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Why is personal finance so complicated? Even worse, the Internet is full of personal finance “experts” providing short-sighted, error-prone, and outright bad financial advice.

Jesse Cramer has a knack for using everyday experiences to make personal finance accessible for the average investor. His extensive research coupled with skilled narrative makes personal finance actually enjoyable.

By day, Jesse works for a fiduciary wealth management firm in Rochester, NY. By night, he runs The Best Interest - nominated in 2022 for "Personal Finance Blog of the Year.”

The Best Interest simplifies personal finance and investing to make your life easier, smarter…and a little richer, too. Come invest in knowledge with The Best Interest.
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In episode 79 of The Best Interest Podcast, host Jesse Cramer discusses the intricate relationships between health, wealth, and time with guest Phil Pearlman. Jesse starts with his usual monologue, explaining and establishing that health, money, and time are all interchangeable resources that many people trade-off throughout their lives. Jesse and Phil then delve into how health decisions significantly impact financial standing and overall quality of life, emphasizing the importance of viewing health as an investment in one's future. Phil, transitioning from a finance profession to focusing on personal health, shares his insights on behavioral finance, the importance of making conscious decisions regarding health and finance, and the impact of societal trends on individual well-being. Additionally, Phil discusses his unique approach to personal health, advocating for self-experimentation and critical thinking in navigating health advice. The conversation also touches upon cultural aspects of addiction and the power of individual choice in improving one's health, wealth, and time. Finally, Phil shares information about his work at the Pearl Institute and his dedication to helping people make better health and life decisions.   Key Takeaways: How physical health is a critical aspect of financial health. Health will allow you to enjoy your wealth. Phil’s holistic approach to health and how it includes finances. Why you need to imagine yourself in the future. How to see your future self as a real person, and consider their needs. Why you should be a scientist and your most important subject! You don’t have to be a statistic.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://www.pearlinst.com/  🌐 Prime Cuts Newsletter: https://primecuts.substack.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-pearlman-1002183/  📚 Rebels with a Cause by Phil Pearlman: https://primecuts.substack.com/p/rebels-with-a-cause  📚 Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury: https://amzn.to/3xHyaSF 📚 Brave New World by Aldous Huxley: https://amzn.to/3U7W55j 📚 1984 by George Orwell: https://amzn.to/3U5e2Bu 🎥 The film Fahrenheit 451, on Vimeo  https://vimeo.com/433467090   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Jesse starts this episode with an engaging monologue: how exactly does The Best Interest generate revenue? Jesse answers this question and asks YOU for your help in ensuring The Best Interest continues as a terrific free financial resource.    And then Justin Peters joins for the second half of the episode. Justin hosts The Struggle is Real, a podcast about adulting through your twenties. He’s also a co-founder of SimplePod Studios, which produces The Best Interest Podcast. In this episode, Justin and Jesse discuss, compare, and contrast their top five “Golden Rules” of personal finance. If you’re looking for an insightful, fun, and fast-paced conversation, this is the episode for you.    Key Takeaways: How does The Best Interest make money? The intersection of Jesse’s professional life and The Best Interest Why you need to track your money! How gift cards trick you into spending more. The best investment is in yourself. Simple is better than complex (almost always). Why and how you should prepare for risk. Why you MUST automate your finances, as much as possible. Think long term, but don’t forget the present.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://simplepodstudios.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/justinleepeters/  🎙️ Podcast: https://www.tsirpodcast.com/  🧠 The RRTTLLU Framework: https://bestinterest.blog/rrttllu/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Peter Lazaroff is the host of The Long Term Investor podcast and serves as the Chief Investment Officer at PlanCorp, a registered investment advisory in St. Louis. On today’s show, Jesse and Peter talk about the cognitive challenge of investing at all-time highs. It’s normal to feel like a crash might be coming; but it always feels that way, and you shouldn’t be worried about it. If you’re a long-term stock market investor and want to think a little more rationally or learn, this is the episode for you!    