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Author: Kris Rocha & Jenn Howie

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Welcome to " The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast," where hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie explore the complexities of betrayal and offer guidance on how to recover and transform from its aftermath.

Through candid conversations and interviews with experts in the field, Kris and Jenn delve into topics such as healing from betrayal trauma, rebuilding trust, and helping individuals uncover their unique identities. Join us on this journey of self-discovery and transformation as we provide a safe and supportive space for listeners to heal, grow, and learn how to turn trauma into triumph.

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Over 36 years ago, Kris sat in the classroom of her Bible college professor, Paul Marc Goulet, learning lessons that would profoundly shape her understanding of God, cognitive function, and the power of the stories we tell ourselves. Decades later, their paths cross again for a deeply meaningful conversation about how our God concepts—what we believe about who God is—shape every part of our faith, healing, and daily life.A pastor, author, counselor, and global leader, Paul draws from his extensive background in psychology and theology to unpack the ways distorted beliefs about God can keep us trapped in emotional pain and confusion. He introduces us to one of his most impactful teachings, “the Vat,” a concept describing how our thoughts and experiences create a mental and spiritual environment that either nurtures truth or reinforces distortion.Together, Kris and Paul explore how to reconcile our view of God with life’s hardest moments—especially for those walking through betrayal and trauma. This episode invites listeners to reframe suffering, rediscover who God really is, and find freedom in knowing His love is consistent, kind, and unwavering.Key Takeaways from the Episode:Our God concept—what we subconsciously believe about God—shapes how we interpret everything in life.Distorted God concepts often stem from early experiences of authority, love, or rejection.Healing involves replacing lies about God with biblical truth and relational experiences of His character.“The Vat” illustrates how unprocessed pain can distort our perception of God, self, and others—and how renewal begins by changing what we allow into that space.Reframing the question “Why do bad things happen to good people?” opens the door to deeper faith and trust.Understanding God through Scripture (1 Corinthians 13:4–8) helps us see His true nature as love itself.True breakthrough happens when we allow God to rewrite the stories we’ve been telling ourselves.Connect with Paul Marc Goulet: 🌐 www.paulmarcgoulet.com 📖 Books: Breakthrough, Crack the Code (coming soon) 🌍 Follow his global initiatives and leadership training in Madagascar and beyond.Connect with Us: 🎧 Listen & Subscribe: Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast 🌐 Visit: www.watermarkcoach.com 📸 Follow: @watermarkcoaching 💬 Produced by Kris Rocha & Jeremy Waldridge
Stacey Smith, a trusted voice at Daring Ventures, returns to the Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast to unpack the often-hidden topic of spiritual abuse. With deep wisdom and a passion for justice, Stacey helps individuals heal from trauma, reclaim their identity, and walk in the truth of who God created them to be.In this conversation, Stacey joins Kris and Jenn to explore how spiritual abuse can take root within faith communities—often cloaked in tradition or twisted theology—and how women can move from confusion and pain toward clarity, courage, and freedom. She shares how recognizing God’s true character brings restoration and empowers women to rediscover their voice and worth in Him.Key Takeaways from the Episode:What spiritual abuse is and why it can be difficult to recognizeHow Scripture is sometimes misused to control or silence womenThe ways Jesus elevated and empowered women throughout His ministryWhy silencing women in the Church diminishes God’s full expression of who He isHow to find healing, freedom, and restored faith after spiritual harmPractical ways to use your voice and live in alignment with God’s truthConnect with Stacey:Daring Ventures: www.daringventures.comConnect with Us:www.watermarkcoach.com @watermarkcoachingThank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve.Sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
