know what? Americans start to realize what's happening, that little game you're all playing. truth is you're gonna lose in 2020 and it will be your fault, nobody else's.

Aug 3rd
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Mariejose Monsalve

I am not convinced by the narrative and false premise of this show: that in American politics there is such thing as "the other half."

Jul 28th
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Christopher Donaghue

he expects to use the very loyal and radical minority to stay in power. He clearly knows he can't win reelection if he keeps up like this.

Jul 27th
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Tiferet

This episode did not do a good job at properly representing Yang. The interviewer seemed biased and close minded. I found that the Freakonomics podcast and The Ben Shapiro Show were much more informative and allowed Yang to properly represent his campaign.

Jul 16th
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Tiferet

10:07 - 10:18 😂

Jul 16th
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km

Yang gets it.

Jul 9th
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Jason Huntley

I already wasn't a fan of Michelle, but now that I know she doesn't know what corn hole is.... I hate her.

Jul 7th
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Barret Giehl

Sounds like the interviewers/hosts did fully understand Yang's policies at the end. His plan specifically talks a out how to pay for the Freedom Dividend but the hosts act like Yang hasn't fully thought through policies.

Jul 3rd
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Jason Huntley

This guy is just straight up dishonest.

Jul 2nd
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Jason Huntley

I love this show, but I have a question. Why does Ross (39) sound like he's arguing against a 13 year old, Michelle (44)? Ross's argument that Conservatives have given an inch and the Left took a mile concerning gay rights is spot on. I don't need my kids being taught something I believe to be immoral at the public library. I don't need the government setting itself up as a moral arbiter. Today it's men dressed as women reading children's literature, and Arthur watching two gay characters marry on PBS. Tomorrow it will be kindergarten teachers teaching kids that a penis could be a "female penis" and men can get pregnant. My tax dollars should not be used to fuel insanity. And people wonder why mental illness is so prevalent.

Jun 20th
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Jared Poulter

I think Ross should always be the interviewer for these presidential candidates on the show. While I think he pushed back too much at the end (it doesn't make sense to repeatedly ask the same question and you should just let the interviewee have the last word), the interviews without any pushback are kind if boring like the Buttigieg episode. Now, as far as Yang is concerned, I love that he recognizes the problems in the economy that got Trump elected and is creating solutions to the problems. He said something that you almost never hear the left say. He said, "Trump was right." And he was. Trump recognized a symptom of sickness in the economy. He provided the wrong diagnosis and treatment, however. Trump blamed factories and mines closing on immigrants and government regulations, but the real problem lies in the market shifting toward clean energy and automation. This is something that Yang recognizes and he is looking to tackle these problems in ways that nobody else is talking about, which is refreshing.

Jun 18th
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Matthew DeJonge

#YangGang

Jun 17th
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