The Bioinformatics and Beyond Podcast

Hear from the leading experts in bioinformatics and other closely related fields. Topics discussed include computational biology, biotechnology, computer science, genetics, synthetic biology, math, statistics, and more. You can also find discussions on topics related to the scientific career field. For example, exploring career path options in science, or highlighting important skill sets such as writing and public speaking.

Dr. Justin Siegel: Enzyme Design, Large-scale Mutant Generation, and Cloud Labs

Dr. Justin Siegel begins this episode by explaining what enzymes are, how they have evolved, and why Dr. Siegel is motivated to try to engineer enzymes to perform functions tailored to help humanity instead of to perform functions based on how they evolved in nature. He explains the primary goal of the work discussed and relating enzyme sequence to function. Dr. Siegel also explains how his work was the first of its kind by scaling up enzyme design to hundreds of mutants instead of dozens.  We then dig into the details of Dr. Siegel’s work. We learn details of his study such as why his team chose to study the particular enzyme that was used to create a massive set of enzyme mutants. We hear the previous difficulty of doing a study like this on only one enzyme and what enabled this increase in the scale of enzyme design. We also hear about how the use of cloud labs was introduced into the project and why.  Next, we hear all about the cloud lab aspect of this project. Dr. Siegel explains which parts of the enzyme mutant creation process were most challenging and benefited most to be moved to cloud labs.  Finally, we learn about how machine learning was then applied to the large set of generated enzyme mutants. Dr. Siegel explains how the generated data allowed his team to test previous hypotheses about mutant enzymes and to start trying to predict the functions of enzymes from sequence. Dr. Siegel also comments on a finding of the paper that for highly conserved residues, if you change them, you lose the function.  Learn more about Dr. Siegel’s work by reading the corresponding publication which you can find here: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0147596

10-23
22:01

Dr. Justin Siegel: Lab Automation, Cloud Labs, and the Future of the Wet Lab

Dr. Justin Siegel explains the past, present, and future of wet lab work and wet lab automation. We start by hearing a description of what it is like to work in a wet lab, covering the contrast between the excitement of seeing life changing results and the countless hours of monotony that is often involved to produce these results.  We then begin discussing where automation will fit in to help alleviate the burden of long term monotonous work in the wet lab. We learn about the challenges of implementing automation in a lab, and hear about the dream that exists from the promise of automation versus the reality of implementing automation in an actual academic lab or in industry. We also hear Dr. Siegel’s take on the current state of implementing automation in an actual lab right now. We hear about the intricacies of implementing automation, such as discussing the pros and cons of different types of brands of robots, hearing about how lab robots can end up sitting unutilized or underutilized in academic labs, and considering practical questions that are involved when implementing automation. We end our discussion of robots that could be purchased with a discussion on Opentrons.   Finally, we discuss cloud labs. Dr. Siegel starts by explaining what cloud labs are. Then, we hear about how a scientist would actually go about utilizing a cloud lab service. Dr. Siegel shares his thoughts on the potential promise of cloud labs and gives justification for the excitement surrounding this new approach. Dr. Siegel also shares his personal experience using cloud labs and how things like the accuracy and reliability of cloud labs can already make it a viable option for automating academic lab tasks. He also explains an unintended benefit of using cloud labs in that it allows researchers to spend more time thinking critically about the tasks that need to be done and how they will be done.

10-09
33:25

Dr. Afshin Beheshti: MicroRNAs and COVID-19

Dr. Afshin Beheshti begins this episode by explaining what microRNAs are and why they are emerging as an important area of biological research. He then explains how microRNAs relate to viruses, which is a recently developing area of research in this already young field of study. Dr. Beheshti then tells the story of how he started to discover that microRNAs could be a driver of COVID-19 infections.  His story begins by using microRNA analysis tools to analyze COVID-19 infected patients from China which predicted a handful of microRNAs that could be involved in COVID-19 infection. He discusses how his team decided to focus on microRNA 2392 and how he continued to dig further into how it could be connected to COVID-19. His story then weaves through tales of successful collaborations with a large team of scientists that led to studying RNA samples from deceased COVID-19 patients, testing expressing the microRNA in healthy cells, analyzing multiple organs in COVID-19 infections, and testing a delivery system for a microRNA antagonist as a potential novel therapeutic. We conclude with a quick discussion of the connection between microRNAs and space biology and space omics research. Learn more about this work by checking out Dr. Beheshti's preprint on these topics: https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.23.441024v4.abstract