Key Takeaways: Why you should expect corrections and bear markets,, but shouldn’t worry about them. Why the stock market keeps going up, regardless of the political party in power. Should you continue investing when the market is at an all-time high? Why you shouldn’t be worried about what’s happening in the short run.  How the evidence cuts both ways in investing, and how to simplify it. Why you should diversify into global stocks. How to prepare for a bear market.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://peterlazaroff.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/peterlazaroff/  🎙️ The Long Term Investor Podcast: https://peterlazaroff.com/podcast  📚 The Market Crash Is Coming! (…Eventually): https://bestinterest.blog/market-crash/  📚 “Boring” Money Topics That I Find Fun: https://bestinterest.blog/boring-money-topics-that-i-find-fun/  📚 Decades of Zero Return: https://bestinterest.blog/decades-of-zero-return/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Jared Dillian is a former Wall Street trader at Lehman Brothers, an author of 4 books, and daily writer a newsletter for financial professionals called The Daily Dirtnap. He’s sharp, witty, and brings great energy to today’s conversation. In this episode of The Best Interest Podcast, we learn about "The Allegory of the Sandwich" and how you can pay for the small stuff by thinking carefully about the big stuff! If you’re looking to hear unique takes on the FIRE movement and your daily latte, this is the episode for you!   Key Takeaways: How taxes can actually be interesting! The power of waiting (for decades) The foundational importance of cash flow Preparing for life via insurance How being smart about the big decisions will help you not sweat the small stuff. Why Jared doesn’t want to retire (ever). Why you shouldn’t make your own pizza. The Allegory of the Sandwich. Why the goal should be happiness, not a number. When is it worth it to make more money? How financial stress doesn’t necessarily depend on how much you make.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://www.jareddillianmoney.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jared-dillian-411aaa1b/  🎙️ BE SMART Podcast: https://www.jareddillianmoney.com/podcasts  📚 No Worries: How to live a stress-free financial life by Jared Dillian: https://amzn.to/4atCxiz 📚 The FIRE Movement by Jared Dillian: https://wggtb.substack.com/p/the-fire-movement 📚 “Boring” Money Topics That I Find Fun by Jesse Cramer: https://bestinterest.blog/boring-money-topics-that-i-find-fun/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Paula Pant writes, podcasts, and speaks on financial independence, money management, and financial literacy. As the host of the Afford Anything Podcast, Paula has racked up more than 30 million downloads, ranking the show among the Top 50 Business Podcasts on Apple Podcasts. In this episode we learn how Paula realized she could travel the world on a limited income and eventually go on to financial independence through Afford Anything. If you’re looking for some growth mindset inspiration that will help you broaden your perspective, this is the episode for you!   Key Takeaways: - How to move on (and grow) after financial mistakes. - Why we need reminders and safety measures. - How to afford anything with the power of priorities. - How Paula traveled the world and never got a job again. - What cap rate you should be looking for in a rental property. - Why you should start 10X thinking, rather than penny pinching.   Mentions: 🌐 Afford Anything: https://affordanything.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulapant/  🎙️ Afford Anything Podcast: https://affordanything.com/podcast/  📚 Are We In The Best Stock Market Period…Ever? https://bestinterest.blog/the-best-stock-market-period-ever/  📚 Should You Keep Investing At All-Time Highs? https://bestinterest.blog/investing-at-all-time-highs/  📚 The Incredible Power of 10X Thinking https://affordanything.com/any-benefit/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Brian Feroldi is a prolific creator in the financial education space, having written over 3000 articles for the Motley Fool, published a book, “Why Does The Stock Market Go Up?”, and actively posting to his YouTube Channel. In this episode, Brian breaks down his checklist for what makes a company worth investing in and provides some insight into what we should do before we jump into investing. If you’re interested in personal investing and some great guidelines to go along with it, this is the episode to listen to.   