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A self learning Podcast to enable you to do what love, everyday and make a living out of it. Stories of path breakers who quit what they did not enjoy to do what they love and now make a living out it. At the break School, we don't seek hyperbolic inspiration or grandiose vision. Neither is the goal to make you the next billionaire. Here, We ask mundane questions to seek information about tools, processes, habit and communities that could enable each one of us move out professions we don't like and lead a fulfilling life by doing what we love, Everyday!
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Author, Podcaster, Polyglot and Self Taught Coder Denis Murphy talks about Self Education, Self awareness and Benefits of having side Projects along with a full time job.  Questions from the Episode You studied Business and French. How did you Pivot towards Coding and Technology? (02:02)Why did you earlier believe that you could not be good at Technology? (05:52)Why did you learn to code yourself? (08:36)What problems do you see with University Driven Education System? (14:13)How do you find peers when you are learning something yourself? (21:12)How did teaching while you were learning help you refine your own learning? (24:20)You were coding, learning languages and writing blogs. Why did you start a podcast? (32:08)Most of us afraid of being ridiculed while creating anything new. Do you think people really care when trying something new? (33:09)What problems do you see with the self help world? (38:48)You have completed 115 episodes from your podcast without monetizing it. What keeps you going?(42:57)What kind of side projects have you tried over the years and how have they helped you? (52:21)How can having side projects along with a job help? (58:28)3 big take-Aways (01:14:13)3 Big take aways from the Episode Self Education doesn't mean doing everything yourself  or you cannot take help of peers or teachers. It just means you choose what you want to learn. It means you understand what mode of learning works best for you and design your own system. Of course, you can find peers and teachers who can best teach you and learn from them. Conclusion without Effort - We often believe we are not good at something. It could be writing, investing, communication etc. When you honestly ask why are you not good at it? You might realize you haven't really put in enough effort. May be you you tried but found it too difficult to learn. This is were self awareness comes into picture. Try to understand how do you learn? Do you learn best by reading books, by listening to someone or watching animation videos etc. Find resources and teachers that are best aligned with your learning methods. Of course. this takes time and may be  expensive but at the end of the day you will learn what you want to learn.People Don't Care -  If you are hesitant to start something because you are afraid people will laugh at you, then remember, people really don't care about what you do, as much you think they do. Everybody's got their share of problem. And if somebody does laugh, Remember we discussed what do when people laugh at you? Simple, laugh along with them 
Artist, Designer and Founder of Design Consulting firm IdeaSutra, George Supreeth talks about a designer's approach to solving problems, Divergent thinking and power of observation. Questions from the Episode - Why did you choose to pursue a degree in Art and Design? (02:05)What kind of challenges did you have in finding a job? (05:05)How did you have paid assignments while you were still in college? (06:19)Have you intentional taken breaks to take a step back and reflect on your life and career? (09:42)What kind of dogmatic belief do entrepreneur nurture because of media noise? (13:40)What is design from a lay man's perspective? (17:20)Balancing Form (Visual Representation) and Function (Purpose) while designing (20:19)How does a designer approach a problem? How is it different from analytical way of solving a problem? (30:33)Is Design Thinking the new Buzz Word? What are its limitations? (38:33)How can different kinds of creators, over a period of time, develop an ability to see like designers? (41:42)What is Explorative learning? (48:27)Most parents don't want their kids be artist because they are afraid their kids may not earn enough. Your thoughts on that? (58:48)?3 Big Take Always (01:03:58)3 Big Take ways from  the EpisodeAttention to Detail -  What separates an artist from a non artist is that an artist pays close attention to the details. A stand up comedian may make you laugh for 15 minutes by talking about normal everyday experience. A writer can help you visualize a normal place in rich and vivid detail. A photographer may tell a beautiful story out of a normal everyday picture. If you want to turn what you love into an Art, pay close attention to the details. The beauty and essence lies in the boring detailsDivergent Thinking -  In schools, we were always told that there is just one correct answer to a problem and our job is to arrive that answer.  As a result, we often believe there is only one or two solution to our problems. That’s not true. It is possible to generate more solutions if you broaden your thinking . For example, let’s say you want to move to the hills but you need to sustainably earn well. Instead of thinking that you could either stay in the city and earn well or move to the hills, you can think of ways in which you can move to the hills and still earn well. May be develop a skill that helps you earn remotely or develop some passive source of income before you move to the hills. May be take a sabbatical and go live in the hills for a few months and see if you really like it. Once you have multiple solutions, you don’t have to choose just one the solution. You can figure out how can you have the best of all of them. Just Say it - Some times when you have a problem, especially problems where you need more clarity, all you need to do is explain that problem to someone else. It doesn’t have to be real person. You can explain it to a wall. The goal is get your thoughts out loudly, so that you can see the inconsistency or gaps in your understanding. This is why they say teaching is a great way to learn because when you teach something, you see the gaps in your own learning. I did not know this process had name in programming called rubber duck debugging, where programmers try to explain their code to a dummy duck in order to understand where they are going wrong. 
