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The Athletic’s flagship NFL podcast covers the league like only The Athletic can. Host Robert Mays and co-host Derrik Klassen dive into the biggest stories, break down the Xs and Os, tackle the ins and outs of roster building, follow the details of why we all love this sport, and have plenty of fun along the way, bringing the expertise necessary to cover the NFL at the highest level. Whether it’s happening on the field or behind the scenes, you’ll get an in-depth look at all things NFL on The Athletic Football Show, available wherever you get your podcasts.
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The second and third rounds of the 2025 NFL Draft are in the books, and the first half of our draft story is all but complete. Who were our favorite picks on day two? Where were the surprises? Which teams came away with the best hauls across the first three rounds? Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler answer those questions, and more, as they put a capstone on The Athletic Football Show's live coverage of the 2025 NFL Draft.
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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The first round of the 2025 NFL Draft is in the books. What were our favorite picks? What were the biggest surprises. Who do we feel different about because of his landing spot. Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen, Dane Brugler and Bruce Feldman answer those questions, and also take a look ahead to night two, on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Rundown
Favorite picks of the night
Biggest surprises
Biggest head-scratchers
Best fits
The guys you see differently because of where he landed
The best players remaining going into night two
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler and Bruce Feldman
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Friends, the 2025 NFL Draft has arrived. All our questions will finally be answered. But, for the time being, we still have questions! How many quarterbacks will go in the first round? Who, if anyone, will make a big move up the board? How will the receiver and corner positions shake out? Will any veteran players get traded? Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler ask the questions that still have them flummoxed on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Rundown
All things quarterback
Who makes the move for Ashton Jeanty?
Who's going to be the trade-up team?
How high do the toolsy pass rushers go?
Are both tight ends really gonna go that high?
How do the receivers shake out?
How does corner shake out?
Veteran player trades
Does the league buy these interior offensive linemen?
What do the 49ers want to be on defense?
Who's the back-half-of-the-first-round surprise pick?
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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A great comedy movie isn't going to win any Oscars, but it's a fun two hours at the movies. That's the offensive line class in the 2025 NFL Draft. It may not be stocked with potential future All-Pros, but it does have more than its fair share of players who project as quality starters. Dane Brugler and Brandon Thorn from the Trench Warfare Substack join Robert Mays to break down the class on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler and Brandon Thorn
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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We're back On the Clock on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Mike Renner from CBS Sports joins Robert Mays to wrap up the first round and make picks 26 through 32 in the 2025 NFL Draft. That covers first round picks for the Rams, Ravens, Lions, Commanders, Bills, Chiefs and Eagles. The Ravens go for traits at pass rusher! The Lions get some oomph in the middle of their defensive line! The Eagles replace Josh Sweat! Come and join the draft fun.
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Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Mike Renner
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen dig into the mailbag one more time before the 2025 NFL Draft on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Can one division support as much head coaching talent as the NFC North has? Should teams be wary about giving out top-of-the-market extensions to players at non-premium positions? Who were your favorite running backs to watch play? The guys answer those questions, and a whole lot more.
Rundown
NFC North loaded at head coach
What's the easiest position for a world-class athlete who has never seen football to play?
Giving top-of-the-market extensions to players at non-premium positions
Should we expect Jayden Daniels to regress along the same lines as CJ Stroud?
Teams that are good/bad at drafting
Use of the fifth-year option affecting draft decisions
Should teams consider division opponents in team-building process
Should teams think about second-year players who had huge rookie seasons?
What are the most fun "caution-to-the-wind" picks that could happen this year?
Who were your favorite running backs to watch play?