Gigi Hopkins, Professional Certified Coach (PCC) and Director of Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries, joins us for a candid conversation about how healing from betrayal can produce unexpected gifts. With over 24 years of ministry experience and a passion for walking alongside women in the midst of betrayal trauma, Gigi offers both professional insight and deep personal compassion. She shares her “Gifts of Betrayal” list, encouraging us to see how God can transform pain into growth, maturity, and stronger relationships.From growing in faith to developing healthier boundaries, Gigi helps us recognize the ways God uses even the most devastating experiences to shape us into who we were created to be. Whether your marriage has ended or become stronger through healing, this conversation will remind you that hope and wholeness are possible.Key Takeaways from the Episode:Healing from betrayal can strengthen faith and transform character.Betrayal can teach us to be better stewards of what God entrusts to us.True friendship often grows deeper through shared vulnerability.Self-awareness is a critical part of the healing process.Healthy boundaries lead to healthier relationships.Healing shifts our perspective toward eternity and lasting hope.Some marriages end, while others become stronger than before—both can lead to growth.Connect with Gigi Hopkins:Wives Care at Be Broken Ministries: www.bebroken.org/wivescareLifter of My Head Coaching: www.lifterofmyhead.orgConnect with Us:www.watermarkcoach.com@watermarkcoachingThank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve.Sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
In this special episode, we’re joined by Dr. Jake Porter, renowned relational trauma expert, coach, and founder of Daring Ventures. Known for his groundbreaking work helping individuals and couples heal from betrayal and rebuild trust, Jake brings deep insight and compassion to the recovery journey.Together, we explore the transformative power of integrity-centered healing and learning to be comfortable being uncomfortable. Jake shares his personal experience participating in a program called Men and Women of Discomfort, and how its lessons have shaped his understanding of growth, resilience, and the human capacity to endure and overcome.It was truly an honor to have Jake on the show. His heart for helping others heal, combined with the impactful work of Daring Ventures, continues to bring hope and clarity to those navigating some of life’s most painful chapters.Key Takeaways:Get to know Dr. Jake Porter and the story behind Daring VenturesWhy integrity is central to long-term recoveryWhat Jake learned from the Men and Women of Discomfort programHow embracing discomfort can lead to emotional, spiritual, and relational growthEncouragement for those walking through betrayal and rebuilding trustConnect with Dr. Jake Porter & Daring Ventures: 🌐 www.daringventures.com 📸 Instagram: @daringventuresConnect with Watermark Coaching: 🌐 www.watermarkcoach.com 📸 Instagram: @watermarkcoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
How much truth is too much truth? What if you feel ready for disclosure, but your partner doesn't? What’s the actual goal of a therapeutic disclosure—and how do you know when you’re ready?In this episode, we sit down with Dan Drake, a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist and expert in betrayal trauma and sex addiction recovery. Dan unpacks the basics of therapeutic disclosure, a structured process where the full truth of sexual betrayal is disclosed in a safe, supported setting. He shares the potential risks and profound benefits of doing disclosure correctly, and clears up common misconceptions, especially among the men preparing to disclose and the women bracing for impact.Whether you’re just beginning the recovery process or preparing for a formal disclosure, this conversation offers compassionate guidance, clinical insight, and hope for deeper healing on the other side of the truth.About Our Guest: Dan Drake, LMFT, LPCC, CCPS-S, CSAT-S, is the founder of The Banyan Group, a therapy and coaching practice specializing in betrayal trauma, compulsive sexual behavior, and couples recovery. With over 20 years of clinical experience, Dan is widely respected for his work helping couples rebuild trust through the process of therapeutic disclosure and long-term recovery. Learn more about Dan’s work at www.thebanyangroup.org.Key Topics Discussed:What is therapeutic disclosure, and why does it matter?How do you know if you're ready for a disclosure (as the betrayed or the betrayer)?What role does the polygraph play in disclosure, and when is it helpful?Why disclosure isn't just a one-time confession but a step toward rebuilding trustCommon misunderstandings men and women bring into the processTips for doing disclosure remotely, safely, and with good aftercareA powerful final encouragement from Dan for both spouses on the healing pathConnect with Us:🌐 www.watermarkcoach.com🎙️ Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast📸 Instagram: @watermarkcoaching🔍 Looking for a trained guide to walk you through disclosure? Visit Kintsugi Recovery Partners and explore the Find a Guide section for professionals trained in Dan and Dr. Janice Caudill’s disclosure process.Sponsored by Pure Life Alliance
