The Belgian Smaak Podcast

Breandán Kearney sits down with some of the most high-profile people in the world of Belgian beer to discuss beer styles, brands, and the stories behind the breweries and to find out what makes beer culture in Belgium so special.

EP054 | The Modern Beer Game

The Flemish city of Turnhout is the playing card capital of the world. Turnhout is to playing cards what Kobe is to Japanese Wagyu beef; what Parma is to Italian Prosciutto; what Fez is to leather. The biggest card-producing company in the world, Cartamundi, is headquartered in Turnhout. 1.3 million decks of cards are produced there every single day. If you have ever played poker, performed a magic trick with cards, traded Pokémon cards, or played Monopoly, Risk, Clue, or Catan, then you’ve touched something that comes from Turnhout. The beers of Brouwerij Het Nest of Turnhout are all branded according to a playing card theme. Their most famous beer is their Tripel—the Schuppenboer—Jack of Spades. They started out as a homebrewing collective in 2000 and then in 2015 set up their own brewery. This podcast is about how a regional brewery in Belgium goes about navigating the pitfalls of the modern beer game: Bart Cuypers of Het Nest and his colleagues would suffer legal headaches due to their playing card branding; there would be COVID closures and a war in Ukraine that would send brewery energy costs through the roof across Europe; export markets on which they relied would collapse like a house of cards; and Belgium’s attitude to alcohol—especially amongst its young—would shift more quickly than they could ever have imagined.  So—in the face of mounting industry challenges, how should a brewery play the modern beer game?  The owners of Brouwerij Het Nest of Turnhout—the world capital of playing cards—gambled on the brewery’s future with strategy, ambition, and a little bit of luck. Listen in to find out how.

07-17
01:28:56

EP053 | Mule Head

Joël Galy is the quietly punkish, Swedish-born but Belgian-raised brewer of Brasserie de la Mule. Brasserie de la Mule is a brewery and taproom-slash-music venue that’s housed in an abandoned tram shed in Brussels’ Schaerbeek neighbourhood. De la Mule specialises in German styles of beer. I sat down with Joël in his taproom for a chat about how he approaches German styles in Belgium, what he’s learned from parenting to make him a better leader in the brewery, how he landed jobs as a brewer at Brasserie de la Senne and Brasserie Cantillon before starting his own business, and why everyone’s got it wrong about Belgian Saison.   Sit back, listen, and enjoy our interview with Joël Galy of Brasserie de la Mule.

03-27
01:40:56

EP052 | How Westvleteren 12 Accidentally Became The Best Beer In The World

As we approach the twenty year anniversary of Westvleteren 12’s original crowning by RateBeer, Jonny Garrett examines how a strong dark ale produced by a tiny monastery brewery in North West Belgium became the world’s most sought-after beer

12-23
01:13:17

EP051 | Belgian Beer World

No other country in the world has a national beer experience centre costing €100 million and housed in one of the most iconic buildings in its capital. Today, we're talking to Krishan Maudgal of the Belgian Brewers Federation about Belgian Beer World.  

08-21
01:07:03

EP050 | Mariage Parfait and the Evolution of Lambic

Claire Bullen meets the Boons — Frank, Karel, and Jos — to find out how their Mariage Parfait Oude Geuze speaks to the legacy of Lambic. Breandán Kearney hosts.

05-06
01:11:36

EP049 | Blending Lambic at the Sollenberg Crossroads

Through his Lambic blendery Het Boerenerf, Senne Eylenbosch saved his father’s farm, discovered his own identity, and began the next chapter in his family’s storied Lambic heritage. In this discussion, Senne Eylenbosch and Breandán Kearney talk about the things Senne learned working at Brouwerij 3 Fonteinen, how he’s conflicted about his family’s brewing heritage, how he blends the way he does, how he feels about now being able to use his family name in his business, and where he sees his place in the Lambic ecosystem.

05-02
01:59:34

EP048 | Tingles in the Jungle

In 2020, three young Belgians started a brewery with an ambition to cohesively merge their widely diverging beer tastes—pastoral Belgian ales, traditional English styles, and mixed fermentation beers packed with fruit. They’d have to do it against a challenging backdrop: disinterest from Brussels drinkers in unfamiliar styles, rolling pandemic lock-downs, the fracturing of their original triumvirate, a global energy crisis, and an increasingly cut-throat beer market. In Belgian beer, it’s survival of the fittest: you live by the law of the jungle. In this episode, Breandán Kearney sits down with Félix Damien and Christophe Bravin of Brasserie La Jungle.

11-22
01:22:28

EP047 | The Belgian Coast

Belgium has purchase on a roughly 65 kilometre stretch of North Sea coast. With a cumulative six Michelin stars in restaurants in the region, the coast has a density of just over 1 Michelin-starred restaurant for every 10 kilometres.  There are breweries too—at least three, depending on your definition and geographical scope (Brouwerij St Idesbald, Jus de Mer, and Stadsbrouwerij Oostende ‘t Koelschip)—and many cafés, restaurants, and bistros with something to offer your non-Michelin guide reader. These businesses and the towns they occupy are all strung out alongside or straddling the metal tracks of Tram 0, the Kusttram, Belgium’s coastal tramline. 67 kilometres long and comprising 68 stops, the tram has been trundling leisurely between these pleasure centres for 137 years. It’s the longest single tram line in the world. Eoghan Walsh, beer writer and fellow Irishman in Belgium, took the Kusttram the length of the coast to explore its food and drink culture.   