Key Takeaways: What is the index fund bubble? And what are some prominent thoughts on it? Should you be worried about an index fund bubble? How to get a sense of a company worth investing in. What criteria Brian uses when deciding what to invest in? Why you should “never interrupt your compounding unnecessarily.” Why you should take care of the boring before the exciting. Why you should keep your personal life and your investing life separate.   Mentions: 🌐 Brian Feroldi: https://www.brianferoldi.com/  🌐 Long Term Mindset: https://brianferoldi.substack.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianferoldi/  📚 Checklist: https://brianferoldi.ck.page/checklist  📚 Why Does The Stock Market Go Up? By Brian Feroldi: https://amzn.to/3Ij1Yax 🌐 Raoul Pal: https://www.youtube.com/@RaoulPalTJM  🌐 Ben Felix: https://www.youtube.com/@BenFelixCSI   🎙️ Odd Lots: Why The Rise of Passive Investing Might Be Distorting The Market: https://omny.fm/shows/odd-lots/why-the-rise-of-passive-investing-might-be-distort  🎙️ Animal Spirits Podcast: https://awealthofcommonsense.com/podcast/  📚 The Motley Fool: https://www.fool.ca/  🌐 More on The Index Fund Bubble:  https://bestinterest.blog/index-fund-bubble/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Joe Saul-Sehy is one of the hosts of Stacking Benjamins, which is one of the most listened-to podcasts in the personal finance space. In this episode, we discuss how to find a good financial advisor, how to chase time (not money), and even how to decide what your top priority is in life. If you’re looking for an educational listen with plenty of laughs along the way, then this is the episode for you!   Key Takeaways: What you need to ask any financial advisor you’re considering working with.  How Joe uses storytelling to make money make sense. Who you need to surround yourself with to find success. Before you ask what the cost is, ask what you’re getting in return.  Why you need to chase time, not money.  How to put your goals in an MMA cage match to determine your priorities.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://joesaulsehy.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-saul-sehy-b3426b31/  🎙️ Stacking Benjamins: https://www.stackingbenjamins.com/  📚 Stacked: Your Super-Serious Guide to Modern Money Management by Joe Saul-Sehy and Emily Guy Birken https://www.amazon.ca/Stacked-Super-Serious-Guide-Modern-Management-ebook/dp/B092HGBFB5 📚 “I Wouldn’t Know Where to Start” – 16 Questions to Ask A Financial Advisor by Jesse Cramer https://bestinterest.blog/financial-advisor-questions/  📚 The 19 Questions to Ask Your Financial Adviser By  Jason Zweig https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-19-questions-to-ask-your-financial-adviser-1503654013    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Today’s show features Doug Cunnington, one of the hosts of the financial independence podcast Mile High FI. Doug highlights how he took conservative risks along the way to FI, and walks us through his career journey to financial independence. We discuss misconceptions about the FIRE movement, how to prepare for financial emergencies, and why it’s never too late to start your own journey to financial goodness. This episode is a must listen!   Key Takeaways: What is risk, really? And how can you live with it? How to estimate risk in investing, and in yourself. The difference between volatility and risk. Why you need to do “financial fire drills.” How Doug set himself up for financial independence. What people get wrong about FI/RE. How to move on from a financial mess by looking forward. Stoicism and personal finance.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://bestinterest.blog/ 👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/doug-cunnington-pmp-a850435/  🎙️ The Mile High FI Podcast: https://milehighfi.com/  📚  Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@DougCunnington  📚 Career Change – Is It A Risk?: https://bestinterest.blog/career-change-risk/  📚 Investing “Fire Drills”:  https://bestinterest.blog/foxes/  📚 Mr. Money Mustache: https://www.mrmoneymustache.com/  📚 Ryan Holiday: https://ryanholiday.net/ryan-holiday-books/ 📚 Smart Passive Income: https://www.smartpassiveincome.com/shows/spi/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Diania Merriam is the founder of the EconoMe Conference, an exclusive gathering for the FIRE community (financial independence, retire early). Inspired by FIRE, Diania hit an impressive 60% savings rate and retired at 33. Of course, in retirement, you’ve got to stay active; what’s the point of financial freedom if you’ve got nothing to do? Diania joins Jesse today to discuss CoastFI, SlowFI, and the need to enjoy the journey. If you’re saving for retirement, but aren’t sure what to do with that retirement, this episode is for you!   