This week on The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, we’re joined by Amy Elysse—vocal coach, faith-filled encourager, and a radiant light in her community. Amy opens up about her own betrayal story and shares how the human voice, primarily through singing, can become a powerful tool for healing. Whether you’re musically inclined or simply longing to express yourself more fully, Amy brings warmth, insight, and practical wisdom to the conversation. And she's created a free recording to guide you through a healing exercise.As a mom and coach, Amy helps women reclaim their voices and step into confidence through song and self-expression. She reminds us that healing doesn’t have to be heavy; it can be joyful, playful, and freeing.Key Takeaways from the Episode:How Amy’s betrayal story shaped her understanding of healingWhy the voice is such a powerful vehicle for recoveryParallels between singing and the process of emotional healingWhat it really means to “find your voice” after betrayalEasy, fun ways to bring music and singing into your daily healing practicesEncouragement for anyone on the journey of rebuildingConnect with Amy: Follow Amy on Instagram at @tunedintograceConnect with Us: Visit our website: Watermark Coach Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the hope and support they deserve.Produced and edited by Kris Rocha & Cory Gonzalez.Sponsored by Pure Life Alliance
Pornography addiction is one of the most misunderstood struggles in the church today, often shrouded in shame and secrecy. Sam Black, Director of Recovery Education at Covenant Eyes and author of The Healing Church: What Churches Get Wrong About Pornography and How to Fix It, joins us to share how real freedom comes through accountability, grace, and informed support. Drawing from his journalism background and over 70 interviews with pastors, counselors, and people in recovery, Sam offers practical wisdom for churches, couples, and individuals navigating the path to healing.Key Takeaways:How Covenant Eyes Works – Sam explains how the software uses screen accountability and ally relationships to help individuals break free from pornography.What Makes Accountability Effective – Data shows accountability is most potent when allies are engaged, supportive, and focused on deeper heart change—not just behavior monitoring.Support for Spouses—Sam offers compassionate advice for wives who hope software will cure them, emphasizing that while it's a helpful tool, healing requires a broader process of trust-building and recovery.What Churches Get Wrong – Drawing from The Healing Church, Sam reveals common missteps ministry leaders make—like placing blame on spouses or assuming more sex will “fix” the problem—and how to shift toward grace-filled support.The Power of Collaboration: Sam shares why he invited Dr. Sheri Keffer to author a chapter in his book, emphasizing the importance of including voices from the betrayal trauma community in the healing process.Resources Mentioned:Covenant EyesThe Healing Church by Sam BlackAllied: Fighting Porn with Accountability, Faith, and Friends – Free eBookConnect with Sam Black:LinkedInRead Sam’s Articles at Covenant EyesConnect with Us!👉 Watermark Coaching👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
Dr. Anthony Walker joins us to share how he helps men navigate the healing process after betrayal. He provides insights from Help Her Heal, a workbook by Carol Jergensen Sheets, and discusses how men can develop emotional attunement, overcome resistance, and strengthen their relationships.Key Talking Points:What led Dr. Anthony Walker to Help Her Heal and how he incorporates its strategies in his coaching.The importance of emotional attunement in repairing relational trust and how men can develop this skill.Common misconceptions men have about betrayal trauma and how Help Her Heal addresses them.How men can work through shame and defensiveness to focus on healing both themselves and their relationships.The role of spiritual warfare in marriage and how couples can recognize and combat these challenges.Encouragement for men who are resistant to engaging in the healing process and practical steps to begin.Resources Mentioned:Help Her Heal by Carol Jergensen Sheets – Amazon LinkLearn more about Dr. Anthony Walker at www.coachanthonywalker.comIntensive Hope Coaching – www.intensivehope.com/pages/services/coaching.htmlConnect with Us!👉 Watermark Coaching👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