09-11
29:21

Dr. Afshin Beheshti: The Hazards and Molecular Features of Spaceflight

This episode concludes the podcast’s series of episodes focused on space biology and space omics. NASA scientist Dr. Afshin Beheshti discusses the many high level hazards and corresponding molecular features of spaceflight throughout this episode. For instance, we begin with a discussion of the hazards of radiation and microgravity. Dr. Beheshti spends time explaining a high level view of what each hazard is, why it is a concern for spaceflight, and educates us on many useful and interesting pieces of information for each hazard. Further hazards discussed include confinement and isolation, hostile and closed environment, and distance from Earth. After learning about all the high level hazards of extended living in space, we learn about how these hazards cause issues to human health through a series of lower level biological features. Dr. Beheshti again explains what these fundamental molecular features are, what techniques we have to study them, and ways we could overcome these problematic processes. These problematic molecular features include oxidative stress, DNA damage, mitochondrial damage, epigenetic and gene regulation changes, telomere-length dynamics, and microbiome shifts.  We end by discussing how we can simulate and study the negative effects of space here on Earth and the future of spaceflight biology research. Dr. Beheshti explain how studies like "bed studies" and mountain climber studies can help simulate impacts on human health in space. Finally, I ask Dr. Beheshti for his view of the future. He explains NASA's surveys that can guide research and how omics research was identified as a future focus. We conclude with a discussion on the plan for Mars exploration and habitation. For additional reading on this topic, check out Dr. Beheshti's recent Cell review: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0092867420314574

08-28
48:51

Dr. Tejaswini Mishra: Wearables Detect Pre-symptomatic COVID-19

This episode discusses Dr. Tejaswini Mishra’s recent publication in Nature Biomedical Engineering: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41551-020-00640-6 Dr. Mishra begins the episode by explaining the origin story of this work and how the idea for this paper came to be. She then explains how this study enrolled thousands of participants and used the participants’ smartwatch or wearable device data to detect COVID-19 infections.  After explaining how this study began, Dr. Mishra discusses how she and her team came up with two main algorithms for detecting COVID-19 infections from wearables data. Dr. Mishra also discusses the many variables that could be monitored with wearables in addition to standard measures used for predicting illnesses like heart rate.  Finally, we hear about the main results of this study including the successful detection of several active COVID-19 infections in study participants. We also hear a comparison of this work against the COVID-19 wearables study featured previously on the podcast. We end by hearing Dr. Mishra’s thoughts on the future of wearables for detecting infectious diseases and for improving human health in general.

08-14
28:54

Dr. Tejaswini Mishra: The NASA Twins Study

This episode continues our series of episodes on space biology and #SpaceOmics with Dr. Tejaswini Mishra. Dr. Mishra introduces The NASA Twins Study, a cornerstone scientific work where two twin astronauts were monitored, with one twin traveling to space, and one staying on earth. Dr. Mishra explains the importance of studying long term spaceflight missions, how The NASA Twins Study was set up in a particularly great way to study spaceflight impact, the many different types of data collected and analyzed, and some of the results found by the study. During the episode, Dr. Mishra explains many of the types of data collected such as microbiome and telomere data. After covering the types of data, we explore some of the main results such as the first ever test of a vaccination in space. Dr. Mishra then explains more in depth on changes seen during spaceflight such as telomere length, gene expression, DNA damage, cognitive function, and more. We discuss how concerning the various changes that occur in space could be for astronauts, such as becoming hypoxic. Dr. Mishra also explains pointers to the kinds of things we should focus on when we go deeper into space for understanding the impact on the human body. Finally, we summarize the main messages of the paper and hear Dr. Mishra’s thoughts on the future of space research.  The NASA Twins Study can be found at: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6436/eaau8650