On Oct 29th 2019, an IIT Hyderabad student killed himself by jumping of his hostel. He wrote to his friends that he did not find life interesting and his courses were not going great. This is the 3rd suicide at IIT Hyderabad this year.The incident made me wonder,Why do we need to score high marks, Earn more money, Seek comfort? What is really the purpose of our lives?On the first anniversary of The Break School, I reposting one of our older Episode that helped me deal with one of most the difficult question all of us grapple withNo! This snippet won’t tell you what is the purpose of your life. It will not answer that question.Rather, It will compel you to change your question!You can find the complete snippet of the episode at - www.thebreakschool.com/tbs04
I studied in a school, where we rarely spoke in English. English was not a language but just another subject you had to score good marks in. After school, I got into a college where my new class mates were from some of the top notch schools of Bangalore. They had incredible command over English.Their fluency both awed and intimidated me. I hesitated to speak in front of them. I stopped asking questions in my class. I was constantly afraid being ridiculed Luckily, I met two incredible teachers who taught meHow to learn even when you don’t have a teacher to give you feedback.What to do when people laugh at you.This snippet looks at these two teachers that all of us have but very few of us ever learn from. They are the two most under-appreciated teachers because they don’t give you easy answers.I Hope you will learn from them😊Find the complete transcript of the Episode at https://thebreakschool.com/under-appreciated-teachers
Public Education Enthusiast and Founders of Swataleem Foundation Ananya Tiwari and Vaibhav Kumar discuss about their learning from building a Social Enterprises, raising funds, building their team and myths about development sector for aspiring social entrepreneur.Questions From the Episode - Why did you guys start Swataleem? (02:40) Haven't you been told by your family to first earn money then think of social service? (09:59) How does being part of a community of problem solvers help? (13:47) Why did you directly start working in the social sector? Why not take up a good job and then work on the side on Swataleem? (16:08) How did you fund to build Swataleem? What are you major funding streams? (18:17) What kind of leanings have you had around crowd funding? (22:42) Any fundamental mistakes that you made in raising funds that aspiring social entrepreneur can learn from you to not make? (26:29) What factors do you consider while recruiting people? (31:23) How do you measure intangible factors like drive, adaptability etc while hiring?(34:36) Any learning about good hiring basis mistakes you have made? (37:36)What kind of feedback loops have you developed to evaluate the work you are doing is making a difference? (40:11)  How do you decide what kind of interventions will really help you solve the problems that you are solving? (44:44) Any myths about social Enterprise that you would want aspiring social entrepreneurs to be aware of? (49:10) 3 big Takeaways (57:21) 3 Big Takesaways from the session - Big changes take time -   As Vaibhav mentioned, the process of convincing himself and his family about pursuing a career in development sector did not take place overnight. It was a result of many conversations and smaller decisions that he made over a period of time. Understanding this is important because we often look for quick results or immediate gratification, which is not available when you are trying to make a big shift in life  Importance of Community - Most people I have had at The Break School have pursued journeys that fills them with a lot of self – doubt. This is natural, when you are doing something that is not conventional. You are bound to feel alone and have a lot of questions and reasons to quit. This is where a community of like minded people plays a crucial role. The realization that you are not alone and there are others who are also solving difficult problem, gives you the strength and hope to keep moving forward. So find your communities. And if there isn't one, build it.Own your trade offs - As Vaibhav aptly said, when you choose to go into development sector, you must be aware that it is as much a selfish decision as it is go work in a corporate for money. Or in other words , when you make a decision, own it. Do it because it gives you joy and satisfaction. Do not expect anyone to come garland you.  If you quit a well paying corporate career to work in a village because you want a lot appreciations, you will mostly likely not stay in the village for a long timeYou can find detailed show notes of the episode at - http://thebreakschool.com/Swataleem/
Former National Tae - Kwon - Do Champion, Hatha Yogi and founder of Sailum Martial Arts Academy Acharya Babu T. Raghu speaks about learning to absorb pain, achieving mastery and doing everything one loves, even if you cant make a living out of it.  