Key Takeaways: What inspired Diania to walk the Camino de Santiago. How to disconnect for your career with purpose. Why you need a vision for what your retirement will look like. Don’t wait for financial independence to change your life. What are SlowFI and CoastFI? How to be an efficient saver, not a deprived saver. Why FI is better with friends.   Mentions: 🌐 EconoMe Conference: https://economeconference.com/  🎙️ Optimal Finance Daily: https://oldpodcast.com/optimal-finance-daily-podcast/  🎙️ ChooseFI Podcast: https://www.choosefi.com/listen/choose-fi-podcast/  📚 Robert Kiyosaki’s Awful Takes:  https://bestinterest.blog/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Kiyosaki_2-scaled.jpeg 📚 The Fioneers: https://thefioneers.com/  📚 Blowhards, Broken Clocks, and Confirmation Bias: https://bestinterest.blog/confirmation-bias/  📚 Rich Wolf, Poor Sheep: https://bestinterest.blog/rich-wolf-poor-sheep/     More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Jeremy is the voice behind Personal Finance Club, a community of champions of the individual investor dedicated to bringing accessible financial education to all. The Personal Finance Club believes financial education improves lives and it should be taught in school. You might have seen Jeremy and Personal Finance Club on Instagram where he posts eye catching financial graphics to almost 600, 000 followers.   In this episode Jesse and Jeremy discuss the 7 Sins of Investing. These simple lessons will give you valuable insight into some habits to avoid, skills to develop, and knowledge to gain for your financial well-being.   Key Takeaways: Your home is a lifestyle choice, but it’s not an investment - more of a hard to upkeep asset. Why you should “rent your fun”, treat money as a tool, and other useful ways to approach finances. How humans evolved to be impressionable and how this has been co-opted by consumerism. Live below your means, and invest early and often. Learn Jeremy’s 7 Sins of Investing. Why you should just stand there and wait. Jeremy’s Nectarine: Advice-Only Financial Advising.   Mentions: 📚 7 Money Mistakes: https://bestinterest.blog/money-mistakes/ 📚 Why’d I Buy a Home With a 6.5% Mortgage?!: https://bestinterest.blog/buy-a-home-high-interest-mortgage/ 🌐 Personal Finance Club: https://www.personalfinanceclub.com/  👉🏼 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/personalfinanceclub/   🌐 Nectarine: https://hellonectarine.com/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for education and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Sean Mullaney is the FI Tax Guy (FI = Financial Independence). He’s a financial planner and the president of Mullaney Financial and Tax Incorporated which offers fiduciary, fee-only, and advice-only financial planning. In this episode, Jesse dives deep on capital gains taxes, while Sean and Jesse dissect the Roth vs. Traditional debate, the efficacy of 529 Plans, and how to think about changes to the tax code coming in 2026.    Key Takeaways: What are capital gains? How to calculate capital gains, and the taxes on them. The NII tax explained.  10 ways to make the most of your capital gains. What is tax planning and how can you get started? How taking care of your financial future will also take care of your child’s. Which accounts might be “shiny objects” and which ones will serve you well.  What change is coming to the Internal Revenue Code in 2026, and how to prepare.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://fitaxguy.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanwmullaney/  🌐 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SeanMullaneyVideos  🌐 Twitter: https://twitter.com/seanmoneyandtax  📚 Capital Gains Taxes 101: https://bestinterest.blog/capital-gains-taxes-101/  📚 (Sean’s) Traditional versus Roth: https://fitaxguy.com/traditional-versus-roth-2023/  📚 (Jesse’s) Traditional versus Roth: https://bestinterest.blog/roth-is-better-than-traditional/ 📚 Time to Stop 401(k) Contributions?: https://fitaxguy.com/time-to-stop-401k-contributions/  📚 Traditional 401(k) are Fine for Most Americans (Really!): https://fitaxguy.com/traditional-401k-contributions-are-fine-for-most-americans-really/  📚 Year End Tax Planning: https://fitaxguy.com/2023-year-end-tax-planning/    More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The discussion is intended to be for general educational purposes and is not tax, legal, or investment advice for any individual. Jesse and The Best Interest Podcast do not endorse Sean Mullaney, Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. and their services. 