In this episode, we welcome Hope Ray, a Licensed Professional Counselor who coined Betrayal Violence. Hope is a leader in the field of betrayal trauma, offering deep insights into the effects of secrecy, deception, and relational power imbalances. She is also the creator of Complex Partner Trauma magazine, available on Amazon, which provides resources and support for betrayed partners.Throughout our conversation, we dive into Reality Collapse, the disorientation that betrayed partners experience, and explore how betrayal violence impacts healing and recovery. Hope shares her expertise on recognizing and navigating these complex emotional experiences, helping listeners regain clarity and reclaim their sense of reality.Key Takeaways from the Episode:🔹 Understanding Reality Collapse – Hope explains what Reality Collapse is, why it occurs, and how often a betrayed partner might experience it.🔹 Identifying Reality Collapse – We discuss the key signs that indicate someone is experiencing a Reality Collapse and how it can distort their perception of past and present experiences.🔹 Betrayal Violence and Its Effects – Hope unpacks how betrayal violence exacerbates trauma and why it’s essential to recognize its impact.🔹 Endangerment in Betrayal Trauma – What does endangerment mean in the context of betrayal trauma? Hope explains how betrayed partners can assess and safeguard their emotional and physical well-being.🔹 Processing Betrayal and Reality Collapse – Hope shares how Reality Collapse affects a betrayed partner's ability to process their experiences and the symptoms that indicate they may be struggling.🔹 Steps Toward Healing and Reclaiming Reality – Practical strategies for those who have experienced Reality Collapse, including steps to rebuild trust in themselves and their perceptions.Connect with Us:👉 Website: hoperay.com👉 Watermark Coaching👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
We had the privilege of sitting down with Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith to discuss the transformative power of the Intimacy Pyramid. With their personal story of betrayal, addiction, and healing as the backdrop, the Raabsmiths shared actionable insights and hope for couples looking to rebuild trust, connection, and relational intimacy.The Raabsmiths are passionate leaders in the field of marriage and relationship restoration. Combining their expertise with their lived experience, they empower couples to overcome the challenges of betrayal and relational trauma. As creators of the Intimacy Pyramid, they provide a structured and compassionate approach to help couples rediscover trust, deepen connection, and cultivate true intimacy. Learn more about their groundbreaking work at https://intimacypyramid.com/.Key Takeaways from the Episode:How They Got Started: Matthew and Joanna share their journey into this field, driven by a deep desire to support couples in navigating the complexities of betrayal and healing.Joy in the Work: They reveal the most rewarding aspects of working with couples, including witnessing the transformation and renewed hope in relationships.Challenges in the Healing Process: The Raabsmiths identify key hurdles couples face, emphasizing the importance of patience, vulnerability, and perseverance.The Intimacy Pyramid: This is an amazing tool for guiding couples step-by-step toward thriving intimacy, fostering trust, safety, and mutual understanding.Keys to Success for Both Partners: Insights into what the betraying spouse, the betrayed partner, and the couple as a whole can do to move forward successfully.Personal Story: Matthew and Joanna’s candid sharing of their own struggles and triumphs offers hope and relatability for listeners.Connect with Us:👉 Visit Matthew and Joanna Raabsmith’s website👉 Free Resource from the Raabsmiths!👉 Watermark Coaching👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
We’re excited to welcome Dr. Laura Sanger back to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! Dr. Sanger’s first episode remains the top fan favorite, and we are thrilled to have her return with another timely and profound message—this time focusing on rest, just in time for the holiday season.Dr. Sanger is a clinical psychologist, author, and the founder of No Longer Enslaved (www.nolongerenslaved.com), where she equips individuals to live free in their God-given identity, authority, and purpose.In this episode, we explore: 🌟 What is the importance of entering into Sabbath Rest? Dr. Sanger shares how Sabbath rest is more than physical; it’s a spiritual posture of trust and renewal.🌟 What are the redemptive gifts of Romans 12? We dive into the unique ways God has wired us to bring His light into the world.🌟 What does it mean to walk in dominion authority? Learn what it looks like to walk confidently in the birthright authority Christ has given us.This discussion is packed with insight, encouragement, and practical applications for embracing rest, stepping into your gifts, and walking in victory.Why this episode matters: As we approach Christmas, the message of entering into God’s rest couldn’t be more relevant. Whether navigating life’s busyness, recovering from betrayal, or simply seeking a deeper relationship with God, this episode will inspire and equip you.Connect with Us:👉 No Longer Enslaved👉 Watermark Coaching👉 Follow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching🌟 Thank you for listening! Don’t forget to subscribe, rate, and review The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Your feedback helps us grow and ensures more people can find the hope and support they deserve.This podcast is proudly sponsored by and produced with the support of Pure Life Alliance.