Questions From the Episode - You have worn many hats. Armed forces, Martials Arts, Adventure sports, Writing etc. What prompted you to pursue so many things? (03:22) So how did you financially support these activities in last the 30 years? (06:14) How has cross disciplinary learning helped you apply lessons from Martial Arts & Adventure Sports to Stocks markets and vice versa (09:26) What is Martial arts and why is it called an art? isn't it a sport, a violent sport? (11:48) If Kunga Fa is a classical art form, then why do most people know only about the physical combat element of it? (15:10) What does Zen has to say about developing the mind? (17:13) What does it mean to take the journey inward? (20:07) Why do you think it is difficult for people to sit quietly for even 10 minutes? (22:14) What was your approach to learning martial arts? (25:36) What do you think are barriers to achieving mastery? (28:05) How do you transcend pain? How do you get better at absorbing pain? (29:40) How do you help students over-come the fear of pain? (37:42) Summary of Takeaways (50:02) 3 Big take away from the conversation - Absorb a little Pain Everyday - As Acharya mentioned, The gap between where you are and where you want to be is Pain of learning or effort. Learning something new or making a big decision is painful. However, you don't do it in one go. Just as in martial arts, you can inflict a little pain every day. You can learn a little everyday, you can take little risk instead of trying to do what you want to do at once.Transferable Learning - A podcast student of mine once told me "Hey, I'm a software engineer, I dont' think I can write creatively". This is an example of Indian education system where we often becomes prisoners of our past education and degrees. Acharya Raghu applied his learnings about risks in adventure sports and quick decision making from martial arts to stock market trading. This is a wonderful example of cross disciplinary learning. I'm not suggesting that learning martial arts will make you a great Stock market trader. However, the mental models or Behavior you pick up from a deep involvement in one activity often helps you navigate other discipline in unexpected ways. So you don't have to be a prisoner of your past experiences. Mastery is when you can detach your mind from the activity - I loved this definition of mastery from Acharya Raghu. You've achieved mastery in something when you enjoy it like a kid. When you can perform what you've mastered with pleasure and not pressure. You feel absolutely carefree and completely detach your mind from the activity. Mastery is when what love doing becomes a part of your muscle memory. You no longer deliberately do it. You just enjoy the flow.
There are so many things that make us curious, so many things that interests us, so many things that we want to learn and master. But we rarely start because we are terrible at it now. It is painful to acknowledge we do not know. It is painful to learn something from scratch because there is no immediate reward.   But worst of all, we exaggerate our fears of trying something new. We over anticipate the pain of failure pushing us into a vicious cycle of pessimism.   This snippet explores why we exaggerate our fears & how to pursue what we love despite being afraid of it.  You can read the complete snippet at www.thebreakschool.com/adaptability
On Guru Purnima, We express our gratitude to all the teachers and mentors who offered us knowledge and directions to help us navigate the journey of life.On this wonderful occasion, reposting our episode on Finding mentors to do what you love In this snippet, we focus on two aspects - What do you need to convince someone to be your mentor and two, where can you find mentors. You can find the complete transcript at - https://thebreakschool.com/mentors/Happy Listening and Learning
One of India’s best known Social Commentator and CEO of Futurebrands, Santosh Desai talks about pitfalls of MBA education, importance of synthesised learning, his process of Developing Original Perspective and thoughts on what constitutes meaningful work. Questions from The Episode Does being in the hills have some kind of impact on your creative process? (02:55)  You started as a marketeer, How did you end up writing? (03:39)  Did you’ve self doubts about your writing when you were asked to write for the first time? (06:35)  In one of your article in 2012 you mentioned " It  [MBA] did not open my mind enough to new modes of thinking, and while it spoke of 'thinking outside the box', it spent all its energies in building the box instead  " about MBA. Can you elaborate on this further? (09:14)  What Do you think is holding the institutes like IIMs from changing their teaching approach? (14:45)  What got you interested in Tik Tok? (19:01)  But do you think I t really adds tangible value to peoples life? (21:12)  In another article you mentioned “Management education…. helps you reach to the level of order from disorder, but falls short if you want to reach from order to creation. It does not teach you synthetic thinking but advocates disparate thinking.” Can you please elaborate a little more on synthesized thinking and disparate thinking? (24:28)  Does MBA help people deal with uncertainty, which is extremely crucial in the process of creation? (30:41)   You write on diverse subjects - education, gender roles, Indian state, family etc. How did build up your background knowledge to write on these subjects (39:27)?  What do you mean by "Understanding the structural aspects of an issue or topic at hand"? (42:39)  Once you have asked the basic question, how do you build your observations around it ? (48:48)  How do you sift through the flood of content on the internet to build your understanding around problems that you are interested in? (01:00:12)  Are there certain simple ideas that you practice repeatedly that has helped you improve your writing? (01:05:11)  What kind of fundamental ideas should freelancers understand in order to communicate their value preposition better? (01:07:33)  From you experience as leading multiple organization, what do you think holds people in an organization?  (01:14:37)  Creating a space where people can explore ideas is an ideal scenario but don’t you think most organizations do not allow this because it takes time, they would rather refer to the best practices and templates?  (01:18:17)  DO you think with the advent of internet, a lot young people would be inclined to work as individuals rather than be part of large organisation (01:23:40)  3 Big Takeaways  (01:26:11)  3 Takeaways from the Episode  Developing Original Perspective - As Santosh mentioned, Developing an original perspective doesn’t mean developing a unique perspective. It means gaining fundamental understanding of issues or problem you trying to solve. Very often, in order to save time, we use templates and quick hacks. Which is fine, as Santosh mentioned, for example, If your computer isn’t working, you just need 5 ways to fix your computer rather than understand how it works from scratch. However, When it comes to subjects you are deeply interested in, or subjects that your livelihood depends on, just gaining a superficially understanding and using templates doesn't help. When you do your own thinking, when you ask simple questions and compare your ideas with other alternatives, you not only develop a deeper understanding but begin to realize the limitation and utility of existing templates or solutions Importance of Thinking by First Principle - One of the ways to develop original perspectives is doing First principle thinking - It is basically a mode of thinking where you constantly ask the "why" question until you reach a point that has no underlying “why”. For example - Why do you listen to The Break School. Because you want to learn how to do what you love and make a living out of it. But why is it important to do what you love? Because you spend at least 9 to 10 hours on some activity everyday, to earn a living. So if you are going to spend 70% of your life's time (ignoring the time you sleep) on something, isn’t it important you love and enjoy what your do. But why is it important to enjoy what you do? Because otherwise you are constantly stressed, you don’t feel the motivation to get better, you seek superficial and harmful ways to gain pleasure and most importantly you are not happy. But why is it important to be happy? Well I leave you with that question. You may also want to check out this article on first principle thinking by Farnam street. Second Order Thinking - Second Order thinking is when you don’t just look at the immediate consequences of your action but you understand the chain reaction it will cause. As discussed in the episode, Monetary incentives in organisation do work, people at an individual level, do respond to it. However, in the long term, it creates a culture where everything becomes transactional, people begin to hoard work and internal competition supersedes Collaboration, which is extremely crucial to produce great work. To develop second order thinking, you have to stop viewing your actions in isolation and look at the entire system you are operating in. In our example the system is the Organisation. You can check this article on second order thinking by Farnam street. 
Journalist, Media entrepreneur and India’s leading Podcast Consultant Chhavi Sachdev talks about limitation of Radio that led to emergence of Podcasts, Challenges and opportunities for independent podcasters and myths associated with working as a freelancer.Question from the Episode (Complete Questions list shared at the end)How would you explain Podcast to someone who hasn’t heard of it? (02:35)Why do Radio in India have little diversity in content? (05:04)How did you end up with podcasting? (07:41)How did you learn Podcasting? (09:41)Apart from chronological order, In-what other ways can you structure a story? (12: 03)Any other feedback you received that made a difference to your podcasting Journey (14:07)Alex Bloomberg said you need something new every 45 to 90 seconds to keep the audience engaged. How practical do you think it is? (18:37)How do you balance between letting your guest speak and making sure the answers are not way too long? (20:16)?What are some of the myths or misconception that people hold when before starting a podcast? (24:35)?What impact would high budget Podcast from giants like Spotify and Audible have on independent podcasters, who work with bare minimum budget? (28:59)While the number of podcast creators are growing, the numbers of listeners aren’t growing. Your thoughts? (33:24)You are not very aggressive on social media. Do you think you are missing out on opportunities due to that? (37:08)How did you find clients for Sonologue initially? (38:07)What kind of myths do people have about freelancing. (45:31)Summary of Take Aways (51:50)3 takeaways from the episodeWhat makes Podcasting special is the idea of choice – Unlike radio, that has limited options and limitations of Location and time, you can listen to podcast anywhere, anytime. Not to forget, the rich diversity of content available for listening. And if you don’t find a podcast of your interest? Why don’t you start one? That takes me to lesson number 2As Independent Podcaster, your greatest strengths are your curiosity and a niche space. As Chhavi mentioned, the big production companies are not interested in niche space because this is not where the big audience is or the big money is. So that leaves you with an opportunity to create content in areas that you are deeply curious about.Being your own boss is a myth – I love the idea of being your own boss, but no matter who you are – An employee, an entrepreneur or a free-lacer, there is someone who always demands your time. It could be your employer or your client. What you certainly choose is who has this control to and to what extent. The tradeoff generally is time and freedom instead of more money. If you can afford to make this trade off, then great.
Business Story Telling Coach and Founder of Storywallahs, Ameen Haque helps us understand what makes stories authentic, how stories shape our lives and how can you and I leverage the power of stories to improve the quality of our lives and businesses.List of Questions from the Episode What movies and stories are you reading right now? (03:12)What is a Narrative? (06 min, 35 Sec)What are the Fundamental elements of a story? (11:19)What is your take on Facebook, Instagram naming their tools as Stories? (17:31)Why should businesses use story telling? (29 min)How can Freelancers leverage story-telling to identifying new clients? (33:35)What is the problem of narrow vocabulary? (36:08)How to Build rich vocabulary (39:22)Examples of people you look up to for really rich vocabulary in Business (43:50)How do you weave numbers into a narratives? (45:46)When does Call for Action become a problem? (48:43)Summary of take Aways (56:45)3 Big Takeaways from the Conversation If there is no conflict, there is no story - Isn’t this beautiful. Just think, If you have