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Three receivers went in the top 10 of the 2024 NFL Draft. That isn't likely to be the case this year, but we could see 10 come off the board by the end of the second round. The tight end position might give us our highest-selected pass-catcher this year, with both Tyler Warren and Colston Loveland getting top-10 buzz. No matter what, the pass-catchers are going to give us plenty to talk about draft weekend. They also give Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler plenty to talk about on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
Host: Robert Mays
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Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Bucky Irving...125th overall in 2024. Nick Herbig...132nd overall in 2023. Kerby Joseph...97th overall in 2022. Teams can, and do, find themselves difference makers on the second and third day of the draft. Who might be those players this season? Dane Brugler and Daniel Jeremiah from NFL Network join Robert Mays to highlight the potential mid-round gems in the 2025 NFL Draft on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler and Daniel Jeremiah
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Producer: Michael Beller
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We're back On the Clock on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Trevor Sikkema from Pro Football Focus joins Robert Mays to make picks 19 through 25 in the 2025 NFL Draft. That brings us our first batch of last season's playoff teams, including the Buccaneers, Broncos, Steelers, Chargers, Packers, Vikings and Texans. The Buccaneers make a statement at EDGE! The Steelers and Chargers grab receivers! The Packers add a corner! Come and join the draft fun.
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Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Trevor Sikkema
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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One of the many things we love about the TAFS mailbag is that it reflects the conversations real football fans are having in the moment. As such, it should come as no surprise that this edition of the mailbag is heavy on draft questions. What are some plausible draft day surprises we could see this year? Why do certain players seem to have dramatic climbs or tumbles down draft boards in March and April? Should teams recalibrate how the think about premium positions in a draft like this one? Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen dig into those questions, and a whole lot more.
Rundown
How much do teams know about other teams draft boards?
Evaluating contact balance for college prospects
Favorite coordinator hires this cycle
Surprising draft day trades
How the Steelers have handled the QB position
Why do players rise or fall on draft boards
Draft day shockers
Premium position vs. premium talent
Which Georgia EDGE defender is the better bet?
Favorite and least favorite metrics
How many Hall of Famers were active in 2024?
Host: Robert Mays
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Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Dane Brugler has been telling us for months that this is a good draft to need defensive players. That's exemplified by a defensive line class that features 28 players inside the top 100 of The Beast. Dane and Fran Duffy from the ALLCITY Network join Robert Mays on this episode of The Athletic Football Show to break down the DL class in the 2025 NFL Draft.
Rundown
Abdul Carter
Mason Graham
Mykel Williams
Jalon Walker
Walter Nolen
Derrick Harmon
Shemar Stewart
Mike Green
James Pearce Jr.
Kenneth Grant
Landon Jackson
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With: Dane Brugler and Fran Duffy
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Everyone likes Travis Hunter and Abdul Carter. There's a widespread consensus that Cam Ward deserves to be the top quarterback on the board. After that, though, opinions vary more so than in most drafts in recent memory. Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler dig into the players driving that disagreement on this episode of The Athletic Football Show, breaking down the most polarizing players in the 2025 NFL Draft.
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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We're back On the Clock on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Ben Solak from ESPN joins Robert Mays to make picks 13 through 18 in the 2025 NFL Draft. That covers first-round picks for the Dolphins, Colts, Falcons, Cardinals, Bengals and Seahawks. The Dolphins and Bengals get some offensive line help! The Falcons take another swing at ending the John Abraham bit! The Seahawks bring in another receiver for Sam Darnold! Come and join the draft fun.
Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Ben Solak
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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The TAFS mailbag is once again chock full of great questions from all of you out there. This time around, the mail carrier brought us questions on head coach trades, GM job security, the Lions' approach to the regular season, the most fun trade-ups that could happen in this year's draft, and a whole lot more.
Host: Robert Mays
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You know Ashton Jeanty. You know Omarion Hampton. You know Kaleb Johnson and TreVeyon Henderson. And if you know all of them, chances are you know that this is the deepest running back draft class in years. Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler dig deep into that class on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Dane Brugler
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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The draft matters for all 32 teams in the NFL...but it matters for some teams more than others. Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen identify the teams with the most at stake in the 2025 NFL Draft on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
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Producer: Michael Beller
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We're back On the Clock on this episode of The Athletic Football Show. Danny Kelly from The Ringer joins Robert Mays to make picks seven through 12 in the 2025 NFL Draft. That covers first-round picks for the Jets, Panthers, Saints, Bears, 49ers and Cowboys. The Panthers and Niners make a deal! Ashton Jeanty comes off the board! The Saints have us confused! Again!! Come and join the draft fun.
