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The Bilateral is designed to shed light on issues of interest to the Canada-China business community, to highlight some of the interesting work CCBC’s members are doing, and to help our Canadian audience better understand what is happening in China today from a business perspective.
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In this episode of The Bilateral, we hear from Paul Moysiuk, founder of Moxiu Law. Mr. Moysiuk is a Shanghai-based Canadian lawyer who specializes in helping international clients establish, operate, and grow their businesses in China. Moxiu Law was the Gold Award winner in the Services category at CCBC’s 8th Business Excellence Awards in 2022. With the 9th Business Excellence Awards approaching, we wanted to highlight Moxiu Law as a notable recipient from the previous round. Mr. Moysiuk sha...
In this episode of The Bilateral, we hear from Stuart Mercier, former Managing Partner of Strategic Initiatives, Real Estate at Brookfield Asset Management and a member of the CCBC Board of Directors. Brookfield was a Gold Award winner in the sustainability category at CCBC’s 8th Business Excellence Awards in 2022. With the nomination process for the 9th Business Excellence Awards now open, we wanted to highlight Brookfield as a notable recipient from the previous round. In this insightful c...
In this episode of The Bilateral, we explore cognitive empathy — understanding how the other side thinks — in Canada-China business relations. We've seen how strained bilateral relations and limited government interactions have led to misunderstandings. Western media can often portray a one-sided view of China, missing the nuances necessary for a full understanding. Our focus in this episode is on building a deeper understanding and appreciation of another's perspective and feelings. We we...
In this second episode of a two-part series exploring the intricacies of intellectual property (IP) protection amidst China's evolving digital landscape, we hear from Brent Arnold, Partner, at Gowling WLG. Brent will provide an overview of new data protection laws and regulations, and highlight several case studies on data ownership and transfer. If you missed it, we recommend you listen to our previous episode for Part 1 on IP protection and registration in China with Jason Yang, Asso...
In this first episode of a two-part series exploring the intricacies of intellectual property (IP) protection amidst China's evolving digital landscape, we hear from Jason Yang, Associate, Patent Agent, at Gowling WLG. Jason will guide us through the nuances of trademark registration, offer strategic insights into patent protection, and share a few case studies on enforcement and litigation. Tune into Part 2 of this discussion, slated for release mid-May, where we'll further examine Ch...
Welcome back, Bilateral listeners! Get ready for Season 2 of The Bilateral with Sarah Kutulakos and our new co-host, David Perez-Des Rosiers. David is moving from Quebec, Canada, to Beijing, China, next week and we're looking forward to his firsthand perspective on China's dynamic landscape. And with David as our resident CCBC Francophone, we're delighted to announce we'll be offering more French episodes this season. Tune in to discover the exciting topics we'll cover this season. Keep up...
The Bilateral is proud to present its first-ever podcast episode in French. We are excited to welcome Vivian Desmonts, a Partner at Gowling WLG, who joins us from Guangzhou to discuss his extensive experience as a lawyer in China spanning over two decades. In this episode, Vivian covers a wide range of topics, starting with an update on the COVID situation in China and briefly compares the response of North American and European businesses to China’s post-pandemic reopening. The conversation...
The Bilateral is delighted to welcome Jacob Cooke, Co-Founder and CEO of WPIC Marketing + Technologies, who joins us in Beijing to discuss his nearly 20 years as an entrepreneur in China. WPIC won Gold in the Exceptional SME category. Jacob and his organization have grown from a fledgling tech startup in China to serving major multinationals from around the world with their in-house expertise and native big data analytics for China’s e-commerce landscape. In this wide-ranging talk, he discu...
Our next episode in the awards miniseries is with Tianpeng WANG, Founder of Trustiics RealTime Global Counsel, Silver winner in the Exceptional SME category. Trustiics, which is kind of like Uber for legal services, helps SMEs affordably navigate legal services. Trustiics works as a one-stop solution for SMEs to get connected with trusted lawyers in China and other overseas markets. It is the world’s first online platform connecting international businesses with pre-vetted English-speaking la...
The latest in our awards miniseries is Bright Mega Capital Corporation, Bronze winner in the Outstanding Member category. This episode features Sarah’s conversation with Bright Mega’s president, Toronto-based Bernard HE Jun, who describes the unique role Bright Mega plays in delivering Canadian products into the hands of China’s middle class consumers. Key takeaways from Bernard: There is a big demand for products from Canadian SMEs, and Bright Mega provides “strength in numbers” by combini...