07-31
29:12

Wet Lab / Dry Lab Transitioning with Dr. Willian da Silveira

For people who work in the life sciences, a very common occurrence is for folks who work on the "wet" side of research, largely doing bench work, to become interested in or start wanting to transition to doing more "dry" research, like computational research in bioinformatics. In this special episode, dedicated to those thinking about transitioning from "wet" lab work to doing more "dry" lab type work, my guest Dr. Willian da Silveira explains his own transition from a full bench scientist to a full time bioinformatician. Dr. da Silveira also answers many questions from the bioinformatics subreddit on this topic. Following Dr. da Silveira's explanation of his career trajectory and his own shift from "wet" lab work to "dry" lab work, I ask a series of questions from the bioinformatics subreddit seen below, with time stamps included: [19:00] Bioinformatics subreddit questions begin. [20:00] What general stats and technical requisites are necessary to transition from wet lab to dry lab work? [23:30] Is it boring to only do data analysis versus conducting lab experiments? [27:50] Should you transition early, for example during a masters or PhD program, or can it be done later? [33:30] Does the transition need to be forced or does it happen more often by chance? [35:10] Is there a downside to being self-taught as a bioinformatician? [36:20] What are the upsides of picking up bioinformatics later on, starting as a wet lab scientist first? [40:25] How to get accepted into a bioinformatics PhD program with no formal CS education? [42:07] What about dry lab to wet lab transitioning? [48:07] How do you get your foot in the door when switching from the wet lab to a dry lab with little or no dry lab experience on your CV? [50:45] If you do feel stuck, would the best route be to go ahead and pick up some formal education like a paid masters degree? [52:48] Would it make sense to transition to dry lab work given employment and financial considerations? Finally, to end the discussion, I ask Willian what he thinks the ideal mix of wet lab and dry lab experience might look like.

07-17
01:02:04

Dr. Willian da Silveira: The Mitochondria as a Central Hub for Spaceflight Impact

In this episode we begin discussing the biology of spaceflight with Dr. Willian da Silveira. We start by hearing the story of how Dr. da Silveira's recent high profile space omics paper (https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)31461-6.pdf) came to be. He first describes the NASA GeneLab and how he got involved, and how his story of this paper began with an analysis of some liver transcriptomics data. We hear about all the different types of data used in this study, including epigenetics and metabolomics data. Dr. da Silveira discusses how to try to incorporate and work with this many types of data all at the same time. He then further elaborates and explains data like epigenetics and metabolomics.  After discussing all the different types of data, and how to try to analyze all the data together, Dr. da Silveira talks more about the biological side of some of the data, for instance discussing rodent data and human cell lines. Finally, we discuss the results of his paper and how all the data analysis point to a central hub of the impact of spaceflight, with mitochondrial stress acting as this central hub. We conclude with a discussion of the principal risks to humans when they go to space and what Dr. da Silveira sees coming for the future of space omics research. Link to Dr. da Silveira's recent publication: https://www.cell.com/cell/pdf/S0092-8674(20)31461-6.pdf Link to spaceflight impact review paper mentioned: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33242416/

07-03
47:19

Dr. Hayden Metsky: ADAPT for Large-scale Viral Detection

Dr. Hayden Metsky begins by introducing the ADAPT method for doing large-scale detection of viruses. ADAPT is a computational method that aids the design of CRISPR-based viral testing. He then discusses the motivation for ADAPT and how it relates to his previous works like CATCH. In comparing ADAPT to other work, Dr. Metsky discusses, for instance, differences between CRISPR-based testing and more traditional testing like qPCR. In discussing the challenges of designing diagnostic tests and detection assays, Dr. Metsky then describes how he breaks these challenges into three different components.  Dr. Metsky goes on to talk about how they designed an assay based around the Cas13 enzyme. He describes how they used this approach for targeting viruses and explains how they designed a large-scale library of 20,000 pairs of target viral sequences and guide RNAs. He then explains how they used this library as training data for a machine learning model. He also explains his thought process of designing and training the convolutional neural network model that they ended up using for predicting how well the guide RNAs would work.  As our conversation continues, Dr. Metsky points out an interesting observation that his team made while working on this project. He points out that it could be the case that it may not be best to only design diagnostics around a highly or universally conserved region. He explains that taking into account other considerations, like how well the diagnostic technology works for a particular target sequence, may produce even better results. He also points out how it can be really challenging to only consider the highly conserved or totally conserved regions because those regions are going to be the most likely to be shared by other viruses or organisms which induce false positives in tests. Dr. Metsky explains his thought process for how you take a problem like this, figure out the characteristics of the problem, and match it well to a closely related problem or other scientific works, explaining the process of figuring out how to optimize the final objective function in ADAPT. Final topics include a discussion on the speed of ADAPT and the availability of the software.  To learn more about ADAPT, you can read the ADAPT manuscript at https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.28.401877v2 or visit the software page at https://github.com/broadinstitute/adapt