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Danny Kelly
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Once again, the TAFS mailbag was jam-packed with great questions from all of you out there. On this edition of the mailbag, Robert Mays and Derrik Klassen tackled questions on what a draft day trade chart looks like in a "down" year, prioritizing pass-catchers or pass protection for an elite quarterback, the best way to rebuild a scuffling team, current players who would've thrived in an earlier era, and more.
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We've enjoyed two straight drafts with star-studded quarterback classes. This year's class...is not that. Still, it provides its fair share of intrigue. The Titans seem to have settled on Cam Ward as the top pick in the draft. Shedeur Sanders could go with the second pick, or in the second round. Jaxson Dart, Tyler Shough and Jalen Milroe all could find themselves in advantageous spots this summer. Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Dane Brugler dig deep into the 2025 quarterback class on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
The guys also discuss the Russell Wilson and Stefon Diggs signings, and how those moves affect the draft.
Rundown
Russell Wilson signs with the Giants
Stefon Diggs signs with the Patriots
Cam Ward
Shedeur Sanders
Jaxson Dart
Tyler Shough
Jalen Milroe
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
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Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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We're likely to see six or seven edge players selected in the first round of the 2025 NFL Draft. Some of them, like Abdul Carter, were wildly productive in college. Others, like Mykel Williams and Shemar Stewart, weren't. That reality naturally leads to this question...how much does college production matter for edge prospects when it comes to their effectiveness at the NFL level? Robert Mays, Derrik Klassen and Justis Mosqueda from Acme Packing Company dive deep into that question on this episode of The Athletic Football Show.
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Host: Robert Mays
Co-Host: Derrik Klassen
With: Justis Mosqueda
Executive Producer: Michael Beller
Producer: Michael Beller
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Always a great listen! The Athletic Football Show dives deep into the NFL with insightful analysis and great perspectives. Whether it’s game breakdowns or off-field stories, you never miss the mark. Keep it up! https://8171bispalertspk.com/
such great accompanying info to running or drving. love robert and Derrick's passion and insight. super detail, funny, nerdy, precise, don't talk down to audience. expect you to know something and be like them . wish I could get a gig with one of them from a UK perspective. jeep doing what you do!
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where's the NFC version?
never any talk about the undefeated team the Eagles. love your analysis, but I'd like hear it about the eagles a bit more please.
yay, so great to hear Lindsay back on 👍
As a Falcons lifer I absolutely believe that Matt Ryan will win a Super Bowl with Indianapolis. I think you may be slightly underestimating just how hungry Matt is. The guy should be a first ballot Hall of Famer and the only thing keeping him from that is a Super Bowl ring...or two. After being perennially underappreciated in Atlanta, Ryan has been given an opportunity to prove that he has always belonged in the same conversation as Rogers, Brees, Brady and other top tier QBs. For the first time in his career he has a fully competent coaching staff behind him and all the pieces he needs to put together a great run. I'll have a hard time forgiving the franchise for the way Matt exited Atlanta The courting of DeShaun Watson was yet another ridiculous chapter for an organization with a long history of them. I'm happy he found a great new home and I'll be rooting for him until the day he retires.
That was a fantastic 6 part series on Andrew Luck 👏
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Perfect blend of fun and serious. Best league-wide NFL podcast anywhere.
Fantastic podcast, listen to every show. Always interesting, always informative and I also learn a bit too. Robert Mays loves football even if the Chicago Bears do make him want to put his head in the oven.
love to have Robert Mays back hosting an NFL pod.