09-20
01:35:41

EP046 | Belgian Beer Festivals

Belgium has a rich festival scene. Every single weekend in the year, you could choose between a multitude of music shows, food markets, neighbourhood parties, and cultural shows. Its beer festival circuit is equally rich. From village fairs to international events, Belgians celebrate beer at festivals like few other nations. In this podcast, we’re talking Belgian beer festivals with three guests who organise prominent, but wonderfully different beer festivals in Belgium: Stéfan Cauwenbergs of Billie’s Craft Beer Festival; Bart Vanneste of Bruges Beer Festival; and Jan Machiel van Bragt of the Kerstbierfestival. We talked about the diverse profiles of each of their festivals, how beer festivals in Belgium might be different than in other countries, the challenges and joys of running a festival in Belgium, and how they see the festival scene evolving in the coming years.

06-21
01:54:06

EP045 | The Lambic Roundtable

The Lambic Roundtable was an event during the Toer de Geuze 2022 tailor-made for broadcasting in beer bars all over the world, and as you’ll hear from the discussion, we took questions live from bars with strong reputations for Lambic in different countries. Sitting at the Lambic Roundtable with were Gert Christiaens, Frank Boon, Kloris Devillé, and Stu Stuart. During the evening’s conversation, we talked about the challenges of organising such an event after a COVID hiatus, the ways in which HORAL is changing as an organisation, how the Megablend was produced for the Toer, and why the internationalisation of Lambic is so important for its future. We also took questions from the bars and their patrons watching from around the world. 

05-24
01:32:12

EP044 | Jerry Franck, Director of Lambic Documentary, "Bottle Conditioned"

We sat down with Academy Award® nominated filmmaker Jerry Franck to find out about his Lambic documentary "Bottle Conditioned".

04-26
01:29:40

EP043 | Oud Bruin Roundtable

We sat down with Marc Coesens of Brouwerij Liefmans, Rudi Ghequire of Brouwerij Rodenbach, and Alex Lippens of Brouwerij 't Verzet to discuss Oud Bruin, Flanders Red, and Flemish sours.

02-22
01:45:17

EP042 | Rejecting Boundaries (De Dochter van de Korenaar)

The story of Baarle, Ronald Mengerink, and De Dochter van de Korenaar is one of defying categorisation and rejecting boundaries set for you.

12-29
01:15:44

EP041 | What's in a Name?

OMER Traditional Blond from Brouwerij Omer Vander Ghinste is a highly carbonated, fruity, and dry ale with a pleasant but subtle bitterness. But just how does it communicate the complex story of generational transition in Belgian family brewing?

12-05
01:14:49

EP040 | Bart Delvaux and Ine Van Der Stock of Brouwerij De Coureur

Bart Delvaux and Ine Van der Stock opened Brouwerij De Coureur in 2020, a small brewery and taproom in the Kessel-Lo neighbourhood of Leuven.

10-31
01:14:53

EP039 | Brussels Beer Cafés

The Brussels beer café is an institution that has enjoyed as much acclaim as it has suffered fatigue.  This podcast is a panel discussion recorded in a Brussels beer café in front of an intimate live audience. The central question we were trying to answer was whether the Brussels beer café is a doomed relic or a durable icon. 

09-22
01:15:35

EP038 | Who Owns Fries?

Who Owns Fries? Are they French or Belgian? Do those who first created a food own it? Or does it belong to those that perfected it? In this podcast, we go deep into fries: What are they? How does Belgium’s relationship with fries differ to other countries? And why do they claim cultural ownership of these elongated pieces of deep fried potatoes?

08-31
48:39

EP037 | Belgian Mayonnaise

Mayonnaise is known all around the world; a thick, creamy sauce used to dress sandwiches, burgers, and salads. But few nations have taken it to their hearts in the same way as the Belgians. The relationship between Belgians and their mayonnaise is tied up in their fanatical “frituur” culture and in a law which has made Belgian mayonnaise special. But in the face of complex commercial challenges and a generational change in eating habits, can the Belgians preserve their extraordinary mayonnaise heritage?

02-20
57:39

EP036 | Ford Lee Stuart III (a.k.a. Stu Stuart) of Belgian Beer Me! Tours

Ford Lee Stuart III, or Stu Stuart as he is better known, is the owner of a tour company called Belgian Beer Me! Tours which specialise in fun, smart, and affordable beer tours of Belgium from all around the world. Stu is also a keen student of history and has discovered on his tours that it’s impossible to separate the history of Belgium, and particularly stories of war, from the country’s world renown beer culture. Both are inextricably linked and each offers an insight into the other.  Sit back, listen, and enjoy Stu Stuart of Belgian Beer Me! Tours.

01-01
41:21

EP035 | A Year In Review 2021 (with Eoghan Walsh)

In this Year in Review podcast, I talked with Eoghan Walsh about developments in Trappist beer, the rise of the Belgian Blonde and Golden Strong Ales, toxic work environments in the beer industry, how exciting a time it is for spontaneous and mixed fermentation in Belgium, and who might be the Belgian breweries to watch in 2022. 

12-20
01:24:08

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