06-19
37:08

Dr. Hayden Metsky: Computational Methods for Viral Diagnostics, CRISPR-based Tests, CATCH, and More

Dr. Hayden Metsky begins the episode by describing his goal of being able to harness sequenced viral genomes to computationally design diagnostics, therapies, and vaccines. He discusses the value of having methods available that can handle all available genomic data for diverse species for diagnostics and therapies. Next, we learn how CRISPR can be used in a diagnostics setting. Dr. Metsky explains how collateral cleavage broadens the use of CRISPR beyond simply being a tool for genome editing. Advantages and disadvantages of CRISPR-based diagnostics techniques are discussed versus, for example, a more traditional qPCR approach. The discussion then moves on to the computational component of the diagnostics design problem. Dr. Metsky discusses his 2019 Nature Biotechnology paper on the CATCH method for use in hybridization capture and his progression of work in this area (see https://www.nature.com/articles/s41587-018-0006-x). Finally, we discuss his work in designing diagnostics for SARS-CoV-2, CRISPR-based tests being able to gain widespread adoption, and expanding this work beyond viruses to include bacteria as well.

06-05
33:38

Environmental Applications of Synthetic Biology

In this episode we focus on the applications side of synthetic biology for the environmental sciences and environmental microbiology with Dr. Ilenne Del Valle and Emm Fulk. To start, we walk through the more classical omics approaches for understanding environmental microbiology, setting us up for newer synthetic biology approaches. We then discuss the main questions in environmental microbiology that synbio is well suited to help answer. We discuss a few specific problems such as quorum sensing. We learn about what quorum sensing is and how synthetic biology can be used to help understand it. Next we discuss how a researcher would conduct an environmental microbiology study using synthetic biology. We also briefly discuss ethical considerations for these topics, such as the ethics of releasing synthetically modified organisms into the environment as part of a study. This leads to an introduction on cell free sensors as yet another strategy for performing this type of work. We then hear about horizontal gene transfer as another phenomenon that synthetic biology can be used to better understand. We end with a discussion on cryptic processes that occur in microbial communities, how synthetic biology could allow for measuring these processes, and the overall role my guests see for synthetic biology in the future. For more on these topics, see Dr. Ilenne Del Valle and Emm Fulk's recent publication: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2020.618373/full

05-22
30:45

Synthetic Biology Intro and Biosensors

Dr. Ilenne Del Valle and Emm Fulk introduce the topic of synthetic biology in this episode. I start by asking, "What is synthetic biology?" We then begin digging into some of the intricacies of synthetic biology by learning about biosensors; biosensors are a fundamental component of synthetic biology for translating environmental inputs and outputs. We next talk about all the different molecules that biosensors can sense that we could use for various applications.  Our conversation continues with introductions to many additional aspects of synthetic biology. We introduce and discuss synthetic biology circuit diagrams, which is another interesting area where the computational sciences and biological sciences converge. We next introduce CRISPR-based biosensors, synbio AND gates, and other logical operations that can used in the synthetic biology world. Finally, we discuss reporters. We introduce and cover several types of reporters and how they can help indicate which inputs are present. We end with a discussion of how synthetic biology components can be tuned to work even better, and the role bioinformatics can play in the world of synthetic biology. This episode covers the review that both guests cowrote, that can be found here for further reading: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2020.618373/full