Rose Lounsbury is a keynote speaker, an Amazon bestselling author, simplicity coach and the still-sane mom of triplets. She helps overwhelmed people create open spaces in their homes, their workspaces, and more importantly in their minds by letting go of the excess stuff that gets in the way.   In today’s episode, Rose teaches us why towels are a great place to start when we’re looking to simplify our lives. What do we do about gifts? Hobbies? Or everything that occupies our space, energy, or time? These questions (and more) are answered in this conversation between Rose and Jesse.   Key Takeaways: What is bimodal spending? And how can you apply it? Don’t be afraid to spend on the things you really care about (and cut out what you don’t). How to decide what's useful to you and what’s beautiful. How to be a better gift giver and receiver.  How to pay attention to mental patterns that may be cluttering our minds. Start with decluttering the physical space, and then carry on to the mental space.   Mentions: 🌐 Website: https://roselounsbury.com/  👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rose-lounsbury-43554a141/  📚 How Many Towels Do You Need?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlA7qgySO0I  Bimodal Spending: https://bestinterest.blog/bimodal-spending/ The McDonald’s Test: https://bestinterest.blog/the-mcdonalds-test/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Today, Jesse shares some financial lessons from humble beginnings. There’s much to learn from his first entrepreneurial endeavor: a baseball concession stand. Then, Andrew Giancola joins the pod to share his “Hero’s Journey,” from a bottom point where he found himself unable to afford a fill-up of gasoline. Andrew has thoughts about peoples’ biggest problem with money, about opportunity costs we all face, and whether you should rent or buy your next home. Thanks for joining us today on The Best Interest.   Key Takeaways and Timestamps: (0:00:44) - Jesse shares a story from his early financial life about starting a concession stand business as a kid to earn money to buy a computer game. (0:09:31) - Jesse shares about his first job cleaning bathrooms and cabins at a state park for minimum wage. (0:13:30) - Brief ad break. (0:14:32) - Andrew Giancola, host of The Personal Finance Podcast, joins the show. (0:15:23) - Andrew shares his “Hero Story” of living paycheck to paycheck after college and having an "a-ha" moment when he couldn't afford to fill up his gas tank. (0:18:25) - Andrew reflects that changing his money mindset and psychology was the biggest factor in learning to manage his money properly.  (0:19:45) - Andrew discusses working one-on-one with clients, focusing on identifying their biggest problems and goals around money. (0:21:40) - Andrew shares a story about starting a side business selling Christmas trees and learning entrepreneurial lessons from it. (0:23:20) - Trying new ventures, seeing what works, and not being afraid to abandon things that aren't working. (0:24:43) - The importance of evaluating opportunity costs in building wealth. (0:28:14) - Tactics for evaluating non-monetary opportunity costs like time with family. (0:28:50) - Brief ad break. (0:29:04) -The first $100k is the hardest to accumulate because it relies more on savings rate versus investment returns. Once you hit $100k, compound interest accelerates wealth building. (0:33:08) - The importance of calculating total cost of homeownership before deciding whether to buy or rent. (0:35:05) - While homeownership can make sense, a house shouldn't be viewed primarily as an investment.   Mentions: The Millionaire Next Door:  https://amzn.to/3FKFfme   More of Andrew: 🌐 Website: https://mastermoney.co/ 🎙️ Podcast: https://mastermoney.co/podcast/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
In the day-to-day hustle of parenting, thinking long-term, especially regarding finances, is often challenging. With studies showing an estimated cost of over $300,000 to raise a child from birth to age 18 (excluding college expenses), addressing your monetary matters becomes utterly crucial before you embark on parenting. Today, Jesse sits down with Andy Hill to discuss combining finances with a spouse, preparing financially for a family, and setting your children up with the right money habits and mindset.   Key Takeaways: The cost of raising a child - childcare, medical, baby supplies, and other miscellaneous expenses The importance of pre-baby financial planning Financial Preparation - building an emergency fund and suggestive steps like paying off debts, focusing on retirement, and the necessity of considering life and health insurance Tax Benefit - child tax credit, dependent care credit, and tax-advantaged college saving accounts Saving tips - buying secondhand baby items through Facebook Marketplace, consignment sales, etc Estate Planning - an estate plan after having kids and considering special needs planning if applicable   Timestamps: (00:00:02) - Intro (00:00:49) - Review of the week (00:01:31) - 12 financial topics for new parents (00:01:54) - Children are expensive (00:03:56) - Life insurance matters  (00:05:12) - Property and auto insurance (00:05:17) - Childcare costs (00:06:57) - Education costs (00:08:59) - Estate planning (00:10:49) - Children and taxes (00:12:52) - Topics that change with kids (00:13:48) - Budgeting (00:15:34) - Debt management (00:17:59) - Roth IRAs for kids (00:20:13) - Generational wealth (00:20:29) - Kids are expensive but worth it (00:21:18) - Andy Hill background (00:22:27) - Money languages (00:28:12) - When to combine finances (00:30:54) - Autonomy with money (00:32:21) - Preventing financial fights   (00:37:18) - Tracking goals and expenses (00:39:20) - Focusing on the journey (00:42:33) - Planning for kid expenses   (00:46:10) - Teaching money lessons   (00:48:22) - Make My Kid a Millionaire course (00:50:29) - Where to find Andy (00:50:38) - Outro   More of Andy: 🌐 Website: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/ 🎙️ Podcast: https://marriagekidsandmoney.com/podcast-archive/   Mentions: Best Interest: New Parents: https://bestinterest.blog/12-financial-planning-topics-for-new-parents/ Best Interest: 529 Plans: https://bestinterest.blog/529-plans/ Make My Kid a Millionaire Course: https://makemykidamillionaire.com/sa/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Do you see yourself dying on top of a pile of gold like Scrooge McDuck? Today’s guest, Chris Hutchins, shares his story of how he balances hacking his life: credit cards, chores, out of the box thinking, you name it, with keeping his end goals in mind. But, first, Jesse recounts his travels. He may have learned a lesson or two from the busy street traffic in Vietnam vs the quaint pubs of Ireland.    Key Takeaways: Why creating success is more about buy-in than perfection Taking life a beat slower The difference between being cheap and out of the box hacking Hacking your biggest expenses like travel and a home purchase Finding the best credit card(s) for your needs A two credit card arrangement for the average 6-figure household Welcome bonuses vs credit card points The concept of dying with zero Time vs talent vs treasure Parenting hacks: childcare, toys, pre-school   More of Chris: Meet Chris Hutchins, the award-winning host of the podcast All the Hacks, where he shares his expertise as an avid life hacker and financial optimizer. With a passion for upgrading life without breaking the bank, Chris has amassed millions of points and miles and gained recognition in a documentary on Financial Independence titled Playing with Fire. His journey has been featured in prestigious publications like the New York Times, Wall Street Journal, and CNBC.   🌐 Website: https://chrishutchins.com/ 👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrishutchins?challengeId=AQGITSbSG-9jCgAAAYsC9WYBIIM7Yp2UVgDuZlnrKV265AhZIoBxWyQSb3CFc4xqMbwpAGNJZQZwjEjW5rLreCYgG9Jx-9qrFQ&submissionId=6a0b0de6-e465-8b17-8f81-8eb0290e6367&challengeSource=AgEpy0oVHNovsgAAAYsC9ZiZtJg5cClI6pARtvBLtpJOvnAgaTdyMNtIBJvwJj8&challegeType=AgG_xNwgUb1fTgAAAYsC9ZibhUXUuXxzGk27e3-yJo17WDGW9WBDXOs&memberId=AgG-EcKxDFXLuwAAAYsC9ZieJ9xuhZ2BizsgyDGbd8gl8Ck&recognizeDevice=AgEldEYiD2CLIgAAAYsC9ZigBUVo8Or7oL4B25pE8FUEhB4TcMjr 🎙️ Podcast: https://www.allthehacks.com/    Mentions: All the Hacks Episode 91: https://www.allthehacks.com/die-with-zero-bill-perkins/ Credit Card Spreadsheet: https://landing.allthehacks.com/products/card-optimization-spreadsheet   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Nonillion… That’s a number so big, I hadn’t heard it before recording this episode. Should you budget and track every single dollar you spend? Should you put 10 percent of your income into your 401k? These are just two of the typical questions I get asked when it comes to money management. In fact, when you think about the hundreds of decisions the average person is faced with in their financial journey, you end up with a nonillion different possible outcomes.   This week I brought on Cody Garrett to make these decisions a little clearer. With dual degrees in music theory and contemporary piano performance, Cody shifted gears in 2018 to focus on his growing interest in finances. Having served as a music director for renowned Broadway shows to now, sharing actionable personal finance advice, Cody's journey is a testament to his drive and adaptability. Cody runs his firm that caters to DIY investors on the path of early retirement, and also educates over 1000 financial advisors, impacting the future of financial planning in a meaningful way.   Just because you’re a do-it-yourself investor doesn’t mean you have to do it alone. -Cody Garrett   Key Takeaways: Teaching is the best way to learn Understanding advice only financial planning The Transition Zone of financial planning: tax planning Traditional vs. Roth Contributions Marginal vs Effective Tax Rates The “Kiddie Tax” and 529 plans   Mentions: https://bestinterest.blog/financial-advisor-questions/   More of Cody: 🌐 Website: https://measuretwicefinancial.com/ 👉🏼 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/codylgarrett/ 🎙️ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/measure-twice-money/id1608034167   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.  