On today's episode of The BRT Podcast, we welcome the amazing Stacey Smith. She’s the Chief Clinical Officer and a Clinical Therapist at Daring Ventures. With a personal recovery journey from betrayal and "stinkin' thinkin'," Stacey uses her lived experience and professional expertise to guide betrayed partners and those suffering from addiction toward healing. She is certified in EMDR therapy and specializes in helping people overcome attachment wounds and shame. Stacey is passionate about creating a healing partnership with her clients and believes in the transformative power of therapy.Key Highlights:Stacey shares the acronym "Empower" to teach us about Post Betrayal Growth.E - Embrace ChangeM - MovementP -Positive Mentality/MindsetO - Own Your LifeW- Welcome PowerE - Elect a ChoiceR - Resolve to ChooseConnect with Us:Stacey SmithWatermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
We are thrilled to welcome Elizabeth Abbruzza, the Co-Founder and Clinical Director of the Bellevue Trauma Recovery Center, to the podcast. With a deep focus on relational trauma and betrayal, Elizabeth shares her expertise and details about the impactful Resilience Through Betrayal (RTB) intensives offered at her center. About Elizabeth Abbruzza: Elizabeth holds a Master's degree in Clinical Mental Health Counseling from Gonzaga University and specializes in addressing relational trauma, sex addiction, and problematic sexual behaviors. As a primary therapist for the Resilience Through Betrayal intensives, she empowers individuals to navigate healing after betrayal, offering therapeutic expertise and compassionate care.Key Highlights:Origins of RTB Intensive: Elizabeth explains how the Resilience Through Betrayal program was developed to provide a focused and immersive approach for individuals dealing with betrayal trauma.Daily Structure: Learn what a typical day at RTB intensives entails, including how sessions are structured to balance therapeutic work with emotional well-being.Immediate Client Needs: Discover the importance of creating safety and validation for participants at the beginning of the intensive.Desired Outcomes: Elizabeth outlines the program's goals, which include fostering resilience, self-compassion, and emotional healing.Preventing Overload: Insights are shared on how participants are supported to avoid feeling overwhelmed while engaging in deep therapeutic work.Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT): In the final section, Elizabeth introduces Emotional Transformation Therapy (ETT), a promising method that fosters healing by addressing deep emotional wounds. This engaging conversation offers hope and new possibilities for recovery.Connect with Us:Elizabeth Abbruzza: Bellevue Trauma Recovery CenterWatermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
Introduction: Kris and Jenn sit down with Karen Rellos, founder of Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry. Karen, a certified betrayal trauma coach, joins the conversation to shed light on a topic that affects many relationships—Intimacy Deprivation, also known as Intimacy Atrophy (IA). With her extensive background in helping women navigate betrayal trauma, Karen offers valuable insights into the causes, impacts, and healing journey surrounding intimacy deprivation in relationships.Key Highlights:What is Intimacy Atrophy?Karen explains Intimacy Atrophy as a gradual loss of emotional, physical, or spiritual connection within a relationship. The term highlights the diminishing closeness and vulnerability in relationships, which can deeply impact both partners.Root Causes of Intimacy Deprivation:According to Karen, the root causes of Intimacy Atrophy often lie in unresolved emotional wounds, betrayal trauma, or avoidance of vulnerability. She discusses how individuals who struggle with intimacy deprivation may have past hurts or emotional blockages that prevent them from fully engaging in the relationship.Behaviors and Coping Mechanisms:Karen outlines common behaviors associated with intimacy deprivation, including emotional withdrawal, detachment, or the avoidance of meaningful connection. These coping mechanisms may develop as a way to shield oneself from emotional pain but ultimately contribute to a lack of closeness in the relationship.Impact on the Partner and Relationship:Karen explains how intimacy atrophy can lead to feelings of rejection, loneliness, and frustration in the partner who desires deeper connection, creating further strain and misunderstandings.Healing and Recovery:Karen emphasizes that healing from intimacy deprivation is possible. She describes the recovery process, which involves addressing the root causes, developing emotional awareness, and taking intentional steps toward rebuilding intimacy. A Word of Encouragement:In closing, Karen offers a heartfelt message to listeners, encouraging them to stay committed to the journey of healing and growth. She reminds them that it’s possible to rekindle intimacy and build stronger, more fulfilling connections.Connect with Us:Karen Rellos: Restored Hope Coaching and Redeeming Love Marriage Ministry.Watermark CoachHealing with the HowiesFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟This podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