always had a comfortable life, if you have always tried to play safe and be where you are, then do you really have a story worth sharing? On the other hand, if you’ve taken up a project that sent jitters down you spine and challenged your gut, if you’ve pushed yourself beyond the cushions of your comfort, then perhaps, things are difficult right now but remember while you go through it, you are weaving a story that you will be proud to share.Great Stories Help us deal with fundamental human conflict - As Ameen mentioned, The primary purpose of stories is to help deal with a conflict. There are good movies that deal with conflicts of present times and then there are religious stories from lives of Krishna, Buddha, Mohammad and Mahavira that deal with human conflicts that have existed for thousands of years and are here to stay as long as we exist. Now extend this to business story telling. While pitching to/your clients, do you just focus on your skill sets or do you focus on the conflicts of your clients and tell a story that explains how your skills resolve those conflictsLet the audience own a part of your story - I’m going to repeat a quote that Ameen mentioned in the conversation “When you are a laying a mouse trap, don’t place so much cheese, that there is no place for the mouse to come”. This is a message I’m going to reflect upon in the next few days. I would like to understand how can I weave a call for action within a story without explicitly giving out a call for action. 
Founder and CEO of Project DEFY Abhijit Sinha, talks about creating learning centers without teachers, raising funds, Building teams, Starting a social enterprise and defying conventional understanding of education. Questions from the Episode What is Project DEFY and who is it for? (02:06) What is wrong with teachers driven education system? (03:57) How is DEFY solving the problem of choice in existing education system? (06:50) Have you ever been told kids are dumb and can’t make choices? (11:12) Have students from your learning centers been able to earn a living after acquiring skills at the learning centers? (12:15) How do you financially support Project DEFY? (17:03) What were the major challenges in raising Funds for DEFY? (19:01) How did you reach out to donors in Corporates for funding? (21:30) How did you build your team? (29:19) How do you decide what salaries to pay? (34:20) How did you measure your progress? What were your feedback loops? (39:18) How do you balance between standardizing your processes and allowing each nook to operate based on local conditions? (42:13) Were there moments when you wanted quit DEFY and just go back to a regular Job? (45:26) What kept you going despite all the lows in your journey (48:34) Why did you move to the village (50:08) 3 Big Take aways from the episode Your Team is your Feedback Loop – This was a jewel in the entire conversation. I have always believed your team is your greatest resource but I never thought of each member in my team as a powerful feedback loop. As Abhijit mentioned, bringing in people who give you uncluttered, hard headed feedback, offer solution and are also willing to execute those, can go a long way in building sustainable organizations in the long term. It is important to find Donors to fund your social enterprise but it is equally important to ensure they don’t influence your core values and beliefs, let alone compromise on them. At Project DEFY, one of the core beliefs is you don’t have to be paid unfairly low just because you work in a social enterprise and no donors could dictate what they paid their employees. Learning rooted in curiosity is far more powerful than learning rooted in curriculum. When you learn something to solve an immediate problem or fulfill an immediate need, you get immediate feedback. If what you are learning solves your problem, you retain and build on that solution. If it doesn’t, then may-be you are not learning well or you need a different solution. Well, You may ask, Itis possible to let every person decide what they want to learn when there are limited students but can you do this for all the kids in the world? Honestly, I don’t know! I’m just hopeful, with the increasing penetration of internet and availability of knowledge, this should be possible for a lot many kids in the times to come. Resources Mentioned in the Episode Project DEFY - https://projectdefy.org/ Kanthari Fellowship - https://www.kanthari.org/
Traveler and Biking enthusiast Amrutha Kashinath and Shubra Acharya hold the record for fastest journey between Kanyakumari and Kashmir on bike by two women. On the show today, I have Amrutha Kashinath to discuss how she managed her expeditions along with a job, what goes into preparing for such long distance expeditions and how safe is it for women to travel solo in India.Important Questions from the Episode |How did you feel when you finished your 6 day long trip from Kanyakumari to Kashmir? (02:55)How got you hooked to bike expeditions? (05:35)What is so special about going on a bike? Why can’t you just take a bus or car? (08:54)What kind of planning goes behind executing a long bike expedition? (10:05)How long did it take you find sponsors? What was your pitch to them? (12:08)Was there any point during your journey where you felt unsafe? (13:55)What kind of precautions do you take to ensure safety? What to avoid? (16:12)How did you manage your job and these expeditions? How did you convince your boss for leaves? (20:01)How do you cut the cost of travels? (21:27)How did you manage without owning a bike (26:19)What kind of skills does a person need on these expeditions, apart from riding a bike? (28:25)How is travelling in a group different from travelling solo? (29:20)What kind of Bikers Community have you been part of? (30:25)How have your expedition impacted your daily job? (33:07)3 Takeaways from this episode |Sometimes opportunities come in the form of accidents – In her 1st expedition from Bangalore to Gujarat, Amrutha was supposed to be a pillion. However, when one of her group members met with an accident and there was nobody to ride the bike, Amrutha pushed herself to do it. We have all been in such