How do you know when you are taking the right financial road? Should you prioritize saving money to be better off in the future? Or is it more beneficial to ensure you are using money as a resource for happiness in the present? Our guest today, Carl Jensen, has chosen the first option for the majority of his life, using money not as a resource for happiness, but one to defend against hardships. Recently, however, Carl has begun to take this road less traveled to optimize experiences while investing in his happiness. In this episode, we discuss how the household finances of our childhood can affect our spending habits as adults, and how to use exposure therapy to overcome the anxiety surrounding happiness based purchases.    Key Takeaways: How the household finances of our childhood can affect our long term financial habits Overcoming financial trauma How to spread good financial habits to those close to us Why taking the road less traveled isn’t always the better option How to use exposure therapy to start making purchases for happiness How to overcome anxiety around an experience-based purchase Stepping away from money-first thinking to focus on the experience   Mentions: Bigger Pockets Money Podcast Episode with Jesse: https://www.biggerpockets.com/blog/money-335 I Will Teach You To Be Rich Podcast Episode with Carl and Mindy: https://www.iwillteachyoutoberich.com/108-mindy-carl/ 1500 Days Blog Post “Why Ramit?”: https://www.1500days.com/why-ramit/  Die With Zero: https://www.amazon.com/Die-Zero-Getting-Your-Money/dp/0358099765   More of Carl: 🌐 Website: https://www.1500days.com  🎙️ Podcast: https://milehighfi.com   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Today on the podcast, we have a fascinating guest. He's a gentleman by the name of Fritz Gilbert. He runs a blog called The Retirement Manifesto. As you might guess from the name of Fritz's blog, it's all about retirement. Now, yes, Fritz covers the nuts and bolts, the numbers of retirement, but we talk even more regarding the softer side of retirement, the things that retirees ought to be thinking about when it comes to just day-to-day life that they probably aren't thinking about. If you're younger like me, this might not quite apply to you yet, but I bet it applies to your parents, your aunts and uncles, and your older mentors at work. So, it’s important we get people to think about these topics sooner. Enjoy!   Mentions: Morningstar’s The Long View Interview with Fritz: https://www.morningstar.com/podcasts/the-long-view/e8b3c47b-0e67-4c00-b146-8b1060a5d604 The Retirement Manifesto Blog: https://www.theretirementmanifesto.com/blog/   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
What exactly does it mean to live a regret free life? Our guest today, Jordan Grumet aka Doc G, shares the observations he’s made as a hospice doctor. We get into a discussion about how money is a mirage. Many people view it as this big important thing, but in reality it’s just a construct. It helps us achieve other things, and it's those other things which are truly important, not the money itself. It can be easy to forget money is just one of many tools at your disposal in building a happy life. So, today we extrapolate what those tools might be, and how money fits in the middle of it all.   Mentions: Taking Stock: A Hospice Doctor’s Advice on Financial Independence, Building Wealth, and Living a Regret-Free Life: https://amzn.to/45e47Ol   More of Jordan: Website: https://jordangrumet.com/ Podcast: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CdpAR3sgltBBhDcpWRq0g   More of The Best Interest: The article I read from today: https://bestinterest.blog/where-life-happens/ Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
Today, I’m going to share the five false proxies leading people astray in their financial goals. In fact, what if I told you a recent study revealed your $1 million investment principal was more likely to quadruple than remain flat even after decades of enjoying a 4% withdrawal rate? Would you rethink your saving strategy? Would you consider passing along some of your inheritance sooner in life? With that said, how do we come close to dying with zero? Our guest today has plenty of thoughts on bolstering the longevity of our finances, and surprisingly, his number one tip has nothing to do with your money. We also discuss lump sum investments vs dollar cost averaging and if you should be worrying about pennies when you might be missing out on dollars. I hope you enjoy my conversation with the creator of Of Dollars and Data, Nick Maggiulli. Mentions: Just Keep Buying: Proven Ways to Save Money and Build Your Wealth: https://amzn.to/3DCXs43 Die With Zero: Getting All You Can from Your Money and Your Life: https://amzn.to/3DAXnhs Outlive: The Science and Art of Longevity: https://amzn.to/457Yh0D   More of Nick: Blog: https://ofdollarsanddata.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicholasmaggiulli   More of The Best Interest: Check out the Best Interest Blog at bestinterest.blog Contact me at jesse@bestinterest.blog   The Best Interest Podcast is a personal podcast meant for educational and entertainment. It should not be taken as financial advice, and is not prescriptive of your financial situation.
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