In this episode, we welcome Diane Schnickels, founder of Living Waters of Hope and a dedicated advocate for survivors of domestic abuse. Diane brings her extensive experience and compassionate approach to discuss when sex addiction crosses the line into abuse. She has developed crucial resources like the Oasis Bible Study and the Hope Giver Essentials training program, empowering women to heal and reclaim their lives. Today, Diane shares her insights on recognizing the signs of abuse related to sex addiction and provides valuable guidance on supporting those affected.Key Highlights:Deceit and Betrayal: Repeated lying and secretive behavior that creates mistrust.Emotional Manipulation: Gaslighting and minimizing actions that distort reality.Neglect and Abandonment: The emotional neglect caused by prioritizing addiction over the relationship.Sexual Coercion or Pressure: The importance of consent and respecting boundaries.Financial Exploitation: Misuse of joint finances for addiction-related expenses.Exposure to STDs: Health risks posed by undisclosed risky sexual behaviors.Impact on Mental Health: Anxiety, depression, and PTSD as consequences of dealing with a partner's sex addiction.Connect with Us:Living Waters of HopeVisit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they deserve. 🌟Produced and edited by Kris Rocha & Jeremy WaldridgeThis podcast is sponsored by and produced with the support of www.purelifealliance.com
On this episode of BRT, we have a special guest, Pastor Nick Stumbo. Nick is the Executive Director of Pure Desire Ministries and has an extensive background in pastoral ministry. He began his ministry career at East Hills Alliance Church in Kelso, Washington, where he served as lead pastor for over a decade. Confronted with his own pornography addiction, Nick and his wife, Michelle, found hope and healing through Pure Desire’s counseling and group ministries. His public disclosure led to a revival of forgiveness and healing within his church, and he continues to lead the way in helping churches become places of healing. Episode Description: In this episode, Kris, Jenn, and Nick share a powerful message for pastors and clergy on effectively supporting women going through betrayal trauma. Using the analogy of how a paramedic would treat a severe wound, they provide six key steps for clergy and support personnel to follow:Key Highlights:Assess the Severity of the Wound - Listen to Her: Nick emphasizes the importance of actively listening to the betrayed spouse, believing her reality, and displaying genuine sympathy. Show kindness and care to provide solace during her crisis.Stop the Bleeding - Focus on the immediate need, not the marriage. Avoid cause-and-effect thinking and allow her to express her emotions and needs at her own pace. Asking "permission questions" will help the clergy better understand her urgent concerns and priorities.Bandage the Wound & Stabilize the Patient - Educate Her About the Healing Process. Inform her there is a healing process, and she will not be alone. Don’t Rush Forgiveness: Understand forgiveness and avoid minimizing the situation. Guide Her in the Present: Help her focus on the "now" and provide comfort and hope. Teach the Keys to Rebuilding Trust: Discuss sincerity, ability, and durability as crucial elements of rebuilding trust.Treat for Shock - Normalize the Experience: Minimize isolation, emotional flooding, and embarrassment by providing community and helping her deal with emotions. Provide Community: Connect her with others who understand her situation and can offer support.Support the Injury - Offer Support: Provide resources, encourage her to grieve, help her establish a circle of trust, and teach the importance of healthy boundaries.If the Wound is Too Severe, Call 911 - Ask for Help: Refer her to trained professionals like CSATs, PSAPs, CCPSs, and C-SASIs for specialized support. "When in doubt, refer out!"Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingPure Desire Ministries: https://puredesire.orgThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes. 🌟This episode's content was written and produced by Kris RochaEdited by: Dan HowieThis podcast is produced with the support of: www.purelifealliance.com