situations, where we compelled do more than we think we can. For instance, when our boss goes on a long leave, or when we forced to learn a new software or when we are compelled to build a 2nd source of income to support our families. These situations are painful when they occur but in the long term, they help us uncover abilities that would have remained hidden in our usual day to day life.You don’t need a lot of money to start doing what you love – Amrutha has been all her national and international expeditions without owning a bike. She either borrowed a bike or rented it out. There is generally a misconception that you need a lot of money to start doing what you love. Not really! No matter what you want to learn, ask yourself, Can you borrow the resources from someone? Or can you rent it out? Or are there platforms that offer free resources to at least help you get started?Great achievements require effort and time - Amrutha and Shubra may have completed their journey from Kanyakumari to Kashmir in 129 hours but preparing for this journey took 6 to 8 months. When something seems quick and effortless, we believe it is purely due to some hidden talent and we cannot do something similar. When you recognize the months of preparations and hard work behind this achievement, you see the real cost – Efforts. The questions now is - Are you willing to put in those efforts?
Do you often sign up for online courses but never really start learning?Do you often decide to eat healthy food when you are sick but go back to your old ways as soon as you recover?Do you often aspire to find better career opportunities but do nothing more than consuming a few inspirational videos?I often do. In fact, all of us do. It’s a problem called the “Intent-Action” Gap.On this Episode, I have Anurag Vaish, Co-founder of India’s leading Behavioural Science firm, Finalmile Consulting, to help us understand the reasons for the huge gap between what we commit/Intend to do and what we really do. At Finalmile, Anurag has led projects across domains such as Financial Services, Health Care, Education with the goal of designing system to achieve compliance and Adherence. On this Episode you will learn1. 3 major reasons for Intent - Action gap2. How to strengthen your commitments3. The power and limitations of “Inspiration” in driving action. List of Questions from the EpisodeDoes reading Behavioral Science books such as Nudge, Thinking fast and slow etc. help people change their Behaviors (04:50)What are the major reasons for Intent Action Gap? (07:40)Is it practical to recreate the decision making context (13:25)Consider a person who wants to move out of his job and become a food blogger. How can the idea of setting relevant goals and constantly evolving your goals help him stay persistent? (15:54)Do you think tangible, visible feedback for your actions can consistently push you forward (23:21)What is a commitment & how can we strengthen our ability to act on commitments (25:43)?Do you think joining communities (Online or offline) increases our chances of acting on our commitments (31:28)By writing our commitment, do we fool our brains into thinking that we have already acted on it? (35:58)In what situation is removing barriers more beneficial than providing nudges to achieve the required behavioral change? (38:27)Can you walk me through the process you use to identify barriers that a person is facing while performing an action? (40:36)How effective are inspirational books and speakers in influencing human behaviors in the long term? (45:38)Are we humans by default very lazy? (47:30)Summary of 3 big take aways (50:57)
Why do we continue in careers we don’t find meaningful?  Why do we continue to use old tools and softwares even when there are better alternatives available? Or why are we so afraid of trying something new?  In this 12-minute snippet I unpack The Status Quo Bias, a major problem in our decision making that makes us resistant to change. I explain its underlying causes and two possible ways we can avoid the bias and make better decisions. References for further reading - https://sites.hks.harvard.edu/fs/rzeckhau/status%20quo%20bias.pdf https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/11468377-thinking-fast-and-slow https://fs.blog/2014/02/decision-journal/ Happy Listening and learning And by the way, Would you like to launch your own podcast? Then I’m launching a 8 weeks Online Podcast Coaching Program to help you create your own incredible podcast. I’m hosting a free webinar to help you understand basics of podcasting, challenges in creating a podcast and 8 weeks framework to launch your own podcast. Write to sanjay@thebreakschool.com to register for the next webinar.
Engineer, Carpenter & Founder of Maker’s Asylum, Vaibhav Chhabra talks about quitting his job to build Makers Asylum, a leading maker's space in India, How maker's community enable people to build what they love and what stops us from giving our ideas a physical form.Questions from the Episode - What is a maker space? (02:26)What do you mean by a community driven space? (04:40)What prompted you to start makers asylum? (07:24)At what point did you decide to quit your job? (17:13)What convinced you to take this plunge? (18:40)In hindsight, Do you think it was a good decisions to start makers asylum? (21:00)What goes into transforming an idea into a physical product? (22:14)What hold people back from picking up tools and making what they want to make? (24:30)How is makers asylum helping people learn to make what they want to (26:52)What are the biggest challenge in teaching people ? (33:20)Can you share examples of collaborative work at makers asylum? (35:21)Were there moments when you wanted to shut this and go back to your job? (36:50)Does it pinch that you still don’t earn as much as you did 6 years ago from your job? (38:20)How do you guys earn money? How do you support yourself? (39:04)Summary of Takeaways (42:23)3 big Takeaways from the Episode -The biggest obstacle to making what we want to, is picking up the tools and making it. Very often, Our inability to get out of our comfort zone is worse than any external challenge. May be we are afraid of