The Beyond Waste Podcast

New Welcome to The Beyond Waste Podcast with your host Lee Marshall, CIWM’s policy and external affairs director. Join us as we deep dive into the world of waste, resources, and the circular economy. In each episode, we’ll bring you insightful discussions with industry experts, thought leaders, and influential voices shaping the future of sustainability. Join us as we embark on a journey to create a more sustainable future by transforming waste into valuable resources.

Inside India’s Invisible Recycling Network

In this special Festival of Circular Economy episode, guest host Mark Shayler sits down with Siddharth Hande of Kabadiwalla Connect to explore one of the most overlooked forces in global sustainability—the informal waste supply chain. From the streets of Chennai to a data-driven map reshaping how waste is collected and processed, Siddharth shares how formalising waste picking isn’t just about better recycling—it’s about transforming livelihoods, empowering communities, and unlocking hidden value in the materials we throw away. Eye-opening, inspiring, and grounded in real-world impact, this conversation will change how you see waste forever.

08-12
47:08

What will the waste sector look like in ten years—and who will lead it?

What will the resource and waste sector look like in ten years—and who will lead it? In this episode of the Beyond Waste podcast, host Katie Cockburn, CIWM/CEI, is joined by Bonni Jee, ASPE, and Sarah Langmaid, University of Exeter, to unpack the future of work in an industry undergoing rapid transformation. From the rise of digitised logistics and data-driven decision-making to the emergence of new compliance and circular economy roles, we explore how the next generation of resource professionals can adapt, innovate, and thrive. Whether you’re already working in the sector or just curious about the careers shaping a sustainable future, this conversation offers practical insights and forward-thinking strategies to stay ahead of the curve. Tune in to discover how the skills of tomorrow are being built today.

07-22
43:08

A Vision for the Future: Meet CIWM’s New President

Lee Marshall, CIWM (host) Prof David Greenfield, CIWM/ CEI In this milestone episode of Beyond Waste, we sit down with Dr. David Greenfield for his first official podcast as President of CIWM. With decades of experience in resources, waste, and circular economy innovation, David shares his ambitions for the year ahead—and why now is the time for bold, joined-up action. We explore the key themes of his Presidential Report 2025, Lost Opportunities?, which calls for urgent change in how the UK captures value from overlooked materials like wool, lithium, and seafood shells. David outlines the need for cross-sector collaboration, smarter design, and policy alignment to transition from linear systems to a truly circular economy. If you're passionate about sustainability, circular thinking, or the future of resource management, this conversation is essential listening.

06-24
01:03:31

Tech Meets Trash: The AI Revolution in Resource Recovery

At the Festival of Circular Economy, host Mark Shayler sits down with Greyparrot Co-Founder Amrish Mitra to explore how cutting-edge AI is reshaping the future of waste. From teenage tech obsessions to launching ethically-driven companies, Amrish shares the journey that led him to the frontline of resource intelligence. This episode, sponsored by Greyparrot, dives into how technology can unlock efficiency, transparency, and resilience in the waste and recycling sector—and why that matters more than ever. Guest Host: Mark Shayler, APE Guest: Amrish Mitra, Co-founder, Greyparrot Waste Intelligence

06-09
52:32

Turning Off the Tap: Reflections from the CIWM President

In this special episode, outgoing CIWM President Tim Walker reflects on a pivotal year at the helm. From launching his presidential report Turning Off the Tap on Materials to representing CIWM at international events and connecting with members across the UK and Ireland, Tim shares key milestones, challenges, and hopes for the future of the sector.   Host: Lee Marshall (CIWM) Guest: Tim Walker (arc21 & CIWM President)

05-27
01:05:21

What will it really take to fund a circular economy in the UK?

In this episode, we dive into CIWM’s report on shaping financial and fiscal policy to support a circular future. From tax reform to targeted investment, we explore the tools policymakers and industry leaders need to drive real change. Joined by expert voices, we connect the dots between headline ambitions and the practical policies needed to get there — drawing on insights from other key reports and looking ahead to what’s next. Whether you're in policy, business, or just passionate about building a more sustainable future, this is your guide to the economic roadmap of circularity. Host: Lee Marshall, CIWM Guests: Susan Evans, Resource Futures Paula Chin, WWF - WWF Fast Phones report

05-13
01:09:33

Environmental Enemy No. 1: Is Plastic Really the Villain?

Plastics are often seen as sustainability’s public enemy number one, blamed for ocean pollution, microplastic contamination, and more. But is the story that simple? In this episode, we explore the controversial world of plastics—examining their bad reputation, the rise of innovative alternatives, and the often-overlooked benefits of this material. Join us as we dive into the debate: are plastics truly the villain we think they are, or could they have a place in a sustainable future if used wisely?  Host: Lee Marshall, CIWM  Guests: Tracy Sutton, Root  Cat Hay, FDF 

04-15
51:03

The Circular Avengers: Defra’s Circular Economy Taskforce Assembles!