Welcome to the 20th episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast! This is a significant milestone for us, and we're thrilled to celebrate it with a special guest, Debby Flanagan. Debby is a clinician with Pure Desire Ministries, where she serves as a Pastoral Sex Addiction Professional. She holds a Bachelor's degree from Corban University and has an Advanced Certification through the International Institute for Trauma and Addiction Professionals (IITAP). Debby is dedicated to helping individuals who are struggling with sexual and emotional issues, guiding them through their healing journey with compassion and expertise.Episode Description: In this milestone episode, we dive deep into the topic of trauma with Debby Flanagan. Debby shares her profound knowledge of trauma, how it affects our brain and body, and its impacts on our relationships. She also discusses common signs and symptoms of trauma, how to recognize it within ourselves, practical strategies for recovery, and ways to support someone who is dealing with trauma.Key Highlights:Understanding Trauma:Debby explains what trauma is and the different forms it can take. She provides insights into how trauma can stem from various sources and how it manifests in our lives.Effects on Brain and Body:Learn about the physiological and psychological impacts of trauma. Debby discusses how trauma affects brain function, the nervous system, and overall physical health.Impacts on Relationships:Discover how trauma can influence our interactions and relationships. Debby highlights the challenges and dynamics that trauma introduces into personal and interpersonal connections.Common Signs and Symptoms:Debby outlines the typical signs and symptoms of trauma, helping listeners to identify these in themselves or others. Understanding these indicators is crucial for initiating the healing process.Recognizing Trauma Within Ourselves:Debby shares strategies for self-awareness and self-reflection to recognize trauma within ourselves. She emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and validating our experiences.Practical Strategies for Recovery:Gain practical advice and tools for trauma recovery. Debby discusses therapeutic approaches, self-care practices, and coping mechanisms that can aid in the healing journey.Supporting Someone with Trauma:Learn how to support someone who is dealing with trauma effectively. Debby guides by offering empathy, creating a safe space, and encouraging professional help.Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes. 🌟Produced by: Kris RochaEdited by: Jeremy WaldrigeThis podcast is produced with the support of: www.purelifealliance.com
Join hosts Kris Rocha and Jenn Howie for another enlightening episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast. Today, we welcome back Tammy Gustafson, a renowned betrayal trauma coach, therapist, writer, and speaker. Tammy is here to delve deeper into her "Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal," sharing her expert insights and personal experiences. This episode is packed with valuable information, laughter, and heartfelt moments.About Tammy Gustafson: Tammy Gustafson is the founder of Betrayal Healing, a platform dedicated to helping women navigate the painful healing journey after betrayal. With over 15 years of experience as a licensed professional counselor specializing in trauma and PTSD, Tammy brings both professional expertise and personal understanding to her work. She is passionate about empowering women to reclaim their peace, confidence, and self-worth.Key Highlights:Phase 1: RevealIn this initial phase, Tammy explains how individuals often feel shattered and overwhelmed by the betrayal. This phase focuses on uncovering the truth and acknowledging the reality of the situation. It's about confronting the painful facts and starting the journey towards healing.Phase 2: RumbleThis phase involves wrestling with the emotional turmoil and confusion that follow the discovery of betrayal. Tammy emphasizes the importance of processing these intense emotions and beginning to understand their impact on one's life and relationships.Phase 3: RealignTammy outlines strategies for realigning one’s life and identity after betrayal. This phase is about setting boundaries, rediscovering self-worth, and creating a new vision for the future. It's a time for making conscious choices about what one wants their life to look like moving forward.Phase 4: RebuildIn the final phase, Tammy talks about rebuilding and thriving beyond the pain of betrayal. This phase highlights the journey towards regaining joy, strength, and a renewed sense of purpose. It's about constructing a life that reflects one's true values and aspirations.Conclusion: Tune in to this insightful episode as Tammy Gustafson breaks down her Four Phases of Healing After Betrayal. Laugh with us, learn from Tammy's profound wisdom, and take away practical tools to aid in your own healing journey. Subscribe to The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast for more empowering stories and expert guidance on recovery and transformation.Connect with Us:Visit our website: Watermark CoachFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoachingLearn more about Tammy's work: Betrayal HealingThank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes. 🌟Produced by: Kris RochaEdited by: Jeremy WaldrigeThis podcast is produced with the support of: www.purelifealliance.com