failing, may-be we are afraid of not knowing how to build but then, you can learn. A maker’s community is defiantly a great place to learn. But learning requires time and effort. We cannot binge watch Netflix and then expect to learn to build something incredible. You learn Faster when you have a problem to solve – This has been my personal experience in last few months. Curiosity is a great way to learn but if you are like me, very low on curiosity, then a great way to learn something new is to find an interesting problem to solve. When you focus on a great problem, your brain churns its creative juice. You identify your blind spots and fill them. You learn to use tools both physical and digital (and Even Mental Models) but most importantly, You will meet interesting people who will help you, some of whom may become your friends or some, your mentors.Arouse curiosity before offering knowledge – I don’t exactly recall but I once heard on some podcast that great teachers do not teach but reveal, they do not bother about covering syllabus but they uncovers what is hidden, they surprise you. When teaching, Instead of trying to pump knowledge into your students mind, let their curiosity lead them and offer knowledge when throw questions at you. That way they will retain what you offer and also use them
This is our third episode in the personal finance series where we try to learn how to save money to do what we love from a Behavioural Science perspective. Behavioural Science tries to understand why humans behave the way they do & then design effective systems to influence human behaviours for better outcome.My guest today is Benis Kumar Moses. Benis is a Behavioural Architect at India’s leading Behavioural Science consulting firm Finalmile Consulting. His close to two decades of experience in financial services market offers him a deep understanding about people and their relationship with money. We discuss about the biases that stops us from saving money, how to reduce the gap between what we intend to do & what we do and how to improve our ability to deal with uncertainty.You can find the list of all resources and links mentioned in the episode at https://thebreakschool.com/saving-moneyQuestions from the episodes - What is Behavioral science? (02:09)Why does there exists huge gap between what we intend to do and what we really do? (03:36)What systems can we build to reduce Intent – Action gap? (06:44)How can recreating the decision making context help us reduce intent action gap? (08:56)Can automating a few processes ensure that individuals follow rules and regulation they have decided to follow? (12:51)What is Prospect theory? Can it help us understand why we don’t save money?What kind of biases stops us from saving money? (20:24)Is there any thing else other automating our saving that could help us save more? (25:26)Our goal is here is to save enough money to do what we love. Can you suggest a way to allocate my assets, a broader framework? (31:33)Does tracking your expenses help reduce your expense? (34:35)Can you name some of the tools or professional who you think can help people redefine their relationship with money? (36:50)What are the basic financial concepts that every individual must be aware of? (39 min,14)How can we improve our ability to take risks? (41:24)3 big Take Aways (46:19)
2019 has been a special year. Starting this podcast gave me an opportunity to have conversations with path breakers who gave up conventional careers to pursue what they love full time. This snippet is a summary of 5 powerful lessons I have learnt from these conversations. I don’t claim these will transform your life but I assure you, if you believe in not spending your entire life doing what you don’t find meaningful, then these lesson will help you in your pursuit of doing what you love and lead a meaningful life. You can find the complete transcript of this snippet at www.thebreakshool.com/lessons If you loved this episode, don’t forget to share this with your friends over WhatsApp. If you would like to receive future episodes, then subscribe to the break school podcast on Spotify, Stitcher, Castbox or Apple podcast.
Just doing what you love doesn't pay your bills. However, for people to pay you for a specifically skill, you must be really good at it. One of the most powerful ways to sharpen your learning is to find a mentor.By mentor, I don't mean finding a paid coach, although that really helps as well. This snippet is about finding a life long guru, who can help you master what you love.In this snippet, we focus on two aspects - What do you need to convince someone to be your mentor and two, where can you find mentors.Find the full transcript at - https://thebreakschool.com/mentorsHappy Learning🙂
Personal Finance Coach and author of the award winning personal finance blog Cashoverflow, Pardeep Goyal talks about developing passive income, experimenting, common mistakes while saving money, his learning from two failed start ups and a lot more.List of questions from the show - What is cashoverflow? And who is it for? (02:08)Learnings from two failed startups (02:45)How did you practice the 30-70 rule to build Cashoverflow? (09:10)How did you identify niche skills to earn as a freelancer? (11:27)Does it take years to develop niche skills? (13:02)How does Cashoverflow help people achieve Financial Abundance and Financial Freedom? (14:22)What do you think are the most common mistakes that people make in saving money? (15:52)Any investment options that gives decent returns without regular tracking? (21:50)What kind of misconceptions do people hold about passive income? (24:18)What are the major ways in which people can earn passive income? (28:20)Case Scenario - An individual is extremely passionate about cooking and wants to become a chef or start a cooking blog in two or three years from now. What are the different ways in which he can save money to prepare for this transition? (32:32)Are there any general skills that a free lacer must develop to earn a consistent income? (34:58)What makes people take action (37:34)Summary of takeaways (41:37)
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Emilia Gray