05-08
40:40

Dr. Kyle Frischkorn: Transcriptomics vs. Proteomics

Dr. Kyle Frischkorn explains the interplay between different sample analysis methods such as transcriptomics and proteomics. He starts by explaining some of the basics of both transcriptomics and proteomics and gives a refresher on the central dogma. This explanation covers aspects of these methods such as a high level description of what they are, how they work, and what data you get from them. He also mentions more detailed considerations such as difficulties with mapping RNA back to genomes, the power of transcriptomes and metatranscriptomes, and different types of RNA sequencing that can be performed.  We then move on to discuss Dr. Frischkorn's recent oceanography study. He starts by explaining the motivation behind this study. He explains the importance of understanding oceanography and the role of the ocean as a primary source for all chemistry that takes place on the planet, how the fixation of nitrogen is such an important part of the planet's chemistry, and how there are very few organisms that are able to turn nitrogen gas, which is highly abundant in the atmosphere, into biologically available nitrogen. He explains a further motivation which was to help resolve some of the unknown regarding if it is better to look at, for instance, transcriptomics or proteomics to perform these kinds of studies. We learn about how transcription and the presence of proteins might not necessarily always be totally correlated with one another. Finally, we do a deeper dive into the methodology of the study and learn how the study was performed, and conclude with some of the results and conclusions of what was found. We hear about the harmony and discord between transcriptomics and proteomics, and the "choreography" of the "dance" between these two methods. Dr. Frischkorn also explains a final, third piece of data that can be gathered, which is enzyme activity assays. The study discussed can be found at https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fmicb.2019.00330/full

04-24
33:03

Dr. Kyle Frischkorn: How to Publish in Nature

In this episode, we attempt to take a look behind the machine of science with Nature Communications senior editor Dr. Kyle Frischkorn. We begin by simply asking the question, "How do you publish in Nature?" Dr. Frischkorn breaks down several of the main hurdles to getting published in Nature. These include having striking findings in the actual research and picking the right venue from within the Nature portfolio. We learn about different aspects that could potentially help or hurt your chances and where they fit into the publishing process. Topics include having a relationship with an editor, writing a cover letter, and working in a current hot topic of science. Dr. Frischkorn gives his thoughts on how an author might decide to submit to Nature, open access, and about the advantages and any potential disadvantages of publishing in Nature. Finally, we briefly discuss life as an editor. 

04-17
28:46

Dr. Leor Weinberger: Overcoming the HIV Therapy Mismatch

Dr. Leor Weinberger begins this episode by talking about his motivation for developing a novel therapy for HIV. He explains the fundamental mismatch between the mutation and transmission of the disease and how our therapies work, which inspired him to take a novel approach to try and combat the disease.  We discuss topics such as the potential for scientists to give up on an HIV vaccine and why it seems like there are no good general antiviral drugs. To lead up to discussing Dr. Weinberger's new therapy, we hear a bit about the history of HIV therapeutics. After walking us through this history, culminating with the development and widespread adoption of the modern day drug cocktails for HIV patients, Dr. Weinberger introduces us to a fundamentally new type of therapy he has been working on to overcome previous barriers. He explains some of the origins of this new approach and explains how this approach is based on molecular parasites that steal resources from the virus.  This new approach, which Dr. Weinberger refers to as therapeutic interfering particles, uses defective particles that function not by poisoning the virus but by stealing from the virus. He then explains how this approach overcomes the fundamental mismatch between HIV and HIV therapies. We hear some of the story of the long road from the initial idea for this work to the status of the therapy today. Dr. Weinberger also explains a sort of happy accident that happened in a petri dish that may have enabled this research to finally move forward. Finally, we spend some time on the lower level mechanisms of how this therapy works, such as how you could deliver this treatment into a patient. We also talk about safety and the potential for public hesitancy. We conclude with a mention about the potential for this type of approach to be used for COVID-19 therapy. Watch Dr. Weinberger's TED Talk on this topic at https://www.ted.com/talks/leor_weinberger_can_we_create_vaccines_that_mutate_and_spread?language=en