In this mind-shifting, insightful episode of The Betrayal Recovery Transformation Podcast, Jenn and I had the pleasure of hosting Dr. Jill Manning. Dr. Manning is warm, caring, knowledgeable, and passionate about helping women heal. Today, she shares her expertise on a topic she's passionate about ... the impact of snooping, especially in the context of betrayal trauma. Get your notebooks ready, friends. This episode is packed with excellent information, tools, and tips.About Dr. Jill Manning: Dr. Manning is a respected expert in the field of betrayal trauma. Her compassionate approach and wealth of knowledge demonstrate her dedication to helping women navigate their healing journeys.Key Points Discussed:Understanding Snooping: Dr. Manning explains snooping as an attempt to uncover information without direct confrontation. This can include searching through devices, reading personal journals, or hiring a private investigator.Why People Snoop: It is common for individuals to snoop when they suspect deception or betrayal. Dr. Manning discusses the underlying motivations and the short-term sense of empowerment that snooping can bring.Impact of Prolonged Snooping: The discussion covers the adverse effects of continued snooping, such as elevated stress levels, prolonged trauma symptoms, and increased mistrust of oneself and others.Effects on Relationships: Dr. Manning highlights how snooping can damage relationships by reinforcing indirect communication, decreasing safety and respect, and keeping the relationship stuck in a toxic cycle.Effective Strategies for Getting Information: Instead of snooping, Dr. Manning recommends focusing on self-care, setting effective boundaries, and using healthier methods to address suspicions and obtain information.A Compassionate Invitation to Stop Snooping: Dr. Manning invites listeners to stop snooping, emphasizing that it deteriorates mental health and complicates trauma healing over time. She encourages finding supportive steps to foster growth and healing without resorting to snooping.You can contact Dr. Jill Manning here:https://drjillmanning.comInsta: @drjillmanningTo receive Dr. Jill's FREE "The Impact of Snooping" handout, please email us at thebrtpodcast@gmail.com.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes and help others find the help and support they need. 🌟Coaching with Kris & Jenn: www.watermarkcoach.com www.healingwiththehowies.comFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching@healingwiththehowiesProduced by: Kris RochaEdited by: Jeremy WaldrigeThis podcast is produced with the support of: www.purelifealliance.com
Adrienne Friesen joins us on this episode about supporting a friend through trauma. She has been our friend for over 20 years and we can attest that she is naturally gifted at supporting and comforting friends during difficult and traumatic times in their lives. Today, she shares her wisdom and practical advice on how to be a steadfast friend during difficult times.Key Points Discussed:Active Listening: Adrienne emphasizes the importance of truly listening to your friends. It's not just about hearing their words but also about understanding their emotions and validating their experiences.Offering Encouragement Without Bypassing Reality: Adrienne discusses encouraging friends without minimizing their pain or trying to fix their problems quickly. Acknowledging the reality of their situation is crucial.Creating a Safe Space: Learn how to create an environment where your friend feels safe to express their true feelings without judgment.Helping Others Stay Connected: Adrienne discusses the significance of assisting friends to stay connected with their community and support systems, even when they feel isolated by their trauma.Offering Practical Help: Practical support can be incredibly beneficial. Adrienne shares examples of ways to provide tangible help without overstepping boundaries.Tune in to this episode for insightful tips and heartfelt advice on being a supportive friend to someone navigating the rough waters of trauma.Thank you for listening! Don't forget to subscribe, rate, and review our podcast to stay updated on future episodes. 🌟Coaching with Kris & Jenn: www.watermarkcoach.com www.healingwiththehowies.comFollow us on Instagram: @WatermarkCoaching@healingwiththehowiesProduced by: Kris Rocha Edited by: Dan HowieThis podcast is produced with the support of: www.purelifealliance.com
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