China is on a globally unprecedented mission: to green its economy, to broadly increase quality of life for its citizens, and to create a sophisticated, fair and modern market for business. At the macro level, these goals would inspire increased confidence from most foreign executives seeking to trade and invest in this complex landscape – but what are the on-the-ground commercial implications for companies operating in these shifting tides? CCBC and PwC China have co-authored a report which...
To wrap up our three-part miniseries on the 14th Five-Year Plan, CCBC Managing Director China Noah Fraser interviews his counterparts at the US-China Business Council (USCBC) and China Britain Business Council (CBBC) — Matt Margulies, Senior Vice President, China, USCBC, and Tom Simpson, Managing Director and Chief Representative, CBBC — on the eve of the conclusion of the Two Sessions or “lianghui.” The conversation dives into the parallels and divergences between our three bilateral relatio...
Next in our awards miniseries is Viva Naturals, Silver winner in the Outstanding Member category. This episode features Sarah Kutulakos’ conversation with Candice Yin, who handles China e-commerce for Viva Naturals, a Toronto-based provider of vitamins, supplements, and wellness products. Viva was established in 2011 and started exporting to China via cross-border e-commerce in 2017. The company’s growth has been amazing. Key takeaways from Candice: A successful Chinese e-commerce strategy c...
Next in our Business Excellence Awards miniseries is Canada Goose, Gold winner in the Outstanding Member category. This episode features a conversation between CCBC Vice Chair Scott Brison and Dani Reiss, President and CEO of Canada Goose, at CCBC’s AGM Business Forum in the fall of 2021. Scott and Dani cover a variety of interesting topics, including: Canada Goose’s Human Nature initiative and its mission to “keep the planet cold and the people on it warm.” The December 2018 opening of...
Radley Mackenzie is the founder of SinoSports Development in Toronto, which received the Bronze Award in the education category at CCBC’s 2020 Business Excellence Awards. SinoSports combines education and sports, arranging camps, coaching, and recruitment of Chinese athletes to Canadian private schools. Key takeaways from Radley: Sports help Chinese kids to be more well-rounded, something the traditional Chinese education system lacks.Drivers of sports development in China includ...
Cyndi McLeod, CEO, Canada, for Global University Systems, was CCBC’s 5 at 50 winner in the Alumni category. Cyndi is an expert in strategic international partnerships and international education, and she has worked in both public and private education. Cyndi started engaging in China early, leading the way in British Columbia’s international education efforts back in 1999. Highlights from Sarah’s conversation with Cyndi: • Among her favourite exchange programs: training of Chinese respirato...
Joe Ng, Founder and Chairman of The JNE Group of Companies, is a winner in CCBC’s 5 at 50 Entrepreneurs category. He founded Joe Ng Engineering in 1980, offering engineering design and consulting services to large steel companies in North America. When the steel industry went into a rut during the 1982 recession, he had to look elsewhere for business and explored China’s potential. Key takeaways from Joe: • His 1982 visit to China was a small step that ballooned into three 10-year expansion...
Ron Ball is a winner in CCBC’s 5 at 50 Entrepreneurs category. Now retired, Ron founded the Escalator Handrail Company, later renamed EHC Global, in 1977 in Oshawa, ON, with only one employee, and his success sets a great example of how dedication and commitment can contribute to the Canada-China relationship. In 2018, Ron became one of the few Canadians to receive the prestigious Shanghai Municipal Government Magnolia Silver Award. Highlights from Sarah’s conversation with Ron: • Any...
Jennifer Fang, Managing Partner, Highnoon Capital & Consulting Inc, is CCBC’s 5 at 50 winner in the Immigrant category. Jennifer has long and deep business experience helping multinationals in China (GM, JP Morgan & Chase, BMO, PwC), and has devoted her career to facilitating the two-way capital, people and business collaborations between Canada and China. Key takeaways from Sarah’s conversation with Jennifer: Early exposure to Canada as a student in China had a big impact on Jennifer...
Hon. Jack Austin is the Lifetime Achievement Award winner in CCBC’s 5 at 50 initiative. Jack’s nomination describes him as “likely the longest serving person in both public and private life in building Canada’s modern relationship to China,” active in one or more capacities from 1970 to the present time. He has done so in four different domains: diplomacy and government, legal practice, corporate leadership, and academic leadership. Key takeaways from Jack: The impetus for Canada’s rec...
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