Secure your place at this year's Resource Conference Cymru - https://shorturl.at/dBMSC In this episode of Beyond Waste, host Lee Marshall (CIWM) is joined by Robbie Staniforth (Ecosurety) and Simon Rutledge (Biffa) to dive into the launch of Defra’s Circular Economy Taskforce. What does this bold initiative mean for the UK's resource and waste sectors? And how can it drive tangible progress in circular economy strategies? Tune in as these expert voices discuss the taskforce's priorities, the critical role of resources and waste in a circular economy, and what’s needed to transform ambition into action. From actionable policies to long-term strategies, this is your guide to understanding how the taskforce could reshape the future.

01-28
01:03:22

No City Left Behind: The CE Revolution – Circular Cities Week Debrief

In this special episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, we dive into the global momentum behind Circular Cities Week (CCW) and explore how cities around the world are embracing the circular economy revolution. Join our expert panel as they share insights from events held in four dynamic cities: London & Brighton & Hove with Dr. David Greenfield (CIWM/CEI & CEC) Hong Kong with Harry Li (Asia Circular Economy Association / CEC Hong Kong) Boston with Eric Sargent (MBA Sustainability Candidate / CEC Boston) Our guests discuss: The events they hosted and key highlights from their respective regions The current phase of circular economy implementation within their cities Lessons learned, successes celebrated, and challenges faced during Circular Cities Week Discover what it takes to ensure no city is left behind in the circular economy revolution and gain practical insights into creating more sustainable urban environments. Whether you’re a city planner, policymaker, or a sustainability enthusiast, this is an episode you don’t want to miss!  

12-19
01:02:43

2024 in Review: A transformative year in the resource and waste sector

In this year-end wrap-up episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, host Lee Marshall is joined by Charlotte Davies, CIWM’s Early Careers President, to reflect on a transformative year in the resource and waste sector. From major policy developments like EPR, DRS, and the disposable vapes ban, to the impact of a new government and the launch of the Circular Economy Taskforce, we explore the stories that shaped 2024. Charlotte also shares her journey in the sector, and we look ahead to what’s on the horizon for the early careers team in 2025. Tune in for insights, reflections, and a forward look at the future of resources and waste.

12-17
54:29

The City Environment Debate on a Circular Economy: Key Takeaways and Next Steps

In this special episode of The Beyond Waste podcast, we’re diving into the pressing insights and actionable strategies from the recent Worshipful Company of Water Conservators debate, "Accelerating the Transition to a Circular Economy." Guest host Adam Reed (SUEZ) joins Allan Barton (Worshipful Company of Water Conservators) and Tim Walker (CIWM) to unpack the challenges and opportunities surrounding circularity on a global scale. In this episode, we discuss: The need to consume less and make products last longer Overcoming government and supply chain limitations Designers’ critical role in driving change Effective ways to engage younger audiences and spread the circular message Tune in for thought-provoking discussions and fresh perspectives from industry leaders.

11-27
50:38

CEweek2024 Special: Going Full Circle for Circular Value Chains

Join host Lee Marshall (CIWM) for this insightful episode, produced as part of ReLondon's Circular Economy Week (#CEweek2024). This time, we dive into the concept of circular value chains with an expert panel featuring Dr. David Greenfield (CIWM/CEI/etsaW), Maya de Souza (Circular Economy & Policy Expert), and Bert van Son (Founder of MUD Jeans). Together, they explore how to define a value chain and examine the critical roles organisations play in making these chains truly circular. The conversation delves into smarter strategies for reducing waste, keeping materials in the system longer, and reaping the economic benefits of a well-functioning circular value chain. The panel also shares actionable steps to kickstart the journey toward circularity and offers guidance on the essential questions to ask and the connections to build, ensuring that everyone in the chain adopts circular practices. Don't miss this opportunity to deepen your understanding of circular value chains and their potential to transform industries! Episode Stuff: Report: “An EPR of Everything, Starting with Batteries” Report: “Turning off the Tap: Why better design can increase resource resilience and reduce consumption” Discover more about the Circular Economy Institute here. Discover more about the Circular Economy Club here. Discover more about CIWM here.

10-04
51:40

Reviewing the Resource & Waste Strategy

In this episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, host Lee Marshall is joined by Patrick Mahone from CIWM's Policy & Innovation Forum. Together, they recap the key points of the UK’s Resource & Waste Strategy and delve into the origins of CIWM's 10 policy asks. Discover how these policy recommendations were shaped by the progress (and challenges) of implementing the strategy and what the future may hold under the new Labour government. Tune in for a deep dive into the latest developments in waste management and resource policy, and why these new policy asks are more important than ever.