Share only your stories. Be an open, honest and transparent brand https://mediaonemarketing.com.sg/art-of-story-telling-grow-brand/ . Maintain your brand identity across every media and content format to not only stand out, but also inspire trust.

Apr 24th
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Apr 24th
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Gaming Only

silence on some parts of conversations with Vaibhav. especially the first one.

Nov 22nd
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Krishna K

Hi Sanjay, this is Krishna of New Indian Woman podcast. I listened to this episode today and it was lovely. Appreciate the way in which you have done it

Oct 14th
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manoj pattanaik

Can't think of better way to give such an important message. Sanjay is the best story teller I've ever met.

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vaishali meher

mind-blowing journey

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Binu Sebastian

really great, enjoyed the article

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mahesh babu

1.write your fears on paper and find what really cause fear and it anyway .come back and write your experience,then find how your body fools your 2.don't think about perfection 3.do atleast one thing that hurts you in a day thank you Sanjay sir for great tips

Sep 9th
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mahesh babu

really helpful

Jul 11th
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vaishali meher

it was close to my heart. important guidelines to choose a mentor

Jul 8th
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mahesh babu

great podcast

Jun 6th
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Neha Batra

Really insightful and interesting conversation with Chhavi- particularly the social/political context of podcasting in India and abroad (current + historical). Thank you!

Jun 1st
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vaishali meher

After a long time you have posted your video..waiting eagerly for your video. the video is very close to my heart..became aware that this is also one of the way to educate our kids

Apr 15th
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Akshay Bangera

Wow I never thought about my own behaviour like that. Really good podcast. Thanks a Ton !!

Mar 25th
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vaishali meher

l like your snippet on consistency where you said don't wait for appreciation from others and be consistent in doing what you like because that will lead you towards success . I think we all need to apply this in our life.

Feb 9th
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vaishali meher

Thanks for exposing the talent of such fantastic and brilliant people. It provided me with the best experience which will help me to build and nurture my personal skills.

Feb 3rd
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Santhiya Satishkumar

Thank you for sharing such useful information.Grwat job Sanjay..Really useful topic and you had asked the relevant questions.

Feb 3rd
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mahesh babu

stories change life

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radhakrishna battu

Came to know about your podcast from jago investors website and am hooked. Thank you for doing this. What I liked so far 1) The questions you ask (shows your preparation) 2) How you repeat/summarize the points made by the guest, which gives me a second chance if I missed any the first time ;)

Jan 5th
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radhakrishna battu

Came to know about your podcast from jago investors website and am hooked. Thank you for doing this. What I liked so far 1) The quality of questions (shows your preparation) 2) How you repeat/summarize the points made by the guest, which gives me a second chance if I missed any the first time ;)

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