04-10
27:19

Dr. Leor Weinberger: HIV vs. COVID Vaccination

This episode begins by asking the question, "Why is it that we don't have an HIV vaccine after 40 years, but we do have a COVID-19 vaccine after one year?" Dr. Leor Weinberger explains that the answer to this question is primarily due to the existence (or lack thereof) of natural convalescents and whether the immune system is able to beat the virus. Dr. Weinberger further explains that there have only been two "recovered" people who had HIV. These two recoveries happened through bone marrow transplants, which themselves have 50 percent survival rates. Next, Dr. Weinberger gives a history of HIV vaccine development. Then, we drill down into the specifics of why HIV has been so challenging to develop a vaccine for. Dr. Weinberger explains the role of mutation as a primary source of this difficulty, coupled with the fact that HIV inserts itself into your genome and is able to persist in the body for decades, leading to no natural convalescents.  To conclude, we hear Dr. Weinberger's thoughts on COVID-19 vaccine specifics such as how long COVID-19 may stay with us, if we may have to get additional vaccines, and how the persistence of antibody levels factors into these considerations. We end with a discussion on the mechanisms of the COVID-19 vaccines that have been developed. For those interested, a great resource for further reading on the bioinformatics of COVID-19 vaccine mRNA can be found at https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/reverse-engineering-source-code-of-the-biontech-pfizer-vaccine/

04-03
35:44

Dr. Sabrina Green: Clinical Use of Phages

In this episode, Dr. Sabrina Green discusses the clinical aspects of phage use. We start by going back to one of the first ever uses of phage for a bacterial infection before discussing how phages are used now. Dr. Green explains a wide range of details related to clinical phage use. Topics discussed include cases today where phages are used, the safety of phages for clinical use, regulatory considerations for phage therapies, the pros and cons of phages, how specific phages are matched to specific patients, and phage affordability. Dr. Green describes potential hurdles for widespread adoption such as convincing people that viruses can be good for you. For further reading see https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/phage.2020.0007 and https://mbio.asm.org/content/12/1/e03474-20

03-27
29:08

Dr. Sabrina Green: Phages and Phage Discovery

Dr. Sabrina Green introduces the concepts of phages and phage therapy. She describes what phages are and gives us a bit of history on phage therapy, describing reasons why antibiotics were widely adopted despite phages being discovered first. She also discusses why phages have become so important in the light of emerging antibiotic resistant pathogens. Dr. Green explains the mechanisms of how phages work and how these mechanisms lend themselves well to, for instance, scaling to different types of infections and getting cleared from a person’s system. Finally, we discuss how phages are discovered, such as through evolving phages and engineering phages. We learn about a specific paper Dr. Green authored involving finding novel phages from bird droppings. Finally, we discuss potential areas for bioinformatics contributions in the field of phages. Papers referenced include https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/phage.2020.0007 and https://mbio.asm.org/content/12/1/e03474-20

03-20
26:20

Predicting COVID-19 with Wearables

Dr. Zahi Fayad and Dr. Robert Hirten return to continue their discussion on wearable technology. This episode revolves around the study Dr. Fayad and Dr. Hirten performed to find out if wearable devices can identify and predict COVID-19. They discuss some of the struggles they had being “largely restricted in the data they could collect”. Their findings have the potential to be ground-breaking and showed “there are significant changes in your heart rate variability over 24 hours, which allows us to diagnose someone 7 days before a nasal swab”. To finish the episode, they discuss the potential to expand the study in the future, stating “The more you make these available to the researchers, the more helpful they will be to the healthcare biomedical research community”. Read more about their study at https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.11.06.20226803v1.full-text

03-13
27:19

Wearables with Dr. Zahi Fayad and Dr. Robert Hirten

Dr. Zahi Fayad and Dr. Robert Hirten discuss all things wearable technology. Throughout the episode we learn about the exciting potential of this technology for conducting health studies and for the general wellbeing of the population. Dr. Fayad and Dr. Hirten explain what wearables do for athletes and for the general health of the public, even predicting “there is a market for the future for scaling it up and making it bespoke”. Dr. Fayad explains why he utilises many different wearables all at once, stating “I am competing against myself, it helps me stay motivated and helps me compete against myself everyday” when exercising. They then share their excitement with us on the future of wearables in human health. Finally, they finish off with a discussion on the uses of wearables in studies for such things as early heart attack warnings and COVID detection, with “almost all of them adding to their app the option to join a (COVID) study”. Dr. Fayad and Dr. Hirten will be returning in the next episode to discuss the exciting COVID-19 wearables work they’ve been doing!

03-06
26:23

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