09-24
55:35

Shaping a Resilient Future: Driving Behaviour Change for a Circular Economy

In this episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, host CIWM's Lee Marshall is joined by Steve Bates, Chair of CIWM's Behaviour Change Special Interest Group and Managing Director of Mobius Agency, along with Helen White, Vice Chair of the group and Senior Consultant at Tetra Tech. Together, they explore the evolution of behaviour change in waste management, from the rise of kerbside recycling in the 2000s to today’s focus on a circular economy. The discussion delves into the need for policy changes, food waste infrastructure, and the vital role of education and awareness in influencing people’s actions. The trio will also introduce the newly launched behaviour change hierarchy, grounded in the COM-B framework—examining how capability, opportunity, and motivation shape behaviour and can help build a more sustainable future.

09-05
58:38

An EPR for Everything, Starting with Batteries

In this episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, host Lee Marshall from CIWM is joined by John Twitchen of Stuff4Life to dive into Extended Producer Responsibility (EPR) and its expanding role in waste management. The discussion kicks off with a focus on batteries, examining the latest findings from CIWM's new report, An EPR for Everything, Starting with Batteries.  The conversation also broadens to explore the wider landscape of EPR, including the growing need for regulations around mattresses, textiles, packaging plastics, and WEEE (Waste Electrical and Electronic Equipment). How do we manage the hidden costs of cheap products and ensure real value in waste processing? And what are the downstream impacts we must consider? Tune in as we unpack the challenges and opportunities of creating a sustainable, circular economy through smarter EPR systems.

08-27
48:44

Post-General Election Action: Key Policies for a Circular Future

In this episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, sponsored by Romaquip, join us for a crucial discussion on the pivotal role of resource and waste led policies in shaping a sustainable future following the results of the UK’s general election. Host Lee Marshall from CIWM talks to guests: Jim Bligh of FDF; Cathy Cook representing LARAC; and Alice Rackley from Polytag, as they delve into the urgent need for effective governmental action post-General Election.  From advocating for the continuation of existing Resource and Waste Strategies to identifying quick policy wins such as EPR, DRS, and ambitious net-zero targets, our panellists offer insights into what's needed to propel circular practices forward.  Tune in to explore their predictions for the evolution of EPR and DRS policies in the UK and discover the innovative new measures our experts propose for a greener tomorrow. With special thanks to Romaquip for sponsoring this episode. www.romaquip.com

07-23
01:26:10

Election Special: CIWM's Blueprint for Resource Resilience

In this special election episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, we dive into CIWM's 10 policy asks for the newly elected government. Join us as Lee Marshall, Tina Benfield, Tim Walker, and Oliver Leuthart from CIWM break down the critical components of their manifesto. We'll explore what these policies mean from a governmental perspective, their significant impacts on resource management and waste reduction, and how they can help drive us toward a sustainable, resilient future. Don't miss this in-depth discussion on shaping a world beyond waste.

07-10
59:58

Hello, Tim Walker! – A Conversation with the New CIWM President

In this compelling episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, we sit down with the newly appointed CIWM President, Tim Walker. Join us as we delve into Tim's insightful background and career journey, exploring his current role and the experiences that have shaped his leadership in the waste management industry. Discover the vision behind his presidential theme and report, and learn why he chose this particular focus to steer the CIWM through the coming year. Tim also shares his aspirations for his presidential term, outlining the key initiatives and changes he hopes to implement to drive progress in sustainable waste management. Don't miss this insightful discussion with one of the industry's leading figures!

06-25
47:50

A Year of Transformation: Dan Cooke’s Presidential Farewell

In this special episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast, we bid farewell to CIWM President Dan Cooke as he reflects on a transformative year at the helm. Join us as Dan recaps the highlights of his presidential report, celebrating key milestones from his tenure. From groundbreaking initiatives to celebrating CIWM's 125th anniversary, Dan shares his successes and challenges. We'll delve into the innovative Circular Economy Innovation Fund and discuss Dan’s optimistic vision for the future of the sector. Tune in for an inspiring conversation that looks back on a year of progress and forward to a future of continued innovation and sustainability.

06-11
45:32

SRF and the Path to a Circular Economy

Join us in this enlightening episode of the Beyond Waste Podcast as we delve into the transformative potential of Solid Recovered Fuel (SRF) with Dr. Stephen Wise from Advetec. Drawing insights from Advetec's pivotal whitepaper, "SRF and the Path to a Circular Economy," we explore the intricacies of current waste management infrastructures and their evolution towards sustainability. Discover how emerging technologies are paving the way for innovative waste stream solutions, and learn about the pivotal role we play in supplying materials and solutions for a circular economy. Dr. Wise sheds light on the critical steps necessary for advancing consumer behaviour and cultural perspectives towards a more sustainable future. Tune in to understand the opportunities and challenges in achieving a circular economy and how SRF can be a key driver in this crucial transition. Don't miss this deep dive into the future of waste management and sustainability! Download the whitepaper here.

05-28
44:40

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